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Auntbeast
04-10-2007, 01:19 PM
In this Pit Thread (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=414960) the discussion of kilts arose.

Due to the discussion there, I've broached the subject with my husband. Any other folks pro-kilt?

What has been your experience?

I'll not post a link to Dijon Warlock's photo, but it was a damned compelling argument pro-kilt.

It seems with all the fabulous calves shown with kilts it's a shame to let them simmer in the pit where they may not be shared with all. :)

Antinor01
04-10-2007, 01:24 PM
Depends on the man, but in general I am pro-kilt.

RedRosesForMe
04-10-2007, 01:30 PM
I like kilts. I find men in kilts attractive. Assuming they are attractive already, of course, the kilt just adds to it.

tashabot
04-10-2007, 01:34 PM
Kilts = hot. My husband has one. Way too sexy.

~Tasha

frog princess
04-10-2007, 01:37 PM
Definitely pro-kilt!

nashiitashii
04-10-2007, 01:37 PM
If the guy has nice legs = Yowza!

If the guy has chicken legs, I'll still look. Just don't do like one guy selling pickles at renfaire did and wear pink Manties with ruffles on the butt. That's just silly.

Baron Greenback
04-10-2007, 01:40 PM
I like wearing a kilt to a wedding: full highland dress, eight yards of heavy plaid, skean-dhu and all. It's about the only time that the men get a chance to dress up as much as the women, in regular circles anyway.

Kalhoun
04-10-2007, 01:47 PM
I don't like them. They just don't do it for me.

Litoris
04-10-2007, 01:52 PM
I love kilts. Even on an ugly man.

The Chao Goes Mu
04-10-2007, 01:55 PM
I think they look great. I only wish women could wear them too. (I know, they're called skirts, hardy har) I'm talking about the real deal.

alphaboi867
04-10-2007, 02:00 PM
If the guy has nice legs = Yowza!

If the guy has chicken legs, I'll still look. Just don't do like one guy selling pickles at renfaire did and wear pink Manties with ruffles on the butt. That's just silly.

To properly wear a kilt nothing should be worn under it. Everything should be in perfect working order. ;)

BMalion
04-10-2007, 02:02 PM
Love 'em, own 2, yet to meet a girl who shares that sentiment but, whatever.

This summer I'm definately buying a Utilikilt.

I'm also quite fond of my hakama (http://www.ratance.net/~maga/blog/images/hakama.jpg) , which I wear around the house all the time.

asterion
04-10-2007, 02:45 PM
I've considered wearing a kilt, but I just don't have the legs for it. It's the same reason I never wear shorts these days either. Plus, my boss would have a fit if I walked into the lab wearing shorts (and I can just imagine his reaction to a kilt.)

Bobotheoptimist
04-10-2007, 02:51 PM
I can't bring myself to wear a cheap kilt, and I'm not wearing my good one to work. Faith, I'm not ruining those pleats by sitting on them for 9 hours...
Kilts are for walking and hiking, but not so much for working (besides, I've received several specific and adamant requests to never wear it to work again)

Litoris
04-10-2007, 03:03 PM
To properly wear a kilt nothing should be worn under it. Everything should be in perfect working order. ;)
Technically, with a queen on the throne, the option to wear underwear is there -- although why not go regimental?

Baron Greenback
04-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Kilts are for walking and hiking,

and dancing...

lisacurl
04-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Hott

Lanzy
04-10-2007, 03:11 PM
I'm not anti-kilt, I don't really care if men wear pink tu-tu's. But what makes it not a skirt?

WhyNot
04-10-2007, 03:13 PM
Technically, with a queen on the throne, the option to wear underwear is there -- although why not go regimental?
Tell me more about this technicality. I'm not familiar.


(Oh, and one more for the pro-kilt brigade.)


I'm not anti-kilt, I don't really care if men wear pink tu-tu's. But what makes it not a skirt?

The fact that a drunk Scotsman could kick your ass.

Baron Greenback
04-10-2007, 03:16 PM
I'm not anti-kilt, I don't really care if men wear pink tu-tu's. But what makes it not a skirt?

The fact that a proper outfit contains a concealed weapon?

Mouse_Maven
04-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Pro-kilt (http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/mouse_maven/?action=view&current=CoupleonPath.jpg). Love kilts. Love men in kilts - one at a time. :D

WhyNot
04-10-2007, 03:19 PM
Pro-kilt (http://s75.photobucket.com/albums/i292/mouse_maven/?action=view&current=CoupleonPath.jpg). Love kilts. Love men in kilts - one at a time. :D
I know we're supposed to be looking at him, but you are really breathtaking in that pic, you know!

Baron Greenback
04-10-2007, 03:20 PM
Technically, with a queen on the throne, the option to wear underwear is there -- although why not go regimental?

If you're wearing a heavy one all day a pair of boxers in your sporran is a good idea to minimize chafing as the evening wears on. Trust me.

WhyNot
04-10-2007, 03:24 PM
If you're wearing a heavy one all day a pair of boxers in your sporran is a good idea to minimize chafing as the evening wears on. Trust me.
I hear those IN the Regiment who wear scratchy wool kilts sew a small (or maybe not-so-small ;) ) square of softer material on the inside front to protect the Private from friendly fire.

Jodi
04-10-2007, 03:24 PM
My take on kilts: Dead sexy. Scottish accent and a kilt? Just lay me down in the heather. :)

FairyChatMom
04-10-2007, 03:26 PM
Definitely pro-kilt. Very very nice....

Mouse_Maven
04-10-2007, 03:30 PM
I know we're supposed to be looking at him, but you are really breathtaking in that pic, you know!

::blush:: Thanks!

Annie-Xmas
04-10-2007, 03:34 PM
Defnitely sexy!

Antigen
04-10-2007, 03:35 PM
My take on kilts: Dead sexy. Scottish accent and a kilt? Just lay me down in the heather. :)
Same here.

My guy would be hot in a kilt. He's definitely got the legs to pull it off, and, as it happens, an appropriate family name, too. But can I talk him into wearing one? Nooo. :mad:

LifeOnWry
04-10-2007, 03:36 PM
Oh, how I love them! (http://pics.livejournal.com/lifeonwry/pic/0002z609/)

(They love me, too.)

Sattua
04-10-2007, 03:42 PM
Men can wear whatever they want, but I'm generally not in favor of kilts. Dijon Warlock's picture is the most compelling evidence in favor of them that I've seen yet--I think the big bushy beard is important.

Litoris
04-10-2007, 03:50 PM
[QUOTE=WhyNot]Tell me more about this technicality. I'm not familiar.
QUOTE]

It is my understand from my British (particularly Scottish) friends that while "regimental" (no underclothing) is the norm, when a Queen sits on the throne -- out of respect -- one may opt for underwear. This is to avoid embarrassing the Queen if the wind picks up enough to expose your man-parts. Of course, I have done no research and have no cites -- only what I have been told.

And yes, I do have a problem with run-on sentences and punctuation, why do you ask?

AHunter3
04-10-2007, 03:50 PM
::looks around for Melis (Kiltgrrl)::

Hmm, guess she never made it over from the other side.

Skirts, kilts, whatever. I like them to wear, and have done so in public, but not quite ready to show up clad that way at the workplace.

Flutterby
04-10-2007, 03:54 PM
Men in kilts. mmmm.

Love them! I'm very pro-kilt.

ivylass
04-10-2007, 03:57 PM
Men in kilts...yum.

Men in kilts playing a bagpipe....double yum

Men in kilts playing a bagpipe who can also talk with a Scottish accent....I need to lie down. I'm faint.

gigi
04-10-2007, 04:13 PM
eight yards of heavy plaid
So there you're talking something that wraps around your waist and then up over your shoulder? Eight yard is a lot! But then that differs from a simpler skirt-type garment...are they both considered kilts or is there a distinction language-wise?

Jodi
04-10-2007, 04:23 PM
If you're wearing a heavy one all day a pair of boxers in your sporran is a good idea to minimize chafing as the evening wears on. Trust me.

Not to mention . . . (http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_dec2004/KiltBlown.jpg)

LifeOnWry
04-10-2007, 04:25 PM
Not to mention . . . (http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_dec2004/KiltBlown.jpg)

:D :D :D :D :D

What can I say? My favorite part of a man's anatomy is a cute tush.

Baron Greenback
04-10-2007, 04:28 PM
So there you're talking something that wraps around your waist and then up over your shoulder? Eight yard is a lot! But then that differs from a simpler skirt-type garment...are they both considered kilts or is there a distinction language-wise?

No, eight yards is the standard length of a proper round the waist only kilt - the pleats take up a lot I guess. From here: (http://www.geoffreykilts.co.uk/gentskilts.htm)

The most popular and highly recommended traditional kilt for men is the eight yard kilt made in full weight, 16/17oz worsted. Geoffrey (Tailor) recommends the full weight as it hangs so well and keeps shape excellently.

I know some military ones are a nine-yard standard.

They are pretty heavy to wear!

I'm not bothered if people want to call something that is more skirt-like a kilt - after all formal Highland dress in it's current form is only a Victorian concoction anyway.

AskNott
04-10-2007, 04:29 PM
If a guy's dressed that way from his kilt to his whatever-you-call-that-hat, more power to him. If a guy is merely replacing his trousers with a kilt, he's making a more courageous fashion statement than I would.

My mom was a tall, leggy dame, and she was fond of short, pleated, plaid skirts. When I try to picture myself in a kilt, I keep flashing back to Mom. I often wore running shorts in the hot factory, so it's not that I'm scared to show my legs. Maybe I'd feel differently if I had lived on the other side of town, where the Highland HS marching band has a bagpipe section.

In one of those television shows where a crew builds a massive ancient war machine from scratch, one of the builders wore a khaki kilt. He said, when he found out there were women in the crew, he decided he'd have to add underwear to work on the upper parts of the machine. Apparently, a camera looking up at him was okay, but for live women, he'd put on some Jockey shorts. ;) :rolleyes:

gotpasswords
04-10-2007, 04:33 PM
I think the big bushy beard is important.
Hmmm... Got that. :D Got a kilt as well, but an unfortunte laundry incident led to the wool "felting" and shrinking from 5 yards down to well, less, while getting thicker so it doesn't pleat well. :mad: Oh well, it's not bad as a table runner, at least.

alphaboi867
04-10-2007, 04:42 PM
[QUOTE=WhyNot]...It is my understand from my British (particularly Scottish) friends that while "regimental" (no underclothing) is the norm, when a Queen sits on the throne -- out of respect -- one may opt for underwear. This is to avoid embarrassing the Queen if the wind picks up enough to expose your man-parts. Of course, I have done no research and have no cites -- only what I have been told...

Supposedly this happened in front of Queen Victoria. Her Majesty simpley offered her hatpin to the man.

In one of those television shows where a crew builds a massive ancient war machine from scratch, one of the builders wore a khaki kilt. He said, when he found out there were women in the crew, he decided he'd have to add underwear to work on the upper parts of the machine. Apparently, a camera looking up at him was okay, but for live women, he'd put on some Jockey shorts.

He was afraid one of the women would sue him for sexual harassment? :D Of course if a man tried to sue a woman because he looked up her skirt and she didn't have panties on he be laughed out of court.

LifeOnWry
04-10-2007, 04:44 PM
Hmmm... Got that. :D Got a kilt as well, but an unfortunte laundry incident led to the wool "felting" and shrinking from 5 yards down to well, less, while getting thicker so it doesn't pleat well. :mad: Oh well, it's not bad as a table runner, at least.

What I (think I) know about kilts, by LifeOnWry, as learned from some guy at the Ren Faire:

The wool used to make plaids (they're not kilts until they've been folded and are on a body) was shorn from the sheep, dyed, spun, and woven into fabric WITHOUT WASHING. After its assembly into fabric, it was then washed in hot water, which both causes the wool fibers to shrink together (felting) and releases the lanolin that occurs naturally in wool - and thereby renders the fabric tight, warm and waterproof.

Also, "plaid" is fabric, not a pattern. Tartan is the name of the woven, uneven check pattern most of us think of when we hear "plaid." And, kilts are pleated and folded from plaids by hand in measurements that correspond to the folder/wearer's body, so all kilts (that are not pre-sewn into pleats) fit the wearer perfectly: for example, pleating begins one arm's length from the edge, and individual pleats are the width of the wearer's hand.

WRT regimental: men of old in Scotland wore very long shirts that knotted between the legs.

Or so sayeth the guy who told me all this stuff.

Anastasaeon
04-10-2007, 04:50 PM
I'm for 'em.

Valgard
04-10-2007, 06:57 PM
Some friends got married at Ren Faire many years ago and we all went in costume. I traded a bottle of Scotch for a full Highland Laird's getup - wraparound kilt, shirt, vest, tamoshanter (the hat that someone was asking about), sporran, etc. One of the other groomsmen collects medieval weaponry so we were properly armed.

Cut a dashing figure if I do say so myself. It was a lot of fun.

PoorWarblingOne
04-10-2007, 07:03 PM
Very sexy indeed. Count me in.

Now, where can I get me one of those men in kilts...? ;-)

Kevbo
04-10-2007, 07:18 PM
Now, where can I get me one of those men in kilts...? ;-)

So (http://eurobiker.smugmug.com/gallery/1880507#94701322), how are you doing?










Actually, I'm spoken for...sorry to tease.

Bobotheoptimist
04-10-2007, 07:24 PM
and dancing...Not wanting to misrepresent myself, I deliberately excluded dancing.

Re: length of fabric - about 8" of fabric per pleat * 32 pleats (one for each degree of masonry, coincidence?)= 21'4" of fabric for the back. 7 yards just in folds.


And why hasn't badkittypriestess stopped by to tell everyone how dashing I look? :(

zagloba
04-10-2007, 08:09 PM
I see a number of the utilikilt style at contradances, where they are very practical and usually attractive. But a kilt does nothing good for the looks of a fat man.

Lionne
04-10-2007, 08:17 PM
Maybe I've yet to see a sexy man in a kilt (apologies to the Doper men in kilts who've posted here) but I don't find them attractive at all. I like the idea of it, but in real life it just looks odd.

Cyn
04-10-2007, 08:24 PM
The Bay Area Dopefest I went to a couple years back, a young man wore an all black kilt and looked very nice.
What was his name?

fachverwirrt
04-10-2007, 08:29 PM
Here's (http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/fachverwirrt/709687709305_0_ALB.jpg) a pic of me at my wedding. So that would be pro-kilt.

Quiddity Glomfuster
04-10-2007, 08:35 PM
I married a man in a kilt (he was in the kilt). He wore a Montrose (http://www.kinlochanderson-kilts.com/sw_kinloch-md-bb.html) doublet that I had sewn. I've also made a kilt. Yep, a gen-u-wine 9-yard beauty. I was a Scottish Country Dancer for quite a while - needless to say I'm quite fond of laddies in kilts.

SmartAleq
04-10-2007, 11:29 PM
I'm very fond of kilts, but is has to be a properly handfolded, not sewn-pleat great kilt because sewn pleat kilts just look too much like skirts. The Utilikilts are pretty cool for a modern interpretation, I'm for 'em.

There was a fashion among the young men of our local SCA group who affected Scottish personas to wear a tiny bell hanging from a bit of ribbon tied to the end of their manly bits--the bell would hang to just below the hem of the kilt. It was very cute the way they'd jingle as they walked and quite a few of them were sporting the bells after a while--it all ended in tears one night as one of them stood up in one motion from a cross legged position on the ground and caught his bell under his instep as he stood... I won't go so far as to say there was an audible "boioioioing!" noise but he did get quite the introspective look on his face for a while. Shortly thereafter, as the word got round, nary a jingle bell was to be heard from under a kilt. Fancy that! :p

pretend my name is witty
04-11-2007, 05:17 AM
Whenever anyone really wears one in public, they tend to wear them too low and it looks a bit wrong, but what do I know...

I've never been against kilts, I just used to think as an Englishman it'd be a bit silly to wear one. But now I'm part of a (ex) Highland regiment I'm issued one, and told to wear it! When we go out into town for corps related celebrations, sometimes we'll all just wear them and a rugby top for the hell of it. There's a definate double standard for being groped/exposed in for guys in kilts opposed to girls in skirts!

But anyway, kilts look good if you've got the legs for it, if you're wearing them en masse and if you wear it properly.

Oh, and if you're actually Scottish (ie; live in Scotland, not just great-great-grandfather did) or have a really good excuse!

Baron Greenback
04-11-2007, 05:22 AM
There was a fashion among the young men of our local SCA group who affected Scottish personas to wear a tiny bell hanging from a bit of ribbon tied to the end of their manly bits--the bell would hang to just below the hem of the kilt.

No True Scotsman would do such an unbelievably stupid thing. :p

goldenmean1975
04-11-2007, 06:43 AM
I very much love men in kilts! My alma mater does in fact have a world championship winning bagpipe team and our Scottish festival is coming up in two weeks. I can't wait to gawk at all the men in kilts! Some of them will even have brass plates and animal heads over their junk. I feel that makes it ok to stare directly at their crotch area.

WhyNot
04-11-2007, 07:24 AM
Maybe I've yet to see a sexy man in a kilt (apologies to the Doper men in kilts who've posted here) but I don't find them attractive at all. I like the idea of it, but in real life it just looks odd.
How's this move you? (http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain't find that sexy, ye're dead and dust inside! :D

No? (http://groovyvic.mu.nu/images/ewan1-thumb.jpg)

No? (http://static.flickr.com/54/177228776_2ae92e702a.jpg)

I'll be in mah bunk.

BMalion
04-11-2007, 07:48 AM
This (http://www.e-kilts.com/ekilts/images/items/main/ladies-mini-kilt.jpg) is a little more my speed.

But by all means carry on.

Auntbeast
04-11-2007, 08:06 AM
Interestingly enough, my maiden name is Scottish and we do have a tartan. It's a pretty attractive one too, so that is a plus. Unfortunately, the side of the family I got the name from is a united bunch of scumbags, to be polite, so my desire to sport the tartan is diminished by that.

I'm thinkin' I'll get my husband a kilt and see how he likes it. He has rather large legs (sigh) that are rather difficult to fit in pants and I think that he would find a kilt rather comfy. He did admit that if it increase the groping, he would be all for it. Although I must say, with a toddler roaming about, he wouldn't be nearly as eager to go about all regimental as he may have been in the past.

*sigh* there is an attractive womens skirt in my size, in my tartan on ebay right now. Alas, no cheapo utilikilts.

CaerieD
04-11-2007, 08:07 AM
How's this move you? (http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain't find that sexy, ye're dead and dust inside! :D

No? (http://groovyvic.mu.nu/images/ewan1-thumb.jpg)

No? (http://static.flickr.com/54/177228776_2ae92e702a.jpg)

I'll be in mah bunk.

Oh...oh my. Thank you, WhyNot. What a wonderful post to come across first thing in the morning. That was better than coffee. Whew. Man...

I am definitely pro-kilt. I've seen guys I've found pretty bland physically suddenly go to stunning by wearing a kilt well. It flatters the legs in a way that shorts just don't, while also emphasizing the width of the shoulders and musculature of the chest. It doesn't even take particularly fantastic legs to manage, really.

Nava
04-11-2007, 08:17 AM
My school uniform was one of those with the "kilt", which I hated because, not being properly fitted, it was a bitch to wear (specially once my hips decided that I was, after all, my mother's Mediterranean daughter).

But I fell in love with kilts-as-worn-by-men during my first years living in Barcelona. One day, I was visiting Grandma and there was some sort of soccer match going on, involving a Scottish team. Grandpa (who until recently still worked at the Soccer Referees College) came in late, looking completely stunned by the sights of so many evidently-manly men in skirts. Anything that can stun Grandpa is OK in my book!

WhyNot, I must say Ewan is looking much better in those than in any other getup I've seen him wear. Da-yum! Have I mentioned before that Navarra is one of those places where Great Legs are a definite selling point on a guy?

Bridget Burke
04-11-2007, 08:28 AM
Definitely, yes. (http://www.kiltmen.com/greatkilt.jpg)

Any version of the "traditional" kilt can be quite handsome.

And I've seen "Celtic" musicians looking fine in Utilikilts. Skirts are definitely cooler in Texas summers--it's only fair.

StarvingButStrong
04-11-2007, 08:37 AM
Idle curiosity: Is it the same as surnames? I mean, if a woman from one clan marries a man from another, does she switch to wearing his clan's tartan?

Terrorcotta
04-11-2007, 09:49 AM
Heck! Kilts are what make conventions such as Dragon*Con more fun! They all look so cute and the elevators become a real spectator sport if you look up!

Several years ago I met this wonderful grandmother-type named 'Tyger' who wore her kilt along with a wifebeater type shirt to show off her tats and peace bonded weaponry. She was such a delight! I watch for her every year.

Lionne
04-11-2007, 09:54 AM
How's this move you? (http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain't find that sexy, ye're dead and dust inside! :D

No? (http://groovyvic.mu.nu/images/ewan1-thumb.jpg)

No? (http://static.flickr.com/54/177228776_2ae92e702a.jpg)

I'll be in mah bunk.
Hmm.. that second photo has some definite lingering qualities. Ewan's quite the hottie, and he's even got a great singing voice.

Guinastasia
04-11-2007, 10:03 AM
My take on kilts: Dead sexy. Scottish accent and a kilt? Just lay me down in the heather. :)


Oooooh....

How about this? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Guinastasia/Ewan/kiltedobiwan.jpg) (Oh, to be that purse!)

Or this? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Guinastasia/Ewan/best11.jpg) (lucky, lucky woman!)

Larger version of a previously posted pic (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Guinastasia/Ewan/sexykilt.jpg)

Quiddity Glomfuster
04-11-2007, 10:12 AM
Oooooh....

How about this? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/Guinastasia/Ewan/kiltedobiwan.jpg) (Oh, to be that purse!)
That 'purse' would be a sporran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporran) .

Guinastasia
04-11-2007, 10:16 AM
That 'purse' would be a sporran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sporran) .

Right-I forgot. Still, how many people would recognize that term?

Ceejaytee
04-11-2007, 10:32 AM
How's this move you? (http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain't find that sexy, ye're dead and dust inside! :D

No? (http://groovyvic.mu.nu/images/ewan1-thumb.jpg)

No? (http://static.flickr.com/54/177228776_2ae92e702a.jpg)

I'll be in mah bunk.

Oooooh. Thanks for that.

I'm in favor, but my husband would never ever wear one. And I have to admit, he doesn't really have the legs for one.

Man, that first picture is hot. Someone open a window . . .

BMalion
04-11-2007, 10:33 AM
Right-I forgot. Still, how many people would recognize that term?


Pretty much everybody who wears a kilt. :p

Kevbo
04-11-2007, 10:50 AM
My alma mater does in fact have a world championship winning bagpipe team and our Scottish festival is coming up in two weeks.

SFU?

Siege
04-11-2007, 11:08 AM
I'm a huge fan of men in kilts and I'd love to see the gentleman I'm dating in one, preferably in a situation where, shortly afterwards, I could see him out of one. I do have two questions, though.

1. How do you get an Armenian to wear a kilt?
2. What tartan should he wear?

I figure he'd look goood!

Jodi
04-11-2007, 11:39 AM
I'm a huge fan of men in kilts and I'd love to see the gentleman I'm dating in one, preferably in a situation where, shortly afterwards, I could see him out of one. I do have two questions, though.

1. How do you get an Armenian to wear a kilt?
2. What tartan should he wear?

I figure he'd look goood!

Utilikilts (http://www.utilikilts.com/) are very cool. Most of them are made of heavy-duty cotton, not wool, and are solid-color, not tartan. They have pockets and loops for tools. They're much different from the formal Scottish kilt worn with a sporran and dirk. No idea how you'd get an Armenian in one though. :)

Telperien
04-11-2007, 12:04 PM
I'm definitely in favor, and many thanks to all those who've posted pictures. :D

Kevbo
04-11-2007, 12:15 PM
1. How do you get an Armenian to wear a kilt?
2. What tartan should he wear?

I figure he'd look goood!

1. Attend a Highland Games with him. At Highland games you will find vendors selling kilts. It may be easier to get him to wear one when half (or more) of the men around are kilted. If this simple approach fails, make no secret of how hot and bothered you're getting. Make sure he receives the full and enthusiastic benefit of this hot and botheredness. Then ask permission to buy him a kilt. (This may not be required.)

2. There are a number of "generic" tartans. Just pick a base color he'd look good in. Ready-to-wear kilt makers generally offer Black Watch, Campbell, MacDonald and occasionally Wallace Tartans. Anything else has to be custom made. Clan tartans are actually a fairly modern invention, and people who espouse "rules" as to proper wear are frequently the object of ridicule. If he has a Scots relation or even friend, it would usually be perfectly acceptable to wear a tartan in thier honor. The only exceptions would be a few IP protected tartans. (like the one used on 3M products) And a few tartans denote specific fraternal organizations, veterans groups, military branches...it would probably be disrespectful to ignore these meanings....you won't run any risk of this if you buy off the rack. As an example, the Wallace Clan has made wonderful supporting donations to my pipe band, so we wear their tartan in appreciation, though there is not (AFAIK) a single Wallace in the band. (see linked photo in my earlier post to this thread) Also, Irish kilts are frequently a single solid color. The Utilikilts come in khaki and even camouflage.

Note that "off the rack" kilts can be fairly reasonably priced. The fit will be a compromise if your man is not of exactly average build for that waist size. Tailored kilts run to many hundreds of dollars. There is a lot of fussy labor in the pleats, and heavy wool tartan is expensive.

Some links:

Utilikilts (http://www.utilikilts.com/)
Stillwater kilts (http://www.stillwaterkilts.com/) Has some very inexpensive off the rack kilts.
J Higgins (http://www.jhiggins.net/catalog/customkilts.html) Among the least expensive source for made-to-measure kilts.
The local Kilt maker I patronize. (http://www.kathyskilts.com/)

Little Plastic Ninja
04-11-2007, 12:32 PM
How's this move you? (http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain't find that sexy, ye're dead and dust inside! :D

No? (http://groovyvic.mu.nu/images/ewan1-thumb.jpg)

No? (http://static.flickr.com/54/177228776_2ae92e702a.jpg)

I'll be in mah bunk.

.....*whimper*

I do believe I may be smiling all day long. :D

The only man I've ever seen look truly bad in a kilt is Prince Charles. Whatever his other qualities, fine or foul, he has unfortunate legs.

Auntbeast
04-11-2007, 12:39 PM
Am I the only one currently watching Rob Roy?

TV time
04-11-2007, 05:21 PM
A kilt was very good for me when I was courting my wife to be.

My rival showed up in a kilt at the rural middle school my wife-to-be was teaching. It caused such a comotion that the principal showed up and got into a shouting match with the rival, (with tons of middle school kids watching). My w-t-b said she wanted to hide under her desk as the two men were shouting at each other about the appropriateness of a short skirt on a man at a middle school that had stairways. All the time, the young children of the school ran by the kilt-wearing beau flipping it up and giggling.

I don't know if you have ever seen the Friends episode where Rachel's rival for Ross shaved her head and freaked Ross out. I didn't cause my rival (absolutely no Scots blood, I might add) to wear the kilt as Rachel caused her rival to shave her head, but given the chance, I would have. Anyway, he was out of the race after that.

So I totally approve of kilts - on other men,of course.

akira5822
04-11-2007, 05:36 PM
Very pro kilts, I just just married on 03/31 and i wore full Highland dress.
I felt i looked good and it was very comfortable. Akirawife loved it!!!

Antigen
04-11-2007, 06:53 PM
How's this move you? (http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain't find that sexy, ye're dead and dust inside! :D


Yummy. Very.

Think my boyfriend will be hurt if I get that photo enlarged and put it up in the bedroom?

goldenmean1975
04-11-2007, 08:12 PM
SFU?

No, actually Lyon College in Batesville, AR. I doubt any one here has heard of it. The bagpipe team is actually its claim to fame, and it once made a list of the top 10 small liberal arts schools or something or other...

Zoe
04-12-2007, 12:13 AM
Jodi: Jodi: My take on kilts: Dead sexy. Scottish accent and a kilt? Just lay me down in the heather.

Aye!

"Just roll some r's in me ears, lad...
Roll some r's in me ears.
Give me a beer and a lecherous leer
And roll some r's in me ear." -- author unknown

Litoris: This is to avoid embarrassing the Queen if the wind picks up enough to expose your man-parts.

I have seen a photograph of Elizabeth II seated at the bottom of some expansive steps, surrounded by a Scottish guard of some sort. The gentleman seated two or three spaces away from her will keep that particular photograph from being on display in the palace. 'Twas but a little breeze I suppose. I'm sorry that I can't reproduce it here. I'm not certain that I would be allowed to anyway.

WhyNot: I'll be in mah bunk.

That brings a whole new meaning to "pulling off a kilt." Come on, girls! We've got one cornered! Lord, tell me he's not a Campbell...

Zoe
04-12-2007, 12:28 AM
Oops! Sorry, WhyNot!

False alarm. She's a girlie.

I forgot.

DrDeth
04-12-2007, 02:18 AM
To properly wear a kilt nothing should be worn under it.

Sigh. Not true. Whilst the Scots in ages past did not wear what we would call "underwear" they often wore a shirt with very long tails,which were tucked up into a sort of breechclout.

And- how is a kilt sexier than shorts? Both show the same "great calves". :confused:

"Utilikilts" are very overpriced, note.

goldenmean1975
04-12-2007, 06:45 AM
Sigh. Not true. Whilst the Scots in ages past did not wear what we would call "underwear" they often wore a shirt with very long tails,which were tucked up into a sort of breechclout.

And- how is a kilt sexier than shorts? Both show the same "great calves". :confused:

"Utilikilts" are very overpriced, note.

Its easier to see up a kilt than it is up the leg hole of shorts :D although I've gotten an eyeful that way as well, if the guy was wearing boxer under the shorts.

ScareyFaerie
04-12-2007, 06:56 AM
Scottish accent and a kilt? Just lay me down in the heather.

Remind me to keep you and 'im indoors apart if he ever decides to wear a kilt again!

I'm definitely pro-kilt but sadly he refuses to wear one, much to my disappointment. I still think he'd look good in one but he's just been protesting for so many years, I've all but given up.

Infovore
04-12-2007, 02:20 PM
Add me to the pro-kilt brigade.

I like Scottish-style tartan kilts, especially when worn with a short black jacket, but what I really like is the "punk kilt" look--a guy in a tight black t-shirt (punk or industrial band logo optional but definitely adding to the effect), a black or gray Utilikilt, and combat boots. Mmm...yummy. :)

I keep trying to get the spouse to wear a Utilikilt (we go to Gen Con every year and the UK folks show up with a whole passel o' cool kilts) but he won't--he doesn't think he looks good in anything that shows his knees. But the one time I convinced him to try on mine (along with tight t-shirt, although sans combat boots) I thought he looked quite nice. :)

WhyNot
04-12-2007, 05:30 PM
And- how is a kilt sexier than shorts? Both show the same "great calves". :confused:
I had to think about this for a sec, but I think I got it, or at least part of it.

A kilt is saying "fuck off" to social conventions around dress - but it also honors a rather old convention ('though not as old as most people think) itself. Both ties to the past and "fuck off" to the present are sexy in a man - he's got his own mind and he's not afraid of what others think, but he cares about carrying on that line, as well.

Plus, y'know, fabric drapes in pretty ways around the pelvic bones and hips when it's not restrained between the legs. Why is a miniskirt sexier then shorts on women?

Moirai
04-12-2007, 07:20 PM
And- how is a kilt sexier than shorts? Both show the same "great calves". :confused:




Confused? Indeed you are! ;)

A man in a kilt looks hot. I wish mine would indulge (he has the pedigree, just not the desire). My brother's isn't fitting him anymore, but when he wore it to our wedding he had more eyes on him than I did! :D And his HS & college graduations were great, too- there wasn't another guy there who looked that good.

And Ewan McGregor slays in a kilt. But no love for Sean (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://nale.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Pictures/BigTam.jpg&imgrefurl=http://nale.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Misc/connery.html&h=409&w=190&sz=13&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=V44bIHD2w_z8pM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=58&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsean%2Bconnery%2Bkilt%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG) ?

Sleel
04-13-2007, 05:04 AM
I like 'em. They're comfortable. The only problem is that they do tend to be a bit warm sometimes if you go traditional and wear wool.

I wore one for the first time for a Renaissance Faire years and years ago. I bought 7 yards of tartan fabric that was as close to my great-grandmother's clan (http://www.lindaclifford.com/Gow.html) as I could find, and found out how to pleat it and belt it. The old-style great kilts are pretty darn nifty. You've got the top part (the bit that looks like a sash but in the old one-piece ones is integral with the skirt) that can be pulled over your head as a cloak or wrapped around you if it gets cold. You've got the tails that are normally twisted and tucked into your belt that you can arrange in various ways to make pockets. You could hide half an armory under the thing. And if the built-in easy access isn't enough, the whole ensemble comes off quickly, just remove the belt.

You do get attention from women when you're wearing one, I found. One incident that's seared into my memory is the time a young lady at the Arizona Renaissance Festival asked if I was wearing it "properly". I invited her to see for herself, so she started slowly running her hand up my leg . . . I think she was playing chicken and expected me to swerve first, but she finally reached a level that made her snatch her hand back from under my kilt, look away, blush, and stammer. I made things worse by saying, "I think what you were looking for was a little to the left." She happened to be a friend of my buddy, J, who I was visiting in Phoenix. He congratulated me when he said that he'd never actually seen her flustered before.

Good times, good times. :)

gaucho
04-13-2007, 01:27 PM
I'll dissent. I'm talking about the U.S. only, I have no idea about kilts in Scotland.

But horrible. Beyond "bad style." Well into "bad costume and it's not even halloween, what the fuck is wrong with you." Sorry.

Geobabe
04-13-2007, 10:54 PM
You do get attention from women when you're wearing one...So true. (http://geobill.netfirms.com/upkilt.jpg) :D (That's my husband getting felt up at a NYC Dopefest a few years ago.)

Guinastasia
04-14-2007, 08:48 AM
I couldn't let this thread sink without a link to the following: Kilt Lifting Kit (http://www.verymerryseamstress.com/kiltlift.htm).



(note for the humorless-I don't think anyone is suggesting you actually go around doing this without permission! And even if they are, it's still pretty funny as satire)

Clockwork And Candy
04-14-2007, 08:58 AM
So true. (http://geobill.netfirms.com/upkilt.jpg) :D (That's my husband getting felt up at a NYC Dopefest a few years ago.)

That photo has totally made my day. I like her hands-on-approach to the situation.

AHunter3
04-14-2007, 01:00 PM
OK, for all you womenfolk who like the guys-in-kilts thing, a question:

How about guys in skirts? I don't mean "in drag" with accoutrements and phony appendages and whatnot to make them appear female, but wearing the garment "skirt", of which a kilt is for all practical purposes an example, yet without the historical precedent of manly Scotsmen wearing them & whatnot?

Guys in skirts (e.g, a solid-color twill wraparound): braver than wearing a kilt, or more clownish for being gal-clothing (whereas a kilt is guy-clothing)? The view: comparable, or lacking a certain je ne sais quois?

Moirai
04-14-2007, 02:49 PM
A kilt is not a skirt, so let's leave that out for the moment. ;)

I have seen guys look very sexy in a sarong, but it REALLY has to be the right guy (and it's not always who you would imagine- Val Kilmer looks great in one, but Pierce Brosnan doesn't- too skinny).

But a regular old skirt? Nope, won't wash. Even if he's hot.

WhyNot
04-14-2007, 04:20 PM
How about guys in skirts?
I go to a lot of neopagan festivals, where dress is completely up to interpretation. Many of the men wear skirts, especially those broomstick hippie skirts (they pack really well in backpacks, what can I say? There's a reason they're the uniform of the hippie chick!) So I see a lot of men in skirts in judgment free environments, but I have to say kilts are sexier. It's the shape. The pleats and the length make the hips look narrow and the butt look pleasantly rounded, no matter what's really under there. The pleats hide any too-womanly bulging and the weight of the kilt smooths out a whole lot of flabby flaws. Or, if your body flaws tend to the other extreme, then pleating 9 friggin' yards of wool around your legs gives you the girth and substance your scrawny chicken thighs lack. A kilt is a damn good equalizer.

While there are some men who look great in other styles of skirt, it's a lot less universal. Some look too tall and skinny and gangly, others have beer guts hanging over the top. Length can be iffy, as generally the skirts in question are made to be mid-calf or ankle on women, and end up hitting right below the knee on men or right in the fat-calf danger zone (which women know to avoid, but no one sent men the memo.)

I have seen a few sexy goth guys in the city wearing floor length black canvas skirts, but they're basically just really long utilikilts in shape.

So it's possible, but not as risk-free. Just like some skirts are great on some women, but only the kilt-like schoolgirl skirt looks some level of sexy on every woman, no matter what her body shape or size.

Autolycus
04-15-2007, 01:35 AM
To quote a good friend of mine: "I'm not wearing any pants"

Capt. Ridley's Shooting Party
04-15-2007, 07:12 AM
They look alright on a Scot at a ceilidh, but anyone wearing them in any other circumstance makes me think they're either alcoholic or on their way downtown to busk with their bagpipes (which is probably correct if you see an old man walking around Edinburgh with his highland dress on).

China Guy
04-15-2007, 07:41 AM
Scots at a formal do in Hong Kong at least wear a dinner jacket (tuxedo top) with a kilt. Looks pretty cool I have to say. Much better than your standard penguin type tuxedo.

Guinastasia
04-15-2007, 07:50 AM
Scots at a formal do in Hong Kong at least wear a dinner jacket (tuxedo top) with a kilt. Looks pretty cool I have to say. Much better than your standard penguin type tuxedo.

Like this? (http://www.ananova.com/images/entertainment/EwanMcGregorandwifePA270x550.jpg)

(Oh lucky, LUCKY woman! Can you imagine what's it like to be married to this gorgeous specimen of manliness?)

Baron Greenback
04-15-2007, 09:01 AM
Like this? (http://www.ananova.com/images/entertainment/EwanMcGregorandwifePA270x550.jpg)


That's pretty much the standard for formal events - more often with a black bowtie.

Quiddity Glomfuster
04-15-2007, 10:25 AM
Like this? (http://www.ananova.com/images/entertainment/EwanMcGregorandwifePA270x550.jpg)

For formal dress, men wear 'doublets' with their kilts. That one is known as the Prince Charlie (http://tinyurl.com/ypa4fl) doublet. The other one is the Montrose (http://www.npcshop.co.uk/images/u/vmd_a.jpg) doublet.

Moirai
04-15-2007, 11:37 AM
My brother wears a Prince Charlie, plus all the accoutrements- a lovely sporran (in fact, it looks like the same on in the above "Montrose doublet" link), sock knives, another dagger, wool socks and ghillies.

Cute guy.

Moirai
04-15-2007, 11:38 AM
You know, guys can look equally good with any shirt over their kilt- most athletes I see competing in their kilts have a t-shirt or other shirt on.

Mmmmmmmmmm... yummy.

WhyNot
04-15-2007, 05:11 PM
Like this? (http://www.ananova.com/images/entertainment/EwanMcGregorandwifePA270x550.jpg)

(Oh lucky, LUCKY woman! Can you imagine what's it like to be married to this gorgeous specimen of manliness?)
Can I imagine it? Honey, you have no idea how often I imagine it!

Mmmmmmmmm... :p

Guinastasia
04-15-2007, 06:06 PM
Can I imagine it? Honey, you have no idea how often I imagine it!

Mmmmmmmmm... :p


Hell, if I were his wife, he'd never leave the bedroom, nor wear pants. But I'd make him leave the kilt on.

badkittypriestess
04-17-2007, 09:20 AM
Not wanting to misrepresent myself, I deliberately excluded dancing.

Re: length of fabric - about 8" of fabric per pleat * 32 pleats (one for each degree of masonry, coincidence?)= 21'4" of fabric for the back. 7 yards just in folds.


And why hasn't badkittypriestess stopped by to tell everyone how dashing I look? :(


ppppbbbbllllttt! :p

Lagavulin
04-17-2007, 11:03 AM
Love it! Lucky me I live in Scotland, and part of my job is performing civil weddings, so I get to see LOTS of men in kilts! My husband and his pals all wore kilts at our wedding, so the photos were a great hit with my friends and family back home in Texas (apart from my elderly small-town-living aunt's care assistant who wanted to know why the men were wearing skirts...).

ouryL
04-17-2007, 02:10 PM
Here :D (http://sporranclan.typepad.com/sporran_clan_log/kilt_tips_/index.html)

Fish
04-17-2007, 02:54 PM
I guess kilts aren't really popular with the young people of America because it looks really silly trying to wear one hanging low over your butt. Try busting a sag in a kilt and everybody will be busting out laughing.

B. Serum
04-17-2007, 04:06 PM
My buddy Gustav wears nothing but Utilikilts — used to work for 'em — and the women love 'em. We were out in NY one week and as usual as not, the girls all ask the typical question. Which he's sick of. So he's adopted a standard, "Show me yours and I'll show you mine" reply.

And I'll be damned if it doesn't work.

I admire the hell out of him, but I don't think I could pull it off.

Anaamika
04-17-2007, 04:43 PM
How's this move you? (http://www.clangregor.org/images/ewan-kilt.jpg) Iffen ye cain't find that sexy, ye're dead and dust inside! :D

.
Ok this one even got my attention. I'm rather meh on kilts...the idea is nice, as others have said, but in reality they are OK.

Baldwin
04-19-2007, 03:43 PM
Is there any other single garment that carries so much nonsense? If you want to wear a kilt, fine, but there's no reason not to wear jockey shorts or boxers underneath unless you find the exposure exciting. I'd bet money that Scots in the 16th century (the earliest time when kilts were definitely worn) had linen drawers on underneath, like every other man in Britain.

Pants are so practical and comfortable for most people that I doubt if kilts for men will ever be really fashionable in the U.S. But fashion is pretty arbitrary; lots of stuff that's now seen as feminine was formerly worn by men instead (like hose), or by both sexes (like purses).

Bobotheoptimist
04-19-2007, 03:57 PM
Is there any other single garment that carries so much nonsense? If you want to wear a kilt, fine, but there's no reason not to wear jockey shorts or boxers underneath unless you find the exposure exciting. I'd bet money that Scots in the 16th century (the earliest time when kilts were definitely worn) had linen drawers on underneath, like every other man in Britain.I'm not in the habit of discussing my underthings, but in a general way I agree that wearing nothing underneath would just lead to problems (especially as I'm married and have no desire to make the ladies point and laugh impress anyone)

BMalion
04-20-2007, 05:46 AM
... I'd bet money that Scots in the 16th century (the earliest time when kilts were definitely worn) had linen drawers on underneath, like every other man in Britain...


Cite? I think you'd lose that bet.