Why on earth must you piss on the toilet seat?

[nashiitashii]

Okay, so I did a search, and found a few related results. A rant on the same thing from two years ago (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=267213&highlight=peeing+toilet+seat) , a similar one concerning male urination (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=300560&highlight=peeing+toilet+seat), a poll concerning public restroom use (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=286184&highlight=peeing+toilet+seat), and one dealing with fecal matter (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=268711&highlight=peeing+toilet+seat). This has been covered, but I still find that I have many instances in which I find toilet seats that have been delicately (or liberally) sprayed with urine in public bathrooms. I even overheard a conversation that a little girl and her mother had regarding the public bathroom I was washing my hands in. The little girl is instructed not to touch anything and that the bathroom is disgusting and dirty. (It was almost spotless.) She asks her mother how she knows it's dirty, and gets the following response: "Because it is not my bathroom." The bathroom may have been a relatively high traffic bathroom, but it was cleaned at least once every two hours. I do not know of a single person who cleans their bathroom more than once a day, and most people I know clean their bathroom weekly or less, and with less thoroughness as the public bathroom. And yet, the public bathroom with its much more regular cleaning is considered much dirtier than the bathroom at home. Maybe this woman is also a hoverer who sprays urine all over the toilets and doesn't clean up after herself.

Urine on the toilet seat is the least of my problems. However, it's annoying, and it happens more often at the more upscale public places in this area than the ones that are mainly catering to the "unwashed masses." Why is Neiman Marcus' toilets covered in pee and having feminine supplies left on the back of the toilet seat (rather than in the designated bin inside the stall) and with paper towels all over the floor, while Target's bathroom is immaculate? Are wealthy women so germophobic that they have to create a disgusting mess to show their displeasure any time they are faced with using a public toilet? Why is it that I have fewer worries about accidentally sitting in urine (yes, I do check, but sometimes the spray is so fine or the lighting is so low that I do not see it) in the bus station than in the ritzy upscale department store or restaurant? I may soon end up doing the same as Presidebt and wadding up a good bit of toilet paper to wipe off every toilet seat before I sit down, regardless of whether I can see droplets on it of not. I do note, however, that most of the time when I see urine, it is not backsplash from the toilet water, as unused toilet water generally isn't a dark yellow.

I wish I weren't so timidly polite about this, as it would give me great satisfaction to make someone who has peed all over the seat to go back and wipe the seat in front of a line of women waiting to use the now soiled bathroom stall.

Why is it that I can't go anywhere nice without risking the [relatively high] chance that I will end up sitting in someone else's pee? Why can't they just learn to aim or clean up after themselves? All of these places have the paper toilet seat guards, and yet this still happens more often than in places where the toilet seat guards aren't available. Disgusting.

[MsRobyn]

Because that's what happens when you let random people use the bathrooms. (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407906) Especially if you're in a highrise building.

Robin

[Darryl Lict]

I suppose I can jump in if I'm a guy, 'cause this is a real sore point for me. I consider this incredibly sociopathic behavior, especially if it's a guy. Why the hell are you peeing in the toilet anyhow, when there is a perfectly good urinal out there? You've got weird privacy issues so you don't use a urinal, but you feel obligated to piss all over the toilet seat? Lift up the damn seat you lazy piece of shit! Dude, you got some serious problems.

I only use a stall when all the urinals are occupied or I HAVE to take a dump. I was entering a stall and the kid exiting had pissed all over the seat. I almost grabbed him and gave him a swirlie. Swift vigilante justice, that would have taught him a lesson! I neglected to do it, but I also haven't been arrested for assault, JUST YET.

[John Mace]

From the thread title, I thought for sure this would be woman's rant against men, and I had a clever response all planned out. Then I realized that opening this thread was the on-line equivalent of walking into the ladies room... so I guess I'll just turn around and walk out, pretending like nothing ever happened. :)

[Thudlow Boink]

Okay, so I did a search, and found a few related results.Just be glad you didn't search on prehensile rectum (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=80957).

[Bryan Ekers]

Actually, there's an excellent chance the little droplets you see aren't urine at all. I've often noticed that power-flush systems in commercial bathrooms are so turbulent that during the flush, droplets of water can spurt out and land on the seat. Thus, it's not the fault of the user, but of an over-energetic design.

Not that venal slobs don't exist, of course. Just don't blame them for everything.

[Count Blucher]

"Captain, targeting systems are off-line."

"Switch to manual, Mr. Chekov...."

[Queen Bruin]

I'll just condense my usual post to these sort of threads:

Fuck you to hoverers, especially hoverers that don't clean up after themselves.

Fuck you to the ninnies that won't flush the goddamned toilet (surprisingly common at my husband's law school, you'd think relatively well-educated and supposedly well-mannered women would actually flush instead of leaving a crumpled ass gasket floating in a bowl of urine).

Fuck you to people and institutions that perpetuate bathroom urban legends and myths that are totally out of line with actual biology.


That is all.

[RTFirefly]

I'll just condense my usual post to these sort of threads:

Fuck you to hoverers, especially hoverers that don't clean up after themselves. If they're gonna hover anyway, why don't they lift the seat and hover over the rim? That's what I don't get. That way, you can't mess up the seat for the next person, and have a bigger target to hit - seems like it would be all good.

[Lissa]

If they're gonna hover anyway, why don't they lift the seat and hover over the rim?

Because then they would have to touch the seat.

[Foxy40]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.
That being said, I try to be aware to wipe off any urine ending up on the seat when I am balancing over the bowl. Shame on those ladies that do not have the same courtesy.

[Giraffe]

I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.Not to single you out, but I've always wanted to ask someone who was paranoid about sitting on a toilet seat: what are you worried will happen? Is there a disease I've never heard of that you can catch through your butt cheeks? I mean, I can understand it if there is visible filth or urine on the seat, but what about a visibly clean seat?

Note: I'm not saying you should sit on the seat, I'm just honestly curious what you think will happen if you do.

[Queen Bruin]

Oh won't someone think of the children's pwecious tushies!? :rolleyes:

[Randy Seltzer]

I know there are varied attitudes towards MythBusters on this board, but one of their projects applies here.

They grew cultures from different surfaces around their workplace. The break-room table. The floor under the table. The break-room counter. Yadda yadda yadda. And the toilet seat.

The toilet seat was cleaner (fewer bacteria colonies) than any of the other surfaces they tested. (Cleaner than surfaces that many people wouldn't hesitate to let their food touch.)

[shamrock227]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.
That being said, I try to be aware to wipe off any urine ending up on the seat when I am balancing over the bowl. Shame on those ladies that do not have the same courtesy.

I'm not picking on you, Foxy, really, and I do see where you say you try to remember to wipe up. But, did you read what you wrote? Offends me? You think sitting in a puddle of what you leave behind offends me? The thought of delicate you touching a clean seat makes you shudder, so I should be allowed to sit in what you leave behind or have to clean up after you if I have the good fortune to notice first?

Ok, so I may be oversensitive on this issue having been ambushed by a wet seat on quite a few occasions (at work no less :rolleyes: ) and maybe I am reading into what you wrote.

Edited to add: Again, Foxy, I just wanted to impress that I am not ranting at you. Just in general about people with that "Oh I couldn't possibly touch a toilet, I'm going to hover, fuck the next person" thing going on.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.
That being said, I try to be aware to wipe off any urine ending up on the seat when I am balancing over the bowl. Shame on those ladies that do not have the same courtesy.
You are aware that you can't get any diseases from a toilet seat, are you not? I'm with Giraffe. What are you afraid is going to happen if your precious tush comes in contact with a public toilet?

I've worked as a janitor in the past and women's restrooms were always ten times more nasty than men's rooms because so many women insist on hovering over the goddamn seat. Is there a generational cycle of mothers filling their daughters' heads with bullshit about "dirty" restrooms? It's a load of crap, you know. You aren't really going to catch anything. You should break the cycle. Don't make your daughter as paranoid as you are.

[CynicalGabe]

Because then they would have to touch the seat.

Use your shoe! :)

[Lamar Mundane]

Germophobes drive me crazy.

At the Denver Airport, you can get an ass gasket to place on the seat, the toilet flushes automatically, even the towels dispense themselves when you wave at a sensor - all that is needed is for something to grab your dick and aim for you - but still I see pee on the seats.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

While we're at it, what the hell is up with the non-flushers? Are they afraid to touch the handle or something? What makes people so irrationally fearful of public restrooms?

[gonzomax]

Every home should have a urinal.

[Canadjun]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.

Do you have unhealed cuts or open sores on your behind? Does your daughter?

[yojimbo]

From the thread title, I thought for sure this would be woman's rant against men, and I had a clever response all planned out.
Was it about us not being able to 'hit' a much smaller hole without help a lot of the time. ;)

[John Mace]

Was it about us not being able to 'hit' a much smaller hole without help a lot of the time. ;)
I'm afraid it wasn't that clever. I was just going to say "Because I'm drunk, bitch!"

[nashiitashii]

Darryl Lict: I can understand your ire WRT men peeing all over the seat. Lifting the seat isn't that scary, and, well, I've only been in a few men's restrooms (sometimes they're empty and there's a HUGE line in the ladies' rooms), and none of them had a crazy trough system or anything that wasn't mini booths. What's the big deal as long as you don't talk to your neighbor?
Bryan Ekers: I'm not so sure you actually read the full post because of this comment. I've never known water backsplash from the toilet to be yellow.
Foxy40:I'm not attempting to pick on you, but I have a few questions to ask. Do you have open sores on your butt? Does your child? Then why pass on your own neurotic behavior to your child? It seems you're only breeding more seat pissers with this behavior, regardless of how well you clean up. There's no guarantee that your daughter will pick up all your habits. Do you leave used tampons/pads on the back of the seat as well? That's just as disgusting as what you're doing... and I'm pretty sure that most of the public bathrooms you're using have seat protectors readily available. Just remember to flush them after you use them. Also, as Randy Seltzer had said, the toilet seat is one of the cleanest places out there. (I'm pretty sure it wasn't you with your little girl, unless you're afraid of freshly cleaned toilets complete with blue sanitizing solution in the bowl.)
shamrock227: I feel your pain, as this rant was brought up by a recent experience. I drove back from a trip on the turnpike and stopped at one of the convenient rest stations to use the bathroom and get a drink. I watched a girl my age (20s) exit a stall, so I figured it had to have been clean. After all, I heard the toilet flush. Looks clean, so I sit down, and discover that she'd pissed all over the toilet. How do I know it was urine? Toilet bowl water isn't warm, and I watched the flush when I flushed the toilet; no backsplash. How funny. :mad:
Diogenes the Cynic: I'm grossed out by non-flushers, but generally that is solved with me flushing a toilet that doesn't look like it's unflushed due to a major clog. (I don't know if guys ever do this, but there are women who are notorious for making a giant pillow of toilet paper just to wipe three ounces of pee. Seriously. And then they don't flush, so everyone knows how wasteful and lazy they are.) Of course, in those instances, I'll revert to flushing with my foot. I don't really ever do that after I pee, though, 'cause I've already wiped and will be washing my hands within a minute. (Not that I can get anything from a toilet handle, but I'd rather not touch something perceived as unsanitary before doing my own unsanitary deeds.)

[Autolycus]

Hey Nashiitashii, I hate piss on the seat too, but umm, I'm really posting because I'm curious if you speak Japanese or not. I was going to e-mail you but it's disabled.

[Quiddity Glomfuster]

Not to single you out, but I've always wanted to ask someone who was paranoid about sitting on a toilet seat: what are you worried will happen?

Don't you know? VD germs are known to be able to crawl from your butt up around your leg and then crawl into your vagina and get ya!!





:p

Oh, and don't be too quick to blame the person just exiting the stall for the spray. I'll sometimes go into a stall and see the spray and hover myself (but neatly).

[Miller]

Hey, everyone needs a hobby.

[dgrdfd]

I have had to clean bathrooms before, and I promise, at least in the ones I cleaned, the women's were almost always worse than the mens. Men - pee on the seat. Women - pee and shit on the toilet seat, wall, floor, etc. Makes no sense.

[Wolfian]

'Cause I'm an asshole (a real fucking asshole!)!

[MannyL]

I'm a guy adnd there are times I use the stalls because the uninals are full. I'll put the seat in the upright positon using TP then while I'm going it will fall back down thus it gets sprayed

[Cat Whisperer]

I would also like to express my displeasure at the hoverers. As I've mentioned many times here, I used to be a medical lab tech, trained in microbiology. From a contagious disease standpoint, I would much rather touch someone's buttcheeks than shake hands with them (except for that socially unacceptable part of touching strangers' buttcheeks) - I'm not nearly as likely to get a cold or flu from touching someone's butt. Of course, urine is practically sterile, too, but I don't fancy having someone else's urine on my legs.

I would also like to express my displeasure at automatic sensors for taps and paper towels that don't work. I'm waving my hands like freakin' Merlin, and nothing's coming out, man.

[Klaatu]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.
That being said, I try to be aware to wipe off any urine ending up on the seat when I am balancing over the bowl. Shame on those ladies that do not have the same courtesy.

You know what? YOU are one of those "strangers" that freak you out. YOU are the bitch that pisses all over the fucking place because of your misplaced paranoia. You are the idiot with the fucked up hygiene habits. :rolleyes:

You "try" to be aware to wipe your piss off the seat. Jesus fucking christ!

Do you do the same shit at your friends houses? I bet you do.

[Quiddity Glomfuster]

Women - pee and shit on the toilet seat, wall, floor, etc. Makes no sense.

Huh? Were you working in a prison? I've never seen anything like that.

[Ogre]

Say, who was that poster who was unbelievably disgusted when a houseguest had the audacity to pinch a loaf in her precious, sterile bathroom? Cause Foxy's attitude fills me with the same confusion.

[nashiitashii]

Hey Nashiitashii, I hate piss on the seat too, but umm, I'm really posting because I'm curious if you speak Japanese or not. I was going to e-mail you but it's disabled.

I sent you an email with the same username as I use here.

Ogre, I can understand your confusion. Sometimes people have to poo and just can't hold it in. I really have a hard time understanding someone who'd be offended by the idea that a person would poo outside of their own home, as long as they didn't leave it there for all to see, or clog the toilet.

[Bryan Ekers]

Bryan Ekers: I'm not so sure you actually read the full post

Never do. :D

[bbs2k]

Every home should have a urinal.
Every bathroom has a sink.

[lisacurl]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.
That being said, I try to be aware to wipe off any urine ending up on the seat when I am balancing over the bowl. Shame on those ladies that do not have the same courtesy.
The real irony is that I'm more likely to get sick from your child coughing her entire day care or school's worth of germs into the air than she is from touching the toilet seat that my ass touched five minutes ago.

[PunditLisa]

If everyone planted their ass on the toilet seat, then no one would have to worry about urine splattering on the toilet seat. It's the hoverers, who are soooo concerned about their pristine vaginas, who ruin it for everyone else. If it's really that much of a concern for you, then do us all a favor and bring some Clorox wipes to disinfect the seats after you've splattered your human waste onto them, you filthy creatures.

Geesh. Sit your ass down, pee (or shit, if you must), wipe and then wash your hands. Everyone's happy and disease free! It's really very elementary.

[Smeghead]

Germophobes annoy the FUCK out of me. That is all.

[Mangetout]

There's no 'must' about it. I don't have to pee on the seat; I do it because I want to.

[Muffin]

Perhaps they piss on the seat to provide lubrication for their ass chancres?

[BoBettie]

I don't recall if I ranted it here before or not, but at my last job I worked third shift and was literally the only woman in my entire section of the hospital at night. I never passed another woman, I never saw another woman; there weren't even female security people strolling around. EVERY NIGHT without fail some asshole came into MY bathroom (near the pharmacy) and left a bowl full of piss PLUS pissed all over the seat. It infuriated me- someone had to actually either use the wrong gender restroom (which would really be wrong, as you had to walk into a locker room to access those toilets) or they were coming from an entirely different part of the hospital to befoul my bathroom.

Fiinally I printed up a sign that advised the pisser to STOP pissing on the seat, START flushing the goddamned toilet, and seriously increase their water intake, as they had the darkest yellow urine ever. It worked for about 6 weeks, then it started again. I gave up and had to go to a bathroom on another floor.

I hate the hoverers/pigs. HATE THEM.
:mad:

[catsix]

The worst restroom experience I ever had involved a tampon having been used as a crayon.

Seriously chicks, Crayola does not have a string! Crayola is solid, not squishy. Crayola does not go in your vagina. What in the bloody blue fuck is wrong with people? Someone actually wrote graffiti on the wall with a used tampon, which she then left floating in the bowl.

I will assume that it was a female human, because I don't know too many men who use tampons.

[SanibelMan]

Don't leave us hanging by a thread here! What did it say?

[Lissa]

I have a confession to make: what I've read on the Dope has greatly changed my opinion of toilet seats.

I never was a "hover-round'-- I laid toilet paper on the seat or used one of the provided tissue liners. I even used to carry a small spray can of Lysol in my purse that I would spray on the seat if the cleanliness of the bathroom seemed to be in doubt.

It was something taught to me by my mother who really is a germaphobe. My ignorance on the issue was duly fought by some of the earlier thread on this subject and I'm no longer as squicked by touching a toilet seat. (Though I still lay down toilet paper because I don't necessarily like the idea of touching someone else's butt-skin oils and it prevents surprise contact with wet spots.)



I have a couple of theories as to why people mistreat public bathrooms. The first is that it's a form of passive-aggressive lashing out at the world. They have had to clean up messes in the past, or feel otherwise "shit-upon" and so they are going to take their "revenge" on some anonymous person who will have to clean up their mess.

The second is part of what I call "Lissa's Grand Unified Theory of the Decoy Duck." (I came up with this theory after running years of experiments in my jobs working with the public.) In short, people leave more messes when a mess already exists. If they see a brimming toilet or trash on the floor, they feel comfortable in leaving behind their own contribution, whereas if the bathroom was spotless, they'd be more heistant to behave in such a fashion. (Of course, it only takes one person to break this pattern.)

[Thudlow Boink]

I never was a "hover-round'-- I laid toilet paper on the seat or used one of the provided tissue liners. I even used to carry a small spray can of Lysol in my purse that I would spray on the seat if the cleanliness of the bathroom seemed to be in doubt.

It was something taught to me by my mother who really is a germaphobe. My ignorance on the issue was duly fought by some of the earlier thread on this subject and I'm no longer as squicked by touching a toilet seat. (Though I still lay down toilet paper because I don't necessarily like the idea of touching someone else's butt-skin oils and it prevents surprise contact with wet spots.)Are the women who go through such rituals the same ones who can't even look to see if the seat is up or down when they're at home? :D

[nashiitashii]

I have a couple of theories as to why people mistreat public bathrooms. The first is that it's a form of passive-aggressive lashing out at the world. They have had to clean up messes in the past, or feel otherwise "shit-upon" and so they are going to take their "revenge" on some anonymous person who will have to clean up their mess.

The second is part of what I call "Lissa's Grand Unified Theory of the Decoy Duck." (I came up with this theory after running years of experiments in my jobs working with the public.) In short, people leave more messes when a mess already exists. If they see a brimming toilet or trash on the floor, they feel comfortable in leaving behind their own contribution, whereas if the bathroom was spotless, they'd be more heistant to behave in such a fashion. (Of course, it only takes one person to break this pattern.)

I'm guessing that both theories work in combination, as there's some random asshole that encourages the bad behavior in the others by showing that it is actually done. However, whether or not the bathroom is spotless, there are the ladies out there that somehow got taught by their mothers that any public place is dirty and took it to a weird extreme. I remember being told to wash up thoroughly because bathrooms weren't sanitary, but I took it to the point of making sure I washed my hands properly, not hovering or avoiding contact with anything in a bathroom.

What really irks me is the same people who pee all over the toilets are the women who'll pretend to wash their hands by splashing them with a tiny bit of water before they leave. Disgusting.

[Lissa]

Are the women who go through such rituals the same ones who can't even look to see if the seat is up or down when they're at home? :D

Why bother to check? I have my husband well-trained. :D

[catsix]

Sanibel Man said:
Don't leave us hanging by a thread here! What did it say?

It said 'Hi' and there was a smiley face under it.

Thudlow Boink said:
Are the women who go through such rituals the same ones who can't even look to see if the seat is up or down when they're at home?

It's probably a high percentage of the same. Hoverers or toilet paper nesters are probably the ones who make such a huge, huge deal over a man who leaves the seat up.

[Unauthorized Cinnamon]

I'm totally with you on the hoverers. I agree - if you're not going to sit on the seat, lift it! Stupid selfish people.

However, as to directing your kid not to touch anything in a public restroom, I definitely do that. I will happily put my childs thighs/butt cheeks on a dry public toilet. However, I emphatically don't want her touching the door catch, the pad disposal bin, the floor, etc. with her hands. Little hands have a way of meandering to little mouths, noses, and eyes when you least expect it. Plus I've got a thumbsucker, so it's pretty much guaranteed.

I think it's over the edge to avoid your pristine thighs touching the seat, but I'd bet when people wipe after pooping or deal with menstrual stuff, they're likely to get germs on their hands, which then touch stuff in the stall before they exit and wash (hopefully).

I also make her wash her hands after pushing the kid carts at the grocery store, and stuff like that. I hope that doesn't make me a ridiculous germophobe.

[Vinyl Turnip]

Pretty obvious that the seat-piddlers suffer from diminished excretory brain function. Can't be helped.

Best if we all just learn to sublimate our anger and plop down onto their golden offering. Might even learn to enjoy it.

[nashiitashii]

I'm totally with you on the hoverers. I agree - if you're not going to sit on the seat, lift it! Stupid selfish people.

However, as to directing your kid not to touch anything in a public restroom, I definitely do that. I will happily put my childs thighs/butt cheeks on a dry public toilet. However, I emphatically don't want her touching the door catch, the pad disposal bin, the floor, etc. with her hands. Little hands have a way of meandering to little mouths, noses, and eyes when you least expect it. Plus I've got a thumbsucker, so it's pretty much guaranteed.


It's really not the "don't touch anything" that bothered me, but that the stupid cunt decided a freshly cleaned public bathroom was a million times more filthy and disgusting than her own, which may or may not have just been cleaned. But yeah, little kids, especially those young enough to want to touch everything, seem to do better if one has some sort of baby wipes or something to wipe off their hands with. They sure do seem to get messy faster.

[dgrdfd]

Huh? Were you working in a prison? I've never seen anything like that.

It was a nicer restaurant I used to work at. I am not making it up. It's like they were hoverers (is that even a word?) with diarrhea.

[RTFirefly]

Because then they would have to touch the seat.
Except they wouldn't - they could grab a big wad of TP, use it as an oven mitt to lift the seat up with, and then discard it.

[Lissa]

Use your shoe!

Except they wouldn't - they could grab a big wad of TP, use it as an oven mitt to lift the seat up with, and then discard it.

You people's problem is that you're putting thought into this. Most people with toilet phobia don't. They just know they don't want to touch anything but don't give it enough thought to invent solutions. Thus, they hover.

If you want to understand stupid human behavior, think inside the box, people.

[RTFirefly]

You people's problem is that you're putting thought into this. Most people with toilet phobia don't. They just know they don't want to touch anything but don't give it enough thought to invent solutions. Thus, they hover.

If you want to understand stupid human behavior, think inside the box, people.We were thinking inside the stall. Isn't that close enough? ;)

[gonzomax]

If the toilet offends you, what are you doing in there that would make it cleaner.? I am afraid your function will make it dirtier if anything. When you leave the next person has more to bitch about. It is a toilet for crying out loud.

[Equipoise]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.
That being said, I try to be aware to wipe off any urine ending up on the seat when I am balancing over the bowl. Shame on those ladies that do not have the same courtesy.

TRY? The times you forget are the times I'm calling you a selfish, skanky, filthy pig under my breath when I see the piss you left on the seat. I hate cleaning up after selfish skanky filthy pigs before *I* can sit down. You're teaching your daughter to grow up to be a selfish skanky filthy pig because she sees it's ok to piss on the seat and "forget" every now and then to wipe it off. Teaching your daughter that cleanliness is a good thing includes not pissing on the seat. EVER. You don't want to sit in someone else's piss? I don't want to sit in YOUR fucking selfish skanky filthy piggish piss. Wipe the fucking seat with toilet paper and sit your asses down and there'll be two less selfish skanky filthy pigs in the world.

However, I never touch any public bathroom surface without toilet paper or a paper towel between me and what I'm touching. I wash my hands thoroughly and use a paper towel or the edge of my skirt to open the door to leave. That's just common sense. Pissing on the seat and not cleaning up after yourself is just willful hostility or stupidity.

[MaddyStrut]

I have had to clean bathrooms before, and I promise, at least in the ones I cleaned, the women's were almost always worse than the mens. Men - pee on the seat. Women - pee and shit on the toilet seat, wall, floor, etc. Makes no sense.

When I worked in a bar, I saw that all the time. I'd go in there during the evening and find entire rolls of toilet paper stuffed into the commode, beer bottles in the toilet, toilets overflowing and people continuing to use them so the piss just flowed out onto the floor--and then there were the people who crapped NEXT to the seat. I was so glad I didn't have any janitorial duties at that place. The women's bathrooms were wretched!

Some women are absolute filthy pigs in public restrooms! This was a rather upscale place and the women who came could be rather prissy types. How is it that some of the prissiest people turn into such filthy pigs when someone else has to clean it up?

[Queen Bruin]

How is it that some of the prissiest people turn into such filthy pigs when someone else has to clean it up?
You've answered your own question, there.

[Cat Whisperer]

<snip>If you want to understand stupid human behavior, think inside the box, people.
I have to say, glib as this sounds, it is excellent advice. My husband and I have had any number of conversations where I just didn't get what people were doing or why, and it usually is because I fail to understand just what the average person is truly like. I keep expecting them to be logical like me. :D

[Kimstu]

I also make her wash her hands after pushing the kid carts at the grocery store, and stuff like that. I hope that doesn't make me a ridiculous germophobe.

Pass, friend. Frequent handwashing, especially after handling things lots of other people have handled, is a doctor-recommended way to cut down on disease transmission, and should be encouraged. Teaching your kids not to play with used tampons or other garbage and dirt is also reasonable.

What's "germophobic", IMHO, is when people irrationally avoid normal activities because they're afraid of touching something icky. Especially if they make things more inconvenient for other people in the process. People who spray pee on toilet seats because they're unreasonably afraid of sitting down on them, or who refuse to wash their hands after going to the bathroom because the water taps might be "contaminated" and thus smear their own fecal bacteria over everything they handle afterwards, are ridiculous germophobes, and selfish pigs to boot.

By the way, has anybody else encountered the particular form of mild toilet-seat germophobia that my mother tried to teach me? Namely: she puts her hands palm-down on the toilet seat and then sits on them. This way she's not "hovering" or spraying, but she's keeping her butt from touching the seat. Then she washes her hands after she leaves the stall, and, in theory, walks out the door with germ-free butt and hands. My mother's a wonderful person and taught me lots of great stuff, but I confess I never came close to seeing the point of that one. Do you know if anybody else in the history of the universe has ever taken this approach to using public restrooms? Do you think "hoverers" in general would be willing to adopt this method as a compromise? It's hard to believe that people who are so concerned about touching a public toilet seat with their delicate tushies would tolerate putting their hands on it instead, but if they would then it would save the world a lot of trouble, irritation, and sprayed pee.

[nashiitashii]

By the way, has anybody else encountered the particular form of mild toilet-seat germophobia that my mother tried to teach me? Namely: she puts her hands palm-down on the toilet seat and then sits on them. This way she's not "hovering" or spraying, but she's keeping her butt from touching the seat. Then she washes her hands after she leaves the stall, and, in theory, walks out the door with germ-free butt and hands. My mother's a wonderful person and taught me lots of great stuff, but I confess I never came close to seeing the point of that one. Do you know if anybody else in the history of the universe has ever taken this approach to using public restrooms? Do you think "hoverers" in general would be willing to adopt this method as a compromise? It's hard to believe that people who are so concerned about touching a public toilet seat with their delicate tushies would tolerate putting their hands on it instead, but if they would then it would save the world a lot of trouble, irritation, and sprayed pee.

You know, I've never heard of that before. It's a little odd, but not necessarily as odd as a compulsive need to spray the toilet seat with urine, pretend to wash one's own hands, then liberally apply perfume to avoid smelling like the bathroom. :confused:

[RogueRacer]

I never was a "hover-round'-- I laid toilet paper on the seat or used one of the provided tissue liners. I believe the scientific term is "ass gasket". :p

Don't feel bad. My boss seems to have the remarkable capability of wiping shit on the seat when he takes a dump. He also seems to feel no need to clean it up.

[Vinyl Turnip]

The bathroom in a restaurant where I used to work (chain pizza place) was frequently the target of rambunctious kids. It wasn't unusual to find water from the sink splashed up the mirror onto the ceiling, soap dispenser cracked open and its contents spattered across the floor and four walls, and toilet paper tossed around the room like streamers.

But one particular occurrence is forever burned in my mind: the day I walked in to see, in the bowl of the (only) toilet, an entire roll of toilet paper partially submerged in the water—and lying atop it, glistening like a wet brown seal perched on an exposed patch of iceberg, an enormous, freshly-laid turd.

As they say, some things, once seen, cannot be unseen. It's been over fifteen years and I still occasionally think of that marooned turd—wondering which of my poor co-workers ended up extracting the mess (it sure as hell wasn't me), and whether the entire performance piece was donated by a single artist, or whether it might have been a conspiracy, involving an initial vandal and a subsequent defecator who thought nothing of dropping a fudge bomb onto Mount Charmin.

[Gbro]

Ladies;
Its high time you get together and develop a "Squatters" toilet.
A male would have a extremely hard time in the design, unless he was a real raunchy voguer.
Thomas Crapper was a man, You Gal's need to do it "Your way"
Then it may be called say, Tina Tinkle Designed it "The Tinkle"
Yah, i hear you that the Crapper works fine for.... but you need one of your own for the multi-tasking going on in the powder room.

[Anaamika]

Ladies;
Its high time you get together and develop a "Squatters" toilet.
A male would have a extremely hard time in the design, unless he was a real raunchy voguer.
Thomas Crapper was a man, You Gal's need to do it "Your way"
Then it may be called say, Tina Tinkle Designed it "The Tinkle"
Yah, i hear you that the Crapper works fine for.... but you need one of your own for the multi-tasking going on in the powder room.
Hey watch this ladies crap. Not all of us need to hover. I'm just fine plopping my butt down on the toilet seat.

[Lissa]

I believe the scientific term is "ass gasket". :p

I really, really like that term.

[Cat Whisperer]

<snip>By the way, has anybody else encountered the particular form of mild toilet-seat germophobia that my mother tried to teach me? Namely: she puts her hands palm-down on the toilet seat and then sits on them.<snip>
"You got your filthy hand germs on my nice, clean legs!"

[Gbro]

Hey watch this ladies crap. Not all of us need to hover. I'm just fine plopping my butt down on the toilet seat.


Just trying to say that Crapper's Crapper was designed by a man, Now its not the most natural position for the female, as every one i have seen squats much lower to do the job right. (out in nature)
Angles those angles are way wrong. I have 3 daughters, and our seat didn't have a "bush cut" in it, i was forever the recipient of yellow and red residue.
Thank you God for the fine work you did on the male anatomy.

[lee]

I have used squatters before. It is no fun. I have managed to piss down my leg, get my jump suit in the hole, and to piss in my shoes. I do just fine on a regular toilet, thank you very much.

[teela brown]

I have used squatters before. It is no fun. I have managed to piss down my leg, get my jump suit in the hole, and to piss in my shoes. I do just fine on a regular toilet, thank you very much.

You haven't lived until you've had mal des voyageurs in France, driven all over hell and gone looking for a john (while trying to hold it), and had to use a toilette a la turk in a dive cafe out in the boonies. And I was damned glad to find it, too. But yuck.

[Malienation]

I would also like to express my displeasure at automatic sensors for taps and paper towels that don't work. I'm waving my hands like freakin' Merlin, and nothing's coming out, man.Been there, done that. You stand there frantically waving your hands and hoping you are not telling the guy next to you to go fuck himself in sign language...and nothing happens. Either that or it turns on for 2 seconds, just long enough to suck you in to another round of digital gymnastics.

[hawksgirl]

Been there, done that. You stand there frantically waving your hands and hoping you are not telling the guy next to you to go fuck himself in sign language...and nothing happens. Either that or it turns on for 2 seconds, just long enough to suck you in to another round of digital gymnastics.
The key is to pretend that you don't even want it. Just walk right by... and the sensors catch. Tricky buggers.

[Rubystreak]

It's probably a high percentage of the same. Hoverers or toilet paper nesters are probably the ones who make such a huge, huge deal over a man who leaves the seat up.

I make a big deal when my BF leaves the seat up. I have good reasons for doing so, and none of them involve hovering or touching the toilet seat.

Two of my cats drink out of the toilet whenever possible. I don't want them to because it's not as clean as I would like sometimes, and I don't think it's good for them. I also don't want them to fall in, and believe me, these sterling examples of geriatic feline grace could well drown themselves in the bowl. So I want the lid down too, not just the seat.

[Quiddity Glomfuster]

I have to say, glib as this sounds, it is excellent advice. My husband and I have had any number of conversations where I just didn't get what people were doing or why, and it usually is because I fail to understand just what the average person is truly like. I keep expecting them to be logical like me. :D

Yeah, me too. I have a friend who keeps patiently explaining to me that my brain don't work the same as most folks'.

Now its not the most natural position for the female, as every one i have seen squats much lower to do the job right. (out in nature)

That's because in nature there's nothing betwixt your groinal area and your socks and shoes to catch the items being dispensed. It's not by any means the ideal postion for women, just the only feasible one when a toilet isn't available.

[catsix]

RubyStreak said:
I make a big deal when my BF leaves the seat up. I have good reasons for doing so, and none of them involve hovering or touching the toilet seat.

Two of my cats drink out of the toilet whenever possible. I don't want them to because it's not as clean as I would like sometimes, and I don't think it's good for them. I also don't want them to fall in, and believe me, these sterling examples of geriatic feline grace could well drown themselves in the bowl. So I want the lid down too, not just the seat.

Doesn't this involve the lid and the seat though? Since most cats have the ability to perch on the seat and stick their head through the hole, I'd imagine the only way to really prevent them drinking out of the toilet is to put the lid down also.

[Malacandra]

Doesn't this involve the lid and the seat though? Since most cats have the ability to perch on the seat and stick their head through the hole, I'd imagine the only way to really prevent them drinking out of the toilet is to put the lid down also.

That'd be why Ruby said:

So I want the lid down too, not just the seat.

[Cat Whisperer]

I love catching the cats (only one does this regularly, actually) drinking out of the toilet. So dignified - head way down in the bowl, fuzzy ass waving in the air...

[catsix]

Malacandra said:
That'd be why Ruby said:


Which makes it a completely different ball park than 'Put the seat down so I don't get my dainty ass wet.'


It's a rule regarding the toilet lid that applies to everyone and is in place for a practical purpose.

[DrDeth]

You are aware that you can't get any diseases from a toilet seat, are you not?.

I would not be so sure about that. Certainly you can catch diseases like the flu by touching a surface that the prior infectee has touched. However, the canard about catching gonorrhea or syphilis from atoilet seat is false.e

But yes, the piss on the seat is caused mainly by "hoverers" who are pathologically afraid of germs to the point where their behavior becomes self-fulfilling. If one pees on the toilet seat in order to avoid touching urine, there will be urine on the seat.

Urine is mostly sterile. One should wipe if off, of course, and if one is germaphobic, using the "ass gasket" is OK.

Oddly- in the nicer places, the Ladie's is often filthy and the Men's not so bad. It seems that women who keep their home bathroom sterile "let it out" when using a public facility.

Of course there are also moronic men who have to pee in the toilet rather than using the urinal. Some do it because the urinals are all busy (OK) some because they are too shy to pee- and if you are the latter, you should talk to someone.

But even if you must use th etoilet as a urinal- ferkristessake, lift the fucking seat, willya? :mad:

[Lissa]

Some do it because the urinals are all busy (OK) some because they are too shy to pee- and if you are the latter, you should talk to someone.

Why? I don't want to pee in front of somebody else. It's not that I can't go-- it's that I prefer to complete my eliminatory functions in privacy. If women had "urinals" I wouldn't use them-- I'd go into a stall. I don't see why that should be considered abnormal to the point of needing professional help.

When I was in grade school, the girls bathroom had no doors on the stalls. (I never got a clear explanation as to why they had been removed.) Some girls would team up with a partner who would stand with her back to the pisser and try to shield them from view as much as possible.

I credit that bathroom with giving me my industrial strength bladder. I never used the bathroom at school unless it was a real emergency and even then, I tried to save it for a time when everyone else was in class and I had a good chance of being the only person in there.

[nashiitashii]

Oddly- in the nicer places, the Ladie's is often filthy and the Men's not so bad. It seems that women who keep their home bathroom sterile "let it out" when using a public facility.

Exactly. Why is it that, when I have to use the bathroom while on a "nice" outing, I get treated conditions that are disgusting, while I can go into the local gas station/McDonald's/etc. and it'll be comparatively spotless? Not that I want the "lower" places to be dirty too, but why on earth is it that people think they can, and have every right to trash a public bathroom?

[Anaamika]

When I was in grade school, the girls bathroom had no doors on the stalls. (I never got a clear explanation as to why they had been removed.) Some girls would team up with a partner who would stand with her back to the pisser and try to shield them from view as much as possible.


See, now this would give me hives. I'm not shy about peeing, but I don't have the facilities to whip it out quickly like boys. I need a door goddamnit. I would have whined to my mother, and her being as prudish as she was, would have complained to the authorities.

[Kimstu]

Why? I don't want to pee in front of somebody else. It's not that I can't go-- it's that I prefer to complete my eliminatory functions in privacy. If women had "urinals" I wouldn't use them-- I'd go into a stall. I don't see why that should be considered abnormal to the point of needing professional help.

Well, I agree with you that it's not necessarily a professional-help matter, but DrDeth is right that peeing in the presence of others is fairly standard procedure for guys, and they're socialized to accept it at least from adolescence on up. A guy refusing to pee except in the privacy of a locked stall is probably a lot more unusual than a woman refusing to do so, although that doesn't necessarily make him mentally abnormal.

[DrDeth]

Well, I agree with you that it's not necessarily a professional-help matter, but DrDeth is right that peeing in the presence of others is fairly standard procedure for guys, and they're socialized to accept it at least from adolescence on up. A guy refusing to pee except in the privacy of a locked stall is probably a lot more unusual than a woman refusing to do so, although that doesn't necessarily make him mentally abnormal.

It's not so much a preference to pee in private, it's an inability to use a public urinal. And, that's not mentally abnormal, but getting some counseling wouldn't hurt.

[MaddyStrut]

[QUOTE=Lissa]When I was in grade school, the girls bathroom had no doors on the stalls. (I never got a clear explanation as to why they had been removed.) Some girls would team up with a partner who would stand with her back to the pisser and try to shield them from view as much as possible.
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My high school started the "no doors on stalls" thing while I was there. They were afraid we'd do drugs or smoke cigarettes in stalls with doors. Grade school is a bit extreme though!

[Lissa]

My high school started the "no doors on stalls" thing while I was there. They were afraid we'd do drugs or smoke cigarettes in stalls with doors. Grade school is a bit extreme though!

Oddly enough, the middle school (4th-6th grade) was right next door and the girls' restroom in there had stall doors. So did the high school.

[nashiitashii]

When I was in grade school, the girls bathroom had no doors on the stalls. (I never got a clear explanation as to why they had been removed.) Some girls would team up with a partner who would stand with her back to the pisser and try to shield them from view as much as possible.


My high school started the "no doors on stalls" thing while I was there. They were afraid we'd do drugs or smoke cigarettes in stalls with doors. Grade school is a bit extreme though!

The place where I attended Sunday School had a preschool through high school associated with it. The preschool and kindergarten bathrooms had no doors on the stalls, as children under the age of five tended to lock themselves into the stalls and forget how to unlock them.

[Vinyl Turnip]

When I was in grade school, the girls bathroom had no doors on the stalls. (I never got a clear explanation as to why they had been removed.) Some girls would team up with a partner who would stand with her back to the pisser and try to shield them from view as much as possible.

My school was the same. But in the boys' bathroom there was no such helpful "buddy system"as you describe, but rather a kind of pack mentality, so any kid unlucky enough to (literally) be caught with his pants down could be assured of an audience of his peers, pointing and hooting and laughing hysterically.

Only a true sadist would put doorless stalls in an elementary school bathroom. I didn't take a daytime dump for five years.

[BMalion]

I am very sorry that this offends you. ...

...I would never sit on a public toilet seat...

and yet, it's ladies like this who have no qualms about letting their husbands/boyfriends commit unspeakable atrocities on, and put unmentionable horrors into, their bottoms. :D

[scottkris]

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[nashiitashii]

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That would make a lot more sense if there were some context and properly used tags applied. Want to try again?

[Hippy Hollow]

Excellent rant. Bathroom behavior is something I never understood. I learned to crap at home and hold it in public. As I've gotten older, I've learned to use the public facilities. My biggest rant is for airport lavvies. They are truly disgusting, because people feel that a five-hour flight entitles them to shitting on the walls and not flushing. Fortunately I almost always just need a urinal...

I will also contribute my $.02 and add that women's bathrooms are infinitely more disgusting than men's. I was a wage slave at K-mart as a youth, charged with the responsibility of cleaning the lavvies every evening. Men - occasionally peed on seats and the floor, and every now and then I'd find a floating loaf. That was it, really. Women - let's see, tampons and pads in various stages of saturation, shit on the seat and floor, piss everywhere, clogged toilets... the list goes on. It's interesting to hear that the germophobes are the ones who are likely propagating this phenomenon.

Women clearly have more things to make a mess with compared to gents. If guys menstruated and peed sitting down, I would fear for the state of humanity.

Oh, and scottkris? WTF? :confused:

[nashiitashii]

Excellent rant. Bathroom behavior is something I never understood. I learned to crap at home and hold it in public. As I've gotten older, I've learned to use the public facilities. My biggest rant is for airport lavvies. They are truly disgusting, because people feel that a five-hour flight entitles them to shitting on the walls and not flushing. Fortunately I almost always just need a urinal...

I will also contribute my $.02 and add that women's bathrooms are infinitely more disgusting than men's. I was a wage slave at K-mart as a youth, charged with the responsibility of cleaning the lavvies every evening. Men - occasionally peed on seats and the floor, and every now and then I'd find a floating loaf. That was it, really. Women - let's see, tampons and pads in various stages of saturation, shit on the seat and floor, piss everywhere, clogged toilets... the list goes on. It's interesting to hear that the germophobes are the ones who are likely propagating this phenomenon.

Women clearly have more things to make a mess with compared to gents. If guys menstruated and peed sitting down, I would fear for the state of humanity.

Oh, and scottkris? WTF? :confused:

I've only once volunteered to do bathroom maintenance while working at a movie theater. This particular one had a large elderly population, so there wasn't nearly as much mess as I'd seen in bathrooms that catered to a more age-diverse population, but there was still little issues with toilet paper and such on the floor, and it was easier to clean. However, despite the fact that a larger portion of the customers required assistance with their bathroom duties than other locations, the place was pretty clean. No feces drawings, no urine or menstrual spills, and it was pretty darned rare to have a toilet that wasn't flushed or had leftovers dripped on the seat. I really have to wonder what happened between the current elderly generation and the generations of women that followed who do disgusting things in the bathroom.

As for scottkris, none of the posts they've made lately make any sense whatsoever. (Out of curiosity, I checked the last 10 posts or so that he made, and none of them are nearly as eloquent or well coded as this one.) :dubious: :rolleyes:

[Malacandra]

Which makes it a completely different ball park than 'Put the seat down so I don't get my dainty ass wet.'


It's a rule regarding the toilet lid that applies to everyone and is in place for a practical purpose.

Agreed. And I'd happily go for putting the lid down anyway. It looks tidier.

When I get up for a wee-small-hours pee, I often sit down anyway, to save the disturbance caused by putting the light on. I find I can perch quite safely, if less comfortably, on the bare rim, just as well as if the seat were down, and I've never been in danger of falling in. Really, anyone who can't look before they leap doesn't get my sympathy.

At work I have ranted before about people who leave cuds of chewing gum in the men's urinals. That's just jam-packed full of tasty WTFitude. :rolleyes:

[Full Metal Lotus]

Yrs ago, just after the last glaciers receded into the north, and our tribe feasted on Mammoth, I had a girlfriend I had been dating for a few weeks...

the big night came when she invited me over to her place, and in the course of the evening, I used the toilet.

Written, in a feminine hand, on the underside of the toilet seat, was the message "It's so nice to have a man around the place!".

I complimented her on that appropriately placed wittisism, and she replied "Oh, that... I wroite that YRS ago, but Thanks! for lifting the lid, sweetie!"


Regards
FML

[Rubystreak]

When I was teaching high school, we had a phenomenon we called The Phantom Shitter. Some kid would smear feces all over the walls of boys bathroom. Apparently, it was lots and lots of shit and it was everywhere. The school was concerned because this is a sign of serious mental disturbance, took great pains to find out who it was, but kept it all confidential. I always wondered who it was and what the hell was up with him. I have to say, when I hear all these tales of people crapping all over the place, I wonder if all the people who do that are having some psychiatric problem. It's a bit scary.

[Quiddity Glomfuster]

Agreed. And I'd happily go for putting the lid down anyway. It looks tidier.

Not only that, but I can't believe that people who are squeamish about toilet seats (which hands never need to come into contact with) wouldn't be sure their lids are shut at home to avoid toilet aerosol (www.straightdope.com/classics/a990416.html) - one of my earliest memories of reading any Cecilisms, BTW.

[gonzomax]

My wife bitches about this all the time. Not that occasionally the seat gets wet but I do it from the hallway. Gotta have a little challenge.

[CanvasShoes]

Say, who was that poster who was unbelievably disgusted when a houseguest had the audacity to pinch a loaf in her precious, sterile bathroom? Cause Foxy's attitude fills me with the same confusion.
I don't remember the poster, but it was a workman, the foul workingclass!

:D

[Fionn]

The poster was SatOnCookie, and I don't think she ever shared what the workman did that rendered the bathroom unusable for multiple days.

[Lissa]

I don't remember the poster, but it was a workman, the foul workingclass!

:D

This reminds me of a conversation I had with the previous owner of my house. She told me this tale when we were over to discuss a few things about the sale.

It seems the last time she had employed a crew of movers, one of them had left a few droplets of urine on her toilet seat. So, she informed me, she had given a stern lecture to this crew of movers that they'd better not pee on her toilet seat and she would be checking.

I can't imagine how embarassing it must have been for those movers to be treated like kindergarteners, lectured for something they didn't even do.

[NajaNivea]

I am very sorry that this offends you. It is very possible that you overhead me with my child. I would never sit on a public toilet seat and the thought of letting my little girl put her tushy on something that strangers with unknown hygiene habits have planted their's makes me shudder. I don't care if it has been cleaned within two hours. During that time, who knows who has sat on that seat.
That being said, I try to be aware to wipe off any urine ending up on the seat when I am balancing over the bowl. Shame on those ladies that do not have the same courtesy.
You know what? YOU are one of those "strangers" that freak you out. YOU are the bitch that pisses all over the fucking place because of your misplaced paranoia. You are the idiot with the fucked up hygiene habits. :rolleyes:

You "try" to be aware to wipe your piss off the seat. Jesus fucking christ!

Do you do the same shit at your friends houses? I bet you do.

Word. Foxy, it's people like you who make public restrooms inhospitable.

I work in a small medical facility with a centrally located bathroom. We put patients into the bathroom (meaning I lead you in and escort you away to your exam room) personally and therefore keep in mind that I will see you go in and come out and also see the toilet seat which you have covered in piss. This being the circumstance, it amazes me how many people will still pee all over the seat for me to clean up--even knowing that everyone will know it was you.
Oddly, even though women's restrooms are generally far nastier, it was always the guys that would do it. Maybe the identification factor just didn't occur to them, I dunno.

[BMalion]

When I was teaching high school, we had a phenomenon we called The Phantom Shitter. Some kid would smear feces all over the walls of boys bathroom. Apparently, it was lots and lots of shit and it was everywhere. The school was concerned because this is a sign of serious mental disturbance, ...


Sounds like the episode "The Case of the Mad Vandal" from The National Lampoon Radio Show. (http://www.marksverylarge.com/nlrh/nlrh740608_30.html)

[RedWood]

in my house, by mutual agreement, the default position is both lid and seat down, thank you. Why?

1: kitties cannot drink therefrom and ingest odd toilet additives
2: I cannot fall in in the middle of the night when I am mostly asleep and gotta GO...
3: everyone does the same work to use it (also: Hi, Opal!)
4: no spray if flushing after lid is down!!! Whee!

oh! I am female, my partner's male.

[Gfactor]

Zombie!