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Two and a Half Inches of Fun
06-24-2008, 10:35 PM
This thread:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=473073

got me wondering about something. When The Brown Bunny came out, there was a big deal made out the un-simulated and extremely graphic oral sex scene between Vincent Gallo and ChloŽ Sevigny. I have never seen the movie, but I was wondering if Vincent Gallo ejaculated in ChloŽ Sevigny's mouth. Did he?

Shamozzle
06-25-2008, 12:10 AM
I've seen the film. I would say he did.

Argent Towers
06-25-2008, 12:14 AM
Yeah, of course he did.

Green Cymbeline
06-25-2008, 12:31 AM
Is this movie any good?

even sven
06-25-2008, 01:14 AM
no.

Two and a Half Inches of Fun
06-25-2008, 01:42 AM
no.

Which question are you answering?

Little Nemo
06-25-2008, 01:47 AM
Most likely. You have a clear view of what's happening and it certainly appears that Sevigny is fellating Gallo. But he ejaculated inside her mouth so there's no visual proof that he actually did so. Some viewers have speculated that what we saw wasn't actually Gallo's penis - they feel it was a prop. It's possible - Gallo wasn't naked and the penis we saw was sticking out through his fly. But as far as I've heard, both Gallo and Sevigny have said the scene was authentic.

Bryan Ekers
06-25-2008, 02:13 AM
Compared to what one can casually watch on cable, is Brown Bunny really all that shocking?

Omniscient
06-25-2008, 02:29 AM
Compared to what one can casually watch on cable, is Brown Bunny really all that shocking?
Well, Skinemax hasn't crossed that line as far as I know so I would say it's a new standard still. Even Playboy TV and Spice channel drew the line at actual shots of penetration last I saw.

Argent Towers
06-25-2008, 03:15 AM
Gallo may be a sleazeball, a hack, pretentious, obnoxious, and any number of other things, but the one thing he's not is a liar. You have to give it to him, his art is offered honestly. He wouldn't fake something like that scene.

Siam Sam
06-25-2008, 03:57 AM
The wife and I actually liked The Brown Bunny. I'd like to think that Gallo and Sevigny are consummate professionals who would give their all for their chosen profession, and I believe they did the deed for real and finished it. But then, I'm a dirty old man.

even sven
06-25-2008, 04:38 AM
I'm sorry. I meant too reply that the movie is not good. Not in any sense of the word. I'm glad I watched it, and I guess bringing such a long, plodding, painful tribute to his own ego was an accomplishment. But it is by no means a good movie.

astro
06-25-2008, 06:00 AM
I'm sorry. I meant too reply that the movie is not good. Not in any sense of the word. I'm glad I watched it, and I guess bringing such a long, plodding, painful tribute to his own ego was an accomplishment. But it is by no means a good movie.

Careful now or he'lll cancer curse (http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/gallo%20regrets%20roger%20ebert%20curse) you.

Yorikke
06-25-2008, 11:00 AM
Well, Skinemax hasn't crossed that line as far as I know so I would say it's a new standard still. Even Playboy TV and Spice channel drew the line at actual shots of penetration last I saw.

Must've been a while ago. When I had DirecTV, there was a lot of full penetration on both channels. No anal, though, and I'm not sure about the cumshots...

Joe

lieu
06-25-2008, 11:08 AM
Gallo may be a sleazeball, a hack, pretentious, obnoxious, and any number of other things, but the one thing he's not is a liar. Whew.

Revtim
06-25-2008, 01:14 PM
Most likely. You have a clear view of what's happening and it certainly appears that Sevigny is fellating Gallo. But he ejaculated inside her mouth so there's no visual proof that he actually did so.Just to be clear here, the scene including Gallo reacting as if he were coming?

Snarky_Kong
06-25-2008, 01:35 PM
How many times do you think he found little things he didn't like in the scene so it had to be reshot?

Trunk
06-25-2008, 01:50 PM
That scene in question was directly stolen from "Turner & Hooch".

Grossbottom
06-25-2008, 02:36 PM
I have to question whether some people posting here have actually watched the scene. Gallo nuts in her mouth and it's pretty obvious.

WF Tomba
06-25-2008, 02:42 PM
Compared to what one can casually watch on cable, is Brown Bunny really all that shocking?
It's not so much the what as the who that made it a big deal.

WF Tomba
06-25-2008, 02:56 PM
Most likely. You have a clear view of what's happening and it certainly appears that Sevigny is fellating Gallo. But he ejaculated inside her mouth so there's no visual proof that he actually did so. Some viewers have speculated that what we saw wasn't actually Gallo's penis - they feel it was a prop. It's possible - Gallo wasn't naked and the penis we saw was sticking out through his fly. But as far as I've heard, both Gallo and Sevigny have said the scene was authentic.
I haven't seen Brown Bunny. But I have seen Catherine Breillat's Sex is Comedy (excellent movie, by the way), whose plot involves the use of a large prosthetic dick in a movie scene in which the actor is naked. The thing was so realistic-looking, it made me wonder why porn producers bother with the real thing.

So I would say that a good fake phallus could be indistinguishable from a real one on the screen.

Morbo
06-25-2008, 02:59 PM
I have to question whether some people posting here have actually watched the scene. Gallo nuts in her mouth and it's pretty obvious.

Agreed. It's pretty clear.

I'd like to think that Gallo and Sevigny are consummate professionals who would give their all for their chosen profession, and I believe they did the deed for real and finished it

It's not like they were making some sleazy sacrifice for their art; she was his girlfriend at the time.

Cluricaun
06-25-2008, 03:05 PM
That scene in question was directly stolen from "Turner & Hooch".

Bwaaaahahahahaaaaaa.......That's awesome. Whew.

Anyway, of course he does. You can find clips of it on line and that's not faked in the least.

Hippy Hollow
06-25-2008, 04:21 PM
I can't wait until this thread drops from the top of the CS page.

What?

Onday
06-25-2008, 04:30 PM
I saw the scene and I don't think he actually ejaculated in her mouth. But I'm pretty certain it was his real member.

The scene is shot from waist level. Gallo is on the left of the screen in profile. You can see from his waist to his thigh. Chloe is kneeling or sitting on something. Her face is on the right. Gallo takes his erect member out of his underwear and Chloe goes to work. After a minute or so, Gallo twitches. Presumably this is the ejaculation. He then withdraws his erect member and tucks it back into his underwear.

There's a couple of reasons I don't think he ejaculated. First, the scene was shorter than I would think it should be. Chloe wasn't really doing anything particularly vigorously to make things go so quickly. Second, after the "ejaculation", he still seems rock-hard. I would have expected him to lose some turgidness.

Argent Towers
06-25-2008, 05:04 PM
Second, after the "ejaculation", he still seems rock-hard. I would have expected him to lose some turgidness.

Not always the case.

Vinyl Turnip
06-25-2008, 05:14 PM
You obviously haven't watched the DVD outtakes, which clearly show Sevigny gargling with the load before snowballing it back into Gallo's mouth.

Revtim
06-25-2008, 05:15 PM
I have to question whether some people posting here have actually watched the scene. Gallo nuts in her mouth and it's pretty obvious.Is Onday's description accurate? If so, then it seems far from obvious.

FYI, Onday thanks for blow-by-blow (heh).

WF Tomba
06-25-2008, 05:26 PM
I wouldn't call it obvious unless you actually see spooge.

Contrapuntal
06-25-2008, 05:34 PM
Is Onday's description accurate? If so, then it seems far from obvious.It's on RedTube. Judge for yourself.

Justin_Bailey
06-25-2008, 08:44 PM
You obviously haven't watched the DVD outtakes, which clearly show Sevigny gargling with the load before snowballing it back into Gallo's mouth.

Knowing Vincent Gallo's ego, I can't tell if this is supposed to be a joke or not.

Revtim
06-25-2008, 09:03 PM
It's on RedTube. Judge for yourself.Hadn't heard of RedTube before, thanks.

I see that no semen was shown, and it's impossible to tell whether it's an actual orgasm/ejaculation or just acting. Unless there's different footage than what's on RedTube, only Gallo and Sevigny know for sure.

Bryan Ekers
06-25-2008, 10:30 PM
So, is the director cut?

astro
06-26-2008, 02:07 AM
I just went over to youporn and checked it out. It sure looks like his member or a damned good approx of real one, but re this "nutting" in her mouth there is no evidence of that whatsoever other than some "uh uhs" he's grunting, and while it's possible to have an ejaculation and stay hard in come circumstances, it's not the usual scenario.

Beyond this if he really wanted to "prove" it was his member he could easily have dropped trou all the way instead of leaving his pants all up around his penis and testes. So, while it sure does look like his willy it could also be a very good prosthetic. No one other than those two will will ever know for sure.

Little Nemo
06-26-2008, 03:23 AM
The thing was so realistic-looking, it made me wonder why porn producers bother with the real thing.Because no matter how cheaply and how realistic looking your prop department can make a fake penis, nature's already made one that's free and real.

It's not like there's any shortage of men out there willing to stick their penises into some actress' mouth.

Siam Sam
06-26-2008, 03:45 AM
So, is the director cut?
No, I think Chloe was careful with her teeth.

tim314
06-26-2008, 10:08 AM
So, while it sure does look like his willy it could also be a very good prosthetic. No one other than those two will will ever know for sure.
Why would they bother with a prosthetic? Sevigny was Gallo's girlfriend at the time -- I assume it wasn't the first time she gave him a blow job.

Do you think she'd be too squeamish to fellate him on camera, but not too squeamish to let the whole world think she did?

Vinyl Turnip
06-26-2008, 10:34 AM
I'm a star, I'm a star, I'm a star. I am a big, bright, shining star. That's right. <zzzip>

astro
06-26-2008, 10:41 AM
Why would they bother with a prosthetic? Sevigny was Gallo's girlfriend at the time -- I assume it wasn't the first time she gave him a blow job.

Do you think she'd be too squeamish to fellate him on camera, but not too squeamish to let the whole world think she did?

Chances are better than even it's his penis, but the pants bunched around your waist and your penis and testicles bound in by the jeans is not the most comfortable way to get oral, in fact it's weird enough that some degree of doubt exists as to why he did this unless there was some camera trickery going on.

On the flip side Gallo is (in) famously proud of his penis so it's likely he would be using himself vs a prosthetic. The thing that intrigues me is why Sevigny did this. Gallo seems to have some power over women the rest of men can only wonder at.

The wiki description is kind of interesting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brown_Bunny).

BrainGlutton
06-26-2008, 10:46 AM
. . . but I was wondering if Vincent Gallo ejaculated in ChloŽ Sevigny's mouth. Did he?

Doesn't everybody?

WF Tomba
06-26-2008, 12:12 PM
It's not like there's any shortage of men out there willing to stick their penises into some actress' mouth.
But there aren't that many guys who are both large enough and able to consistently get it up on command in the stressful environment of a movie shoot. At least that's what I've heard.

Little Nemo
06-26-2008, 12:31 PM
But there aren't that many guys who are both large enough and able to consistently get it up on command in the stressful environment of a movie shoot. At least that's what I've heard.Is the qualifications uncommon? Maybe. But are they unknown? Definitely not. Your casting department will find those people who are qualified.

WF Tomba
06-26-2008, 12:49 PM
Is the qualifications uncommon? Maybe. But are they unknown? Definitely not. Your casting department will find those people who are qualified.
Surely they don't work for free, though. And the fewer they are, the more you'll have to pay them, according to the law of supply and demand.

CaerieD
06-26-2008, 01:03 PM
But there aren't that many guys who are both large enough and able to consistently get it up on command in the stressful environment of a movie shoot. At least that's what I've heard.

According to my friend in the business, not so anymore. She says that so long as they're large enough (and many of them aren't really all that big--camera angles and shaving makes them appear larger) they can just pop Viagra to get erections on demand. The "talent" bar has been significantly lowered.

Bryan Ekers
06-26-2008, 01:19 PM
The "talent" bar has been significantly lowered.

And thus another golden age comes to a end.

spifflog
06-26-2008, 01:38 PM
And thus another golden age comes to a end.


"Golden" work is usually found in S&M films, not your normal porn.

Little Nemo
06-26-2008, 01:45 PM
Surely they don't work for free, though. And the fewer they are, the more you'll have to pay them, according to the law of supply and demand.I don't think the "skill" of getting an erection while an attractive woman is giving you a blowjob is all that rare. As for money, when you're offering men a job that consists of getting their dicks sucked, you'll generally find that many of them are pretty flexible on their salary demands.

Spiff
06-26-2008, 01:53 PM
You're paying for the male talent's ability to remain hard for a long time, and to come on cue.

Not every male has these talents.

Bryan Ekers
06-26-2008, 01:58 PM
I don't think the "skill" of getting an erection while an attractive woman is giving you a blowjob is all that rare.
Ah, but can you sustain that "effort" for an entire day's worth of shooting? Six hours in, the director and the crew (all of whom are watching your "effort" with a critical eye, by the way), are not going to appreciate that the spirit is willing but flesh is spongy and bruised, especially if they only have the location for the one day and still have more scenes to shoot.

In this business, being known as "hard to work with" is good. Being "soft to work with"... not so much.

mlees
06-26-2008, 02:15 PM
I don't think the "skill" of getting an erection while an attractive woman is giving you a blowjob is all that rare. As for money, when you're offering men a job that consists of getting their dicks sucked, you'll generally find that many of them are pretty flexible on their salary demands.

However, there are still a lot of distractions on a movie set.

All kinds of support techs watching (or at least it might seem like everyone is looking), the air temperature on the set might be too cold or hot, the director keeps spoiling the mood to tell you to shift more to the side, tilt your head this way, no wait... tilt it that way, etc etc.

kidchameleon
06-26-2008, 03:38 PM
However, there are still a lot of distractions on a movie set.

All kinds of support techs watching (or at least it might seem like everyone is looking), the air temperature on the set might be too cold or hot, the director keeps spoiling the mood to tell you to shift more to the side, tilt your head this way, no wait... tilt it that way, etc etc.

I believe the scene in question was filmed by a stationary camera with only the two participants in the room.

Little Nemo
06-26-2008, 11:24 PM
You're paying for the male talent's ability to remain hard for a long time, and to come on cue.Ah, but can you sustain that "effort" for an entire day's worth of shooting? Six hours in, the director and the crew (all of whom are watching your "effort" with a critical eye, by the way), are not going to appreciate that the spirit is willing but flesh is spongy and bruised, especially if they only have the location for the one day and still have more scenes to shoot.However, there are still a lot of distractions on a movie set.

All kinds of support techs watching (or at least it might seem like everyone is looking), the air temperature on the set might be too cold or hot, the director keeps spoiling the mood to tell you to shift more to the side, tilt your head this way, no wait... tilt it that way, etc etc.I think you guys are overestimating the difficulty factor. While an entire movie may be shot in the course of a sixteen hour day, there's no requirement for an actor to be "on duty" the whole time. You get called in to have sex for twenty or thirty minutes then you can take a break to recover. As for the distractions of being on a film set, the male libido is strong and can overcome adversity. People manage to have sex under circumstances much more difficult than an uncomfortable air temperature. If you ignore the distractions, the reality is that you're having sex with a beautiful woman - it's not like that's difficult to do.

pepperlandgirl
06-27-2008, 12:02 AM
Plus it's pretty rare for one guy to be an entire movie. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen a pornographic film where a single model is in every single scene.

crowmanyclouds
06-27-2008, 12:17 AM
I think you guys are overestimating the difficulty factor. ... As for the distractions of being on a film set, the male libido is strong and can overcome adversity. ... If you ignore the distractions, the reality is that you're having sex with a beautiful woman - it's not like that's difficult to do.If they're overestimating the difficulty factor, what would explain the need for fluffers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluffer) and Viagra?

CMC +fnord!

Argent Towers
06-27-2008, 12:44 AM
Hey, those are porn features with non-stop fucking. Gallo's scene was just a few minutes - one measley blow job. The guy's a stud - get over it.