Cockfighters, lay down thy cocks!

[Boyo Jim]

The national cockfighting pendulum seems near one extreme as Louisiana considers banning the sport, the last state in America where cockfighting is legal. Here is an AP story about it. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070409/ap_on_re_us/louisiana_cockfighting_1)

I have mixed feelings about this, as these folks have gotten so fucked over of late, shit, let them torment fowl.

I dunno, if you criminalize cockfighting, only criminals will have fighting cocks. Do we care?

I had this very unworthy thought that banning cockfighting from a backwoods swamps is kind of like banning Jerry's Kids from Disney World.

[Nars Glinley]

Oklahoma has only banned cockfighting within the last 5 years. Many sheriffs have said that they wouldn't enforce the laws.

A co-worker's brother in law told her with a straight face that "Cockfighting is something the whole family can enjoy." :dubious:

[eleanorigby]

Cockfighting with fowl holds no interest for me (although I deplore the cruelty to the fowl). The cockfighting I'd like to see involves two men, with hard ons, using their members in lieu of swords. I'd pay to see that. Not sure how the match would be won, though...although ejaculation would be immediate DQ and forfeit.







Maybe I need to get out more.... :cool:

[Telperien]

Wow, I just learned so much about eleanorigby. :D

[Boyo Jim]

eleanorigby should know that nobody came.

[mamboman]

They can have my cock when they pry it from.....

[Cluricaun]

What if there was altruistic cockfighting where the loser was cleaned, dressed, cooked, and given to a food shelter?

[Ike Witt]

I've heard that size isn't important in cock fighting. True or false?

[Savannah]

I'm lining up with eleanorigby. Where can we get tickets?

The kind with roosters repulses me.

[Boyo Jim]

I've heard that size isn't important in cock fighting. True or false?

That's a myth. Big cocks have all kinds of advantages when push comes to shove.

[Beware of Doug]

eleanorigby should know that nobody came.With those sharp metal spurs they put on their cocks, I'm not surprised.

[InternetLegend]

I'd really like Louisiana to hang on to the cockfighting for another year or so, just so we in New Mexico (http://www.governor.state.nm.us/press.php?id=374) can feel just a bit superior to someone for a little while.

[Klaatu]

I'd really like Louisiana to hang on to the cockfighting for another year or so, just so we in New Mexico (http://www.governor.state.nm.us/press.php?id=374) can feel just a bit superior to someone for a little while.

Heh, I'm with you on that. We're finally not last.

[desdinova]

Oklahoma has only banned cockfighting within the last 5 years. Many sheriffs have said that they wouldn't enforce the laws.

A co-worker's brother in law told her with a straight face that "Cockfighting is something the whole family can enjoy." :dubious:Yeah that was a really big deal when it happened. Or at least so I was told by various state legislators, who made it out like the entire state government was being turned over to PETA and no one would ever be allowed to own a cat anymore. I seem to recall some state senator from Henryetta making bold claims about introducing bills to repeal the law until his last dying breath, I guess to preserve the "way of life" of his constituents. I was a little surprised, all I knew about Henryetta previously was that there was a duck decoy factory there, Troy Aikman used to live there, and there's a couple of gas stations. I guess it was also a major center of cockfighting activity :confused:

My life has somehow managed to continue unchanged. I guess the former cockfighters have devoted their lives to other, more productive pursuits. Like making meth or something. Or maybe they just continue fighting cocks and the local sheriff's department just doesn't really care since he's been drinkin' with ol' Jeb at the local waterin' hole for years and ol' Jeb's a good guy and he's jus tryin' ta make a livin' and there ain't no point in enforcin' dem city slicker laws jus cuz dem libral faggos sez we supposed ta be nice ta critters. Sheeeeyittt.

I can say that the level of cockfighting activity I've observed before and since the new law has remained at a steady zero instances per year. I guess I should have gone to a cockfight before they were banned, but I guess I never get invited to the really cool parties :(

[Muffin]

The cockfighting I'd like to see . . . Google is your friend.

[Boyo Jim]

I'd really like Louisiana to hang on to the cockfighting for another year or so, just so we in New Mexico (http://www.governor.state.nm.us/press.php?id=374) can feel just a bit superior to someone for a little while.

There's always Alabama and Arkansas, amd that's not even going beyond the A states.

[Paul in Qatar]

I enjoy cockfighting. But then again I like Spanish/Mexican bullfighting. If the people of Louisiana want to ban it, well I guess I am OK with that. Still, it is often a shame when we lose our ancient traditions.

[Terrifel]

I'd really like Louisiana to hang on to the cockfighting for another year or so, just so we in New Mexico (http://www.governor.state.nm.us/press.php?id=374) can feel just a bit superior to someone for a little while.The governor's website features the New Mexico state seal, which made me laugh considering the topic at hand.

[Telperien]

Still, it is often a shame when we lose our ancient traditions.

It's just as often a shame when we do hang on to certain traditions.

[Rasa]

When I was in college, one of my anthro profs had a rep for being humorless and cold. One of my intrepid colleagues gave an oral presentation on cockfighting, to see if he could get a rise out of her (har!).

He did the entire 25 minute talk about cockfighting without cracking a smile. It was one of the stupidest, yet most brilliant, things I've ever seen. "Sometimes the men will stroke their cocks to excite them before performing," and so on.

I was just reminded of it. Anyway, carry on.

[Tapioca Dextrin]

The cockfighting I'd like to see involves two men, with hard ons, using their members in lieu of swords.

Might I suggest you purchase a copy of Philip Jose framer's semenal work A Feast Unknown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Feast_Unknown) :eek:

[lieu]

. The cockfighting I'd like to see involves two men, with hard ons, using their members in lieu...Hey, what the fuck did I ever do to you?






:D

[Sailboat]

What if there was altruistic cockfighting where the loser was cleaned, dressed, cooked, and given to a food shelter?

You mean subsidizing cruelty for charity? Kind of like if the state sanctioned pay-per-view child pornography as long as the cashflow was put to charitable uses?


I'd really like Louisiana to hang on to the cockfighting for another year or so, just so we in New Mexico can feel just a bit superior to someone for a little while.

I'd be speculating if I claimed that permitting cockfighting (or other cruel, mediaeval pastimes) kept poor, downtrodden people from lifting themselves up. But it surely isn't going to contribute to lifting them up.

Sailboat

[zeldarae]

According to Louisiana law, cockfighting doesn't fall under animal cruelty because fowl are not considered animals. LA Revised Statute 14:102.1 (http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=78236) :confused: Look at section D.

God, I'm so proud to be a native.

[vetbridge]

"I still go to the rooster fights on a regular basis because it's something I enjoy," said Billy Duplechein, 37, of St. Martinville. "And I'm trying to get my sons involved. It keeps our kids out of trouble.".
I picture him uttering this around a mouthful of greasy possum.

[kaylasdad99]

According to Louisiana law, cockfighting doesn't fall under animal cruelty because fowl are not considered animals. LA Revised Statute 14:102.1 (http://www.legis.state.la.us/lss/lss.asp?doc=78236) :confused: Look at section D.

God, I'm so proud to be a native.What's left, though? Plants, fungi, and protozoa?

[BrainGlutton]

Ah, let 'em ban cockfighting! We've still got bear-baiting, it's way better! :)







Eh? What's that?

[Unregistered Bull]

Score another point for cultural bigots and animal rights extremists.

Game roosters will still be fought in the mainland US whether it's legal or not. It's a felony in OK, and I know for a fact that it still occurs there. It still remains legal in Guam (long knife) and Puerto Rico (postiza), both US territories.

What I wonder, is where is HSUS going to focus next? Make matching game roosters a felony across the US? Make it illegal in US territories? Make horse slaughter for animal consumption illegal (you do realize that we still export them for slaughter and slaughter them here for animal consumption)? Factory farms? Maybe trapping?

[BrainGlutton]

When I was in college, one of my anthro profs had a rep for being humorless and cold. One of my intrepid colleagues gave an oral presentation on cockfighting, to see if he could get a rise out of her (har!).

He did the entire 25 minute talk about cockfighting without cracking a smile. It was one of the stupidest, yet most brilliant, things I've ever seen. "Sometimes the men will stroke their cocks to excite them before performing," and so on.

I was just reminded of it. Anyway, carry on.

How did the prof react?

[Terrifel]

What's left, though? Plants, fungi, and protozoa?Well, there's also minerals. Although some authorities now classify the chicken as an extremely intricate form of prion. This is why so many animals are said to 'taste like chicken'-- their cells have become infected with high concentrations of chicken molecules.

[Unregistered Bull]

Ah, let 'em ban cockfighting! We've still got bear-baiting, it's way better! :)







Eh? What's that?

Bear baiting is legal where in the US?

For a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, it sure seems that there is a tremendous amount of it here. In this thread, besides me and Paul in Saudi, who's even been to a cockfight?

[Unregistered Bull]

"Sometimes the men will stroke their cocks to excite them before performing," .

No they won't. I've seen a few thousand cockfights. That line doesn't even make sense. To excite them, you'll hold them to face another rooster, and they'll peck at each other.

[lieu]

In this thread, besides me and Paul in Saudi, who's even been to a cockfight?Ojinaga, just across the Mexico border from Presidio. Pretty rough crowd, that.

[BrainGlutton]

Bear baiting is legal where in the US?


WHOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHHH! :D

[BrainGlutton]

Ojinaga, just across the Mexico border from Presidio. Pretty rough crowd, that.

Well, at least they'll keep your boy out of trouble.

[Rasa]

How did the prof react?


Not surprisingly, she didn't. She thought it was serious. Yeah, she was that humorless.

[Rasa]

No they won't. I've seen a few thousand cockfights. That line doesn't even make sense. To excite them, you'll hold them to face another rooster, and they'll peck at each other.

That's fascinating and all I'm sure, but the guy giving the report was entirely not talking about real cockfighting. It was a juvenile (yet hilarious) practical joke.

[Cervaise]

Game roosters will still be fought in the mainland US whether it's legal or not.Photographs will be taken of fat guys fucking kindergartners whether it's legal or not.
eleanorigby should know that nobody came.Their mommas told them not to.

[HubZilla]

Ojinaga, just across the Mexico border from Presidio. Pretty rough crowd, that.

Waianae, Hawaii... way off the road and illegal in Hawaii. Very rough crowd, that.

Daet, Philippines. Although legal in the Philippines, still a pretty rough crowd.

[Sailboat]

Score another point for cultural bigots and animal rights extremists.

Game roosters will still be fought in the mainland US whether it's legal or not. It's a felony in OK, and I know for a fact that it still occurs there.

You're using this argument on the SDMB? The old "we can't make murder/drug use/child abuse illegal because I know for a fact it will still take place?" Coupled with the old "my culture does it so you're a cultural bigot if you don't like it"?

Dude, those are discredited arguments. For example, we're NOT going to legalize female "circumcision", child sex workers, dueling, or whatever, just because some cultures do these things.

Make an argument that cockfighting accomplishes some social benefit, but don't call us bigots for not liking a cruel, savage practice. Or if you do, why not go into the gladiatorial pit yourself; the Romans would pay to watch you fight. Don't be a cultural bigot!

Sailboat

[Unregistered Bull]

You're using this argument on the SDMB?

Sailboat

Of course, it fits. And this horse shit about comparing a cultural tradition that doesn't harm humans in any way to the actual harming of human beings really bespeaks of pure animal rights extremism. I haven't noticed any particularly rough crowds at cockfights either, and there have always been lots of children present.

[Darth Nader]

Here's a (work safe) youtube link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTmnCzuMa3A) for eleanorigby...

[eleanorigby]

Hey, what the fuck did I ever do to you?






:D


Hee. :D You have to admit, it'd be more interesting than watching a rooster die.


I am a bit leery of that movie....ye gods-what is out there? (I'm not googling that, no way!).



I can see that the ergonomics of the fight would be hard (sorry) to accomodate, so perhaps appendages should be attached to the er, protusions. Lengthening the swords will enhance the play, no?


where is the laughing evilly smiley?

[eleanorigby]

With those sharp metal spurs they put on their cocks, I'm not surprised.


Yes! Add an element of danger to the contest--have the guys wear spurs! Think of the strafing of the shins that would go on--sure to draw blood, which would enhance the whole experience.

So, now you've got two guys, naked, but each wearing an Extend-a-Cock, ankles equipped with spurs. Perhaps a cowboy hat or similar....in a sandpit, with spotlighting and truck rally music. Beer is two-fer.



We would make millions!

[BrainGlutton]

I haven't noticed any particularly rough crowds at cockfights either, and there have always been lots of children present.

:eek:

OK, that should be illegal, no question!

[Boyo Jim]

Yes! Add an element of danger to the contest--have the guys wear spurs! Think of the strafing of the shins that would go on--sure to draw blood, which would enhance the whole experience.

So, now you've got two guys, naked, but each wearing an Extend-a-Cock, ankles equipped with spurs. Perhaps a cowboy hat or similar....in a sandpit, with spotlighting and truck rally music. Beer is two-fer.



We would make millions!

You need to throw in a Robot Wars component. Give the naked guys each a crowbar, and have big machines trying to crush them, saw them up, or otherwis kill them.

[JRDelirious]

eleanorigby, I like your business plan... ;)



Around here the "sport" has been kind of in a state of lull for some time. Not much growth but not going away either. Haven't beheld a cockfight in decades, but sat the time in the regulated environment of the legal cockfights the crowds were loud and rowdy but not "rough" in the sense of threatening.

Never saw what the damn point was anyway. Sometimes one slays the other in two seconds, sometimes they peck at each other what seems like forever, I was bored and the spectacle of the wounded birds is pathetic in the end. It's not for me, and if it goes away that's progress for ya -- but no, I do not grant it moral equivalency to crimes against humans. Sorry.

Still, wouldn't you know, the reaction here at hearing that soon there'll be no more legal-cockfight states and the feds will forbid interstate trade in gamecocks has been along the lines of "See? Those Bad, Mean White Anglophones are attacking our culture, and anyway they're more immoral, look at how they make so much money on [porn/violent movies/violent video games/guns], and George W Bush bombs people, this is why we should not be a state EVER...etc."... no, really, I wish I were kidding. :rolleyes:

[pkbites]

Cockfighting with fowl holds no interest for me (although I deplore the cruelty to the fowl). The cockfighting I'd like to see involves two men, with hard ons, using their members in lieu of swords. I'd pay to see that.


This scenario takes place in the movie Night Patrol (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087795/), a quite humorous farce.