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NAF1138
03-26-2007, 11:47 AM
Ok, I got the Mods blessing as well as RT's to start the next round of play.

If you are not already familiar with the game, be sure to check out the previous thread (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=407197&highlight=werewolf) to familiarise yourself with the basics.

I am thinking this one will be Mafia based, but if there are enough people signing up to play I will possibly add in some werewolves and other goodies.

Sign up in this thread and make sure that your PM is turned on because that is how I will contact you with a confirmation and your game character.


I figure we should give the whole thing 3 days or so to allow players to sign up, but if we hit 40 players before the 3 days are up I will end the sign in period early since I think 40 is the max this game can handle.

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

:D

Rysto
03-26-2007, 11:48 AM
I'm in. Hopefully I'll last longer than one day this time.

Fretful Porpentine
03-26-2007, 11:50 AM
Ooh, can I play?

MadTheSwine
03-26-2007, 11:54 AM
Sign me up!!!

chrisk
03-26-2007, 11:54 AM
Okay, I know I gave up my earlier 'reservation' ;) But based mostly on how the first game has turned out, I'm going to commit to #2.

What are some of the usual details of the Mafia variant? Does the action take place in an italian Chicago neighborhood?

Maybe I'll be the mild-mannered accountant who lives alone and doesn't talk much when he goes down to the bar.

:D

Smitty
03-26-2007, 12:01 PM
Count me in

Winston Smith
03-26-2007, 12:03 PM
Sign me up!!!


If he's in, I'm in. Emain address is in profile.

MadTheSwine
03-26-2007, 12:03 PM
I would also like to add...this game can take a long time,maybe 2 months,please think ahead and don't join if you are gonna be away for an extended vacation or what not.
I was thinking maybe add a mandatory post rule? Say at least one post every third day(unless you have express written consent from NAF1138) or something along those lines to avoid the lurking strategy. What do ya'll think?

MadTheSwine
03-26-2007, 12:05 PM
If he's in, I'm in. Emain address is in profile.

Don't do anything rash Winston,no hard feelings eh?

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-26-2007, 12:06 PM
I'd like to play.

--FCOD

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 12:08 PM
Yeah, I think a madatory posting rule is a good idea. Everyone has to post at least 3 times a "game day". What they post is up to them.

I am thinking that the Days will be 5 real time days or until a majority lynch vote has been reached, and that nights will be a maximum of 2 real time days long. So we can keep the game moving.

storyteller0910
03-26-2007, 12:18 PM
Yeah, I think a madatory posting rule is a good idea. Everyone has to post at least 3 times a "game day". What they post is up to them.

I am thinking that the Days will be 5 real time days or until a majority lynch vote has been reached, and that nights will be a maximum of 2 real time days long. So we can keep the game moving.

I would definitely like to play. I have turned on PM and look forward to hearing about the beginning of the game.

Thanks for continuing the festivities, NAF1138!

chrisk
03-26-2007, 12:19 PM
Okay - I'm never far from a net connection, even on vacation really, so that shouldn't be a problem for me.

CaerieD
03-26-2007, 12:43 PM
Definitely count me in!

MadTheSwine
03-26-2007, 12:46 PM
RT did a fantastic job running the last game and this one will be a rousing success, NAF1138, if you do even half as good a job as he did.That said, a couple other things that might add to the enjoyment of the game,after the day is done,players may need to be reminded that it is now night and no strategizing is allowed(maybe a direct post saying so at the end of each day).Along the same lines,reminders to observers not to put in opinions(thats what the forbidden thread is for,assuming there is gonna be one).
I also have a question for RT and NAF1138 ,was your, and is your, role assignment random?

Damn,this is fun already,can't wait to get started!

Hockey Monkey
03-26-2007, 12:46 PM
I definitely want to play. Email addy is in my profile. Coooooooooooool!

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 12:52 PM
RT did a fantastic job running the last game and this one will be a rousing success, NAF1138, if you do even half as good a job as he did.That said, a couple other things that might add to the enjoyment of the game,after the day is done,players may need to be reminded that it is now night and no strategizing is allowed(maybe a direct post saying so at the end of each day).Along the same lines,reminders to observers not to put in opinions(thats what the forbidden thread is for,assuming there is gonna be one).
I also have a question for RT and NAF1138 ,was your, and is your, role assignment random?

Damn,this is fun already,can't wait to get started!


Good point, don't talk strategy at night. And observers should keep posts to the designated observation threads.

I will list a complete set of rules for this game once we have a full player roster, but it will be just about the same as RT's, maybe a tweak here or there.


And yeah, I am going to make the role assignments random. And I will set up a google group for the mafia.

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-26-2007, 12:56 PM
Question: Will the Mafia members be allowed to discuss on their private board during the "day"?

--FCOD

brewha
03-26-2007, 12:56 PM
Count me in. I'll send you an email.

Queuing
03-26-2007, 01:01 PM
I am in please.

MadTheSwine
03-26-2007, 01:03 PM
Good point, don't talk strategy at night. And observers should keep posts to the designated observation threads.

I will list a complete set of rules for this game once we have a full player roster, but it will be just about the same as RT's, maybe a tweak here or there.


And yeah, I am going to make the role assignments random. And I will set up a google group for the mafia.

Not trying to step on your toes NAF just thought I would point out a few things.They may be unavoidable though.

Thanks for the game!

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 01:08 PM
Question: Will the Mafia members be allowed to discuss on their private board during the "day"?

--FCOD


That depends. On what, I don't want to say. But I will say, that I am planing on keeping some things secret for the town. I will let you all know the possibilities of what characters there are and what they each can do...but I am not going to say which are in the game and which aren't. There may be masons, maybe not. There may be a serial killer, maybe not. I thik that now that everyone has had a taste of the game that this added mystery will provide a bit of spice.

I got the idea from mafiascum.com where this seems to be the standard MO for big games. So go check out a few of those games if you want to get a better idea of how this should work out.

ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
03-26-2007, 01:15 PM
I'm opting out this round. I'm bouncing back and forth from California to Georgia and back over the next week or so, 4 days of which are going to be confined to a Subaru full of 4 cats, 2 dogs, and a girlfriend who will be quitting smoking. Needless to say, I'd much rather be playing with y'all.

Winston Smith
03-26-2007, 01:18 PM
Don't do anything rash Winston,no hard feelings eh?

Not at all.

I vote we lynch MadTheSwine!

:D

cowgirl
03-26-2007, 01:43 PM
I was totally hooked on the last thread. Sign me up.

off to study MafiaScum.com...

Autolycus
03-26-2007, 01:48 PM
I'm in like Flynn. E-mail is in my profile :)

Gadarene
03-26-2007, 01:49 PM
I'm in! PM is enabled.

Blaster Master
03-26-2007, 02:06 PM
Count me in too!

moonstarssun
03-26-2007, 02:07 PM
As much fun as it was last time, I'll have to sit out this round. I'm starting a new round of classes that look like they'll keep me busy for the next few weeks.

Sigh. Stupid new career getting in the way of my werewolf games. grumble, grumble...

Lakai
03-26-2007, 02:27 PM
Sign me up.

MonkeyMensch
03-26-2007, 02:30 PM
Sign or queue me up, please

kivvik
03-26-2007, 02:31 PM
Sign me up as well!

Enginerd
03-26-2007, 02:32 PM
I'm going to sit this one out as well. I'll be traveling a few times in the next couple of weeks, and that's not really conducive to playing.

It'll be nice to be able to read this thread just once, though. And I'm looking forward to reading the commentary in real time!

Santo Rugger
03-26-2007, 02:39 PM
I missed out last time, I'd love to play this time!

ArizonaTeach
03-26-2007, 02:46 PM
Oh, I am so in.

Pleonast
03-26-2007, 02:46 PM
I'm in!

The Understander
03-26-2007, 02:51 PM
I wanna play too--this is gonna be so sweet...

E-mail is in the profile, so drop me a line!

nesta
03-26-2007, 02:59 PM
Sign me up.

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 02:59 PM
OK so we are up to 24 players alredy, and I want to make sure that everyone who played last time and "signed up" for the next round early gets to play. So I am going to put a temporary hold on signups just until everyone gets back to me.

I don't know why I thought it would take 3 days to fill this thing up.

Aguecheek
03-26-2007, 02:59 PM
I'm in.

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 03:01 PM
I'm in.

Augecheek is the last one in until I get word from the other players.

Aguecheek
03-26-2007, 03:08 PM
Augecheek is the last one in until I get word from the other players.Woo! I feel like Indiana Jones grabbing his hat at the last moment. Go me!

MonkeyMensch
03-26-2007, 03:57 PM
Woo! I feel like Indiana Jones grabbing his hat at the last moment. Go me!

Would that make you Indrew Aguecheek in that case?

Aguecheek
03-26-2007, 04:03 PM
:D

Indiandrew?

Gukumatz
03-26-2007, 04:07 PM
I'm in, mail's in the profile :)

Gukumatz
03-26-2007, 04:16 PM
Ack - didn't see the signups were held up. Ah well, count me as a hopeful then.

Malacandra
03-26-2007, 04:48 PM
Augecheek is the last one in until I get word from the other players.

Do I count as an early signup? I've only been asking to be dealt in since, well, weeks ago...

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 05:08 PM
Do I count as an early signup? I've only been asking to be dealt in since, well, weeks ago...

Yes, you are in. Sorry I missed you when I sent out the email. I think RT was keeping a list, but I wasn't. If I missed anyone else help me out and link to your sign up post please.

StarvingButStrong
03-26-2007, 05:47 PM
I still want to play, oh yes, indeedy! Thanks for the head's up. :)

Kayeby
03-26-2007, 06:44 PM
Count me in if the sign-ups re-open.

Kat
03-26-2007, 06:53 PM
I'm still in, with one question, regarding the following from MadTheSwine:
I would also like to add...this game can take a long time,maybe 2 months,please think ahead and don't join if you are gonna be away for an extended vacation or what not.

I will be out of town for about a week at the end of May and probably without Internet access during that time, does that rule me out?

Idle Thoughts
03-26-2007, 07:15 PM
Dammit, heh. I kept checking every day since RT's thread ended and never saw a new game starting. Now I do and it seems it's already closed for new sign ups. Hahaha, ah well, If they open again, I'd love to play. If they don't, I'll still happily watch the new game.

Suburban Plankton
03-26-2007, 07:30 PM
So I get home, check my GMail account, and there's a message that "Werewolf 2" is starting up. Do I want in? Sure! So I saunter over to the thread to claim my spot, and the thread is already on Page 2. I check my email; did it come in over the weekend and I missed it? No, the email was sent just 3 hours ago, and the thread has only been open since this morning.

It's really too bad that nobody is interested in this game.


Count me in.

Menocchio
03-26-2007, 07:35 PM
I'm in.

And this time, I promise I won't be the Alpha.

If only because we're dropping the Werewolf theme

chrisk
03-26-2007, 07:44 PM
Hmm... that raises an interesting point. Most of us will immediately be inclined either to DISTRUST players who were werewolves last time, or to TRUST them because it seems too obvious to make them scum again.

Of course, the simple fact is that they're probably as likely to have a mafioso among their number as any similar-sized group who were townies last time, or who are brand-new players like meself.

One interesting tidbit, though, is that the last few weres probably have a lot of insight into each others scum styles, and would be uniquely qualified to tell based on little information about the others. If only we could trust them to tell the truth about each other.

:D

Captain Carrot
03-26-2007, 08:12 PM
I'd like to go again as well, especially if I get to be something other than a plain-vanilla townie.

ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
03-26-2007, 08:57 PM
I'd like to go again as well, especially if I get to be something other than a plain-vanilla townie.

I must say that role is the suck.

Fern Forest
03-26-2007, 09:33 PM
You know I'm in.

I guess I have to go watch some Al Pacino to work on my accent.

"You-sa gotta bigga da mout. Who you-a thinka you ah, da Pope!"

dnooman
03-26-2007, 09:40 PM
So I get home, check my GMail account, and there's a message that "Werewolf 2" is starting up. Do I want in? Sure! So I saunter over to the thread to claim my spot, and the thread is already on Page 2. I check my email; did it come in over the weekend and I missed it? No, the email was sent just 3 hours ago, and the thread has only been open since this morning.

It's really too bad that nobody is interested in this game.


Count me in.
What he said.

I replied to the email and I'm in.

My spreadsheet for this one is gonna be Huuuuge.

Queuing
03-26-2007, 09:42 PM
Yes, you are in. Sorry I missed you when I sent out the email. I think RT was keeping a list, but I wasn't. If I missed anyone else help me out and link to your sign up post please.

I have sent you an email regarding this. I don't know how to post single posts in a thread however in the observers thread I did ask to be in at post #120 and post #20 in this thread. Not sure if that makes the cut-off, but I didn't get an email, so I am checking :).

zuma
03-26-2007, 09:59 PM
If I missed anyone else help me out and link to your sign up post please.

I signed up (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8341439&postcount=170) a while back. I'd like to play.

Suburban Plankton
03-26-2007, 10:16 PM
What he said.

I replied to the email and I'm in.

My spreadsheet for this one is gonna be Huuuuge.
Great, now I'm gonna have spreadsheet envy.

Zeriel
03-26-2007, 10:35 PM
alright, if there's a game 3, I want in, dammit.

hocow
03-26-2007, 11:00 PM
Is it too late to sign up? I was at work... :(

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 11:02 PM
OK, so we are up to 35 players so far. No one has been sent confirmation emails yet, so don't freak if you didn't get one. I am going to assume that I am not going to get responces from more that a couple more of the people I emailed so I am going to go ahead and figure out how many of each role we should have.

Basically if you posted to this thread before I closed the posting. Or if you posted with a link to an early sign up, or if you got an email from me...you are in. (also Malacandra who doesn't technically fit that description, but is in.)

Otherwise you are probably out of luck.


On the upside, with a game this large we are probably going to need a few subs. I will try to keep a list of folks who didn't make it into the game. If we need a sub I will email these people and the first to respond will take over the role. That being said, I think too many subs can hurt the game and I am going to try to put in subs only when it is completly necessary. This game is going to go on for a while, make sure you actually want to commit to this.


Posted by Kat:
I will be out of town for about a week at the end of May and probably without Internet access during that time, does that rule me out?

Nope, you can still be in. The game will be able to compensate, and if you can't finish we can probably find you a sub. There doesn't seem to be a lack of interst.

Ok, off to work. I should have a post put together by morning with rules, details, a player list and a start time. I will send out confirmation emails with characters at the same time. I am going to try to use PM exclusivly, but we will see how that goes. BTW I am on PST, it is just about 9pm over here, so you can get an idea of the time cycle I am going to be opperating on.

Ok, see you all soon.

NAF1138
03-26-2007, 11:03 PM
Is it too late to sign up? I was at work... :(

I think I emailed you hocow, you want in you got it. You called a spot while the last game was going on.

Kat
03-26-2007, 11:13 PM
Great, now I'm gonna have spreadsheet envy.
Mine's gonna be bigger than dnooman's. ;)

JSexton
03-27-2007, 12:07 AM
I'd be happy to sub in for the inevitable dropouts. Consider me a pinch hitter. :)

dnooman
03-27-2007, 12:57 AM
Mine's gonna be bigger than dnooman's. ;)
I promise to not eat you this time.:)

Hopefully I can use my weak data entry skillz for good instead of evil this time.

One And Only Wanderers
03-27-2007, 01:47 AM
In.

and thanks for taking the trouble to run the game.

sturmhauke
03-27-2007, 02:05 AM
I cast Magic Missile!

Uh, I mean I'm in.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 02:35 AM
Ok this thing is huge at this point, so in the interest of getting things going I am going to list the possible roles, as well as the basic rules. All the players will get a PM with their role in the next couple of hours. You have you have 24 hours from that point to confirm.

The game will start at night, and the 48 hour clock will start ticking on the first night as soon as the roles are sent out. The first day will start with the announcement of the first nights kills.


Possible roles NOT all of which are being used.

Mafia-these are the bad guys. There may be as many as 10 of them. They can talk to each other, but only at night. During the day they pass themselves off as townies. They vote to kill one person a night, but may vote no kill.

Godfather- The head mafia member. In case of a tie in the night kill vote the Godfather decides. Godfather shows up as a regular townie if investigated, will survive being targeted for night kill by the Vigilante.

The Miller- The miller is a role blocker, they select a person each night to stop from using their role assignment. The Miller is pro town, but will show up as scum if investigated. There can be up to 2 millers

Cops - there are 2 kinds of cop, detective and beat cop. Detectives are always right when they investigate, beat cops are only right 50% of the time. Cops cannot talk outside of the game. There can be up to 3 cops.

Serial Killer - anti town AND anti mafia player, may kill each night, but does not have to. SK wins if they are still alive at endgame.

Vigilante - pro town player who selects one person to kill each night. The vigilante must kill every night in search of the serial killer.
If the vigilante kills the serial killer the Vigilante becomes an ordinary citizen and a confirmed townie. If the SK is lynched or Mob Killed, the Vigilante becomes a citizen but does not get public confirmation of town status.

Masons - Ordinary citizens, but they each know the identity of the others. They may not speak outside of the game. There may be up to 6 masons.

The Doctor - May chose one person each night to save from being night killed. If investigated they show up as the Doctor.

Guardian Angel- A one shot deal. May chose 2 people to protect on a single night, but can only use this ability once. If investigated shows up as an Ordinary Citizen.

Because this game is SO big, I figure it will be confusing to have anything more complicated. So if you don't see it on the list it isn't in the game.



Rules:

To vote you must post you vote in blue. You only get one vote per day, but you may unvote as many times as you like and revote. Its the last one that counts.

Please unvote before you revote.

Do not quote any PM's or emails from me.

Days will last 5 real time days, and nights will last 2. Day's can end early if there are 10 votes to lynch until we drop below 20 players. After that it is simple majority to lynch early. At the end of the 5th day the person with the most votes gets it.

NO LURKING. Each poster must post something at least 3 times each game day unless the day ends early. This is mostly going to be the honor system, but if you can't commit to 3 posts in 5 days you may want to back out. If you are going to be away for an extended period of time please post to the thread or email/pm me to let me know. If you need to drop out, let someone know and we will find a sub, no hard feelings.

Don't violate the character descriptions or go outside the spirit of the game.

If you have a night choice to make, make sure it is in by the deadline. If you don't I will chose for you and you might not like my choice.

No editing your posts. We used to live without the edit function, we can do it again for this game.

Once your death scene is written, you are dead. You get a goodbye post and that is it. Same as the last thread.

Most importantly remember, its a game. Have fun and don't take anything too seriously.

Roles going out soon.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 02:39 AM
Ok here is the player list. PM me to confirm and I will send you back your character. I am going to sleep now, so nothing will happen until 10 am my time. But feel free to start talking hanging out etc. The first night starts tomorrow at 12pm my time, the first day 48 hours after that. If I haven't heard from you by the end of the first night, I am going to assume you are no longer playing.

Rysto
Fretful Porpentine
MadTheSwine
chrisk
Smitty
Winston Smith
Flying Cow of Doom
Storyteller0910
CaerieD
pimaspinner
brewha
Queuing
cowgirl
Autolycus
Gadarene
Blade Master
Lakai
MonkeyMensch
Kivvik
Pygmy Rugger
ArizonaTeach
Pleonast
Enfant Terrible
nesta
Auguecheek
Malacandra
StarvingButStrong
Menocchio
Kat
Suburban Plankton
Dnooman
Fern Forest
Menocchio
Zuma
hocow
Sturmhauke
One and Only Wanderers

One And Only Wanderers
03-27-2007, 03:04 AM
Question - are the cop roles aware of which type of cop they are?

Malacandra
03-27-2007, 03:19 AM
*pulls up lawn chair and sits by mailbox*

Fern Forest
03-27-2007, 03:20 AM
Looks like we're on L.A. time. Most of most posts will come between 4:30pm and midnight Hawaii Standard Time.

Here's hoping I live to see the sunrise again.

Fern Forest
03-27-2007, 03:22 AM
*rackin' frackin'*

Ok, no edits. I meant to say "most of my posts."

Captain Carrot
03-27-2007, 06:15 AM
Um, did you forget my name on that list?

glee
03-27-2007, 06:26 AM
I say!

I asked to join in the previous thread, wake up late on holiday today and ZOOM! the roster is full. :eek:

Can I join?
I'll be a sub if necessary (good team spirit :) ).

chrisk
03-27-2007, 07:01 AM
Hmm... if a superstitious person stocks up on wolfsbane and silver bullets because they're worried about werewolf attacks, what about if they're worried of mafioso attacks??

Embarassing photos of the godfather, with arrangements to published in the event of one's death??

One And Only Wanderers
03-27-2007, 07:11 AM
Hmm... if a superstitious person stocks up on wolfsbane and silver bullets because they're worried about werewolf attacks, what about if they're worried of mafioso attacks??

Embarassing photos of the godfather, with arrangements to published in the event of one's death??

regular bullets? ;) Just don't get your wires crossed and load up on garlic, that actually attracts them!

brewha
03-27-2007, 07:32 AM
What happened to my PMing? I thought there was just a 'PM' button next to the 'reply' button. How do I PM?

Kat
03-27-2007, 07:38 AM
Click on NAF1138's name and you'll get a dropdown menu that includes "Send a private message".

zuma
03-27-2007, 07:39 AM
What happened to my PMing? I thought there was just a 'PM' button next to the 'reply' button. How do I PM?

Look in the upper right hand side of your screen, below the straightdope banner.

zuma
03-27-2007, 07:42 AM
Also, can someone clarify whether or not everyone got their roles yet? NAF said that he'd be sending them out in a couple hours, then in his next post said that you had to confirm first, then he'd send them.

I haven't got mine.

One And Only Wanderers
03-27-2007, 07:46 AM
heard nothing yet. What time zone is LA in? what time is it there now?

Queuing
03-27-2007, 07:52 AM
He has not sent out roles yet. He said he would do so at 10am his time. It is only 6am his time currently.

Might I suggest that a new thread is started so we don't have to go through this 2 pages later on in the game?

Smitty
03-27-2007, 07:54 AM
Wow. 37 people. Keeping track of who said and did what is going to be something!

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 07:58 AM
I'd also suggest that unvoting be put in red to reduce confusion. I also have not received my role assignment.

--FCOD

Malacandra
03-27-2007, 08:02 AM
Wow. 37 people. Keeping track of who said and did what is going to be something!

Don't worry. What between the Mafia, the serial killer and the vigilante, the ranks are likely to thin out quickly. :p

storyteller0910
03-27-2007, 08:17 AM
Wow... so 37 participants and nine potential roles, but some of the roles might not be in the game at all, so... commence being paranoid.

One And Only Wanderers
03-27-2007, 08:23 AM
another question, will there be different death scenes for people killed by mafia/Sk/vigilante, or are we just kept guessing as to who got who?

brewha
03-27-2007, 08:25 AM
Click on NAF1138's name and you'll get a dropdown menu that includes "Send a private message".


ah HA!
It must be a different site that just has the button.

chrisk
03-27-2007, 08:49 AM
ah HA!
It must be a different site that just has the button.

I think that all phpBB sites with private messaging use that sort of arrangement, actually. Maybe other forum providers too.

StarvingButStrong
03-27-2007, 09:30 AM
Don't worry. What between the Mafia, the serial killer and the vigilante, the ranks are likely to thin out quickly. :p

So, we should expect two or three deaths each night, depending on whether the Mafia is off at a Family wedding or something?

Plus one killed every day by popular vote?

Just to be clear, the basic goal is the same as the other game, yes?

As in, the Mafia wins if they get numberical superiority?
The townsfolk win by killing all the Mafia?

The Serial Killer loses by dying, otherwise wins? Regardless of the Mafia/townsfolk outcome?





Hmmm. Can we pay protection money to keep on the Mafia's good side? How about bribes to the cops, in case the citizenry seems to be looking askance at us? :cool:

Malacandra
03-27-2007, 09:36 AM
Can we pay protection money to keep on the Mafia's good side?

Protection money? You are talking about a criminal activity. What you pay to the Family is insurance, my friend. Insurance. I hope we are clear on this.

...Oh halp, now I'm typecasting myself as mafia and the rôles haven't even been assigned yet.

ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
03-27-2007, 09:45 AM
All dead bodies are welcome at the IMHO "Backseat Hitmen" thread. All lines open. No waiting.

nesta
03-27-2007, 10:04 AM
...Oh halp, now I'm typecasting myself as mafia and the rôles haven't even been assigned yet.
Small type is a wolf tell. Vote Malacandra!

Just warming up my paranoia...

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 10:06 AM
Question - are the cop roles aware of which type of cop they are?


Yes, but they will not know who the other cops are, or what other types of cop are out there.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 10:07 AM
Um, did you forget my name on that list?

Shoot, yes I did. Sorry about that.

Malacandra
03-27-2007, 10:08 AM
Small type is a wolf tell. Vote Malacandra!

Just warming up my paranoia...

An obvious gaffe - there are no wolves in this game! Vote nesta!

(Paranoia? Let's not even go there - the body count in that game makes Werewolf look like a vicarage tea party.)

(sees naf1138 online and starts fidgeting)

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 10:11 AM
I am getting to everyones roles, as fast as I can, but it will still be 2-3 hours. If you all want to I can open up a new thread and link to it in here for the actual game. We can call this a sign up thread.

hocow
03-27-2007, 10:12 AM
I think I emailed you hocow, you want in you got it. You called a spot while the last game was going on.


Ok! I got the email! Thanks!

Suburban Plankton
03-27-2007, 10:19 AM
All dead bodies are welcome at the IMHO "Backseat Hitmen" thread. All lines open. No waiting.
A side note to those people who are currently signed up as "alternates"; it would be best to avoid the Forbidden ThreadTM, just in case your number is called. Otherwise, you might be privy to inside information, especially after a few of the scum wind up there and start spilling their guts.

chrisk
03-27-2007, 10:20 AM
I am getting to everyones roles, as fast as I can, but it will still be 2-3 hours. If you all want to I can open up a new thread and link to it in here for the actual game. We can call this a sign up thread.

I don't see a problem with continuing on this thread... until we get it up to 30 pages or so. That might be a good time to create an overflow-er.

fluiddruid
03-27-2007, 10:21 AM
If there are any roles left or anyone drops out, please let me know. Email's in the profile.

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 10:21 AM
I agree that you should start a new thread for the actual game. I think you should wait until the game begins to create it.

--FCOD

fruitbat
03-27-2007, 10:49 AM
I am happy to fill in as an alternate. Just let me know.

chrisk
03-27-2007, 11:04 AM
Point of protocol... given that this is a mafia variant, what are the appropriate terms for the regular good'uns without other special roles? I saw both 'citizen' and 'townie' mentioned in the roles spiel, are both of these valid? Myself, I feel like I'd rather avoid 'townie' because it reminds me too much of that werewolf medieval feel, but I'm a newbie so I'm not sure what the conventions are.

Aguecheek
03-27-2007, 11:11 AM
Civilian?

Winston Smith
03-27-2007, 11:12 AM
I got over-enthusiastic and posted in the forbidden thread. I don't know what I was thinking. :( FWIW, I was the first respondent, so there wasn't any actual discussion of this game, and at the time I made the post, our game hadn't actually started yet (and still hasn't). Anyways, consider this my disclosure.

Oops.

brewha
03-27-2007, 11:14 AM
That sounds like Mafia talk to me.

FOS Winston Smith





whadda mean we haven't started yet?

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 11:17 AM
Civilian?

I am going to officially call the vanilla players Citizens, but use whatever language you like.

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 11:20 AM
Careful Winston, the game hasn't started yet...don't go claim any roles just because brewha FOSed you...

--FCOD

Winston Smith
03-27-2007, 11:31 AM
Careful Winston, the game hasn't started yet...don't go claim any roles just because brewha FOSed you...

--FCOD

: snort :

My reputation preceeds me. I'd just like to point out that I received honorable mention in that game for being "Crowd Pleaser".

:D

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 11:37 AM
It was certainly entertaining when I was watching!

--FCOD

Fern Forest
03-27-2007, 11:39 AM
Ah, the game is afoot. So we're getting a new thread?

A friendly reminder, NAF1138 asked us not to edit our posts. Which means preview is our friend.

chrisk
03-27-2007, 11:41 AM
Ah, the game is afoot. So we're getting a new thread?


I don't think the game is afoot yet. Maybe it's an ankle??

Malacandra
03-27-2007, 11:42 AM
I don't think the game is afoot yet. Maybe it's an ankle??

Well I aim to be a leg-end in my own lifetime. :p

One And Only Wanderers
03-27-2007, 11:44 AM
as I understand it we are starting in night, so even when we kick off we can't talk till all night action decisions are received. For up to 3 of us, our first post in the game actual will be of the Bah go town variety!

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 11:54 AM
So, if there is a Serial Killer and a Vigilante in the game, we'll know they exist as soon as they kill someone. I also have a question about the Miller: Will you tell the town when the Miller successfully blocks someone?

--FCOD

Menocchio
03-27-2007, 12:20 PM
OAOW asked this earlier, but I didn't see an answer:
Will our CSI be able to tell the Mafia hits apart from vigilante justice and serial killings?

And what happens if the Miller attempts to block himself?

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 12:21 PM
And what happens if the Miller attempts to block himself?That's easy...the Universe explodes.

--FCOD

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 12:29 PM
OAOW asked this earlier, but I didn't see an answer:
Will our CSI be able to tell the Mafia hits apart from vigilante justice and serial killings?

And what happens if the Miller attempts to block himself?

You won't know if a role block is used, or which faction is doing the killing of which player. Some of the kill people don't have to use their powers every night either. So you know.

Night starts in 1 hour 30 minutes, get your confirms in. If you tried to PM me but haven't gotten a role yet, I din't get the PM.

Malacandra
03-27-2007, 12:32 PM
as I understand it we are starting in night, so even when we kick off we can't talk till all night action decisions are received. For up to 3 of us, our first post in the game actual will be of the Bah go town variety!

First one back in the clubhouse sets 'em up! :cool:

glee
03-27-2007, 12:36 PM
I have good news and bad news.

I am signed up in the game! :cool: :D (true)

Apparently I am a werewolf? :confused: :smack: (lie)

glee
03-27-2007, 12:41 PM
I got the idea from mafiascum.com where this seems to be the standard MO for big games. So go check out a few of those games if you want to get a better idea of how this should work out.

mafiascum.com gives me the message 'domain disabled'. :confused:

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 12:45 PM
I am signed up in the game! :cool: :D (true)Did you get a PM from NAF? 'Cause you're not on his original list of players...

Also, try mafiascum.net (http://www.mafiascum.net)

NAF, is the player list you initially posted still accurate? If not, could you post a current one?

Thanks!

--FCOD

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 12:51 PM
Did you get a PM from NAF? 'Cause you're not on his original list of players...

Also, try mafiascum.net (http://www.mafiascum.net)

NAF, is the player list you initially posted still accurate? If not, could you post a current one?

Thanks!

--FCOD


Sure thing. Glee is in fact in but that's it, no one else. The final player list is...(alphabetically)


Aguecheek
ArizonaTeach
Autolycus
Blade Master
brewha
CaerieD
Captain Carrot
chrisk
cowgirl
Dnooman
Enfant Terrible
Fern Forest
Flying Cow of Doom
Fretful Porpentine
Gadarene
glee
hocow
Kat
Kivvik
Lakai
MadTheSwine
Malacandra
Menocchio
Menocchio
MonkeyMensch
nesta
One and Only Wanderers
pimaspinner
Pleonast
Pygmy Rugger
Queuing
Rysto
Smitty
StarvingButStrong
Storyteller0910
Sturmhauke
Suburban Plankton
Winston Smith
Zuma

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 12:53 PM
I still need confirms from:

Autolycus
Blade Master
CaerieD
Captain Carrot
Dnooman
Enfant Terrible
Fretful Porpentine
hocow
Lakai
Menocchio
MonkeyMensch
Pleonast
Pygmy Rugger
Queuing
Rysto
Sturmhauke
Suburban Plankton

glee
03-27-2007, 12:55 PM
Did you get a PM from NAF? 'Cause you're not on his original list of players...

Also, try mafiascum.net (http://www.mafiascum.net)

NAF, is the player list you initially posted still accurate? If not, could you post a current one?

Thanks!

--FCOD

Yes, I got a PM from NAF. :) (If you look back at the Werewolf thread, I did ask Revenant to reserve me a spot.)

Your link works - thank you!

Blaster Master
03-27-2007, 12:55 PM
Sure thing. Glee is in fact in but that's it, no one else. The final player list is...(alphabetically)

...
Blade Master
...


I did not get a role assignment; it looks like you have my name spelled incorrectly on your player list.

glee
03-27-2007, 12:56 PM
Sure thing. Glee is in fact in but that's it, no one else.

This has quite made my day. :D

CaerieD
03-27-2007, 12:59 PM
Ack. I just discovered I didn't have PMs turned on when I went to check in. Well, that's fixed now.

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 01:00 PM
Am I correct in assuming that there is (if they're in the game at all) only one Doctor, Guardian Angel, Serial Killer, and Vigilante? You gave maximum counts for the other roles, so I assume you mean there is only one of these.

--FCOD

Menocchio
03-27-2007, 01:00 PM
I've confirmed and gotten a role, but you had me listed twice. Does that mean I'm living a double life?

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 01:12 PM
I've confirmed and gotten a role, but you had me listed twice. Does that mean I'm living a double life?


GAH!

Sorry, so many people to keep track of. I will fix this.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 01:13 PM
Ok, let's try this player list thing again.


Aguecheek
ArizonaTeach
Autolycus
Blaster Master
brewha
CaerieD
Captain Carrot
chrisk
cowgirl
Dnooman
Enfant Terrible
Fern Forest
Flying Cow of Doom
Fretful Porpentine
Gadarene
glee
hocow
Kat
Kivvik
Lakai
MadTheSwine
Malacandra
Menocchio
MonkeyMensch
nesta
One and Only Wanderers
pimaspinner
Pleonast
Pygmy Rugger
Queuing
Rysto
Smitty
StarvingButStrong
Storyteller0910
Sturmhauke
Suburban Plankton
Winston Smith
Zuma

MadTheSwine
03-27-2007, 01:21 PM
RT Isn't playing?

Suburban Plankton
03-27-2007, 01:23 PM
I have received no PM and no email from NAF1138 asking to confirm this morning. I have sent him a PM, and am posting her to let everyoing know that I'm still in.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 01:40 PM
RT Isn't playing?


No, he emailed me to say he thinks he will be too busy and will catch the next game.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 01:43 PM
Still need to here from:

Autolycus
hocow
Enfant Terrible
Fretful Porpentine
Dnooman
Lakai
Captain Carrot
MonkeyMensch

Get those confirm PMs into me or you won't get a role.

dnooman
03-27-2007, 01:53 PM
I didn't get a PM, I'm pretty sure I have them turned on.

Can someone please send me a test PM to make sure it's working?

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-27-2007, 01:56 PM
I didn't get a PM, I'm pretty sure I have them turned on.

Can someone please send me a test PM to make sure it's working?
Done!

--FCOD

Queuing
03-27-2007, 01:57 PM
I didn't get a PM, I'm pretty sure I have them turned on.

Can someone please send me a test PM to make sure it's working?
err, done as well, just a little slower I guess!

Rysto
03-27-2007, 01:57 PM
I didn't get a PM, I'm pretty sure I have them turned on.

Can someone please send me a test PM to make sure it's working?
You have to PM NAF1138 first, and then he's send you your role.

dnooman
03-27-2007, 02:02 PM
You have to PM NAF1138 first, and then he's send you your role.
:smack:

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 02:05 PM
And the game clock starts.

48 hours from now the first night will be over.

Night folks, get your choices in.

If you haven't PM'd me yet please do so or I will replace you at the end of the 48 hours.

cowgirl
03-27-2007, 02:07 PM
Should I bookmark this thread or are we starting a new one for the game?

storyteller0910
03-27-2007, 02:09 PM
So are we moving to a new thread or is this the one we should be using?

MadTheSwine
03-27-2007, 02:14 PM
Hey Winston...lets go get a beer!

Winston Smith
03-27-2007, 02:15 PM
Hey Winston...lets go get a beer!

First rounds on me, mate.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 02:22 PM
Let's stick with this one so we can avoid the wrath of the Mods. Just everyone note that the game started on page 4.

Hockey Monkey
03-27-2007, 02:25 PM
Which way to the bar?

Queuing
03-27-2007, 02:27 PM
Rules Recap - for ease as the game is starting on this page

Ok this thing is huge at this point, so in the interest of getting things going I am going to list the possible roles, as well as the basic rules. All the players will get a PM with their role in the next couple of hours. You have you have 24 hours from that point to confirm.

The game will start at night, and the 48 hour clock will start ticking on the first night as soon as the roles are sent out. The first day will start with the announcement of the first nights kills.


Possible roles NOT all of which are being used.

Mafia-these are the bad guys. There may be as many as 10 of them. They can talk to each other, but only at night. During the day they pass themselves off as townies. They vote to kill one person a night, but may vote no kill.

Godfather- The head mafia member. In case of a tie in the night kill vote the Godfather decides. Godfather shows up as a regular townie if investigated, will survive being targeted for night kill by the Vigilante.

The Miller- The miller is a role blocker, they select a person each night to stop from using their role assignment. The Miller is pro town, but will show up as scum if investigated. There can be up to 2 millers

Cops - there are 2 kinds of cop, detective and beat cop. Detectives are always right when they investigate, beat cops are only right 50% of the time. Cops cannot talk outside of the game. There can be up to 3 cops.

Serial Killer - anti town AND anti mafia player, may kill each night, but does not have to. SK wins if they are still alive at endgame.

Vigilante - pro town player who selects one person to kill each night. The vigilante must kill every night in search of the serial killer.
If the vigilante kills the serial killer the Vigilante becomes an ordinary citizen and a confirmed townie. If the SK is lynched or Mob Killed, the Vigilante becomes a citizen but does not get public confirmation of town status.

Masons - Ordinary citizens, but they each know the identity of the others. They may not speak outside of the game. There may be up to 6 masons.

The Doctor - May chose one person each night to save from being night killed. If investigated they show up as the Doctor.

Guardian Angel- A one shot deal. May chose 2 people to protect on a single night, but can only use this ability once. If investigated shows up as an Ordinary Citizen.

Because this game is SO big, I figure it will be confusing to have anything more complicated. So if you don't see it on the list it isn't in the game.



Rules:

To vote you must post you vote in blue. You only get one vote per day, but you may unvote as many times as you like and revote. Its the last one that counts.

Please unvote before you revote.

Do not quote any PM's or emails from me.

Days will last 5 real time days, and nights will last 2. Day's can end early if there are 10 votes to lynch until we drop below 20 players. After that it is simple majority to lynch early. At the end of the 5th day the person with the most votes gets it.

NO LURKING. Each poster must post something at least 3 times each game day unless the day ends early. This is mostly going to be the honor system, but if you can't commit to 3 posts in 5 days you may want to back out. If you are going to be away for an extended period of time please post to the thread or email/pm me to let me know. If you need to drop out, let someone know and we will find a sub, no hard feelings.

Don't violate the character descriptions or go outside the spirit of the game.

If you have a night choice to make, make sure it is in by the deadline. If you don't I will chose for you and you might not like my choice.

No editing your posts. We used to live without the edit function, we can do it again for this game.

Once your death scene is written, you are dead. You get a goodbye post and that is it. Same as the last thread.

Most importantly remember, its a game. Have fun and don't take anything too seriously.

Pleonast
03-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Hmm, MadTheSwine, Winston Smith, and pimaspinner are all posting at night. A good Citizen would never be up this late.



Wait, I just posted at night, too? :smack:

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 02:38 PM
All the players will get a PM with their role in the next couple of hours. You have you have 24 hours from that point to confirm.




This bit is no longer accurate. You must PM me to get a role.

Hockey Monkey
03-27-2007, 02:39 PM
I happen to be an insomniac! While I'm awake, I figured I'd keep an eye out for nefarious activity. At the bar of course.

sturmhauke
03-27-2007, 02:49 PM
The Google ad is telling me I should turn away from this idle diversion and Choose Jesus. Is that like Choosing Pikachu?

MadTheSwine
03-27-2007, 02:58 PM
Hmm, MadTheSwine, Winston Smith, and pimaspinner are all posting at night. A good Citizen would never be up this late.



Wait, I just posted at night, too? :smack:


I work second shift...down at the docks.

MonkeyMensch
03-27-2007, 03:47 PM
Yo Spider! Get me a drink you stuttering fu...

Late but fashionable, I hope. PMed you NAF and am champing at the bit to see sunrise.

::Trembles::

Blaster Master
03-27-2007, 04:07 PM
Just a few clarifications on the rules, since there are a lot of new roles:

For the millers, I'm unclear if they HAVE to block someone, because the only blocks that might be helpful would be if they block the vigilante or the serial killer; if those roles don't exist, or they're are dead, it seems like if they block a doctor or GA or cop, even though he's town friendly, he's actually detrimental to the cause. If he targets the godfather, and then the godfather is either targetted by the vigilante or a detective, is the godfather killed/revealed? If there are two millers, if one targets the other, can the other not block anyone else?

Since there are potentially three deaths in a given night (one killed by mafia, one by SK, and one by vigilante), what happens if one of those is targetted by one of the other ones? Say the mafia targets the serial killer, does the serial killer's hit still go off? What if by some miracle the serial killer and the vigilante target each other, do they cancel out, do they both die, or does one trump the other based on some criterion?

For the cops, do they know if they're a detective or a beat cop, or is it that they are a cop, but they don't know which type they are. If they're investigating a type that shows up as the opposite (the godfather and the miller) and they're a beat cop, I'm guessing they still have a chance to show up as what they actually are? Also, some of the jobs you didn't mention what they show up as, for instance, would the serial killer show up as townie, scum, or as the specific role? If other cops are investigated, do they show up as townie, cop, or the specific type of cop?

hocow
03-27-2007, 04:21 PM
pimaspinner, I think you and I will get along just fine. At the bar.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 04:29 PM
Since there are potentially three deaths in a given night (one killed by mafia, one by SK, and one by vigilante), what happens if one of those is targeted by one of the other ones? Say the mafia targets the serial killer, does the serial killer's hit still go off? What if by some miracle the serial killer and the vigilante target each other, do they cancel out, do they both die, or does one trump the other based on some criterion?
Even if you are killed, your choice still goes though. Vig and SK target each other, they both die.

For the cops, do they know if they're a detective or a beat cop, or is it that they are a cop, but they don't know which type they are.?
They know what type of cop they are.

If they're investigating a type that shows up as the opposite (the godfather and the miller) and they're a beat cop, I'm guessing they still have a chance to show up as what they actually are?
I suppose it is possible. If they are going to get a wrong answer I am going to pick what role they see the player as at random, so I guess they could show up as what they really are.

Also, some of the jobs you didn't mention what they show up as, for instance, would the serial killer show up as townie, scum, or as the specific role? If other cops are investigated, do they show up as townie, cop, or the specific type of cop?
If I didn't specify, then the player shows up as what they are if investigated by a cop who is getting the correct answers.

Clear as mud? Good.

Feel free to keep asking questions if things are confusing.

Blaster Master
03-27-2007, 04:43 PM
Clear as mud? Good.

Feel free to keep asking questions if things are confusing.
Thanks, I got it. What about my questions about the millers? Are they required to block, or is it optional? If one miller blocks another, can the other one not block? If they block the godfather, can he then be targetted by the sk or vig or correctly identified by a cop?

That's it for questions, I swear!

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 04:54 PM
Thanks, I got it. What about my questions about the millers? Are they required to block, or is it optional? If one miller blocks another, can the other one not block? If they block the godfather, can he then be targetted by the sk or vig or correctly identified by a cop?

That's it for questions, I swear!
Whoops, I new I had forgotten part of your post. I actually wrote this up as part of my original response, but I missed it when I copy and pasted out of word. (for the spell checking.)


For the millers, I'm unclear if they HAVE to block someone, because the only blocks that might be helpful would be if they block the vigilante or the serial killer; if those roles don't exist, or they're are dead, it seems like if they block a doctor or GA or cop, even though he's town friendly, he's actually detrimental to the cause. If he targets the godfather, and then the godfather is either targetted by the vigilante or a detective, is the godfather killed/revealed? If there are two millers, if one targets the other, can the other not block anyone else?
They can use their power or not as they see fit. The way it works is the Miller will submit a player name to me, if that person is a power player there power won't work that night. If the person is an ordinary Citizen then there will be no noticeable result. If a mafia member is targeted there is a 1/x chance (x being the number of living mafia members) that it will work. So if he targets the Godfather, and the Godfather is targeted by the Vigilante, the Godfather will still die.

Blaster Master
03-27-2007, 05:01 PM
Whoops, I new I had forgotten part of your post. I actually wrote this up as part of my original response, but I missed it when I copy and pasted out of word. (for the spell checking.)
Thanks, I'd figured as much; I got it.

glee
03-27-2007, 05:05 PM
Rules Recap - for ease as the game is starting on this page

Mafia-these are the bad guys. There may be as many as 10 of them. They can talk to each other, but only at night. During the day they pass themselves off as townies. They vote to kill one person a night, but may vote no kill.

Godfather- The head mafia member. In case of a tie in the night kill vote the Godfather decides. Godfather shows up as a regular townie if investigated, will survive being targeted for night kill by the Vigilante.

The Miller- The miller is a role blocker, they select a person each night to stop from using their role assignment. The Miller is pro town, but will show up as scum if investigated. There can be up to 2 millers

Cops - there are 2 kinds of cop, detective and beat cop. Detectives are always right when they investigate, beat cops are only right 50% of the time. Cops cannot talk outside of the game. There can be up to 3 cops.

Serial Killer - anti town AND anti mafia player, may kill each night, but does not have to. SK wins if they are still alive at endgame.

Vigilante - pro town player who selects one person to kill each night. The vigilante must kill every night in search of the serial killer.
If the vigilante kills the serial killer the Vigilante becomes an ordinary citizen and a confirmed townie. If the SK is lynched or Mob Killed, the Vigilante becomes a citizen but does not get public confirmation of town status.

Masons - Ordinary citizens, but they each know the identity of the others. They may not speak outside of the game. There may be up to 6 masons.

The Doctor - May chose one person each night to save from being night killed. If investigated they show up as the Doctor.

Guardian Angel- A one shot deal. May chose 2 people to protect on a single night, but can only use this ability once. If investigated shows up as an Ordinary Citizen.



I'd like clarification on what the Serial Killer and the Vigilante (before the Serial Killer is dead) show up as, please.

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 05:15 PM
I know this was a bit burried and possibly unclear so...


If I didn't specify, then the player shows up as what they are if investigated by a cop who is getting the correct answers.



Vig and SK will be seen as Vig and SK

Blaster Master
03-27-2007, 05:16 PM
I'd like clarification on what the Serial Killer and the Vigilante (before the Serial Killer is dead) show up as, please.
According to the end of post 164, it looks like the vig will show up as the vig and the SK will show up as the SK.
If I didn't specify [what the player shows up as], then the player shows up as what they are if investigated by a cop who is getting the correct answers.

Kat
03-27-2007, 07:12 PM
Is there room at the bar for another person? Heck, is the bar even still open this late?

NAF1138
03-27-2007, 07:32 PM
Ok one more call to have anyone who hasn't heard from me with their role PM me.

Not all of you have your PM turned on it seems, so I can't send you a PM. I need to know if you are playing or if I have so put in some subs.

Captain Carrot
03-27-2007, 07:49 PM
Vig and SK will be seen as Vig and SKIt'd be funnier the other way around. :D

hocow
03-27-2007, 07:57 PM
*orders a drink for Kat*

Don't be silly, the bar's open all night in this town.

Kat
03-27-2007, 08:26 PM
Thanks, hocow. Next round's on me.

storyteller0910
03-27-2007, 09:07 PM
You know, this must be how it feels to be on SURVIVOR, when they're all in the boat and looking around at each other and waiting for The Probst to call "game on."

Pass the whiskey.

Fern Forest
03-27-2007, 09:27 PM
Darkness √
Fog √
Fog Horn *beeeoooooooo*
Pub √
Stumbling drunks √√

You know, this is the kinda place a guy could get a souvenir back knife if he weren't the careful type. I think I'll stick with sasparilla.

The Understander
03-27-2007, 09:33 PM
Hope it's not too late... I hate it when RL interferes with my gamings!

Bartender, Don Julio, right here... and keep 'em coming. If I can still remember my name, pour me another.

Lakai
03-27-2007, 10:03 PM
*Sits in the corner and stares at everyone drinking at the bar*

Captain Carrot
03-27-2007, 10:05 PM
√...√...√...√√
Is it just me, or do these look like square root signs?

Fern Forest
03-27-2007, 10:08 PM
Is it just me, or do these look like square root signs?
And well they should for that is what they are. Closest I could find to an actual check mark.

dnooman
03-27-2007, 10:21 PM
Man, I have this awful feeling that I'll be one of the first dead bodies. Not looking forward to that.

"I go to the bar, I ring my coat, I call the bartender
Said "Look man, come down here", he got down there.
So what you want?

One bourbon, one scotch, one beer."

Fern Forest
03-27-2007, 11:06 PM
You keep drinking like that and you may be. Plus I heard you like to drink alone.


Well if you guys will excuse me I think I'll go next door and set up shop as the town locksmith. Something tells me it might be a lucrative career move.

Hockey Monkey
03-27-2007, 11:10 PM
pimaspinner, I think you and I will get along just fine. At the bar.

Indeed! Unless you are scum. :dubious:

For now, have another on me. :D

Looks like the bar is filling up. Hopefully there is safety in numbers. I'll be over there :::points to the corner booth::: quietly waiting for the dawn. Cheers!

Hockey Monkey
03-27-2007, 11:12 PM
:smack: Preview!

Malacandra
03-28-2007, 01:43 AM
:smack: Preview!

Yes, it's just like the good old pre-edit days here, isn't it? :p

I'll take a sapar sarspral lemonade for now.

Autolycus
03-28-2007, 01:50 AM
Hey barkeep, one Blue Lagoon and make it snappy. I likes my drinks likes i likes my smurfs, small and blue. You got a problem with it, you can talk to Knuckles capiche?

Santo Rugger
03-28-2007, 02:18 AM
I'll have a Blue Lagoon, minus the Blue. And put Auto's on my tab. But only if he slams it. While you're at it, we'll take four, two for the both of us.

sturmhauke
03-28-2007, 02:21 AM
Gimme a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster.

Autolycus
03-28-2007, 02:29 AM
I'll have a Blue Lagoon, minus the Blue. And put Auto's on my tab. But only if he slams it. While you're at it, we'll take four, two for the both of us.

You got a problem with the color blue, twerp? :: slams drink :: Neither do I. Cheers, short stuff.

dnooman
03-28-2007, 02:36 AM
Gimme a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster.
Can I have one too? With a twist please?

Santo Rugger
03-28-2007, 02:36 AM
You got a problem with the color blue, twerp? :: slams drink :: Neither do I. Cheers, short stuff.

No, I just don't like girly drinks. Blue's awesome, I'll let you buy the next 4, and we'll slam those, too. ::slams both of mine::

Autolycus
03-28-2007, 02:48 AM
No, I just don't like girly drinks. Blue's awesome, I'll let you buy the next 4, and we'll slam those, too. ::slams both of mine::

You callin my drink girly, and, by extension *hic*, me? You're lucky I'm in a good mood kid, or I'd show you a fist or three!

Baaaartendah, 4 more of whateva we just had!

chrisk
03-28-2007, 04:37 AM
Hey, guys! Just got off work at the bank. (orders a rum on the rocks.) So what's up?

Geez, a whole bunch of worried looking faces. And this neighborhood used to seem so safe - but I guess that was before 'they' moved in.

dnooman, sturm, what's that you're having? Looks like it packs a punch.

Captain Carrot
03-28-2007, 06:06 AM
I'll take three cases of Dominion root beer, barkeep. Looks like it's cheaper here than at home, although that isn't hard.

brewha
03-28-2007, 06:54 AM
Sorry I'm late guys. Looks like I got some catching up to do.
Get me 3 shots of Jager and a Scotch on the rocks.

hocow
03-28-2007, 07:35 AM
How about some Jager Bombs?

The Understander
03-28-2007, 08:14 AM
How about some Jager Bombs?

But doesn't that involve the intentional consumption of Red Bull? :eek:

You are far, far braver than I.

brewha
03-28-2007, 08:18 AM
How about some Jager Bombs?

Barkeep! A round of Jager bombs for me and hocow!
Get Auto another blue lagoon while you're at it (who am I to judge?).

The Understander
03-28-2007, 08:40 AM
Barkeep! A round of Jager bombs for me and hocow!
Get Auto another blue lagoon while you're at it (who am I to judge?).

[tinfoil hat]
You're all nuts! Know you not that the drink called 'Red Bull' is really a secret government experiment the likes of we have not seen since OK Soda? It is comprised of arsenic, old lace, sweat from an enchanted athletic supporter, and worst of all... TAURINE!
[/th]

This suspense is awful. I'm too young to die! Says so right in my username! It's Enfant Terrible, not Vieil Homme Terrible!


*whimpering with a bottle of Everclear in the corner*

Suburban Plankton
03-28-2007, 08:59 AM
Hey folks, sorry I'm late. The bar looks pretty full; I'll just grab a seat at the corner table over here. No, that's all right, I can see everyone just fine from her, thanks.

Can I get a beer, and an order of fettucine with pancetta and raisins? Thanks.

chrisk
03-28-2007, 09:00 AM
This suspense is awful.

"Stress and nervous tension are now serious social problems..."

:D

I don't suppose that in order that this situation should not in any way be exacerbated, somebody will reveal a few useful facts in advance??

::crickets chirp::

I didn't think so.

Menocchio
03-28-2007, 09:03 AM
"This is the worse part, the calm before the storm."

"So then, the actual killings won't be that bad?"

"Oh, I forgot about the killings."

Barkeep! Whiskey on the rocks and hold the rocks.

chrisk
03-28-2007, 09:06 AM
Can I get a beer, and an order of fettucine with pancetta and raisins?

Oooh, we can order pasta here? :)


I'll have a spaghetti and meat sauce, with maybe just a sprinkling of cheddar cheese on the top if you've got any... no cheddar in stock? Okay, then hold the mozzarella thanks.

*looks around* What? ;)

Aguecheek
03-28-2007, 09:30 AM
Hm. Any more chairs that don't have their backs to the door? Bugger. Fine, I'll stand at the bar then, in that cool way cowboys do it, facing the door.

Beer, thankee.

Malacandra
03-28-2007, 09:31 AM
Some people are FOS-baiting here, I'm thinking.

It's nothing personal, they tell me, just business. Here I am with a store to run and they start talking about insurance. They say what a nice place I have and how they hope nothing happens to it, or to my wife and children. All I need is to show a little respect, that's what they say.

:(

A whisky sour please, barkeep.

Gadarene
03-28-2007, 09:34 AM
A whiskey sweet please, barkeep. Gentleman Jack in a glass rimmed with brown sugar, and keep it coming.

Aguecheek
03-28-2007, 09:42 AM
Holy crap, that was my 1,000th post. Took freaking long enough!

Winston Smith
03-28-2007, 09:46 AM
Barkeep, a Port, please. And, uh, something to prop up my friend here.

chrisk
03-28-2007, 09:48 AM
Holy crap, that was my 1,000th post. Took freaking long enough!

Is mentioning your post count a mafia tell?

:p

Malacandra
03-28-2007, 09:49 AM
And moments later Gadarene hit 4000 posts!

I'd've thought his posts were legion... ;)

MonkeyMensch
03-28-2007, 09:53 AM
::Plops down heavily next to Winston::

Heh buddy, lem' tell ya 'bout my troublesh. Ish real innereshting...

Gadarene
03-28-2007, 10:00 AM
I'd've thought his posts were legion...

That's a hell of a bad pun. My brother made a bad pun like that once.

Once.

It was funny, and we all laughed! :p

One And Only Wanderers
03-28-2007, 10:00 AM
all these night time "drinking" posts are going to make the thread harder and harder to pick the meat out of the bones......

NAF1138
03-28-2007, 10:06 AM
I am thinking we can end this first night early. I am only waiting on one more person to check in (and hoping that my posting here will get that person to do so) and then we can get the night rolling to a close.

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-28-2007, 10:07 AM
I'll take a Jack and Coke, please.

When does night end? NAF, I think you should end night as soon as the Mafia votes, like last time. It will make the game move along a little faster.

--FCOD

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-28-2007, 10:09 AM
OK, since we're not supposed to edit I won't...but obviously I didn't check the latest posts before I sent my last one...

--FCOD

chrisk
03-28-2007, 10:11 AM
all these night time "drinking" posts are going to make the thread harder and harder to pick the meat out of the bones......

So, are you telling us all to pipe down and wait to die??

Erm - I mean, wait for the sun to rise?


Personally, I think this is a good way of playing 'get to know you' before the overt strategy and voting come in. I didn't know Gadarene from Adam, before we ended up here in Mafia, for instance... but now I'm starting to get an idea what to expect out of him. Assuming that that's not a problem with the mod, I think that there's no big deal out of it. Hopefully as the game goes on, there won't be quite so much night-posting as this time around. (For one thing, the nights may be shorter once the night people get used to what they're supposed to be doing.)

Or, to put it another way, this drink will make a thin soup, to be served along with the meat on the bones... ehh.

:D

storyteller0910
03-28-2007, 10:18 AM
Okay, then hold the mozzarella thanks.

<backs slowly away with an expression of horror>

One And Only Wanderers
03-28-2007, 10:21 AM
So, are you telling us all to pipe down and wait to die??

Erm - I mean, wait for the sun to rise?


Personally, I think this is a good way of playing 'get to know you' before the overt strategy and voting come in. I didn't know Gadarene from Adam, before we ended up here in Mafia, for instance... but now I'm starting to get an idea what to expect out of him. Assuming that that's not a problem with the mod, I think that there's no big deal out of it. Hopefully as the game goes on, there won't be quite so much night-posting as this time around. (For one thing, the nights may be shorter once the night people get used to what they're supposed to be doing.)

Or, to put it another way, this drink will make a thin soup, to be served along with the meat on the bones... ehh.

:D

this night doesn't matter so much, because we can just remember to start from page 7 or whatever, future nights would be better with as few posts as possible from an analysis POV

chrisk
03-28-2007, 10:25 AM
<backs slowly away with an expression of horror>

::catches storyteller's eye and smiles a slightly crooked smile::

:cool:

NAF1138
03-28-2007, 10:34 AM
I will end the night as soon as all the night votes are in, or tomorrow at noon, whichever comes first. Not all the night votes are in yet.

But feel free to talk at night as much as you like, you never know when someone will slip with a piece of info that might be important. You cant talk strategy or vote, but the game doesn't end just because it is night.

Queuing
03-28-2007, 10:45 AM
Oh we are allowed to talk at night? I thought it wasn't allowed, and the bunch of you were breaking rules, you know like criminals...

Enough of this jager and "blue" drinks though! Gimme a couple of shots of tequila! One for me and one for whomever has the cajones to join me!

sturmhauke
03-28-2007, 11:16 AM
You're not supposed to talk strategy at night, but otherwise you can post as much as you want. And like NAF1138 says, someone could inadvertently give themselves away with a misplaced modifier or a dangling participle or something.

sturmhauke
03-28-2007, 11:18 AM
dnooman, sturm, what's that you're having? Looks like it packs a punch.
It's "like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Galactic_Gargle_Blaster)

Fretful Porpentine
03-28-2007, 11:23 AM
You're not supposed to talk strategy at night, but otherwise you can post as much as you want. And like NAF1138 says, someone could inadvertently give themselves away with a misplaced modifier or a dangling participle or something.
You mean my Sooper Sekrit English Grad Student Skillz might be useful in this game? Cool!

chrisk
03-28-2007, 11:23 AM
It's "like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Galactic_Gargle_Blaster)

Hmm.

Well none for me. Suspect I'm going to need my brains in relatively good condition for this.

Gadarene
03-28-2007, 11:47 AM
You mean my Sooper Sekrit English Grad Student Skillz might be useful in this game? Cool!

I can decipher that. Taking all the capital letters from the middle of the sentence gives me SSEGSS. I assume this is your vanity plate. Clearly it means you're a Nazi sympathizer who loves his omelets. Or a sea-faring chicken. One or the other.

Queuing
03-28-2007, 11:48 AM
You mean my Sooper Sekrit English Grad Student Skillz might be useful in this game? Cool!

No, because they aren't uber or l33t apparently.

NAF1138
03-28-2007, 12:00 PM
Alrighty folks all the votes are in.

Dawn breaks on the bustling little harbor town of Doperville. After a hard night of work down at the docks for some, and a full night of partying down at the bar for others, the citizens of Doperville make their way home to get some much needed rest. But as the first light of dawn breaks through the fog a blood curdling shriek pierces the silence, then another, and a third. Blood has been shed on the streets of Doperville.

Dnooman: Citizen
One and Only Wanderers: Citizen
and
Captain Carrot: Mason

Are all dead.

This day will last till Noon my time on Monday, or until the town places 10 votes to lynch.

The Understander
03-28-2007, 12:01 PM
Oh we are allowed to talk at night? I thought it wasn't allowed, and the bunch of you were breaking rules, you know like criminals...

Enough of this jager and "blue" drinks though! Gimme a couple of shots of tequila! One for me and one for whomever has the cajones to join me!

Tequila! Now you're talking!

Slam 'er down and pour another, that's the way to pass the night. Pickled!

The Understander
03-28-2007, 12:02 PM
What horrible timing. I suppose this drink, then, is for our fallen... in pace requiescat!

NAF1138
03-28-2007, 12:03 PM
So everyone knows who is around.

Player list:

Aguecheek
ArizonaTeach
Autolycus
Blaster Master
brewha
CaerieD
Captain Carrot- Dead
chrisk
cowgirl
Dnooman-Dead
Enfant Terrible
Fern Forest
Flying Cow of Doom
Fretful Porpentine
Gadarene
glee
hocow
Kat
Kivvik
Lakai
MadTheSwine
Malacandra
Menocchio
MonkeyMensch
nesta
One and Only Wanderers- Dead
pimaspinner
Pleonast
Pygmy Rugger
Queuing
Rysto
Smitty
StarvingButStrong
Storyteller0910
Sturmhauke
Suburban Plankton
Winston Smith
Zuma

Gadarene
03-28-2007, 12:04 PM
Ease up on the brown sugar this time, barkeep...this one's for my homies. :(

MonkeyMensch
03-28-2007, 12:12 PM
Yikes!

Pleonast
03-28-2007, 12:12 PM
Yikes! Three outstanding Citizens fall. We must avenge them!

Lynch Kivvik!

No reason, but someone has to start the ball rolling.

Ok, one reason: I don't like palindromes.

Queuing
03-28-2007, 12:15 PM
All 3 from the last game of werewolf (mafia). I wonder if that means anything? Is this going to be like survivor all-stars were previous winners had no chance (or players in this case?)

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-28-2007, 12:16 PM
Crap! It's jarring to see three people killed at once...I'm not used to that. Rest in peace OAOW, CaptainCarrot, and dnooman. We hardly knew ye.

--FCOD

Aguecheek
03-28-2007, 12:18 PM
Ho-ly cow.

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-28-2007, 12:20 PM
Yikes! Three outstanding Citizens fall. We must avenge them!

Lynch Kivvik!

No reason, but someone has to start the ball rolling.

Ok, one reason: I don't like palindromes.Well, you're awfully quick to vote against someone....

FOS!

--FCOD

StarvingButStrong
03-28-2007, 12:22 PM
Dnooman: Citizen
One and Only Wanderers: Citizen
and
Captain Carrot: Mason

Are all dead.

Oh, my stars and whiskers! This is dreadful. Dreadful.

So dreadful I can hardly bear to hear about it.




Um.





Er. No details, then? No way to tell the Mafia hit from the maniac's slaying from the vigilantes warped attempt at justice? As in, perhaps Captain Carrot got it with a bullet in each eye, Dnooman had "This is for Joey!" scrawled on his forehead with aqua blue sharpie, while Wanderers had a white bishop lodged in his throat??

Fretful Porpentine
03-28-2007, 12:22 PM
All 3 from the last game of werewolf (mafia). I wonder if that means anything? Is this going to be like survivor all-stars were previous winners had no chance (or players in this case?)
From a Mafia member's point of view, I think it makes sense to kill the people who were in the last game first -- they're the ones who already have a feel for the strategy, presumably, and can pass hints along to others.

Er. :: looks around hastily :: Not that I speak from a Mafia member's point of view, of course...

:: raises a glass to the dead ::

FlyingCowOfDoom
03-28-2007, 12:27 PM
At least we know that there's a Serial Killer and a Vigilante in the game.

And Masons.

--FCOD

Smitty
03-28-2007, 12:28 PM
You are correct, Fretful. I have been checking out the games on mafiascum.net. This is a common tactic.

Also, FCOD, random votes are always thrown out at the beginning of the game. It's just a way to break the ice.

And in that spirit - lynch glee. I do what random.org tells me to do. :)

chrisk
03-28-2007, 12:29 PM
Well, let's see... Wanderers didn't seem to want to say much during the night phase - and prophetically, he was predicting that three players would be posting 'arrgh, go town' messages once the sun came up. Now he's one of the three.

dnooman was also worried about being one of the first to die - and he was drinking the gargle blasters with sturm

and Captain Carrot was hoping to take all of that root beer home and enjoy it. *sighs*

Sturmhauke, did your drinking buddy say anything intelligble that might explain why he was killed off?

MonkeyMensch
03-28-2007, 12:29 PM
snip...
No details, then? No way to tell the Mafia hit from the maniac's slaying from the vigilantes warped attempt at justice? As in, perhaps Captain Carrot got it with a bullet in each eye, Dnooman had "This is for Joey!" scrawled on his forehead with aqua blue sharpie, while Wanderers had a white bishop lodged in his throat??
Yeah, I was dying to ask this question last night, if there was going to be any differences in the means of death. Oh well.

And seeing Porp's post in preview I too was hoping to have some help from the veterans, at least for me, 'cause I'm a noob and never read the parallel thread from last game.

Here's to you Captain Carrot, dnooman and One and Only Wanderers. ::sniff::

MonkeyMensch
03-28-2007, 12:30 PM
At least we know that there's a Serial Killer and a Vigilante in the game.

And Masons.

--FCOD

Or at least N-1 Masons.

Pleonast
03-28-2007, 12:37 PM
Or at least N-1 Masons.Good point. Do we have maximum numbers for the special roles? If I remember correctly, we know there's no more than 10 Mafia and 3 Cops. Only 1 Serial Killer and 1 Vigilante. No more than 2 Millers. What's the most Masons we can expect?

Hockey Monkey
03-28-2007, 12:43 PM
:::raises glass::: To our fallen friends, rest in peace.

Now I hope I'm not too ineee....inebreee....(hic), drunk to stumble to work. It's gonna be a long day. After my head clears a bit, I'll worry about casting a vote. (hic) I must have picked up somebody's Pan Galactic hoodgiemadoodgie by accident.

One And Only Wanderers
03-28-2007, 12:43 PM
Bah! go town!