Mafia V: The Cult of Sekham

[Blaster Master]

MFing flash, I had it all typed in, and flash crashed my browser. :mad:

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

*falls over dead*













thunk

[FlyingCowOfDoom]

YOU BASTARD!

How dare you post a non-dusk reply to this thread???

:D :p

--FCOD

[MHaye]

*falls over dead*
*Revives DarkCookies.*

Whispers Think how much fun you can have with the smite button on another board we know of...

[Captain Klutz]

*falls over dead*

thunk
Oh my God! You've killed Cookies!

You bastard!

[Zeriel]

Blaster Master. Post the ending or else.
I will END you.
I will eat all your pokemons.
I will bite your torso and give you a disease.
I will ... some other insane-sounding threats.

[Hockey Monkey]

:::bounce:::
:::bounce:::
:::bounce:::

I can't sit still!

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

In exactly 29 minutes I have my first meeting of the day I'll likely get sucked into the vortex of work. I hope the rest of you at least think of me while you're all basking in the glow of closure and enlightenment. And maybe, sometime in this millennium, I might be able to join you. :P

[CatInASuit]

Sometime in this millenium, we would also like some enlightenment as well.

Come on BM - what's keeping you???

[FlyingCowOfDoom]

Seriously, this is getting close to the point of being uncool. It's been over 12 hours since the Day ended, and much more than that since Cookies cast her vote...

--FCOD

[Blaster Master]

It had been many years since ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies had made her oath to the Monastic Order of Nairu. She had made that choice with the intentions of her life being one of prayer, meditation, and servitude to the followers of their goddess. Little could she had imagined that that decision so long ago would rest the fate of this town, no, the World upon her shoulders.

It had been two Weeks since their High Priest had been found dead and the rumors of the Cult of Sekham's presence had become all but demonstratable fact. Despite her desires for a life of peace; when this news reached their monastery; along with her brethren Storyteller0910, Zeriel, and sachetorte; she had no choice but to do what she could to stop the them.

She had come to the town, fully expecting that she may have to lay her life on the line. With the death of FlyingCowOfDoom, she had returned to the monastery alone fully expecting to be the victim of the Prophet's foul rituals that night. Unbeknownst to her, as she laid awake into the wee hours of the morning, though she laid awake preparing for her own demise, so too were the other townsmen nocturnally vigilant.

The sun had risen, and she had passed out seemingly only minutes before as the crow of the rooster startled her awake. It was, at first, a pleasant surprise to find herself alive until the moment of realization struck as she had quickly found her way to the village square to discover the slain USCDiver, and the battered and bruised pair of Kyrie Eleison and Queuing.

At first, she dared not distinguish the two; instead, she chose to be diplomatic as she offered each a chance to defend himself and indict the other. It seemed Kyrie Eleison was, by far, the more silver tongued, as he had convinced her that it was Queuing who was the Prophet of Sekham to the point that she was assisting him with the preparations for his dunking. But it was at that moment that an uneasy feeling grew in her belly. How could she let these two, neither of whom she could trust, be the ones to make up her mind? And so, it was at this moment that did what any good monk would do; she prayed and meditated.

It was many tense hours, as she sat in quiet seclusion in the temple's inner sanctum. Queuing and Kyrie Eleison shared the uneasy glare of a hopeful townsfolk and a devious villain, each only hoping he'd done enough to convince her. But morning became noon, noon became evening, and evening became Night as she finally arose from her solitude.

Then, Kyrie Eleison and Queuing listened in ernest, and then in awe, as she laid out the many careful interactions of Kyrie Eleison with the other Cultists they'd found and executed. And so, she was certain, dead certain, that it was Kyrie Eleison who was, in fact, the Prophet.

He was in shock. Quickly he pleaded with her to put the same effort into remembering all the suspicious deeds of Queuing. Alas, his words for futile, for they fell on deaf ears. For better, or for worse, she had made her mind, and would hear no more of their trickery. Not another moment passed before it was now Queuing who delighted to enshackle Kyrie Eleison, as both he and ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies led the now morbidly silent Kyrie Eleison up the stairs to the edge of the pool of sacred water. With a smirk on the face of Queuing and an uneasy grimmace on that of the hesitant monk, they stood there for only the briefest moment of reflection. While ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies worried herself over the weight of the decision she'd just made, Queuing took the initiative and shoved the suspected Prophet over the edge.

[The Composer]

*faints*

The suspense!!

[CatInASuit]

Blaster Master - Part 2

NOW!!!

[FlyingCowOfDoom]

You, sir, are a true bastard.

--FCOD

[Zeriel]

BlaM, I hate you.

[storyteller0910]

I have a feeling ol' Spaceman Spiff is going to be struggling with his karma for a few months.

[Zeriel]

He's gonna wake up tomorrow with "vote Blaster Master" spraypainted in royal blue across his front door.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

*grabs laptop*
*slams door*
*walks away muttering*

:mad:

[storyteller0910]

It's funny - the Firefly game has stopped dead in the water. Not even Roosh is posting over there. I think there are probably more than a hundred people watching this thread rigth now.

[FlyingCowOfDoom]

Ok, does anyone know where BlaM lives? I'll go over there right now and kick his ass. Who's with me?

--FCOD

[CatInASuit]

Please don't tell me BM is waiting for the page count to tick over to the top again - just for the hell of it

<lends FCoD a basball bat>

[DiggitCamara]

Ok, does anyone know where BlaM lives? I'll go over there right now and kick his ass. Who's with me?

--FCOD
I've got a better idea: let's unanimously lynch him in his "spaceman" incarnation

:D

[Boozahol Squid, P.I.]

I am so close to agreeing with you, Diggit, it ain't even funny. :)

[Mtgman]

I am so close to agreeing with you, Diggit, it ain't even funny. :)
Scum tell though it may be, I'm willing to be the third vote on this bandwagon.

Enjoy,
Steven

[Blaster Master]

Now, Queuing had always be a bit of an impulsive man. Though his beliefs seemed a complete mystery to his fellow villagers, he was hardly a stranger among them. Many a night had come and passed where he'd made quite the bit a fool of himself at the bar. Perhaps he'd just had a few too many drinks, but there was hardly a challenge he would turn away, or an argument in which he dared not impart his views. At times it made him friends, at others it made him enemies, but it always raised the brow of all who witnessed.

Regardless, it was the impulsiveness now that had brought about the circumstance. With breath held, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies watched him fall toward the water's surface in seeming slow motion until... he stopped.

In nearly perfect unison, the jaws of both Queuing and ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies dropped. They had expected him to at least float in the water, not above it. The morbidly silent Kyrie Eleison was silent no more as he raised his eyes to meet those of his foes. No longer were they the pale hazel green with which they were familiar, but the color of blood. His skin, glowed a faint yellow aura as he raised his hand in a sequence of gestures, as he spoke words unknown to them.

It was Queuing who first returned to his awareness. "He's casting a spell!" Without a second thought, he launched himself from the platform, sending his body careening into Kyrie Eleison. He tackled him in mid-air, thrusting both of them past the edge of the tank and plummetting to the floor a dozen feet below.

It was a loud thud as they landed just out of the sight of ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, obscured by tank of sacred water. With haste, she ran down the stairs. There laid Kyrie Eleison, flat on his back, the force of the impact causing him to cough and weeze a lung full of blood, with Queuing seemingly unharmed, his fall broken by the body beneath. With a gasp, gurgling the blood choking his throat, Kyrie Eleison spoke his final words: "A curse upon you and your household. Though I may die, our Lord Sekham WILL return."

Though he deserved no such swift death, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies withdrew the ceremonial dagger from it's sheath upon her belt, and slit the throat of their mutual foe, Kyrie Eleison.

But one question remained, the fate and the faith of her last fellow, Queuing. She rolled him off of Kyrie Eleison to inspect his injuries. She released a deep sigh as she observed the massive wound in his chest... it seemed Queuing had been just a step too late in interupting his spell, and had taken the blast full on.

"ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies," he spoke he almost a whisper for the first time since the ordeal had began, " is... is he dead?" She sniffed, stiffling a tear, as she simply nodded, afraid to speak and let the emotion overcome her. "Then, I'm happy to have given my life in service to Nairu." She offered a weak smile, and took his hand for the final few moments.

Finally, she came to her feet and observed the carnage the surrounded her. Though she now stood alone, she had stopped the Cult of Sekham. Though it would take many years for the town to recover from those fateful two Weeks, they did once again become a flourishing village where the legend of ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies and the heroic and selfless act of Queuing would live on in the hearts of the people for generations to come.

[NAF1138]

Now, Queuing had always be a bit of an impulsive man. Though his beliefs seemed a complete mystery to his fellow villagers, he was hardly a stranger among them. Many a night had come and passed where he'd made quite the bit a fool of himself at the bar. Perhaps he'd just had a few too many drinks, but there was hardly a challenge he would turn away, or an argument in which he dared not impart his views. At times it made him friends, at others it made him enemies, but it always raised the brow of all who witnessed.

Regardless, it was the impulsiveness now that had brought about the circumstance. With breath held, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies watched him fall toward the water's surface in seeming slow motion until... he stopped.

In nearly perfect unison, the jaws of both Queuing and ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies dropped. They had expected him to at least float in the water, not above it. The morbidly silent Kyrie Eleison was silent no more as he raised his eyes to meet those of his foes. No longer were they the pale hazel green with which they were familiar, but the color of blood. His skin, glowed a faint yellow aura as he raised his hand in a sequence of gestures, as he spoke words unknown to them.

It was Queuing who first returned to his awareness. "He's casting a spell!" Without a second thought, he launched himself from the platform, sending his body careening into Kyrie Eleison. He tackled him in mid-air, thrusting both of them past the edge of the tank and plummetting to the floor a dozen feet below.

It was a loud thud as they landed just out of the sight of ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies, obscured by tank of sacred water. With haste, she ran down the stairs. There laid Kyrie Eleison, flat on his back, the force of the impact causing him to cough and weeze a lung full of blood, with Queuing seemingly unharmed, his fall broken by the body beneath. With a gasp, gurgling the blood choking his throat, Kyrie Eleison spoke his final words: "A curse upon you and your household. Though I may die, our Lord Sekham WILL return."

Though he deserved no such swift death, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies withdrew the ceremonial dagger from it's sheath upon her belt, and slit the throat of their mutual foe, Kyrie Eleison.

But one question remained, the fate and the faith of her last fellow, Queuing. She rolled him off of Kyrie Eleison to inspect his injuries. She released a deep sigh as she observed the massive wound in his chest... it seemed Queuing had been just a step too late in interupting his spell, and had taken the blast full on.

"ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies," he spoke he almost a whisper for the first time since the ordeal had began, " is... is he dead?" She sniffed, stiffling a tear, as she simply nodded, afraid to speak and let the emotion overcome her. "Then, I'm happy to have given my life in service to Nairu." She offered a weak smile, and took his hand for the final few moments.

Finally, she came to her feet and observed the carnage the surrounded her. Though she now stood alone, she had stopped the Cult of Sekham. Though it would take many years for the town to recover from those fateful two Weeks, they did once again become a flourishing village where the legend of ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies and the heroic and selfless act of Queuing would live on in the hearts of the people for generations to come.

BOOO! I demand a recount! :p

Good game everyone, it was lots of fun!

[Blaster Master]

Kyrie Eleison, the Prophet, has fallen.

Congratulations to the Town, in a close and exciting game. Well played by all.


I will be opening up the Cult and Night information board shortly. You can find them both at http://baronsloth.proboards98.com/

I will also be posting my spreadsheet later today at http://mason.gmu.edu/~kdaffron/MV.xls

Please feel free to post any post game comments, stories, and questions in this thread now.

[Queuing]

Nice ending BM. I sure am glad that cookies did all that work. That was a very risky gamble you took Kyrie, I was very surprised by it.

[Fretful Porpentine]

Good game, everyone, and thanks to BlaM for running it!

[CatInASuit]

Blaster Master - thanks for the excellent game

ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies - Please come and accept your award from a grateful town for sheer bloody minded persistance in the face of great danger.

[The Composer]

::Applause::

Well done, ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies!

(And you, too, BlaM ;) )

[DiggitCamara]

Excellent final post! Excellent game, BlaM!

And congratulations town, especially Cookies!

I told you Kyrie was scummy... :D

[Captain Klutz]

Cookies, that was a truly epic piece of analysis. I had already exalted you for that - I think I'll exalt you again for securing the town win!

[dotchan]

Yay! Go town!

Now, back over to the clusterf*ck that NAF's game has turned into. :P

[USCDiver]

Woohoo!!! Town rocks!

[USCDiver]

I'm eager to read the Cult Board... they made some very questionable choices.

[FlyingCowOfDoom]

Go Cookies! I forgive you for killing me ;).

I am now 3-0 for Mafia games. w00t!

--FCOD

[Blaster Master]

Cult and Night action boards are open. Enjoy the read, you'll find there's a lot of fun stuff in there. The spreadsheet will take me a bit longer to get up.

[Captain Klutz]

One thing: if Queuing had been a non-believer, the winners would have been
Queuing
Mtgman
amrussell
Captain Klutz
Hockey Monkey

But since Queuing was a Believer, the winners are
Queuing
zuma [Ver. 1]
storyteller0910
Scuba_Ben
Hal Briston
MadTheSwine
SnakesCatLady
Hazelnutcoffee
fluiddruid
Fretful Porpentine
DiggitCamara [Ver. 2]
Zeriel
sachetorte
CatinaSuit
Pleonast
MHaye
FlyingCowOfDoom
USCDiver
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
Mtgman
amrussell
Captain Klutz
Hockey Monkey

So you can see that the town win is actually better, as there are more of us to join the celebratory party! (So much for the theory that a more exclusive win is better. Yes, you know who I'm talking about!)

Come to think of it, DiggitCamara and zuma will have to leave the party halfway through, as only one of their respective incarnations won. Don't forget to give a big hug to ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies before you go!

[USCDiver]

I can't get onto the Scum Boards, BlaM... it says I'm awaiting approval.

[FlyingCowOfDoom]

I can't get onto the Scum Boards, BlaM... it says I'm awaiting approval.Same here.

--FCOD

[Hal Briston]

Woohoo! Go Cookies! Go Town!!

Thanks much for running this one, Blaster!

And for completionists, the final voting spreadsheet (http://www.sirblah.com/misc/Sekham.htm) is up.

[MHaye]

I can't get onto the Scum Boards, BlaM... it says I'm awaiting approval.
Me too.

ETA : I can put down the smitehammer now...

Go Town!

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Yay!!!!!!!

All of this carnage in the name of religion...I think I'll remove myself from the Order and wander the world as a gypsy.

Great game everyone. I don't know if the balance was so-well conserved because of the original design or BLaM's reaction and adjustments to our many "incidents", or just sheer luck, but I think BLaM ran a great game. But I would like to start a collection to buy him the document software of his choice. Were you running this game entirely without making documents on the side the whole time? If so, you're a crazy, crazy man.

My hat is off to the Cult as well. There was some crazy shit, but y'all adapted extremely well.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

No scumboard access for me either.

[Blaster Master]

Yay!!!!!!!

All of this carnage in the name of religion...I think I'll remove myself from the Order and wander the world as a gypsy.

Great game everyone. I don't know if the balance was so-well conserved because of the original design or BLaM's reaction and adjustments to our many "incidents", or just sheer luck, but I think BLaM ran a great game. But I would like to start a collection to buy him the document software of his choice. Were you running this game entirely without making documents on the side the whole time? If so, you're a crazy, crazy man.

My hat is off to the Cult as well. There was some crazy shit, but y'all adapted extremely well.

I do have a spreadsheet to keep track of players and post counts and Night actions and such, but other than that... I had nothing else. Does that count?

On another note... I forgot that I set the board to require login and that new members require approval... I approved everyone waiting, but I can't remember where the setting is, to turn it off, so give me a few minutes.

[Blaster Master]

Okay, registration now doesn't require my approval. Have fun!

[DiggitCamara]

Okay, registration now doesn't require my approval. Have fun!
The Night Action thread is still blocked for me, though...

[Idle Thoughts]

The password is yummymummy

[Santo Rugger]

BYAHH!!! Good game guys! :D

[Idle Thoughts]

This exchange with Hazelnut resonates with me, considering how Kyrie was able to similarly divert the wind from my sails when attempting to suspect him. As such, it seems worth noting. And guess what…it indirectly involves Idle. :D

There was one thing you missed that we all hoped you'd look at again hard.
You seemed to miss how, on Day Two's end, I put in the last vote for Kat, who turned out to be scum. So I risked myself on the Avatar...but that's not all. Kyrie was also voting for her at the time.

I feel had you remembered that, I wonder if you'd have probably thought that I'd never risk our own prophet on someone possibly being the Avatar. I like to think you would have.

[Blaster Master]

Oops... I forgot I put an extra lair on there just to make sure the Cult couldn't see it. You should be able to see it now.

[Idle Thoughts]

Great game. I had fun. I was surprised I lasted so long as scum. I didn't think I'd last a Day. Great work and job Cookies.

[DiggitCamara]

Great game. I had fun. I was surprised I lasted so long as scum. I didn't think I'd last a Day. Great work and job Cookies.
I'm still kicking myself for not taking out Kyrie the one chance that I got.

Still, no harm done. Great job, again, Cookies!

[FlyingCowOfDoom]

I'd also like to point out that we are the 2nd longest thread in MPSIMS history:

The thread "a" has 5,337 replies, and we have 4,304. Too bad we couldn't go that extra grand!

Good game, everyone!

--FCOD

[DiggitCamara]

And what were those (in)famous secrets you became aware of, Idle?

[USCDiver]

Oh come on y'all we can get another 1000 posts in game analysis...

[Blaster Master]

Oh come on y'all we can get another 1000 posts in game analysis...

Definitely. Ooh... or resurrection of zombies attack the town for more game?

[storyteller0910]

I'm still kicking myself for not taking out Kyrie the one chance that I got.



Can I kick you for that, too?

:)

Great game, all; I'm glad to have played (briefly) and watched (at great length).

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

There was one thing you missed that we all hoped you'd look at again hard.
You seemed to miss how, on Day Two's end, I put in the last vote for Kat, who turned out to be scum. So I risked myself on the Avatar...but that's not all. Kyrie was also voting for her at the time.

I feel had you remembered that, I wonder if you'd have probably thought that I'd never risk our own prophet on someone possibly being the Avatar. I like to think you would have.

I noticed it. I noticed it during people's commenting on noticing and reminding of commenting on it, but for whatever reason (ADD maybe? :D ), it never really raised any huge red flags for me. When re-reading Kyrie's post with the assumption that he was scum, it was obviously dropped to the floor. Like I said, I'm really glad I did the deep dive on Kyrie first. :D

[storyteller0910]

Like I said, I'm really glad I did the deep dive on Kyrie first. :D

<cackles>

I am twelve years old.

[DiggitCamara]

Can I kick you for that, too?

:)

Great game, all; I'm glad to have played (briefly) and watched (at great length).
Absolutely, join the fun.

I mean:

1. I suspected him on Day 1/Night 1
2. During Day 2 I even asked BlaM if I should send him my Night Kill right then
3. During Day 2 I added Hockey Monkey to my kill list
4. and.... ended up killing you?

Seriously, why the hell does my brain insist on screwing up its own decisions? :smack:

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Does Kyrie hate me now? :(

[Hockey Monkey]

I got a good laugh out of the night action thread. Especially night 6 when I blocked Kyrie because I thought he definitely WAS NOT the Prophet, and was purposefully trying to AVOID blocking the Prophet. Heh! I thought he was the Apprentice. See...scum you should have recruited me. ;)

[Idle Thoughts]

And what were those (in)famous secrets you became aware of, Idle?

Just that Hockey was blocking power roles (for town) while she was alive.

[Blaster Master]

Absolutely, join the fun.

I mean:

1. I suspected him on Day 1/Night 1
2. During Day 2 I even asked BlaM if I should send him my Night Kill right then
3. During Day 2 I added Hockey Monkey to my kill list
4. and.... ended up killing you?

Seriously, why the hell does my brain insist on screwing up its own decisions? :smack:

I think that was one of the key turning points in the game. The other really big one being the blown recruitment attempt of Fretful Porpentine. I think if either had gone through, it would have been difficult for the other side to recover.

[Idle Thoughts]

I got a good laugh out of the night action thread. Especially night 6 when I blocked Kyrie because I thought he definitely WAS NOT the Prophet, and was purposefully trying to AVOID blocking the Prophet. Heh! I thought he was the Apprentice. See...scum you should have recruited me. ;)

Thing is, that Night, we also tried recruiting Fretful, who was the Priest, so it wouldn't have made a difference anyway. :)

[Queuing]

So here is my question to all of you:

Why do I last so long? It seems to me to not be a good thing if you are a townie both times you have played the game, and made it to endgame both times.

[DiggitCamara]

I think that was one of the key turning points in the game. The other really big one being the blown recruitment attempt of Fretful Porpentine. I think if either had gone through, it would have been difficult for the other side to recover.
And, in retrospect, the mutual killing of the Crusader and the Prophet would have made a glorious Dawn post!

[DiggitCamara]

So here is my question to all of you:

Why do I last so long? It seems to me to not be a good thing if you are a townie both times you have played the game, and made it to endgame both times.
I don't know about that. I have yet to see scum that actually try to take out dangerous vanilla scum...

They are usually preoccupied with killing power roles, or people who haven't pointed their fingers at them, etc. etc. For instance, my first incarnation wasn't killed because I was suspected as a Crusader but ...


(snip)
but rather try for a kill, I'd suggest any of the following: DiggitCamera, CometotheDarkSide, SnakeCatsLady, MadtheSwine, Hockey Monkey or USCDiver.

None of them are/have posted much and what they have posted doesn't say much. None have been very strong or outspoken in their suspicions and none have fingered many people (that just sounds wrong), therefore I don't think much could be learned from any of the above's death and don't think it'd really leave any kind of trail to any scum.

The added bonus is, of course, one of the above might have a power role and that's another reason why they're trying to lay low. This I feel strongly about with Diggit and Cookies especially because they only seem to appear to vote yet don't say, in any of their other posts much, who they're suspicious of.
(snip)


In other words, the first time anyone said something about killing me, the gist of the argument was "well, he hasn't posted much and just voted". Me, I'd have gone after the first townie who'd gone for Kat, or maybe for the one townie who'd swung the tide against her. YMMV, of course.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

So here is my question to all of you:

Why do I last so long? It seems to me to not be a good thing if you are a townie both times you have played the game, and made it to endgame both times.

I asked myself this in M3, and during this game. And I also suspect it is for "not good" reasons. I seem to come across as scummy by default, I'm scatter-brained, and can have a tendency to be "fluffy". But since you're basically the antithesis of me, maybe our individual longevities have different causes...

[Blaster Master]

And, in retrospect, the mutual killing of the Crusader and the Prophet would have made a glorious Dawn post!

Indeed, I would have had a lot of fun with that. I liked to use this game as a bit of a creative outlet.

[Blaster Master]

I asked myself this in M3, and during this game. And I also suspect it is for "not good" reasons. I seem to come across as scummy by default, I'm scatter-brained, and can have a tendency to be "fluffy". But since you're basically the antithesis of me, maybe our individual longevities have different causes...

I don't really see how longevity is a bad thing. For instance, in your case here, Cookies, you're a power role, and making it so deep into the game before having to claim, and never getting Night killed could mean you did well. OTOH, by the cult deliberately choosing not to kill you, that might mean they didn't kill you because they never felt threatened by you. However, with your end game analysis there, maybe future scum will feel differently...?

As for Queuing, I think it's related to your style, that even if you do have a good idea, you ruffle a lot of feathers, which, in turn, makes it a lot of noise. Plus, both times you were known to be a vanilla townie from fairly early on. What's their incentive to kill you?

[Hal Briston]

Nearly forgot! Many of you aren't aware of what would have happened had I not been killed when I was.

One of the things that got me killed was the way I was bouncing off the walls, waiting for the sun to come up on Day 4 (note to self: singing Air Supply will get you killed, and with good reason). I was bouncing off the walls because I had *Big News*: 1) I was the Oracle, and 2) Hockey Monkey was, without a doubt, 100% certified scum!

Except, as it turns out, she wasn't.

That day, I wrote out An Oracle's Tale and posted it on my web page, making the URL available to anyone in the forbidden thread who wanted some spoilers. Much of this is very innacurate in retropect, but it's how it looked at the time:
Here's the deal -- In Post #1661 (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8781333&postcount=1661), Hockey Monkey roleclaims as the Alchemist. Had she left it at that, I'd have thought nothing of it. However she also stated that she hadn't been doing any blocking.

Funny thing, though...I was blocked on Night Two. Busted, HM!

I had wondered if possibly it was actually something to do with the secret role, and not HM, but Blaster cleared that up in Post #635 (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8726689&postcount=635): "if the Oracle is alive, they can infer that the Alchemist blocked them". So infer I did, and HM is looking mighty scummy to me.

Where I screwed up is in Post #1667 (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8781524&postcount=1667) where I asked her to confirm what she said (and which she did in Post #1668 (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8781559&postcount=1668)). I tried to cover it up (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8781587&postcount=1669), but I'm pretty sure that by just asking that question, I exposed myself as a power role to HM and the scum. Post #1667 did me in.

For my money, I'm guessing that Cookies is actually the Alchemist. She's keeping the heat on HM, so I guess she knows she's lying.

I'm just bouncing off the walls hoping that someone will pick up on that conversation that did me in. It looks innocuous enough, but the timing is just so bad. HM made that claim perfectly...there wasn't enough time for me to try and expose her then and there and still be sure the Priest would see it in time to protect me.

And for those keeping score at home, I had exactly one successful reading that I could've breadcrumbed -- I found a citizen (or, possibly, the Prophet) on Night one. Trouble is, I dropped no breadcrumbs about it. Anything that any of the players read into any of my posts is more a less a waste of time. D'oh.

And to add insult to injury, I found the Priest last night. :smack:
Man...if I hadn't have been killed that night, things would've gotten ug-lee. I'd have claimed Oracle and demanded HM be killed. After all, she was obviously scum. When she came up as being honest in her roleclaim (just a tad shady)...wow...thing's would've been very bad for me. :)

ETA: If anyone is interested, there is a little bit more info posted after An Oracle's Tale -- available here (http://www.sirblah.com/misc/oracletale.htm).

[Queuing]

I know I am....volatile. I tried to switch that in this game as I was unsure of how helpful it was to the town, but as we know I was unsuccessful. I was genuinely annoyed at Sachertorte, and truth be told, now that I have read the forbidden thread (not the scum boards yet though) I am more annoyed. The subs in this game pissed me off. It came very close to breaking the game, and the only thing that saved it was another action that came very close to breaking the game, that is Pygmy's errors. I know many of you probably think I was off base in some of my comments to sachertorte, and while I am sorry that he took them personally (something I can't imagine doing all you being just screen names you know?), I am not exactly sorry for saying them. ETA: I am more annoyed because he was still able and willing to follow along a lot in the forbidden thread. To me that is just bad form. If you still wanted to play the game why quit and hurt your team even more then you already had?

But the willingness of the scum to leave me alone, particularly when I had 2 of you scummy people nailed for a few Days in a row, just makes me wonder what I am doing wrong. Not until the end did I really think I was in any danger of being lynched, and I thought it was over when it was between Kyrie and myself as it was fairly clear (as demonstrated by the initial vote) that Cookies believed I was scum. So I suppose I am just looking for some sort of feedback for if/when I play again. Thanks.

[MHaye]

To whoever it was that asked me about Night Seven and my choice to investigate Sachertorte. I didn't want to answer that question at the time because the answer would have dragged BlaM in, and he could not say anything without confirming my claim. The reason is that BlaM picked up the wrong bolded name. I was investigating USCDiver.

He did offer to think of a way to make it right, and I declined on the grounds that the result I got gave me new information - information that made a lot of difference to my actions during Monkgate...

[DiggitCamara]

By the way, what was it that pissed off ArizonaTeach so much?

[Pasta]

Good game all. Sorry I had to step out so early. I've been watching closely since I left (and wishing I could have stayed!) I just moved across the country, and once things settle down (several months), I'd love to play again (of course, with a better feel for the time requirements of the game.)

[Blaster Master]

To whoever it was that asked me about Night Seven and my choice to investigate Sachertorte. I didn't want to answer that question at the time because the answer would have dragged BlaM in, and he could not say anything without confirming my claim. The reason is that BlaM picked up the wrong bolded name. I was investigating USCDiver.

He did offer to think of a way to make it right, and I declined on the grounds that the result I got gave me new information - information that made a lot of difference to my actions during Monkgate...

I have to say, I felt rather uneasy during that whole thing, because you shouldn't have been involved except for my screw up. I'm really curious how it would have turned out if you hadn't gotten involved.

[Blaster Master]

By the way, what was it that pissed off ArizonaTeach so much?

Before he left, I discussed things for him and it seemed to me that all he really wanted to say on the topic publicly was already said in thread, at least, that was the impression with which I was left. Thus, I would prefer to leave it up to his discretion if he's still out there watching.

[NAF1138]

Before he left, I discussed things for him and it seemed to me that all he really wanted to say on the topic publicly was already said in thread, at least, that was the impression with which I was left. Thus, I would prefer to leave it up to his discretion if he's still out there watching.


I do hope he will clarify. I feel like it is largly my fault he left. Him leaving is actually the only reason I didn't vote for Kat Day 2, I felt guilty that I had driven AZ away.

[Blaster Master]

I do hope he will clarify. I feel like it is largly my fault he left. Him leaving is actually the only reason I didn't vote for Kat Day 2, I felt guilty that I had driven AZ away.

Oh, I thought you didn't vote for her because, well... you were scum.

[NAF1138]

Oh, I thought you didn't vote for her because, well... you were scum.

Nope my plan would have been to pick up and vote for AZ again. But he left and I felt guilty.

[Idle Thoughts]

I know I am....volatile. I tried to switch that in this game as I was unsure of how helpful it was to the town, but as we know I was unsuccessful. I was genuinely annoyed at Sachertorte, and truth be told, now that I have read the forbidden thread (not the scum boards yet though) I am more annoyed. The subs in this game pissed me off. It came very close to breaking the game, and the only thing that saved it was another action that came very close to breaking the game, that is Pygmy's errors. I know many of you probably think I was off base in some of my comments to sachertorte, and while I am sorry that he took them personally (something I can't imagine doing all you being just screen names you know?), I am not exactly sorry for saying them. ETA: I am more annoyed because he was still able and willing to follow along a lot in the forbidden thread. To me that is just bad form. If you still wanted to play the game why quit and hurt your team even more then you already had?

But the willingness of the scum to leave me alone, particularly when I had 2 of you scummy people nailed for a few Days in a row, just makes me wonder what I am doing wrong. Not until the end did I really think I was in any danger of being lynched, and I thought it was over when it was between Kyrie and myself as it was fairly clear (as demonstrated by the initial vote) that Cookies believed I was scum. So I suppose I am just looking for some sort of feedback for if/when I play again. Thanks.

;) You read Night Nine yet fully at the scum boards? :p

I think you're a great player. You make things interesting.

[Idle Thoughts]

Strike that. I meant Day Nine.

[Fretful Porpentine]

So I'm dying to know -- what was the rationale behind trying to recruit me? (I haven't been able to access the scum boards.) In return, I bring you:

The Priest's Tale

I decided early on that I was going to try to outguess the scum rather than self-protecting. In retrospect, this may have been a mistake, but then again, it was more fun, and that's kind of the point, isn't it?

I self-protected on the first two nights, since I had no idea who was scum and who wasn't.

On the third night, I protected Hockey Monkey since she was the only lead I had.

The next day, after the Oracle was killed, I went into a flurry of note-taking and re-reading, trying to find the Apprentice. And I almost -- ALMOST -- got it right that night. My two top picks were SnakesCatLady and USCDiver, both of whom caught my eye when they "shouted out" Hal's name in apparent fluff posts shortly after he made his "Yo, Oracle, over here" post. SCL made several impassioned pleas for people to stop talking about Oracle / Apprentice stuff on Day 1, which made me think she might be the Apprentice; on the other hand, USCD made a couple of comments about how he wanted to wait for his scumdar to improve before he committed himself, which SCREAMED Apprentice to me. Then, too, USCD expressed moderate suspicions of MHaye at the end of Day 2 and reiterated them, much more strongly, at the beginning of Day 3, so I thought MHaye might be someone he had investigated overnight.

So I protected USCD, and damn, did I want to smash my head against the keyboard in the morning. I protected him on Nights 5 and 6, too, and when there was no kill on Night 6 I was SURE I had executed a successful block. (Which I had, in a sense, but I got way too cocky because I thought I knew what happened, and I was very wrong.)

On Night 7, I had a dilemma. USCD had made a post which made it clear that he did not know all the rules surrounding the Apprentice role, so I decided there was no way he was really the Apprentice. However, if I had blocked him, the scum might be under the impression that he was the Priest or Disciple instead, and try to kill him again. OTOH, I thought he was a citizen, and I figured we could lose a citizen more easily than we could lose a power role, so I decided to protect one of the exposed power roles. I didn't think the scum would go after the Martyr if they didn't know what he did, and I didn't think they'd go after the Disciple because they'd figure he would be self-protecting. That left Hockey Monkey and Zeriel. I went with HM because I was hoping to prevent a recruitment (I did not think the scum had recruited on Night Six, but I thought for sure they'd be thinking of recruiting the Alchemist now that there had been so much talk about it.)

I should, of course, have self-protected, but it hadn't even occurred to me that they might have tried to recruit me on the previous night. I knew for sure that they hadn't tried to kill me, since I hadn't been self-protecting, so I thought I was under deep cover.

So yeah, in retrospect I did almost nothing right, but at least I got to use my power for good :)

[MHaye]

I'm reading the scum boards right now.

It turns out that Idle noticed my player writeups on Night 5, and worked out what I was doing with them... then didn't believe that.

Thanks Idle. :p

[NAF1138]

So I'm dying to know -- what was the rationale behind trying to recruit me? (I haven't been able to access the scum boards.)
We thought we had you dead to rights as the apprentice. I don't remember why anymore.

[Mtgman]

I do hope he will clarify. I feel like it is largly my fault he left. Him leaving is actually the only reason I didn't vote for Kat Day 2, I felt guilty that I had driven AZ away.
I've had a few guilty twinges about it myself. In my world a joke's only funny if everyone laughs and a game is only fun if everyone has a good time. I've worried about some of these games, and mentioned it in the forbidden threads occasionally, but after the game I've never seen any continuing hostilities. Maybe I'm just missing it and some of the players who don't re-up for the next game actually do have hard feelings. That would bother me.

Enjoy,
Steven

[Scuba_Ben]

*applause*

Bravo to all, well played. And thanks very much to Blaster Master for running the game.

[Idle Thoughts]

I'm reading the scum boards right now.

It turns out that Idle noticed my player writeups on Night 5, and worked out what I was doing with them... then didn't believe that.

Thanks Idle. :p

Very welcome! :p

It's not that I didn't believe them, per se. I just had a lot of other better (but wrong) suspects at that time. :smack:

[MHaye]

Very welcome! :p

It's not that I didn't believe them, per se. I just had a lot of other better (but wrong) suspects at that time. :smack:Yes, that did seem to be true.

I decided to use them as breadcrumbs on the principle enshrined in "The Purloined Letter." I hoped it would be so obvious that no-one would think of it.

You know how close you came to me doing what you wanted? I investigated Kyrie on Night 9. The failure was due to the interference of our Alchemist (for which she has been duly smote). Otherwise I would have been proclaiming him Believer in Day 10.

The fact that he would then have been the top of my two-man list of candidates for Prophet may or may not have meant anything. Then there was the 30% chance that blocked me reading USCDiver on Night 12, which (along with the killing bit) helped your evil plan.

[DiggitCamara]

I've had a few guilty twinges about it myself. In my world a joke's only funny if everyone laughs and a game is only fun if everyone has a good time. I've worried about some of these games, and mentioned it in the forbidden threads occasionally, but after the game I've never seen any continuing hostilities. Maybe I'm just missing it and some of the players who don't re-up for the next game actually do have hard feelings. That would bother me.

Enjoy,
Steven
You're absolutely right about that. That's why I called Omi no Kami on it in M3, and why I applaud NAF's intervention in your little scuffle over in the Firefly game.

Brewha actually mentioned Queuing in his farewell thread as one of the reasons he wanted to quit the boards (luckily, brewha reconsidered).

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

That reminds me. I completely forgot to crack a "strange, incompetent, & unhelpful" joke during my little research project. :smack:

[DiggitCamara]

That reminds me. I completely forgot to crack a "strange, incompetent, & unhelpful" joke during my little research project. :smack:


You mean like this one? (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8696770&postcount=2426) :p

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

I completely missed the signifigance of that post. I remember reading it and clicking the first link, and looking around at the Morning Crescent thread, but I must've gotten distracted before I got to the second link. :(

[DiggitCamara]

I completely missed the signifigance of that post. I remember reading it and clicking the first link, and looking around at the Morning Crescent thread, but I must've gotten distracted before I got to the second link. :(
See? It was a "strange, incompetent, & unhelpful" joke :D :p

[Queuing]

Brewha actually mentioned Queuing in his farewell thread as one of the reasons he wanted to quit the boards (luckily, brewha reconsidered).

So he did, and he didn't even tell me about it! I mean if I am going to be used as the ONLY example for someone quitting the dope it would have been nice to know.

For the record, I have had a few dust-ups with people here. One or two of them have PM'd me or I them. In all of these incidents I don't hold them against anybody, or frankly even remember them outside the game. I will admit that the Sachertorte one was, IMO, the worse of them and much of that was the frustration I felt towards the number of subs and the people who went on vacation for extended periods of time during the game. I feel that doing so is very irresponsible. We all put a lot of time and effort into this game. It is well known that it takes a LONG time to play one of these games. Quitting or taking vacations in the middle of it with the excuse "I expected to be dead" is basically taking advantage of and cheating all of the rest of the players. I do not find that acceptable. That is the reason for my anger felt towards sachertorte and his subsequent quitting of the game.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

Kyrie really does hate me. *sniff*

[Mtgman]

You're absolutely right about that. That's why I called Omi no Kami on it in M3, and why I applaud NAF's intervention in your little scuffle over in the Firefly game.

Brewha actually mentioned Queuing in his farewell thread as one of the reasons he wanted to quit the boards (luckily, brewha reconsidered).It's hard to tell when genuine feelings are involved and when they aren't. For example, many of the same attitudes storyteller0910 has shown there are the same as he was showing on Day 1 here. Talking about it being personal and having high frustration levels, etc. In his funny story he said this was playacting. He has never said anything to me outside of a context where it could be considered playing to the audience about being offended by my behavior. I'd hope he'd take it to PM or email if I'm bothering him instead of airing it in the game, where it could both cause extra tension for other players and be misread as playacting.

Enjoy,
Steven

[Kyrie Eleison]

Kyrie really does hate me. *sniff*
Nah, not at all, despite the fact he wishes he'd killed you that last night. Good game, town, well played, and that goes double or more for you, Cookies.

Sorry, scum, I chose, er, poorly. At the time, I thought it would be too much to ask USCDiver to swallow that Queuing had killed the only player who didn't want to vote for him the previous day, and I was pretty sure that if I killed Queuing, Cookies would have voted for me over USCDiver. Where's the fracking undo button?

Thanks, Blaster, for running the show.

[Stanislaus]

Wow. Well done Cookies. Coming back after a holiday and reading that was quite a rollercoaster!

Thanks to all, and especially BlaM for hosting.

[USCDiver]

Sorry, scum, I chose, er, poorly. At the time, I thought it would be too much to ask USCDiver to swallow that Queuing had killed the only player who didn't want to vote for him the previous day, and I was pretty sure that if I killed Queuing, Cookies would have voted for me over USCDiver. Where's the fracking undo button?

Well, I thought that I was pretty clear in posts 4108 and 4117 that Queuing was my first choice, but I'm not sure how I would have reacted if I had been left alive after being so explicit in my suspicions.

Regardless, your voting record against Kat so early in the game (knowing you were the Prophet) was pretty compelling to me and much easier than going back through all your posts a la Cookies. So you probably would have been safe with me.

As much as I would have liked to have been the final decision maker, I was happier to have won as a Vanilla Townie!

Reading through the Cult Board, I was very surprised with how easily the Cult was discouraged in the middle of the game. I think they were so bummed by the failed Conversion attempt that they forgot to 'think like town' and realize that we were all still scared shitless that it had already happened successfully and spent a lot of energy trying to figure out who it might have been. Also I had been waiting for the 'You've been Converted' PM from about the middle of the game all the way until I was killed because I thought I would have been a good candidate. Looks like y'all had at least considered it at some point.

Anyway, thanks Blaster Master for letting me continue playing despite so many times I had to leave town and for maintaining a perfectly balanced game in the face of so many subs, flame outs, and player fuckups.

[DiggitCamara]

Nah, not at all, despite the fact he wishes he'd killed you that last night. Good game, town, well played, and that goes double or more for you, Cookies.

Sorry, scum, I chose, er, poorly. At the time, I thought it would be too much to ask USCDiver to swallow that Queuing had killed the only player who didn't want to vote for him the previous day, and I was pretty sure that if I killed Queuing, Cookies would have voted for me over USCDiver. Where's the fracking undo button?

Thanks, Blaster, for running the show.
BTW, somewhere in the scumboards you said something like "well, if NAF were to admit he's scum, diggit's reaction would be to vote for me". Made me laugh.

Still, vote Kyrie! :D