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Elendil's Heir
05-10-2007, 01:36 PM
With the "Name that book," "Name that ship" and "Name that rank" threads going so well, I was inspired.

What's the royal or noble title of these characters, and in what work of fiction did they appear? Rely on your own memory and don't consult any other sources, please. Feel free to add your own names.

Elendil
Faramir (last known gig)
Buttercup
Robin Hood
Elizabeth III
Fiona
Charming (duh!)
Harkonnen
Manwe
Shaddam IV
Ruprecht
Doom
Palpatine
Elessar
John Clay (heheheheh)

Kamino Neko
05-10-2007, 01:43 PM
Buttercup - Princess
Robin Hood - Earl
Fiona - Princess
Charming (duh!) - Prince
Harkonnen - Baron, if I'm remembering correctly.
Shaddam IV - Was he the Emperor at the start of Dune? (Been a LONG time since I read it.)
Palpatine - Emperor

Elendil's Heir
05-10-2007, 01:52 PM
Correct, but don't forget your sources.

Kamino Neko
05-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Oops

Buttercup - Princess Bride
Robin Hood - Various legends, TV shows, movies, comics, plays, mostly named for him.
Fiona - Shrek
Charming (duh!) - Various legends, TV shows, movies, comics, plays, usually rescuing the female lead.
Harkonnen - Dune
Shaddam IV - Dune
Palpatine - Star Wars

Kythereia
05-10-2007, 01:59 PM
Elendil - first High King of Gondor and Arnor (Lord of the Rings, Silmarillion)
Faramir (last known gig) - Prince of Ithilien (Lord of the Rings)
Elizabeth III - Queen of the Star Kingdom of Manticore (Honor Harrington)
Manwe - King of the Valar (Silmarillion)
Doom - ruler of Latveria (Marvel comics)
Elessar - king of Gondor, Arnor, and the Reunited Kingdom (Lord of the Rings)


How about...

Pothos
Duncan
Gale
Leir
Vardamir Nólimon

Lightray
05-10-2007, 03:26 PM
Shaddam IV - Was he the Emperor at the start of Dune? (Been a LONG time since I read it.)
He was the Padishah Emperor. Which might count for two, depending on how you parse it.

BMalion
05-10-2007, 03:29 PM
Cleon

muldoonthief
05-10-2007, 03:40 PM
Cleon - Emperor of the Galactic Empire when it unsuccessfully invaded the Foundation in "Foundation & Empire"

BrainGlutton
05-10-2007, 03:52 PM
Duncan -- King of Scotland (King of Scots?) in MacBeth (the one MacBeth murders to gain the throne)

Robin Hood -- in some versions of the legends, Earl of Loxley (in others, of more common birth)

Ruprecht -- mentially deficient pseudoprince portrayed for scamming purposes by Freddie Benson (Steve Martin) in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

BrainGlutton
05-10-2007, 04:17 PM
Leir (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leir) -- King of the Britons (pre-Saxon, pre-Roman) according to Geoffrey of Monmouth; inspired Shakespeare's King Lear.

jayjay
05-10-2007, 08:24 PM
Dor
Gloriana XII
Lorenzo the Kind

Larry Borgia
05-10-2007, 08:30 PM
Doom could also be Thulsa Doom, preist-king nemesis of Conan the Barbarian.

Priam
05-10-2007, 10:08 PM
Lorenzo the Kind

Last King of Ankh.

Edited to Delete "Morpork"

Eleanor of Aquitaine
05-11-2007, 08:27 AM
How about:

Robert Baratheon
Gregor Vorbarra
Betsy

Reepicheep
05-11-2007, 09:43 AM
Emperor Gregor Vorbarra (Lois McMasters Bujold's Vor series)

Queen Betsy (Maryjanice Davidson's UnDead and ... series)

C K Dexter Haven
05-11-2007, 10:05 AM
Dor
Gloriana XII
Lorenzo the Kind
Gloriana XII was, of course, the Duchess of Grand Fenwick (source: The Mouse that Roared) Bravo, jayjay, on giving me my fond nostalgia moment for the day. Probably for the week.

Kythereia, when you say "Pothos," do you mean "Porthos"? I don't think his ancestry or title were revealed, but he was one of Dumas' Three Muskateers, if that's whom you had in mind.

Elendil's Heir
05-11-2007, 10:29 AM
Duncan -- King of Scotland (King of Scots?) in MacBeth (the one MacBeth murders to gain the throne)

Robin Hood -- in some versions of the legends, Earl of Loxley (in others, of more common birth)

Ruprecht -- mentially deficient pseudoprince portrayed for scamming purposes by Freddie Benson (Steve Martin) in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

Right on all three - the last, in particular, brought a smile to my face. And you even remembered Martin's con-man character's name - impressive!

"Not mother...?" I love that movie.

fachverwirrt
05-11-2007, 10:41 AM
Some more:

Almaviva
Altoum
Enrico Ashton

BrainGlutton
05-11-2007, 11:03 AM
Dor: King of Xanth.

Kythereia
05-11-2007, 11:09 AM
Kythereia, when you say "Pothos," do you mean "Porthos"? I don't think his ancestry or title were revealed, but he was one of Dumas' Three Muskateers, if that's whom you had in mind.

Nope, I mean 'Pothos'. ;) It's a little bit of a stretch in terms of royalty or aristocracy, but Pothos is a ruler...

MoodIndigo1
05-11-2007, 11:15 AM
"Porthos"? I don't think his ancestry or title were revealed, but he was one of Dumas' Three Muskateers, if that's whom you had in mind.

In the sequel to Les Trois mousquetaires, Vingt ans après, Porthos is a baron.

MoodIndigo1
05-11-2007, 11:17 AM
Oops, sorry, the phone rang, and then I forgot to refresh.

Alive At Both Ends
05-11-2007, 11:19 AM
Duncan -- King of Scotland (King of Scots?) in MacBeth (the one MacBeth murders to gain the throne)
Both Duncan and Macbeth were real kings of Scotland, though Shakespeare's play is inaccurate historically. The OP specified "fictional" royals/aristocrats.

MoodIndigo1
05-11-2007, 11:21 AM
Sorry, K, the phone rang and I forgot to refresh before posting.

Kythereia
05-11-2007, 11:22 AM
Both Duncan and Macbeth were real kings of Scotland, though Shakespeare's play is inaccurate historically. The OP specified "fictional" royals/aristocrats.

I did mean 'Duncan' from Macbeth, but if the OP says it's not kosher I'll withdraw it. No harm done.

fachverwirrt
05-11-2007, 11:49 AM
Titles mean nothing in the US. A person named Baron Von Trapp is assumed to have a first name Baron.
Were you trying to post here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=420379)? Because I don't see how this is at all relevant.

BrainGlutton
05-11-2007, 11:55 AM
Jen Brozzek

cbawlmer
05-11-2007, 12:44 PM
Rygel XVI

BrainGlutton
05-11-2007, 12:56 PM
Rygel XVI -- Dominar (devant) of the Hynerian Empire, Farscape

Elendil's Heir
05-11-2007, 01:16 PM
I did mean 'Duncan' from Macbeth, but if the OP says it's not kosher I'll withdraw it. No harm done.

It's kosher, I think. The Scottish kings in Macbeth - hell, the kings, queens, dukes and duchesses, and misc. aristocrats appearing in virtually any Shakespeare play - are clearly fictional, even if their names happen to match those of actual people.

Der Trihs
05-11-2007, 03:45 PM
Here's some :

Kalvan
Selenay
Vlad Taltos
Kea Richards
Phelan
Fell
Robero
Incarnadine
Aevar
Mondrogan

BrainGlutton
05-11-2007, 03:56 PM
Kalvan -- Great King of Hos-Hostigos, Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen, H. Beam Piper

Der Trihs
05-11-2007, 04:06 PM
Kalvan -- Great King of Hos-Hostigos, Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen, H. Beam Piper< claps >

Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor
05-11-2007, 04:09 PM
Here's some :


Phelan



Phelan, Ilkhan of one of the Warrior Clans in the Battletech novels?

Khadaji
05-11-2007, 04:18 PM
Vlad Toltos is from a series by Steven Brust. Not sure of the series name, but I remember reading The Book of Jhereg and others from the series.

Der Trihs
05-11-2007, 04:50 PM
Phelan, Ilkhan of one of the Warrior Clans in the Battletech novels?Nope.

Vlad Toltos is from a series by Steven Brust. Not sure of the series name, but I remember reading The Book of Jhereg and others from the series.Ah, but what's his title ? No cookie without the title.

Khadaji
05-11-2007, 05:04 PM
Nope.

Ah, but what's his title ? No cookie without the title.
Geez, its been 10 or 15 years since I read him last. But I think it is baronet. I don't remember, I do recall he was sometimes referred to as Lord Taltos, but that doesn't clear it up for me.

jayjay
05-11-2007, 05:18 PM
Incarnadine is King of Castle Perilous, in DeChancie's Castle Perilous books.

New one:

Lan Mandragoran

BrainGlutton
05-11-2007, 06:06 PM
New one:

Lan Mandragoran

Eh? What's that? Lady Mondegreen?

Elendil's Heir
05-11-2007, 09:12 PM
Robert Baratheon - Robert I, King of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros (from George R.R. Martin's Song of Fire and Ice series).

Quartz
05-12-2007, 03:39 AM
Here's some :

Phelan

Bad Der Trihs! This is from the Deed of Paksenarrion.

As Phelan, he's Duke, but later in the book he's revealed to be really King Kieri Artfielan somethingorother.

Robot Arm
05-12-2007, 04:01 AM
Here's one for you all:

Merridew

Name the source, and what makes him unique (I think) among all the "Name that..." threads.

Dervorin
05-12-2007, 05:13 AM
Lan Mandragoran
Lord of the Seven Towers, Lord of the Lakes, true Blade of Malkier, and all-round badass, from The Never-Ending Wheel of Time, by Robert Jordan.

mbh
05-12-2007, 03:38 PM
Robin Hood: Earl of Huntingdon in some versions, Lord Locksley in Walter Scott's Ivanhoe

Fiona: Princess of Amber, Roger Zelazny's Amber novels

Harkonnen: Siridar-Baron of Geidi Prime in Frank Herbert's Dune

John Clay (heheheheh): If you mean John Clayton, then Viscount Greystoke in Edgar Rice Burroughs' Tarzan novels

Porthos: Baron de .......(There was a specific title. I wanted to post it here, but I had to look it up. While you're at it, Aramis, Athos, and Athos' son also had specific titles.)

My contributions:
Rudolf V
Black Michael
Rupert

Prospero

Elric

John Carter
Tars Tarkas

Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor
05-12-2007, 03:46 PM
My contributions:
Rudolf V
Black Michael
Rupert

Prospero

Elric

John Carter
Tars Tarkas

Rudolf V
Black Michael
Rupert--all from Prisoner Of Zenda

Prospero--Shakespeare, A Winter's Tale, Duke Of Milan (in exile).


Elric--Prince of Melnebonea (sp?) fgrom book of same name


John Carter--Warlord Of Mars and Prince Of Helium
Tars Tarkas--Jed of the Thark Tribe of Green Martians.
Both from E.R. Burroughs' Barsoom[I] series.

Czarcasm
05-12-2007, 10:00 PM
Selenay, Queen of Valdamar

Der Trihs
05-12-2007, 10:34 PM
Selenay, Queen of ValdamarCorrect. I was sure that someone would get that sooner . . .

Czarcasm
05-12-2007, 11:22 PM
Correct. I was sure that someone would get that sooner . . .
Sorry-I was at the theatre.

Priam
05-13-2007, 12:22 AM
Robert Baratheon - Robert I, King of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros (from George R.R. Martin's Song of Fire and Ice series).

For completeness sake:

Robert of the House Baratheon, the First of his Name, King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm

Der Trihs
05-13-2007, 01:57 AM
Some more :

Kelson Haldane
Colin MacIntyre
Maia
Uriel Septim
Riva

kivvik
05-13-2007, 02:21 AM
Some more :


Uriel Septim


Emperor Uriel Septim (Deceased), Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

Hypnagogic Jerk
05-13-2007, 03:16 AM
Muskar IV
Dakkar

jayjay
05-13-2007, 03:36 AM
Some more :

Kelson Haldane

King of Gwynedd, Kurtz's Deryni books

Riva

First king of Riva, Eddings's Belgarath series

Chronos
05-13-2007, 01:45 PM
Quoth the Chi of Tricor, Bosda:Prospero--Shakespeare, A Winter's Tale, Duke Of Milan (in exile).Surely you know better than this? Please tell me you meant to type "The Tempest".

Some more:
Caspian
Ribroast III
Benjamin IX
Bahzel

Der Trihs
05-13-2007, 03:49 PM
BahzelDo you mean Bahzell Bahnakson, Prince of Hurgrum and Champion of Tomanâk ?

Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor
05-13-2007, 04:04 PM
Quoth the Chi of Tricor, Bosda:Surely you know better than this? Please tell me you meant to type "The Tempest".


Yes. I read the two, one after the other, back on my last Shakespeare kick, & must have got the titles scrabmled. Prospero was also a White Magician.

Some more:
Caspian
Ribroast III
Benjamin IX
Bahzel

Caspian was from CS Lewis' Prince Caspian, part of the Narnia series.

Riborast was from Bored Of The Rings.

BrainGlutton
05-13-2007, 04:25 PM
John IV Fitz-Kenneth

BrainGlutton
05-13-2007, 04:27 PM
Elric--Prince of Melnebonea (sp?) fgrom book of same name

Emperor of Melnibone.

mbh
05-13-2007, 04:36 PM
I've got some more:

Andrei, Boris, and Natasha.
(No, I do not mean the "Rocky and Bullwinkle" characters!)

Lady Chatterley's husband.

Der Trihs
05-13-2007, 04:46 PM
Benjamin IXProtector of Grayson

BrainGlutton
05-13-2007, 05:12 PM
Riborast was from Bored Of The Rings.

Only it was a place, not a personal name. As in, "the High King at Ribroast."

BrainGlutton
05-13-2007, 05:13 PM
Riborast was from Bored Of The Rings.

Only it was a place, not a personal name. As in, "While there was still a High King at Ribroast [the Boggies of the Sty] remained nominally his subjects, and to the final battle with the Slumlord of Borax they sent some snipers, though who they sided with is not clear."

Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor
05-13-2007, 06:56 PM
Only it was a place, not a personal name. As in, "While there was still a High King at Ribroast [the Boggies of the Sty] remained nominally his subjects, and to the final battle with the Slumlord of Borax they sent some snipers, though who they sided with is not clear."
Ummm...why didn't you just use the "Edit Post" button? :dubious:

BrainGlutton
05-13-2007, 07:17 PM
Ummm...why didn't you just use the "Edit Post" button? :dubious:

I remember doing just that. I think there was some kinda glitch.

Little Plastic Ninja
05-13-2007, 09:58 PM
Lady Chatterley's husband.

A baronet, Sir Clifford.

Mine: Pteppicymon XXVII.

Bonus points if you can rattle off the entire title without referring back to the book. :D

jayjay
05-13-2007, 10:43 PM
Mine: Pteppicymon XXVII.

Former Pharaoh of Djelibeybi, Pratchett's Pyramids. Can't give you the full title without looking, though.

Elendil's Heir
05-14-2007, 08:36 AM
...
John Clay (heheheheh): If you mean John Clayton, then Viscount Greystoke in Edgar Rice Burroughs' Tarzan novels....

Nope. Here's a little hint: he claims to be an aristocrat, but is treated sarcastically by the person to whom he makes the claim.

Kythereia
05-14-2007, 11:47 AM
Nope. Here's a little hint: he claims to be an aristocrat, but is treated sarcastically by the person to whom he makes the claim.

John Clay = also known as Spaulding, one-time antagonist of Sherlock Holmes in The Red-Headed League:

“I beg that you will not touch me with your filthy hands,” remarked our prisoner as the handcuffs clattered upon his wrists. “You may not be aware that I have royal blood in my veins. Have the goodness, also, when you address me always to say ‘sir’ and ‘please.’ ”

“All right,” said Jones with a stare and a snigger. “Well, would you please, sir, march upstairs, where we can get a cab to carry your Highness to the police-station?”

Exactly how much of a geek am I? :D

Elendil's Heir
05-14-2007, 12:42 PM
Outstanding! You nailed it, Kythereia. Did you have to type in all that deathless Conan Doylesque prose, or are the stories online somewhere?

Kythereia
05-14-2007, 01:37 PM
Outstanding! You nailed it, Kythereia. Did you have to type in all that deathless Conan Doylesque prose, or are the stories online somewhere?

Project Gutenberg is made of equal parts awesome and win (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1661). ;)

BrainGlutton
05-14-2007, 04:25 PM
John IV Fitz-Kenneth

I don't think anyone's gonna get this one.

Baker
05-14-2007, 05:31 PM
I don't think anyone's gonna get this one.

President, wasn't he?

Quartz
05-14-2007, 05:34 PM
Emperor of Melnibone.
Not exactly. He starts as Prince - his father is Sadric. And he's usurped by his brother.

fachverwirrt
05-14-2007, 05:57 PM
Not exactly. He starts as Prince - his father is Sadric. And he's usurped by his brother.
I just checked the Elric Saga, and as of the beginning, Sadric has been "dead a year". Elric is indeed referred to as the Emperor.

(One can nitpick that it's Melniboné, not Melnibone, but that's another story.)

BrainGlutton
05-14-2007, 06:25 PM
President, wasn't he?

:) President of Thiscountry, as recounted in Avram Davidson's 1962 short story, "The Singular Events Which Occurred in the Hovel in the Alley off of Eye Street." "It was the year that the dragons were so bad . . ." John IV does not actually appear as a character, but the story begins with his coronation, including the spectacle of the Veep riding his palomino back and forth, proclaiming, "Whosoever denies that John Fitz-Kenneth is rightful president of Thiscountry lies, and is an SOB."

BrainGlutton
05-14-2007, 06:50 PM
Jen Brozzek

Sorry, I meant Jenn Brozek.

Anybody?