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Ranchoth
02-03-2008, 11:04 PM
Okay, it's been awhile since we've had a good "versus" thread, so I figure it's high time for a new one: with everyone's favorite monster of the moment, Cloverfield (http://cloverfield.wikia.com/wiki/Monster) (aka "the Cloverfield monster" aka "Clovie" aka "Snookums").

In short, in an open challenge, what other giant monsters do we suppose he could take in a fight?

I'm thinking King Kong (he's got spunk, but he's also been repeatedly machine gunned to death in his various incarnations); the American "Zilla" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilla) (nuff said); and he probably has a fighting chance against the various Mechagodzillas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechagodzilla).

And, I haven't seen it in action myself, but I have a sinking feeling that Japanese Spider-Man's giant spaceship/robot (http://www.collectiondx.com/node/1227) might not do so hot. But that's just me.

Anyone else care to weigh in?

Sage Rat
02-03-2008, 11:12 PM
If he can be drowned, and the fight is in water, the Giant Squid from 20,000 Leagues could possibly win. I doubt the little guys could hurt the squid, and he didn't look like he'd be a great swimmer.

However, I doubt Snookums can be drowned, since it's most likely that he was hurtling through outerspace previous to landing.

He's also impenetrable to at least everything short of a direct nuclear strike--and possibly even that. And given that "Nuclear Stikes" are pretty well the strongest thing there is, if he's beyond that, there just ain't no beating him. He'd wipe King Kong across the floor.

Kythereia
02-03-2008, 11:35 PM
Do I dare say it...

Snookums versus Batman?

Just Some Guy
02-04-2008, 12:44 AM
I'm thinking King Kong (he's got spunk, but he's also been repeatedly machine gunned to death in his various incarnations); the American "Zilla" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilla) (nuff said); and he probably has a fighting chance against the various Mechagodzillas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechagodzilla).


I have to disagree with you on the Mechazillas. Snookums is cool but from what little we saw she falls in at the mid-range Kaiju class - giant beasts that do a lot of property damage and can't be hurt by puny humans but lack the real weapons of mass destruction. More intelligence or more destructive abilities could bump her up to the Zilla-class, but as it stands she's one of the monsters of the week that Ultraman lets get a few whacks in before he fires his "I win" shot.

VunderBob
02-04-2008, 07:44 AM
Chuck Norris could easily take Snookums...

Ranchoth
02-04-2008, 09:52 AM
More intelligence or more destructive abilities could bump her up to the Zilla-class, but as it stands she's one of the monsters of the week that Ultraman lets get a few whacks in before he fires his "I win" shot.

I can't speak for Ultraman, but I have to mildly disagree about the monster not being "Zilla" class—their sizes are seemingly comparable, but while Clovey/Snookums shows a good amount of invulnerability to conventional weapons, Zilla was slain by a missile strike to his/her flank, after getting tangled in bridge cables. The same bridge that, in Cloverfield, the monster tore through without much trouble.

The other monster lacked Zilla's flame breath, I'll grant, but Zilla didn't even seem to use it very often. All in all, I'd have to say that Snookums/Clovie was at least a rough class equal to Zilla.

(The parasites probably lose out to the juvenile Destroyah organisms, though)

shy guy
02-04-2008, 10:36 AM
This (http://io9.com/351419/whos-the-tallest-giant-monster) was on Digg the other day and seems relevant to the discussion.

Unless we're talking Godzilla vs. King Kong King King, King Kong is pretty tiny compared to most giant monsters. Also, King Kong.

Godzilla seemed pretty darn powerful in the last Godzilla movie I watched (Godzilla vs. Destroyah), so I'd tend to go with him in a fight vs. Snookums.

I agree that Ultraman takes down Snookums with no problem, as do the various incarnations of the Super Sentai teams/Power Ranges in their various giant robots. That goes double for Voltron.

BrainGlutton
02-04-2008, 11:16 AM
Cloverfield gets its biochronometer cleaned by the Planet Devourer! (http://galactanet.com/comic/312.htm)

ArizonaTeach
02-04-2008, 11:26 AM
I agree that Ultraman takes down Snookums with no problem, as do the various incarnations of the Super Sentai teams/Power Ranges in their various giant robots. That goes double for Voltron.Voltron gets his ass kicked five ways from Sunday until he pulls out his Flaming Sword. Which, if they had any brains, they would do at the start of the battles.

BMax
02-04-2008, 11:42 AM
This (http://io9.com/351419/whos-the-tallest-giant-monster) was on Digg the other day and seems relevant to the discussion.

Unless we're talking Godzilla vs. King Kong King King, King Kong is pretty tiny compared to most giant monsters. Also, King Kong.

Godzilla seemed pretty darn powerful in the last Godzilla movie I watched (Godzilla vs. Destroyah), so I'd tend to go with him in a fight vs. Snookums.

I agree that Ultraman takes down Snookums with no problem, as do the various incarnations of the Super Sentai teams/Power Ranges in their various giant robots. That goes double for Voltron.
I think Ultraman would have to fight him once, then the red ligth on his chest would start flashing, so he would have to take off into space, leaving Rodney Cloverfield to gloat and the people of Tokyo to cry in despair, except the one little boy who says "Ultraman will come back! He has to win. He just has to".

Hyata would brood, then find the secret to destroying the monster. Ultraman would return, armed with the secret to destroying the monster and defeat him in a battle that crosses the Hudson river. He would throw Snookums into the ocean and fly away into the sunset with the children cheering.

Larry Borgia
02-04-2008, 11:54 AM
Clovie is completely and ridiculously invulnerable. He could wear any non-invulnerable foe down, no matter how powerful that foe would be. If he fought another invulnerable creature the fight would have to be a draw.

I had to restrain myself from yelling at the screen after the scene with the B-2.

Scuba_Ben
02-04-2008, 11:55 AM
Do I dare say it...

Snookums versus Batman?
<Batphone rings.>
BATMAN: Yes, Commisioner?

GORDON: Batman, a 200-foot tall monster is rampaging through downtown Gotham. The SWAT teams can't even slow it down. It's up to you! I've uploaded everything we've got on the monster to your usual site.

B: I'll look it over, and get back to you in 15 minutes. <Muffled> Robin! Preflight the Batwing!

G: Thank you, Batman. <Hangs up>

<15 minutes later...>

<Batphone rings in the Commisioner's office.>
G: <Hopefully> Yes Batman?

B: Commisioner, the city is screwed. I'm packing up the Batcave and leaving town while I still can. I suggest you evacuate the city. <Hangs up.>

Scumpup
02-04-2008, 11:58 AM
Sin, of Final Fantasy X fame, would clean Snookum's clock. Even has Sin-spawn to independently deal with the little guys.
I also suspect that Omega Weapon, in any of its FF incarnations, could deal with Snookums right handy.

Slypork
02-04-2008, 12:21 PM
Mr. Rogers (http://www.ultimateshowdown.org/)

Don Draper
02-04-2008, 01:17 PM
Clovis (or Snookums or whatever) wouldn't stand a chance against this guy (http://www.bwog.net/uploads/staypuft-marshmallow-man.jpg).

athelas
02-04-2008, 02:22 PM
Clovie is completely and ridiculously invulnerable. He could wear any non-invulnerable foe down, no matter how powerful that foe would be. If he fought another invulnerable creature the fight would have to be a draw.

I had to restrain myself from yelling at the screen after the scene with the B-2.I know. Whereas most other monster movies show the defeat of the monster, and thus the limitation of its power, Clovie won throughout the entire movie. That pretty much makes any comparison meaningless, since we don't know the upper bounds of its power.

Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor
02-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Optimus Prime can take him.

devilsknew
02-04-2008, 06:37 PM
How would you HP Clover? He has 70 known points of articulation (Hasbro Action Figure ( http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?ID=21030&BR=863)). Is 3 Blocks Long, 60 Stories High, and Supernatural. Not to mention his symbiotic parasites.

Ogre
02-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Here you go (http://llbbl.com/data/RPG-motivational/images/cthulhu.jpg).

JohnT
02-04-2008, 08:08 PM
Snookums would take Godzilla. No problem. He'd use King Kong as a beating stick on one hand and Gamera in the other hand being used as Snookum's shield.

Sadly, if your monster skillz do not include one of the following, you're toast:

1. sub-molecular disintegration
2. transdimensional warping of mountain-sized objects
3. working wishes
4. being God

"Wonder Twin powers, activate!"
"Shape of... AAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!"
"AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!!"
chewing sounds

Yeah, it's gonna get ugly out there. :D Who's gonna direct this instant classic?

Ogre
02-05-2008, 01:53 PM
Here you go (http://llbbl.com/data/RPG-motivational/images/cthulhu.jpg).What? Too obscure? Too obvious? Are we limiting this to movie monsters?

Miller
02-05-2008, 01:55 PM
What? Too obscure? Too obvious? Are we limiting this to movie monsters?

Too hotlink disabled, I'm afraid.

Ogre
02-05-2008, 01:56 PM
Too hotlink disabled, I'm afraid.Oh. :)

In a word, then: Cthulhu.

Sir Dirx
02-05-2008, 06:18 PM
I'd have to watch a few of my dvds again, but I seem to remember certain incarnations of Godzilla and several of his many nemeses not even flinching under repeated missile attacks. Not sure if a nuke would take him out, but even so, he's damn resilient and would give Clovie a real run for his money at the very least. And don't forget, he's got quite a bit of a healing factor. The ending of GMK showed his disembodied heart resume beating, presumably as he began to regenerate himself..

But I agree that any version of King Kong won't last 5 minutes.

Sir Dirx
02-07-2008, 08:42 PM
*bump*

I know we have more giant monster fans than this.

Chimera
02-07-2008, 09:05 PM
I dunno, you think Robert Smith of The Cure could take him?

Or would he need the help of Leonard Maltin and Sidney Poitier?