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Frylock
02-25-2007, 08:25 PM
I just saw a clip of the judge in the Ana Nicole Smith hearing choking up and sobbing while delivering the decision.

WTF? Why?

-FrL-

Campion
02-25-2007, 08:36 PM
Judges behave a bit differently when there's no jury. But frankly, the judge should have considered the omnipresent cameras to be a jury of sorts and conducted himself accordingly.

Nevertheless, that clip is pretty strange. But judges are human, and maybe he just got caught up in the drama of it all.

Frylock
02-25-2007, 08:42 PM
Everyone who is even just associated with ANS ends up having mood altering drugs slipped into their drinks.

That's all I can think of. :)

-FrL-

(And, oh man, I've just convinced by tinfoil side that whoever it is that got to ANS and her son have now gotten to the judge, as well, though in a slightly different sense. And the judge is upset about being forced to make a decision that goes against what he thinks is the right one. And, oh man, it all makes sense now. [/tinfoil])

Alice The Goon
02-25-2007, 09:37 PM
I've heard that his wife says that the judge wants to be on TV in some capacity, like his own reality show, so I'd say dude is hamming it up for the cameras.

Mahaloth
02-25-2007, 09:55 PM
I've heard that his wife says that the judge wants to be on TV in some capacity, like his own reality show, so I'd say dude is hamming it up for the cameras.

I believe you and I know it's a cliche, but.... cite?

Alice The Goon
02-25-2007, 10:03 PM
Here (abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=2896934&page=1) his wife discusses it.

Gadarene
02-26-2007, 06:20 AM
I have no words to describe how inappropriately he behaved.

zuma
02-26-2007, 06:31 AM
One would think that anyone who would want to be a tv judge over a real judge should be immediately removed from the bench.

Frankly, andyone who wanted to be on tv should be fired from whatever job they have. This seems to be sickness in our society.

Marley23
02-26-2007, 08:34 AM
I knew they shouldn't have cast Jeffrey Tambor as the judge. He's funny, but he's wrong for a dramatic role.

Vinyl Turnip
02-26-2007, 09:07 AM
I knew they shouldn't have cast Jeffrey Tambor as the judge. He's funny, but he's wrong for a dramatic role.

I was thinking perhaps Vincent Schiavelli (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001704/) or Jonathan Katz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Katz), but the former is dead and the latter apparently not well.

The judge may have to play himself in the inevitable TV movie(s).

Elendil's Heir
02-26-2007, 09:09 AM
He's a disgrace to the bench. Away with him.

Gadarene
02-26-2007, 09:11 AM
He's a disgrace to the bench. Away with him.

IIRC, aren't you a magistrate, Elendil's Heir? I can only imagine that you've never broken down weeping multiple times during a hearing. :)

Elendil's Heir
02-26-2007, 09:36 AM
I always order a recess when I need to cry like a little girl.

An Arky
02-26-2007, 09:45 AM
Well, at least he wasn't masturbating like a motherf*ck.

zamboniracer
02-26-2007, 10:19 AM
I hadn't seen the clip until I was alerted to it by a friend of mine who is a magistrate. She called his weeping on the bench disgraceful and further reason the law and lawyers are too often rightfully considered with contempt by the public, and I agree with her.

Cheesesteak
02-26-2007, 10:46 AM
It's remarkably unprofessional to sit there weeping while doing your job. That statement applies to practically any job in existance. The fact that a judge is supposed to be dignified and respected by the court makes even more unforgivable.

I have to stand up when you enter the room, and you're going to cry like a baby when discussing the case? I don't think so.

Elendil's Heir
02-26-2007, 11:14 AM
At least he didn't say "Hi, Opal!" or say "Anna Nicole Smith's decomposing remains... Band Name!" I'll give him that, at least.

Trunk
02-26-2007, 11:19 AM
It's remarkably unprofessional to sit there weeping while doing your job.
This is very disrespectful to all of the professional onion peelers in the world, and I think you owe them an apology.

friedo
02-26-2007, 11:23 AM
A friend of mine likes to say, "every case gets the judge it deserves."

Oakminster
02-26-2007, 11:24 AM
I've never seen a Judge weep on the bench. I've been in front of lots of Judges, all over my state, in a wide variety of cases. Never seen anything come close to that performance. Can't imagine one of "my" Judges acting like that.

What Exit?
02-26-2007, 11:29 AM
This is probably a good place to ask. I have seen many people treating ANS like she was something special and not just a sideshow and a train wreck. What am I missing? I consider her no more pertinent than Britney or Paris. Would people really be expressing anything but polite regrets if either of them passed away? I feel like I am missing something here.

ETA: I know that sounds cold, but I am genuinely puzzled by these fringe celebrities.

Jim

Marley23
02-26-2007, 11:47 AM
Never seen anything come close to that performance.
I think "performance" is the correct word here.

AuntiePam
02-26-2007, 12:00 PM
I watched a few hours of the hearing on Wednesday. It was obvious that the judge was playing to the cameras. The case was supposed to be decided on Friday, but the decision (such as it was) unexpectedly came down on Thursday. I wonder if a court administrator (or whoever oversees judges) told him to stop the shenanigans.

glee
02-26-2007, 12:05 PM
So was he genuinely upset - or was he just playing to the cameras?

"Earlier in the week-long hearing, Seidlin told one high-strung blonde lawyer that she was beautiful, and took cell phone calls from his wife. He shared his morning exercise routine with the courtroom and the cameras."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=2896934&page=1

Media whore - not correct behaviour for a judge. :rolleyes:

scotandrsn
02-26-2007, 12:29 PM
Earlier this week, Dateline had numerous clips from the hearings. Crying at the end was the least of it. The judge was a complete wackjob throughout. I've never seen such unprofessional behavior.

He is visibly mentally tweaked and ought to be removed from the bench.

gigi
02-26-2007, 01:30 PM
This is very disrespectful to all of the professional onion peelers in the world, and I think you owe them an apology.And product-testing rabbits.

monstro
02-26-2007, 04:24 PM
I find it hard to believe that those were sincere tears. He's an experienced judge. Experience should make him desensitized to court room drama, right? And I can think of much sadder cases than this one. You've got a healthy baby who's never going to starve for food, attention, or love. She's not drug-addicted, handicapped, or abused. I fail to see why this case stands out as extra tragic, deserving of extra tears and wails.

Jeep's Phoenix
02-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Well, at least he wasn't masturbating like a motherf*ck.
Or using a penis pump (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0121051judge1.html) (SFW, really!) while court was in session...

WilhelmGefallen
02-26-2007, 09:02 PM
I was thinking perhaps Vincent Schiavelli (http://imdb.com/name/nm0001704/) or Jonathan Katz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Katz), but the former is dead and the latter apparently not well.

The judge may have to play himself in the inevitable TV movie(s).


I was thinking Carmen Argenziano (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0034492/)

scotandrsn
02-26-2007, 09:10 PM
I was thinking Carmen Argenziano (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0034492/)

Interesting, I though he was a dead ringer for the aged Henry Winkler.

Frostillicus
02-26-2007, 09:26 PM
I'm confused. Was the judge reluctantly sentencing the 5 year-old to death by lethal injection?

KidCharlemagne
02-27-2007, 11:01 AM
I can't imagine that the judge's crying doesn't make it a hell of a lot easier to get an appeal if anyone wanted one. It's utterly ridiculous. How can one be expected to make a reasonable judgement when so emotionally invested in the case.

Frylock
02-27-2007, 11:10 AM
I can't imagine that the judge's crying doesn't make it a hell of a lot easier to get an appeal if anyone wanted one. It's utterly ridiculous. How can one be expected to make a reasonable judgement when so emotionally invested in the case.

Thinkin' the same thing.

-FrL-

Honey
02-27-2007, 11:15 AM
It looks like Judge Fonzie may have gotten the show he wanted.

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254667,00.html)

ZipperJJ
02-27-2007, 11:54 AM
My folks watched the trial...or they saw it on the news or something...and when they saw Fred Armistan's impression of the judge on Saturday Night Live (Weekend Update) this weekend they said he was dead on.

Unbelieveable.

AuntiePam
02-27-2007, 01:17 PM
It looks like Judge Fonzie may have gotten the show he wanted.

Link (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,254667,00.html)

CBS wants to talk with him because they were impressed with the sympathy he showed during the hearing? Gimme a break. If Seidlin had had any sympathy, he wouldn't have dragged that hearing out for five days while ANS's body continued to rot.

He does look a bit like Fonzie, doesn't he? Heh.

shamrock227
02-27-2007, 03:13 PM
He does look a bit like Fonzie, doesn't he? Heh.
I think Stanley Tucci should play him in the movie.

Zebra
02-27-2007, 03:16 PM
Maybe rainy days and stupid custody suits get him down.