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Drain Bead
10-16-2000, 04:51 PM
I often hear people say "I'm jonesing for a Kit-Kat bar," or "I have a Jones for a Kit-Kat bar," meaning that they crave it. How the hell did this phrase come to be? Who was Jones?
andygirl
10-16-2000, 05:09 PM
Jughead, of course. Didn't you every read Archie?
According to my slang dictionary, Jones or Jonesing originally referred to a drug habit- that is, Jonesing was needing to get a hit.
My WAG is that it then evolved from referring to just drugs to anything that the speaker craves.
No idea about the actual reason behind Jones, though. Some drug slang is... well, undecipherable. Perhaps since Jones is such a common name it was designed to be innocuous.
markle9
10-16-2000, 05:15 PM
I always thought the expression was related to "Keeping Up
With the Joneses"...i.e. you wanted to have the same (or
better) stuff as your next door neighbor. So, if they
had a Kit Kat bar, and you didn't, well, you were jonesing
for one. Of course, I could be completely wrong...
markle9
mazzer
10-16-2000, 05:40 PM
markle9 is right. Hip-hop proliferated slang.
Junior Spaceman
10-16-2000, 06:09 PM
According to my memory, and a few minutes of internet research (try putting 'Jones' in a search engine ;)), Jones in this context goes back at least to the 1950's, according to The Word On The Street (http://www.ssgfx.com/CP2020/slang/):Jones:
n. Retro-1950s term for an addiction or expensive habit.I also remember William Burroughs using the term Jones to mean both the drug opium, and the yearning for it. I still couldn't come up with the actual etymology of it, but like a lot of slang, that may be lost to time.
HenrySpencer
Wendell Wagner
10-16-2000, 07:29 PM
Haven't you ever heard the Cheech and Chong song "Basketball Jones"?
yabob
10-16-2000, 08:01 PM
William S. Burroughs use in "Naked Lunch" would take us back to 1959, when it was first published.
Well established by the 60's.
"Got a jones, running in my bones" - Curtis Mayfield lyric from the movies "Superfly" in 1972, which is about of the same vintage as the Cheech and Chong reference.
As for "Keeping Up with the Joneses", I will bet it followed a separate etymological path. WAG: from Vance Packard's "The Status Seekers" in the 1950's?
Wendell Wagner
10-17-2000, 05:37 AM
The OED says that "keeping up with the Jones" originated in the U.S. and it cites an example from 1913. It's almost certainly unrelated to the term "Jones" in the meaning of an addiction.
Northern Piper
10-17-2000, 05:45 AM
Keeping up with the Joneses: Trying to keep up the social level or to keep up appearances with your neighbours. The phrase was invented by Arthur R. ("Pop") Momand, the comic-strip artist, for a series which began in the New York Globe in 1913, and ran in that and other papers for 28 years. It was originally based on the artist's own attempts to keep up with his neighbours.
Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, Centenary Edition (1981).
Jonathan Chance
10-17-2000, 10:43 AM
Let's not forget the usage of the Mighty Mighty Bosstones:
"He didn't rob me for food it wasn't hunger but a jones"
So apparently this remarkably transformational word can be used in many ways and placements.
jesuslynch
10-17-2000, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by chriszarate
markle9 is right. Hip-hop proliferated slang.
I guess I was just hallucinating when I heard that back in the 70's.
Wait, I was hallucinating back in the 70's!
::walks away singing::
Coach done kicked me off the basketball team....
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