Gettysdope IV: The Quest for Peace

[MsRobyn]

Yes, kids. It's that time. After the runaway success of the previous three extravaganzas, we're gearing up for number four.

In the past, we've discussed having this in September. The weather is better, for one thing, and we're not competing as much for our picnic pavilion, nor are we having to deal with tourists. danceswithcats and I are reasonably sure that we all decided that September 15 works out best, because it doesn't interfere with the Jewish high holidays.

Now that we're a lot closer, we should start planning this.

Robin

[twickster]

I'm in. (Duh!)

[BiblioCat]

I'm in!

[Captain Carrot]

If I can get a ride from college to my parents' house, I might be able to make it, but I kind of doubt it.

[neutron star]

I'm a tentative. If my shyness didn't get the best of me so often, I'd be a definite.

But hell, Dopers are good people, and I've only ever met one in the seven-and-a-half years I've been here, so I could perhaps be persuaded.

What are the protocols like on these Dopefests? Mainly hanging out and talking? What's the experience like?

You're supposed to bring a dish, right? I'm a stereotypical frozen-dinner-bachelor with zero culinary skills, but I'm sure I can pay a visit to good old Mom and bribe her into fixing up something nice. :)

Thanks for any answers to these questions.

Also, I do think that September is a great idea. (Well, I do the scheduling at my job, so any date would be fine, but I like the cooler air/fewer tourists thing.)

[neutron star]

(P.S. Is beer allowed?) :D

[twickster]

The drill: a potluck cookout, and lots of hanging out and talking. There might be juggling, kite-flying, or other low-key activities, but nothing too organized. Sometimes card games break out -- AntaresJB has been known to bring her guitar -- Jayjay usually brings his knitting -- there's a book (movie, CD) exchange -- there are usually a decent sprinkling of kids.

But mostly it's hanging out, talking, eating, and drinking -- mostly non-alcoholic beverages. We gather in a G'burg city park, where alcohol is prohibited. I'm not going to say that no alcohol has ever been consumed at one of these, but it's not usually the main point.

And yes, everyone brings something -- but "something" can also include drinks, ice, plates and utensils, or a couple of bags of chips, so you don't necessarily need to exploit your mom.

[Tranquilis]

Maybe.

Have to see when the National Sheep Dog Trials are being held - If it's the same weekend, I'll be busy, though still at Gettysburg.

[norinew]

We're in! I'm marking my calendar.
Don't know what I'll bring yet. The meatballs went over well last year.

neutron star, yeah, really low-key, mainly talking and hanging out. Sometimes small children wallow in the mud for our amusement. ;)
As far as beer, technically, alcohol is not allowed in the park. However, certain Dopers, at certain times, have been known to bring unidentified beverages into the park in, say, insulated mugs. What would absolutely not be welcomed (as I'm sure you know) is any obnoxious behavior that would draw negative attention to us. Not saying you would do this, of course, just kinda pointing out the obvious.

It's actually a lot of fun, and you should come!

[TwoTrouts]

I'm in. Really!!!!!! I will be there this time!!!!!!

[twickster]

I'm in. Really!!!!!! I will be there this time!!!!!! :dubious:


:p

[Triskadecamus]

I'm coming.

Not sure about kimche this year.

So, has anyone arranged for a goat?

Tris

[Mama Tiger]

Sounds fun! That date should work for us. Papa Tigs and I will put it on our September calendar.

Can we bring two well-behaved dogs, who will be on leashes the whole time, obviously?

[BiblioCat]

I'm a tentative. If my shyness didn't get the best of me so often, I'd be a definite.

But hell, Dopers are good people, and I've only ever met one in the seven-and-a-half years I've been here, so I could perhaps be persuaded.

What are the protocols like on these Dopefests? Mainly hanging out and talking? What's the experience like?I've been to a couple DopeFests, but this will be my first GettysDope. Yes, the other DopeFests are mainly hanging out and talking. They're fun. It's a chance to meet new people and have a nice afternoon.


twickster, I have a whole pile o' books for a book exchange. When I moved, I was weeding out the stuff I didn't want and danceswithcats told me to make a stash for GettysDope.

[MsRobyn]

I'm coming.

Not sure about kimche this year.

So, has anyone arranged for a goat?

Tris

It's not Gettysdope without the kimche. Just get a small jar; a little kimche goes a very long way.

Robin

[jayjay]

It's not Gettysdope without the kimche. Just get a small jar; a little kimche goes a very long way.

Robin

No, no...it's "A little kimche makes people go a very long way. Away."

Count supervenusfreak and me in.

[BiblioCat]

I've heard stories about the kimche.

I am very afraid. :eek:


;)

[MsRobyn]

I've heard stories about the kimche.

I am very afraid. :eek:


;)

Nah, the kimche is pretty much kept downwind.

Robin

[jayjay]

Nah, the kimche is pretty much kept downwind.

Robin

It's keeping the kimche-eaters downwind for the next few hours that's the trick...

[MsRobyn]

It's keeping the kimche-eaters downwind for the next few hours that's the trick...

Oh, like we have any of those. :dubious: :p


;)

Robin

[Roland Orzabal]

Y'know what? Hell with it. This year, I'm in. Plans shall be made. Hammered chicken shall be brought.

Captain Carrot, you're at VT, right? If you can hop the Valley Metro (http://www.smartwaybus.com/) to Roanoke, you've got yourself a ride. Email or PM me if you're interested. :)

I look forward to meeting you fine folks!

[danceswithcats]

Y'know what? Hell with it. This year, I'm in. Plans shall be made. Hammered chicken shall be brought.
I'm looking forward to meeting this chicken with a drinking problem. ;)

Monday I shall go meet the nice gray haired park lady and make sure that we have a pavilion for the 15th, and will follow with a confirming post.

Please indicate in your posts what you're bringing, and how many are in your party. A running list will be displayed near the top of each page as the thread progresses.

A directions post will be forthcoming on the weekend before, as well as mappy links.

Anyone wishing to stay overnight before and/or after is urged to make reservations ASAP. Oodles of touristas come to Gettysburg, and I think that by 15 Sept Gettysburg College will be back to business and most of the parent units will have fled, but there's no guarantee regarding room availability. This isn't a town where you can cruise in and expect to find a bed.

Have questions? Ask. I'll have to check the rules regarding critters.

Yay, kimche. :D

Rather than mess with success, jalapeño chili and chipotle with adobo chili will be brought.

[norinew]

I'm coming.

Not sure about kimche this year.

So, has anyone arranged for a goat?

Tris

Why not just bring the same kimche no one ate the previous years? :p

As for the goat, we don't know if it's okay to bring critters yet. We'll see what dwc finds out about the dogs, and assume it will also apply to goats.

[twickster]

I'm pretty sure dogs are okay -- didn't Rock and Roach bring hers two years ago?

What I'll bring -- seems like last year we had plenty of food, but ran low on water and soda, so I'll bring ... water and soda. And a cooler with ice to keep it in.

[twickster]

This is the perfect venue to do some bubble freezing (http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howtos/a/aa012004.htm) -- and Dopers are the pefect geeks to get into it. dwc -- would you have any ideas about where to get dry ice?

[rockle]

Ooooh! Ooooh! I think I'm in. I already have it pencilled in on my calendar, so at this point I plan to be there.

So: what do you want me to bring? I keep threatening to bring pierogie casserole, but I don't know whether it will keep warm all the way from my house to Gettysburg. I can try, though.

Also, it will probably just be me -- hubby is a lurker and his people skills need work. So if anyone is from anywhere around me and you're interested in carpooling, let me know.

[Scuba_Ben]

I'm in!

I'll try a pasta salad, and I also have a recipie for an olive egg salad.

I have the Gunfighter DVD collection from last year and books from someone else's book swap.

I also have room to bring other NoVA / I-270 corridor people. Speak up in-thread or contact me directly.

I'll bring my usual travel game kit. I may even be persuaded to try moderating a game of Mafia. (No way in heck I'm going to play in one!)

Neutron star, if you enjoy our company on-line, you'll enjoy our company at a DopeFest. We'd be glad to have you!

[DocCathode]

I'm in if I can get a ride.


Ooh, bubble freezing!

[Mama Tiger]

If we have a pavilion, does that mean we could bring something in, say, a crockpot that is hot food? Because Papa Tigs makes some wonderful dishes that are best served hot.

And thanks for checking on the dogs. If there are kids there, even better -- they both love kids. (A yellow lab and a golden retriever.)

[twickster]

Yes, pavilion means electrical hookup -- dwc chilis are served thusly.

[GingerOfTheNorth]

We may attend. We = the kids and I and perhaps Dave if he doesn't have to work. It may also depend upon attendance of animals in the actual pavillion, due to my allergies and not having anything that actually works against them, that will allow me to drive.

[supervenusfreak]

Looking forward to it! Heck I may even bring along bacon salt! :D

Pasta salad, brownies, fruit salad, and maybe another baked goodie or two...

[RTFirefly]

Put me down as probable. I'll bring my Martian Coasters set if I show.

[norinew]

Looking forward to it! Heck I may even bring along bacon salt!
Ooooh, do it, do it, do it! Please? Pretty please?

bacon, bacon, bacon, bacon!

[rockle]

... bacon salt!
¿Que? And more importantly: PLEASE!

[Tristan]

I will have to discuss this with the wife, and consult some maps. I have no idea how far from Gettysburg I am, being northeast of Pittsburgh.

I am intrigued. Lots of name brand Dopers.

[jayjay]

I will have to discuss this with the wife, and consult some maps. I have no idea how far from Gettysburg I am, being northeast of Pittsburgh.

I am intrigued. Lots of name brand Dopers.

Mapquest (http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1ffi=&1l=&1g=&1pl=&1v=&1n=&2ffi=&2l=&2g=&2pl=&2v=&2n=&1pn=&1a=&1c=vandergrift&1s=pa&1z=&2pn=&2a=&2c=gettysburg&2s=pa&2z=&r=f) says it's about 3 1/2 hours.

[danceswithcats]

This is the perfect venue to do some bubble freezing (http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howtos/a/aa012004.htm) -- and Dopers are the pefect geeks to get into it. dwc -- would you have any ideas about where to get dry ice?Once the date is confirmed, I'll seek a supplier.

[twickster]

Once the date is confirmed, I'll seek a supplier.
Yay! The second I heard about bubble-freezing, my very first thought was "Gettysdope!"

[TwoTrouts]

Once the date is confirmed, I'll seek a supplier.

I can get dry ice from my supplier at work. How much do we need?

[BiblioCat]

.... bacon salt! :D
Yes, please bring bacon salt!

[engineer_comp_geek]

I'll be there with my usual assortment of burgers and dogs.

Mrs Geek and the 3 Geeklings will be there as well.


Mapquest (http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&un=m&cl=EN&ct=NA&rsres=1&1ffi=&1l=&1g=&1pl=&1v=&1n=&2ffi=&2l=&2g=&2pl=&2v=&2n=&1pn=&1a=&1c=vandergrift&1s=pa&1z=&2pn=&2a=&2c=gettysburg&2s=pa&2z=&r=f) says it's about 3 1/2 hours.

Not if you take that route. 30 is SLOW and twisty and when it's not twisty you are slowing down to go through every little town 3 house town along the way.

Your best bet (IMHO) is to take 76 to 70 (towards Baltimore) then cut up 15 N at Fredrick to get to Gettysburg.

ETA: 3 1/2 hours is probably about right as long as you don't follow mapquest's crappy directions.

[supervenusfreak]

LOL. Somehow I knew that I would be bringing it along.

I ordered the bacon salt last week. It should be here before then. I plan on trying it in a few dishes. Hopefully I will find a tasty picnic appropriate dish for then, and bring along extra for others to taste and enjoy!

Wow! the freezing bubbles idea sounds like a lot of fun!

[AntaresJB]

I'm so there, as long as it's on the 15th. I put in for that day off at work several months ago. I call dibs on the lazy-person's contribution of paper plates, plasticware, napkins, etc. I so don't cook. I will also bring my guitar, and a massive pile of books for the book exchange, since a co-worker dumped a bunch of romance novels on me and I am through reading them (most of them are, frankly, not that great. But free!).

[danceswithcats]

Bad news, kids. I called the park office this morning, and the 15th is booked. So is the weekend of the 8th, and the weekend prior is Labor Day. August 25th is the Saturday before that, and pavilions are available.

What would y'all like to do?

[twickster]

The reason for moving to September was that people wanted cooler weather -- August 25th is definitely still summer.

What about Sept. 22nd? I realize that's Yom Kippur -- how many people would be unable to attend then? Is that number greater or smaller than the number who don't want to do August 25th?

[DocCathode]

Scuba Ben and I observe the Jewish holidays, so Yom Kippur is out for us.

[MsRobyn]

I'd be out if it's Yom Kippur, too. What about something in October? I know it'd be cooler, but it's not bad and there'd be some nice fall foliage.

Robin

[Tranquilis]

I checked the dates - The 22nd is during the sheepdog trials finals. I'd be in the area, but distracted.

October is good.

[rockle]

October is good for me, too. Better pierogie casserole weather, anyway.

[jayjay]

October would be good for us. It's spaced out enough from Labor Day that there shouldn't be any scheduling friction here.

[Scuba_Ben]

October is a maybe for me, it depends heavily on scheduling beyond my control.

[AntaresJB]

Sept 22nd will definitively not work for me (nor will the 29th, although it wasn't mentioned). I could do August 25th. As for weekends in October I'm free on the 6th and the 20th, theoretically.

[Mama Tiger]

Those other September dates are out for me. As for October, I'm good for any Saturday except the 20th.

[Triskadecamus]

I am available for the August 25th date.

I am out of it for the entire month of September.

October? Meh. Who plans that far ahead? Probably hard, but not out of the question.

Tris
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"We better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night, mostly." ~ Newt, Aliens ~

[norinew]

October would be better for me. We will be out of town (in a different direction) the last weekend of August.

[Anita Vacation]

I think an October Gettysdope would be lovely and seems to be getting positive responses here. Put me on the bandwagon for any weekend in October.

Woohoo!

[supervenusfreak]

Early October sounds like a wonderful time for a Gettydope!

[Roland Orzabal]

I don't care, and the further in the future it is, the more time I have to plan for it, which doesn't mean that I'll begin preparing before the last possible moment, but I could.

October, then, would be lovely.

[TwoTrouts]

An October date would work very well for Debbie and me. It is a beautiful time of the year in this area!

[The Mad Hermit]

I'm going to try to make it there this year. I need to get out more...

[RTFirefly]

AFAICT, my October calendar is blank. And no reason I can't do Aug. 25, if it comes to that.

[danceswithcats]

Inasmuch as the majority has spoken, I will call the nice park lady in the AM and query availability of 6 Oct and 13 Oct. News tomorrow, kids.

[danceswithcats]

I've got the permit right here on el-desko so we are good to go. For those of you with great memories, we're back where it all began with Gettysdope I, at the Kiwanis Pavilion. For those of you with shorter memories, we're at the one closer to the parking lot than where we were last year, which was the Lion's Pavilion.

We can use the place from 1000 until dusk, and I've got no clue when that is for early October. A sign will be posted proclaiming Cecil Adams as the authorized group.

Critters are permitted-no statement about leashes, but anything they deposit is the owner's responsibility to manage.

Inasmuch as we had no firm date until now, I'm going to begin logging who, what, and how many starting with this post forward.

Speak now, or forever hold your pieces. :cool:

[BiblioCat]

Like I said, I'm in.
Can I get a ride with you?
;)

[supervenusfreak]

We're in! :D

[AntaresJB]

Yay! I can come. This may be my last Gettysdope, so I would have been very sad if I couldn't make it. (I may be moving to Orlando in November-ish or later.) But I can. And, as I said up-thread, I call the person-who-can't-cook's contribution of dining implements such as paper plates and plastic-ware. And nametags, since it's tradition. :)

[Mama Tiger]

October 6 should be great! Count on two humans and two four-legged family members. All deposits by said four-legged family members will of course be promptly disposed of.

I have no idea what we'll bring at this point, but I'm sure it'll be yummy if Papa Tiger cooks it.

ETA: Dumb question: What park is it in, anyway?

[twickster]

Freakin' noobs. (It's a small city park not particularly near any historic spots. dwc will post full directions later, I'm sure.)

I'm in, and will be bringing beverages.

And dusk, since it's after the equinox, is definitely on the early side -- 5 or 6, I think.

[MsRobyn]

October 6 is on my calendar. We can hammer out the details later.

Robin

[rockle]

I'll be there. Maybe with a husband, maybe not -- definitely no critters. I'll bring pierogie casserole. Early autumn is an excellent time of year for that.

[norinew]

We're in for October 6th. Two adults (well, mostly adult), one teenage-type-person, one mudgirl.

[TwoTrouts]

Deb and I are in. I'll bring dry ice and some form of food (haven't decided on what yet).

[twickster]

Deb and I are in. I'll bring dry ice ....

Excellent! I'll bring the bubble stuff. (You do realize, of course, that as the bringer of dry ice, you'll be in serious trouble if you blow us off this year?)

[Boggette]

I'm having a picnic on September 15th, now that I know it won't clash with Gettysdope. We are about 1 hour or so from Gettysburg and offer an invite to those who can make it. Our house is in Schuylkill Haven. For those of you unfamiliar with the area, that's about 1/2 way between Harrisburg and Allentown and we're right off Route 78. Two exits away from the new Cabellas.

Directions for those who ask. Should be fun!

[Mama Tiger]

'So now I'm a freakin' noob, am I, Twicks? Hey, I can't help it if I've not been able to get to a Gettysdope before. grumble grumble... Just for that, I'll blow you a real-life raspberry when we get there! :D

[Scuba_Ben]

I'm in!

[danceswithcats]

Only a little over eight weeks remain, kids. This is what I have, so far:

The Official Who is Bringing What and Dopercount List - Gettysdope IV™


AntaresJB – paper plates, plasticware, and traditional nametags
jayjay, supervenusfreak –
Mama Tiger + 1 –
MsRobyn + ? –
norinew + 3 –
rockle + ? – pierogie casserole
ScubaBen –
twickster – beverages
TwoTrouts + 1 – dry ice, and undetermined food
danceswithcats, BiblioCat – jalapeño chili and chipotle with adobo chili

Corrections to the above, including updates on the size of your posse, and victuals being brought will be garnered from the thread, but if something is missed, holler. ;)

For those who need directions, worry not. The directions page from last year will be posted when we draw closer to the event, and for anyone who would like to purchase something nearby, there are two markets available-one a few blocks, and another a few miles away.

My cell phone number will be provided to anyone who emails to request same: danceswithcats@att.net

Anyone who plans on staying over should make haste to book a room. Email the above addy if you’d like help with that-distance from event, and other good stuff.

[Tranquilis]

I'm a little more likely now, but I do have a submissoin omin up in that general time frame. If you could hold Intaglio and I as possibles? Total of 4, including the rug rats.

[Morgyn]

Right now I plan to be there, but I still have to think of something to bring.

[Helen's Eidolon]

Maybe. And I am the worst guest ever because I'm not going to be able to RSVP for sure until the day before - I don't know yet how much work I'll have to do.

[Anita Vacation]

I plan on coming. I'll bring some kind of food and a non-doper friend or two.

[norinew]

I plan on coming. I'll bring some kind of food and a non-doper friend or two.
Yay! I haven't seen you in forever!

[twickster]

**bump** because it's only a month away.

[engineer_comp_geek]

I seem to have fallen off of the list since we moved the date. I'm bringing burgers and hot dogs, Mrs Geek, and the 3 Geeklings (not necessarily in that order).

[twickster]

I seem to have fallen off of the list since we moved the date. I'm bringing burgers and hot dogs, Mrs Geek, and the 3 Geeklings (not necessarily in that order).
Mmmm, I'm all about freshly grilled geekling.

[rockle]

D'oh! Bad news, guys. Well, good news with a bad result is more accurate. I won't be able to make this Gettysdope because I have a family wedding to attend. Sigh. I keep telling people to check with me before they make important life-changing decisions, but nobody listens.

Sorry I can't make it. Next time. I hope.

[jayjay]

*glares at rockle's sister/brother/cousin/aunt/uncle*

[Mama Tiger]

Bummer, rockle! What's wrong with people, don't they know what's important?

I need to confer with Papa Tigs about what we're bringing food-wise. We're going to be going on from the party to a friend's place in WV for the rest of the long weekend, so we'll definitely have the Idiots and will probably have to leave at a reasonable hour so we don't get lost in the wilds of WV trying to find their place. :eek: But knowing Papa Tigs, he'll probably throw something in the crockpot, so be prepared for delicious!

[rockle]

*glares at rockle's sister/brother/cousin/aunt/uncle*Bummer, rockle! What's wrong with people, don't they know what's important?Obviously not. I am seriously considering going all Jan Brady on them: "I wish I were an only child!" Harumph.

On the up side, the reception is advertised as "a karaoke party," and there's going to be beer, so I think I'm taking a video camera.

[Scuba_Ben]

On the up side, the <wedding> reception is advertised as "a karaoke party," and there's going to be beer, so I think I'm taking a video camera.Ooh boy, rockle, please post your video on YouTube!

[BiblioCat]

Sorry I can't make it. Next time. I hope.::: cries ::: :(

You better come next time. I was only coming because you were.
Well, that and because I go where danceswithcats goes. But still. I was looking forward to meeting you.

We'll save you some kimchee. :D

[supervenusfreak]

Lessee. Jayjay and I will be bringing a pasta salad, some brownies, perhaps some cold fried chicken, and......





Bacon Salt! :D

Looking forward to seeing all of you soon!

[BiblioCat]

Bacon Salt! :D
Yay, Bacon Salt! I know who I'm sitting next to!

[supervenusfreak]

Yay, Bacon Salt! I know who I'm sitting next to!


LOL. Guess I will order a three pack just for the Gettydopers! :D

[jayjay]

LOL. Guess I will order a three pack just for the Gettydopers! :D

Let's not get crazy, now!

[DocCathode]

I disagree. Let's get crazy. We're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy.

[norinew]

I will bring a plate of assorted sliced cheeses for slapping on burgers or just picking up off the plate and nibbling.

[rockle]

Let's not get crazy, now!I disagree. Let's get crazy. We're never gonna survive unless we get a little crazy.I'm with Doc on this one. Are we gonna let de-elevator bring us down? [sic, btw] Of course, I can't make it. So MMMV.

[Mama Zappa]

I'll be there with my usual assortment of burgers and dogs.

Mrs Geek and the 3 Geeklings will be there as well.




Not if you take that route. 30 is SLOW and twisty and when it's not twisty you are slowing down to go through every little town 3 house town along the way.

Your best bet (IMHO) is to take 76 to 70 (towards Baltimore) then cut up 15 N at Fredrick to get to Gettysburg.

ETA: 3 1/2 hours is probably about right as long as you don't follow mapquest's crappy directions.
Or stay on 76 all the way to the US 15 exit just southwest of Harrisburg, then take that south; a llttle less time on US 15, I think (though you'll hit 3-4 traffic lights). Not sure whether that's shorter or longer than doing 76 to 70.

I concur though, do NOT take US 30 the whole way. It may be scenic but...

Unfortunately we are NOT gonna make it. One of these years, though....

[danceswithcats]

The Official Who is Bringing What and Dopercount List - Gettysdope IV™


Anita Vacation + ? – Kinda food
AntaresJB – paper plates, plasticware, and traditional nametags
engineer_comp_geek + 4 – burgers & dogs
Helen’s Eidolon – maybe
jayjay, supervenusfreak – pasta salad, brownies, cold fried chicken & bacon salt
Mama Tiger + 1 – delicious something
Morgyn – undetermined
MsRobyn + ? –
norinew + 3 – slapping and nibbling cheeses
ScubaBen –
Tranquilis, Intaglio + 2 –
twickster – beverages
TwoTrouts + 1 – dry ice, and undetermined food
danceswithcats, BiblioCat – jalapeño chili and chipotle with adobo chili

Corrections to the above, including updates on the size of your posse, and victuals being brought will be garnered from the thread, but if something is missed, holler. ;)

For those who need directions, worry not. The directions page from last year will be posted when we draw closer to the event, and for anyone who would like to purchase something nearby, there are two markets available-one a few blocks, and another a few miles away.

My cell phone number will be provided to anyone who emails to request same: danceswithcats@att.net

Anyone who plans on staying over should make haste to book a room. Email the above addy if you’d like help with that-distance from event, and other good stuff.

[twickster]

I think you better scratch me from the list. I'm doing way too much driving these days (my base commute is 70 miles a day), plus I'll have been out of town the previous Friday through Tuesday. I can tell now I'm not going to want to get into the car and drive an additional 5 or 6 hours that Saturday.

Oh well ....

[MsRobyn]

I think you better scratch me from the list. I'm doing way too much driving these days (my base commute is 70 miles a day), plus I'll have been out of town the previous Friday through Tuesday. I can tell now I'm not going to want to get into the car and drive an additional 5 or 6 hours that Saturday.

Oh well ....

I'm sorry to hear that you won't be there. We'll miss you.

Robin

[BiblioCat]

What time do the festivities start?
Since it's been moved back to October, it will be getting dark earlier, and I'm guessing the park closes at dusk.

[norinew]

Oh, danceswithcats?? ::bats eyelashes in what norinew seriously hopes is a cute and flirtatious manner:: Would you please add one more person to the new posse? EtherealFreakOfPinkness is bringing a friend.

Thanks!

[Scuba_Ben]

There was a sale a couple of weeks ago, and I picked up several packages of Hebrew National hot dogs for Gettysdope. I'll also take a shot at potato salad.

[supervenusfreak]

I'm off to the market tomorrow to purchase supplies. Do we have a head count yet? :D

[supervenusfreak]

*scrolls up*

D'oh! As Emily Litella used to say, "Nevermind!"

See you all there next weekend!

[MsRobyn]

I just checked the Weather Channel, and it's supposed to be a balmy 76 degrees. However, they are calling for a 60% chance of rain.

Bring your umbrellas and ponchos, folks. And a sweatshirt, since it's supposed to go down to 56 overnight.

Robin

[danceswithcats]

NOAA is uncommitted regarding POP. Chili is still good, even if it's rainy out. :D

[MsRobyn]

NOAA is uncommitted regarding POP. Chili is still good, even if it's rainy out. :D

Chili is good, especially when it's rainy out!

I retract my earlier post. TWC is also being noncommittal about rain, claiming a high of 80 and partly-cloudy skies.

Robin

[AntaresJB]

I think you better scratch me from the list. I'm doing way too much driving these days (my base commute is 70 miles a day), plus I'll have been out of town the previous Friday through Tuesday. I can tell now I'm not going to want to get into the car and drive an additional 5 or 6 hours that Saturday.

Oh well ....

Awww. We'll miss you!

[Scuba_Ben]

It seems nobody's signed up for burger / hot dog rolls. I'll get those; how many will we need?

[danceswithcats]

http://www.gettysburgpa.org/images/PARKmap.pdf

Gettysdope directions

From Phila:
PA turnpike westbound to Gettysburg Pike US-15 exit (was I-17, now I-236), take US-15 south. Take ramp right onto York Street, US-30 west. Follow US-30 into the center of town to a circle. Go halfway around the circle, continuing to follow US-30, street name now Chambersburg Street. Go through the first light, and turn left halfway down the block onto Franklin Street, and proceed south. Franklin Street becomes Long Lane at Breckenridge Street, and the park is to your right. We’re in the Kiwanis pavilion, which is a block past the brick administration building on your right.

From Pittsburgh:
PA turnpike eastbound to Gettysburg Pike US-15 exit. After that, follow above.

From Washington:
I-495 inner loop to I-270 towards Frederick, MD. Follow US-15 north, into PA. Take exit for PA-134/Taneytown Road towards Gettysburg. At the traffic light where PA-134 crosses US-15 Business/Steinwehr Avenue, the name changes to Washington Street. Proceed north two blocks and turn left on Gettys Street, which will dead end at Long Lane. Turn left and then right opposite Queens Street into the parking area.

Park recon: Several ballfields, playground equipment such as swings, slides, and the like for kidlets. Three pavilions, called Kiwanis, Lions, and Firemen’s. The first two are located closest to Long Lane & Queens Street, with the latter a block North at Long Lane & Gettys Street.

For those who wish to purchase foodstuffs locally-there is a Kennies supermarket on Middle Street between West and Franklin Streets, less than ¼ mile away. Those folks using the Philly directions will pass a Giant supermarket on US-30 about a half-mile west of US-15.

[BiblioCat]

The Official Who is Bringing What and Dopercount List - Gettysdope IV™

Anita Vacation + ? – some kinda food
AntaresJB – paper plates, plasticware, and traditional nametags
engineer_comp_geek + 4 – burgers & dogs
Helen’s Eidolon – maybe
jayjay and supervenusfreak – pasta salad, brownies, cold fried chicken & bacon salt
Mama Tiger + 1 – delicious something
Morgyn – undetermined
MsRobyn + ? – ?
norinew + 4 – slapping and nibbling cheeses
ScubaBen – hot dogs and maybe potato salad
Tranquilis, Intaglio + 2 – ?
TwoTrouts + 1 – dry ice, and undetermined food
danceswithcats and BiblioCat – jalapeño chili and chipotle with adobo chili
If I missed anyone, or if anyone else wants to join in, please add your name.

Since twickster has dropped out, it looks like it's going to be BYOB as far as beverages go. No liquor allowed in the park, remember.
It looks like we need condiments for the burgers and dogs.

Festivities should be starting around 10:00 a.m; at least that's when danceswithcats and I will be getting there with the grill.
The park closes at dusk, and it's getting dark earlier, so our time is limited.

[Morgyn]

Ha! I can bring soda, juice, and maybe Gatorade or something like that. And another 3-pack of bacon salt, just in case.

What's the donation towards the pavilion rental?

[supervenusfreak]

Our new three pack of Bacon Salt arrived today! We will also be bringing along a case of bottled water too. :D

[BiblioCat]

What's the donation towards the pavilion rental?I knew I forgot something. MsRobyn paid for it this year, so everyone needs to give her a couple of bucks. I don't remember the exact rental fee - $35 or $40, I think?

[danceswithcats]

There was a sale a couple of weeks ago, and I picked up several packages of Hebrew National hot dogs for Gettysdope. I'll also take a shot at potato salad.
In PA, potato salad shoots back. ;)

[MsRobyn]

Since morgyn is bringing drinks, I guess I'll bring fruit and veggie trays. I can also pick up condiments.

Robin

[jayjay]

In PA, potato salad shoots back. ;)

Usually an hour or so after you eat it.

[Scuba_Ben]

In PA, potato salad shoots back. ;)
This batch did. So I'm not bringing potato salad; I'll bring lots of burger and hot dog rolls and ketchup/mustard/relish. My quick & dirty estimate: 40 burger rolls, 32 hot dog rolls? Condiments for 30?

Also, would anybody from the DC area like a lift? If so, let me know by PM or email.

[BiblioCat]

I will also be bringing some chips and pretzels - burgers and dogs need chips!

[BiblioCat]

Psst, Scuba_Ben, MissRobyn said she is bringing condiments. You two may want to figure out who will bring ketchup and who will bring mustard.

I'm really looking forward to this. My First GettyDope! :cool:

[Mama Tiger]

I've talked to Papa Tiger about what we should bring, but thus far we are undecided. Except it'll be something he can throw in the crockpot the day before to cook up, and then just heat up again when we get there. Probably some delicious Guamanian or Filipino dish; those are his specialties. I'll see if I can persuade him to fix adobo, that's the BESTest!

We can also bring a variety of diet soft drinks. And a big thermos of Louisiana coffee, for the coffee drinkers amongst us.

Are there directions from I-70? Since we're coming from Annapolis, we can avoid all the major metropolitan areas and just pick up I-70 west of Baltimore. But I'm not sure where that would fit in your various sets of directions.

[Scuba_Ben]

Psst, Scuba_Ben, MissRobyn said she is bringing condiments. You two may want to figure out who will bring ketchup and who will bring mustard.Duh, so she did.

[MsRobyn]

I was just going to pick up one of those "picnic packs" with one bottle each of mustard, ketchup and relish.

Ben, if you want to, you can pick up salt and pepper. You should be able to find those disposable shakers.

Robin

[engineer_comp_geek]

Usually I bring rolls and condiments with the burgers and dogs. You guys are making my job easy this year! Thanks!

Scuba_Ben, are you still bringing the Hebrew National dogs?

[Morgyn]

I've talked to Papa Tiger about what we should bring, but thus far we are undecided. Except it'll be something he can throw in the crockpot the day before to cook up, and then just heat up again when we get there. You might want to make sure it's reheatable on a grill. I don't think the pavilions have electricity. dances should know, though. He notices things like that.

[Scuba_Ben]

Scuba_Ben, are you still bringing the Hebrew National dogs?Kein.

I'll see what I can find for single use salt and pepper.

[norinew]

You might want to make sure it's reheatable on a grill. I don't think the pavilions have electricity. dances should know, though. He notices things like that.
They do. I brought something in a Crock Pot last year. dwc also usually brings his chili in a Crock Pot.

EtherealFreakOfPinkness just reminded me it's been a long time since I've made Crock Pot brownies (comes out a lot like chocolate lava cake), so in addition to the cheeses, I think I'll bring some of that, too.

[Anita Vacation]

Also, would anybody from the DC area like a lift? If so, let me know by PM or email.

Yes, me! Thank you very much. Check your email.

I still don't know what I'm bringing. What's missing from the list? Suggestions welcome.

[BiblioCat]

The weather forecast says sunny and a high of 83, so we should have a nice day.

[Mama Tiger]

Looks like we'll be bringing adobo, so that'll be the crockpot and the rice cooker. Do we need to bring a power strip, just in case?

[norinew]

Mama Tiger, if memory serves (and sometimes it doesn't), there are several outlets throughout the pavilion. Still, a power strip wouldn't be a bad idea. That way, if there are more appliances than outlets, we'll be okay.

We're all getting excited about Saturday. mudgirl is counting down ("Only three more sleeps til Gettysdope!")

[Scuba_Ben]

The weather forecast says sunny and a high of 83, so we should have a nice day.
Which probably means no mud puddles, much to Mudgirl's sorrow.

[Mama Tiger]

We could always pour a bunch of water on a patch of dirt. We have at least one dog who'll join mudgirl happily. :D

[norinew]

We could always pour a bunch of water on a patch of dirt. We have at least one dog who'll join mudgirl happily. :D
Oh, she'd be delighted! But anyone who was paying attention will remember, it was not a mud puddle, it was her pond! (So she kept insisting! ;) )

[Mama Tiger]

Then who's bringing the hose to wash mudgirl and muddog (http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m5/MamaTiger4747/Afterthewallow.jpg) off? :D

[Triskadecamus]

It's official. No Kimche this year.

I cannot get off. (Well, six weeks off last month seems to have used up my "Hey, can I get a day off?" credits.)

Sorry. Next year I will bring two different kinds of Kimche, I promise. (OK, why does my spell checker want to change Kimche to Chemise, or Cherubim?)

Tris

[norinew]

It's official. No Kimche this year.

I cannot get off. (Well, six weeks off last month seems to have used up my "Hey, can I get a day off?" credits.)

Sorry. Next year I will bring two different kinds of Kimche, I promise. (OK, why does my spell checker want to change Kimche to Chemise, or Cherubim?)

Tris
I'm surely not worried about the no Kimche, but no Tris? :(

[engineer_comp_geek]

Mudgirl managed to find that one little patch of mud in an otherwise dry park. It was warm and dry that day too, as I recall. If there's mud to be found, she'll find it.

(OK, why does my spell checker want to change Kimche to Chemise, or Cherubim?)

Even your spell checker doesn't like the kimche!

Sorry, had to get one last kimche joke in for the year. I'll have to save the rest up for next year. If you bring twice as much kimche next year can we make twice as many jokes about it?

Anyway, sorry you can't make it.

[norinew]

Mudgirl managed to find that one little patch of mud in an otherwise dry park. It was warm and dry that day too, as I recall. If there's mud to be found, she'll find it.
I really need to get her a T-shirt made that says "If there's mud to be found, I'll find it!" :D

[Anita Vacation]

The list looks like it's light on the fruits and vegetables side, unless I include the attendees. Har har har. (Sorry. Will have coffee and try to come up with a better one.)

[GingerOfTheNorth]

Heavy on the nuts, though.

I have no car for the weekend, mine is in the shop and my in-laws have returned from their vacation so theirs goes back to them today. Just as well, since i'll probably end up working anyway. Stupid job.

[Scuba_Ben]

Heavy on the nuts, though.

I have no car for the weekend, mine is in the shop and my in-laws have returned from their vacation so theirs goes back to them today. Just as well, since i'll probably end up working anyway. Stupid job.If you can persuade the job to go stuff it, there's got to be someone around here who can give you a lift. Anybody?

I didn't find salt and pepper in picnic-size containers. I'll check again tonight when I pick up buns.

[GingerOfTheNorth]

It's not just me, it's two extra people one of whom requires a car seat. And seriously, I will end up working Saturday, since Sunday is the Canadian Thanksgiving party and I'm NOT working then.

[MsRobyn]

Salt and pepper have been obtained. Fruit and veggie trays will be purchased tomorrow.

Robin

[BiblioCat]

The list looks like it's light on the fruits and vegetables side, unless I include the attendees.

Heavy on the nuts, though.
Speak for yourselves; I'm as normal as they come.
:p

[danceswithcats]

Are there directions from I-70? Since we're coming from Annapolis, we can avoid all the major metropolitan areas and just pick up I-70 west of Baltimore. But I'm not sure where that would fit in your various sets of directions.
I 70 does a very nice job of meeting US 15 at Frederick.

[danceswithcats]

Heavy on the nuts, though.
Been wondering why my gait has felt slow. ;)

[danceswithcats]

We could always pour a bunch of water on a patch of dirt. We have at least one dog who'll join mudgirl happily. :D
Apologies for not having clarified this earlier, PA dog law requires that unless on private property, the owner or handler must exercise control over the dog. A leash is recommended.

Given that we are sharing the park with others, my comments are offered as an advisory so everyone has an enjoyable experience.

[TwoTrouts]

Since I am bringing some dry ice up (I still do not know what it is for...), I will also be bringing something cold like ice cream sandwiches or popsicles.

[MsRobyn]

Since I am bringing some dry ice up (I still do not know what it is for...), I will also be bringing something cold like ice cream sandwiches or popsicles.

twickster had the idea of blowing bubbles onto the dry ice to freeze them and watch them shatter. Family fun for everyone!

I'll pick up some bubble solution, too.

Robin

[Mama Tiger]

No problem, dances, we always take the pups out on leashes. Maryland law -- at least in our county -- only allows them to be off-leash in designated off-leash areas or when "training." We do take Isaac off-leash to throw his toy for him to retrieve, since that is how we reinforce his good behavior, but that's only for that limited purpose and then he's right back on.

But there's nothing saying the dogs can't go into a mud puddle while leashed. Just try 'em. :D

[Cleophus]

Last minute, I know, but I had previous plans for this weekend that fell through recently. I will supplement Morgyn with the drinks.

I'll be giving DocCathode a ride to the fest. I can also give you a ride, twickster.

[twickster]

I'll be giving DocCathode a ride to the fest. I can also give you a ride, twickster.
Thanks! That's so sweet of you -- but I've made other plans.

[Green Cymbeline]

When is this? I have paged through the last two pages and cannot find the date! Is it tomorrow (10/6)?

How did I miss this thread? :smack: :smack: :smack:

I would really love to go, but if it's tomorrow, I can't :( If I had caught this thread earlier, I would have made plans to go!

:smack: :smack: :smack: I really don't know how I missed this thread!!

Anyway, y'all have a great time. I wish I was able to be there, I haven't been to Gettysdope in about 4 years!

[jayjay]

When is this? I have paged through the last two pages and cannot find the date! Is it tomorrow (10/6)?

How did I miss this thread? :smack: :smack: :smack:

I would really love to go, but if it's tomorrow, I can't :( If I had caught this thread earlier, I would have made plans to go!

:smack: :smack: :smack: I really don't know how I missed this thread!!

Anyway, y'all have a great time. I wish I was able to be there, I haven't been to Gettysdope in about 4 years!

It was three years. I think you were only at the first one and this is the fourth coming up. And it is tomorrow, yes.

[Green Cymbeline]

It was three years. I think you were only at the first one and this is the fourth coming up. And it is tomorrow, yes.
Yes you're right, it was 3 years ago, the first Gettysdope.

I am sad I will miss it tomorrow. I am kicking myself for not catching this thread!!

Have fun everyone, see you next year!!

[MsRobyn]

I have one tray each of veggies and dip and fruit sitting in my fridge, waiting for tomorrow.

I wasn't able to find bubbles, though, so if someone goes to Wal-Mart or somewhere similar, would you please be so kind as to get bubble soap?

Thanks,

Robin

[DocCathode]

I have no idea what to bring. I'm thinking of going with Russian honey cakes. They are something like gingerbread cookies. Have I brought any food that people actually liked?

[MsRobyn]

I have no idea what to bring. I'm thinking of going with Russian honey cakes. They are something like gingerbread cookies. Have I brought any food that people actually liked?

Bring bubbles.

Robin

[DocCathode]

I said FOOD. Foodstamps cover anything from minicheescakes to canned squid. But they don't cover bubbles.

[DocCathode]

I just remembered I have two thumb-sized jars of bubble solution from weddings. A quick check reveals they still work. So, I have two bottles of bubbles and two wands.

[DocCathode]

I'll be bringing some books and computer games. Anybody want a set of Risk and Castle Risk?

[Mama Tiger]

Okay, one more try with my really dumb question. I have reread the entire thread, read the directions carefully and looked at the .pdf map carefully, and the one piece of information lacking is: the name of the park. Does this mysterious place have an actual name, or is it just "the park in Gettysburg"? :D

Are we good for diet sodas? Because Papa Tiger is diabetic, so we only have (and drink) diet. If we aren't, we can bring some, and of course there will also be coffee and water. Just wondering.

[engineer_comp_geek]

Does this mysterious place have an actual name, or is it just "the park in Gettysburg"? :D

"The Gettysburg Area Recreation Park"
http://www.gettysburg-pa.gov/parks_recreation/pavilion_rentals.htm
We're in the Kiwanis Pavilion, aren't we?

[MsRobyn]

We're going to be minus a kid. Gramma has special plans for the sprog, so he's spending the weekend with her. Airman and I will still be there.

Robin

[danceswithcats]

Does this mysterious place have an actual name, or is it just "the park in Gettysburg"? :D

Yes. If signs indicate "Greensburg 10 miles" you've gone too far.

[danceswithcats]

I said FOOD. Foodstamps cover anything from minicheescakes to canned squid. Hey. These are your fellow Dopers, brother. Only live squid. ;)

[Scuba_Ben]

I'll be bringing some books and computer games. Anybody want a set of Risk and Castle Risk?I'll try to remember books and DVDs for the swap, some of which I picked up at last year's swap.

[Mama Tiger]

I noticed in that link that electricity for the pavilions has to be requested in advance. I really, really hope that it has been? Or is that just something they put in there to make people think that it won't work so they don't run up the city's electric bill unnecessarily? :dubious:

[DocCathode]

I hope we have electricity. I'm bringing a corded soldering iron.

Really.

[jayjay]

I hope we have electricity. I'm bringing a corded soldering iron.

Really.

Goody! Facebranding for the kiddies!

[DocCathode]

Nah, I'm just bringing along a project I need some geek help with. I need to find the shorts and insulate them, and I need to figure out why the blinking LED causes such a brightness drop in all the other LEDS and why that didn't happen last year and if using a number of batteries in series instead of one ninevolt will fix things.

[AntaresJB]

paper plates, napkins, plastic silverware and cups (couldn't remember if any of the drinky people were bringing cups so I got them anyway) have been purchased. Also nametags (we never use the whole pack of nametags, and yet I never remember to keep the leftovers for next year...). Will need to gather books to swap before bed... A girl from work gave me a massive bag of crappy romance novels a few months ago and I will be pleased to foist some of them off on unsuspecting Dopers. Muahaha.

Oh and guitar. That too.

[danceswithcats]

I noticed in that link that electricity for the pavilions has to be requested in advance. I really, really hope that it has been? Or is that just something they put in there to make people think that it won't work so they don't run up the city's electric bill unnecessarily? :dubious:Nah-we take turns, Gilligan style, pedaling the generator bicycle that the Professor built.

[supervenusfreak]

Nah-we take turns, Gilligan style, pedaling the generator bicycle that the Professor built.

Ahhh good! I was wondering how I was going to get my three miles in tomorrow.

[norinew]

Besides myself, there will be my hubby and my two younger kids; teen's friend had to bow out at the last minute.

In addition to a cheese assortment, I will bring the ingredients to make Crock Pot brownies, will mix them up when we arrive, and in 2 and 1/2 to 3 hours, we will have rich, warm, chocolatey loveliness!

We're leaving here around 9AM, quick side-stop in Hagerstown, then on to Gettysburg. We figure to arrive by 1PM. So I should be there with the cheese by the time everyone wants lunch.

[rockle]

... I will bring the ingredients to make Crock Pot brownies, will mix them up when we arrive, and in 2 and 1/2 to 3 hours, we will have rich, warm, chocolatey loveliness!I am sorry that I am unable to attend, but I would very much like to have this recipe when you get back.

[Mama Tiger]

We had a lovely time, all! One small request, however: Would the two ladies who requested recipes from Papa Tiger please contact me privately, either by email or PM? He needs some kind of address to send recipes to. :D

[GingerOfTheNorth]

Home, exhausted, thanks all!

[danceswithcats]

Great to see everyone again for another afternoon of hanging out with the usual suspects.

We successfully delivered all of the unclaimed books to the little family book store in New Oxford on the way back here. The proprietor came out to investigate two suspicious people mucking around the outdoor buck a book pile, and instead took the offerings inside. He's probably sitting there now rolling his eyes-Oy! Another bodice ripper book. ;D

[jayjay]

We had a great time and want to thank everyone for contributing to that.

MsRobyn, did you happen to remember to grab the How Things Work book before you left?

[BiblioCat]

... Crock Pot brownies...Can I have the receipe for this, please?

It was great to see everyone, and meet some new people. I'm glad MudGirl was able to find some mud.

AntaresJB, thanks for the private concert. You have a lovely voice.

As danceswithcats said, the leftover books were dropped off at the used bookstore and hopefully they will find a new home.

Looking forward to GettysDope V!

[norinew]

I am sorry that I am unable to attend, but I would very much like to have this recipe when you get back.
Okay, home, had a great time, but I'm exhausted. I can, however, take the time to post this, since it's so very simple!

1 box (about 20oz) brownie mix
Whatever ingredients the back of the box calls for
1C hot water
1C chocolate syrup

Mix up the mix as if you were going to bake brownies. Put it in a 4-6qt. slow cooker. Mix the hot water and chocolate syrup together, pour over the brownie batter; it will sink down. Cook on high for 2 and 1/2-3 hours. Especially good if you serve it very warm with a scoop of vanilla ice cream on top! :)

Okay, off to bed with me!

[MsRobyn]

We had a great time and want to thank everyone for contributing to that.

MsRobyn, did you happen to remember to grab the How Things Work book before you left?

I grabbed that and a book with film criticism by James Agee.

I'm sure the sprog will love the How Things Work. He's all about that these days. :)

Thanks for the book!

Robin

[GingerOfTheNorth]

I think my friend will like her cavewoman porn. I know I'm liking the cookbooks.

[engineer_comp_geek]

Pics are up.

http://home.comcast.net/~sokosfamily/dopefest2007.htm

[Scuba_Ben]

I got home last night just after 8, I was out like a light before 9:30.

It was great to see everybody again, we should have more Dopefests!

[BiblioCat]

More pictures! (http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p241/Betsey38/GettysDope4/?action=view&current=5fb077e8.pbw)

[jayjay]

Just a warning for future Gettydopers...danceswithcats makes sneaky chili. I was told it was the hotter of the two, but when I put it in my mouth it wasn't really very spicy at all. Then about 30 seconds later...FWWWWAAAAAHHHHH!

Sneaky chili.

[BiblioCat]

Just a warning for future Gettydopers...danceswithcats makes sneaky chili.
Yeah, he's sneaky like that. ;)

[Morgyn]

Speaking of sneaky chili, MsRobyn, did you wind up on the couch last night? How is Airman Doors feeling after the helping he had?

That was fun. The food was excellent and the company was better. Next year, fer sure!

[MsRobyn]

Speaking of sneaky chili, MsRobyn, did you wind up on the couch last night? How is Airman Doors feeling after the helping he had?

That was fun. The food was excellent and the company was better. Next year, fer sure!

Airman volunteered to sleep on the couch. Actually, I gave it up and went to bed, but he rather chivalrously decided to fall asleep on it after I went upstairs. He's just thoughtful that way. :D

Robin

[Morgyn]

For those who really, really liked the Adobo, I've discovered that Amazon.com sells the recommended-by-PapaTiger Mama Sita's prepackaged seasoning mix.

ETA: I've ordered several packages already.

[Mama Tiger]

I brought my camera, but it never left my knitting bag. :( I'm glad to see that, for a welcome change, there was not one photo of me stuffing my face. That's my usual picnic pose. Sigh.

I never thought to look on Amazon.com for the adobo mix. That's a good find, Morgyn -- the only place locally we've found to buy it is a little Filipino grocery store half an hour away. And heaven forbid we ever run out of adobo mix!

I also recommend the Mama Sita's tocino -- put it on thin-sliced London broil or some similar lean cut and broil. Yummy!!

ETA: And I'll second the sneaky chili vote -- although I only had the allegedly mild version, it snuck up on me that evening! :eek: