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bienville
11-11-2007, 09:22 PM
Greek word ( αιδοίον ) used in Art History: "aidoion"

If there's a difference between the proper Greek pronunciation and the pronunciation that would commonly be used in discussion of Art History, I would need the pronunciation used among English speakers discussing Art History .







Edit to fix typo

capybara
11-11-2007, 11:53 PM
Probably "eyee-daw-yun"-- since the o's are omicrons and not omegas, right? (Greek nerds, verify?) However, I would not call it "commonly used" in art history. It might be used in very specialist classical studies sometimes but it smacks of gratuitous jargon to me, especially since we have some perfectly cromulent English words to that effect. I've probably ever encountered it twice in my life, for what it's worth.

Quartz
11-12-2007, 10:26 AM
IIRC there are two possibilities, depending on whether the alpha is being used as a negative (though I don't recall a Greek word idoion or idoios) or you mean the word for genitalia.

If the alpha is a negative, it's a-id-oh-iy-on, otherwise, aye-doy-on. You can tell that the oi isn't a dipthong by its conjugation: aidoion, aidoia. Edit: sorry, that's wrong.
You should be able to tell that the ai is a dipthong by the location of the breathing and possibly accents.

Helen's Eidolon
11-12-2007, 10:49 AM
I looked up the word in my gihugic Greek dictionary - it's spelled ai)doi^on (how do you guys do Greek font on here?)

So it would be pronounced eye-DOI-on, and would mean genitals. Is this really a common word in art history?

Helen's Eidolon
11-12-2007, 10:52 AM
I googled it, and it's supposedly used by art historians and classicists. I'll tell you, in the 21st century, we classicists just say 'genitals' or 'phallus' or... well, we have dirty minds.

Quartz
11-12-2007, 10:59 AM
I looked up the word in my gihugic Greek dictionary - it's spelled ai)doi^on (how do you guys do Greek font on here?)

Symbol font + Charmap does it for me - αi-δοi-ον

Helen's Eidolon
11-12-2007, 11:16 AM
Symbol font + Charmap does it for me - αi-δοi-ον
But I can't figure out how to do it with the accents. There should be a smooth breathing on the first iota and a circumflex accent on the second.

Quartz
11-12-2007, 11:50 AM
Ah, you've got me with breathings. You're going to need a font like Athenian (http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~pinax/greekkeys/Atheniandownload.html) or New Athenian Unicode (http://ist-socrates.berkeley.edu/~pinax/greekkeys/NAUdownload.html).

capybara
11-12-2007, 12:51 PM
I looked up the word in my gihugic Greek dictionary - it's spelled ai)doi^on (how do you guys do Greek font on here?)

So it would be pronounced eye-DOI-on, and would mean genitals. Is this really a common word in art history?

Nope, it's not "common"-- maybe Greek sculpture specialists might use it among themselves if they're the type that likes that sort of thing, but it's not in the more general art history jargon in any case. Glad to hear that the Classicists don't roll like that, either.