The Simpsons Classic Madness - round 2

[fusoya]

We only had 8 votes in round 1. You can't ALL be bitter over your favorite episode not making the tournament, can you? I mean, I lost a ton of my favorite episodes in round 1, but there are just as many good ones left in the game....do you really want Martin to win another election (Lisa the Substitute, 3 seed in the M/B/S bracket)?

Round 2 closes Friday night at 10PM EDT. Check mobo85's episode guide (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10101933&postcount=7) if you need to figure out what some of these titles are.

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

1. Dead Putting Society
vs 9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge

15. Old Money
vs 10. Krusty Gets Busted

3. Lisa's Substitute
vs 11. Bart the Daredevil

13. Three Men & A Comic Book
vs 5. Bart The General


Jean & Reiss Bracket

1. Last Exit To Springfield
vs 8. Homer At the Bat

2. Marge vs the Monorail
vs 10. A Streetcar Named Marge

3. Homer the Heretic
vs 6. Cape Feare

13. Mr. Plow
vs 12. Kamp Krusty


Mirkin Bracket

1. Homie the Klown
vs 8. Deep Space Homer

2. Homer the Great
vs. Grampa Simpson vs Sexual Inadequacy

14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much
vs. 6. Bart Gets An Elephant

13. Who Shot Mr. Burns?
vs 12. Homer: Bad Man


Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
vs 8. Much Apu About Nothing

2. In Marge We Trust
vs 7. The City of New York vs Homer

3. 22 Short Films About Springfield
vs 6. You Only Move Twice

13. King Size Homer
vs 5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

[Freudian Slit]

Maybe there will be more voters now that the list is less daunting?

Still can't believe Springfield Files didn't make it.

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge
10. Krusty Gets Busted
Lisa's Substitute
11. Bart the Daredevil
Three Men & A Comic Boo

Jean & Reiss Bracket

8. Homer At the Bat
10. A Streetcar Named Marge
6. Cape Feare
12. Kamp Krusty

Mirkin Bracket

8. Deep Space Homer
Grampa Simpson vs Sexual Inadequacy
14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much
13. Who Shot Mr. Burns?

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
2. In Marge We Trust
6. You Only Move Twice
5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

[Baine]

My picks:

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge

10. Krusty Gets Busted

3. Lisa's Substitute

13. Three Men & A Comic Book

Jean & Reiss Bracket

1. Last Exit To Springfield

2. Marge vs the Monorail

6. Cape Feare

12. Kamp Krusty

Mirkin Bracket

8. Deep Space Homer

2. Homer the Great

14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much

13. Who Shot Mr. Burns?

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer

2. In Marge We Trust (the Mr. Sparkle side plot makes this one)

6. You Only Move Twice

5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

[Larry Borgia]

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

1. Dead Putting Society

10. Krusty Gets Busted

3. Lisa's Substitute

13. Three Men & A Comic Book


Jean & Reiss Bracket

8. Homer At the Bat

2. Marge vs the Monorail

3. Homer the Heretic

13. Mr. Plow


Mirkin Bracket

8. Deep Space Homer

2. Homer the Great

14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much


13. Who Shot Mr. Burns?


Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

8. Much Apu About Nothing

7. The City of New York vs Homer

6. You Only Move Twice

5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

[Mbossa]

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge
10. Krusty Gets Busted
3. Lisa's Substitute
5. Bart The General


Jean & Reiss Bracket

1. Last Exit To Springfield
10. A Streetcar Named Marge
3. Homer the Heretic
13. Mr. Plow


Mirkin Bracket

1. Homie the Klown
2. Homer the Great
6. Bart Gets An Elephant
12. Homer: Bad Man


Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
2. In Marge We Trust
3. 22 Short Films About Springfield
13. King Size Homer

[Hal Briston]

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge
10. Krusty Gets Busted
11. Bart the Daredevil
13. Three Men & A Comic Book

Jean & Reiss Bracket

8. Homer At the Bat
2. Marge vs the Monorail
3. Homer the Heretic
13. Mr. Plow

Mirkin Bracket

1. Homie the Klown
2. Homer the Great
6. Bart Gets An Elephant
12. Homer: Bad Man

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
2. In Marge We Trust
6. You Only Move Twice
13. King Size Homer

[Justin_Bailey]

Fewer matchups will definitely bring more votes in. So here goes (and down with Lisa's Substitute!):

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket
vs 9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge
vs 10. Krusty Gets Busted
vs 11. Bart the Daredevil
vs 5. Bart The General

Jean & Reiss Bracket
vs 8. Homer At the Bat
2. Marge vs the Monorail
vs 6. Cape Feare
13. Mr. Plow (in a squeaker)

Mirkin Bracket
vs 8. Deep Space Homer
2. Homer the Great (Damn you! I love both episodes!)
14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much
13. Who Shot Mr. Burns?

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket
vs 8. Much Apu About Nothing
vs 7. The City of New York vs Homer
vs 6. You Only Move Twice
vs 5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

The remaining matchups in the Oakley & Weinstein Bracket are just evil.

[Marley23]

This is only reinforcing my enormous respect for the Oakstein team. There are still some hard, HARD choices in this one (Lisa's Substitute vs. Bart the Daredevil - I mean, you think Sophie had problems?), but I hope the shorter list makes for more responses.

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket
9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge
10. Krusty Gets Busted
3. Lisa's Substitute
13. Three Men & A Comic Book

Jean & Reiss Bracket
1. Last Exit To Springfield
2. Marge vs the Monorail
6. Cape Feare
13. Mr. Plow

Mirkin Bracket
8. Deep Space Homer
2. Homer the Great
6. Bart Gets An Elephant
12. Homer: Bad Man

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket
1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
2. In Marge We Trust
6. You Only Move Twice
5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

[mobo85]

Yeah, hopefully less to choose from means more people will vote. Especially since many of the matchups seem to be gimmes- but that means the later rounds will be even harder to choose. (That doesn't mean there are some still difficult ones here- "Homie the Klown" vs. "Deep Space Homer" and "King Size Homer" vs. "Homer vs. The 18th Amendment" are very tough matchups.)

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket
9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge
10. Krusty Gets Busted
3. Lisa's Substitute
13. Three Men & A Comic Book

Jean & Reiss Bracket
1. Last Exit To Springfield
2. Marge vs the Monorail
6. Cape Feare
13. Mr. Plow

Mirkin Bracket
8. Deep Space Homer
2. Homer the Great
6. Bart Gets An Elephant
12. Homer: Bad Man

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket
1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
7. The City of New York vs Homer
3. 22 Short Films About Springfield
13. King Size Homer

[Marley23]

I'm thinking about quitting this game in protest. After reviewing the list again, I realized the OP left out at least two of my personal five favorites: Raging Abe Simpson and Bart's Inner Child. Bah.

[Justin_Bailey]

I'm thinking about quitting this game in protest. After reviewing the list again, I realized the OP left out at least two of my personal five favorites: Raging Abe Simpson and Bart's Inner Child. Bah.

I'm with you on Raging Abe Simpson, but Bart's Inner Child is a pretty meh episode.

Of course, we could probably do a completely new Madness game of just the episodes from the first eight seasons that missed the cut for this one.

[Marley23]

I'm with you on Raging Abe Simpson, but Bart's Inner Child is a pretty meh episode.
I think it's very much overlooked. The scene with Homer, the cliff and the trampoline is one of the funniest in the history of the series as far as I'm concerned.

[KGS]

We only had 8 votes in round 1. You can't ALL be bitter over your favorite episode not making the tournament, can you? I tried to vote in the first round but the board crashed. So it's the hamsters' fault, n'yah.

The first round had only a few tough choices, but this one's downright evil. :mad:

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket
9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge (evil)
10. Krusty Gets Busted
11. Bart the Daredevil (evil)
13. Three Men & A Comic Book

Jean & Reiss Bracket
1. Last Exit To Springfield (evil)
2. Marge vs the Monorail
3. Homer the Heretic (evil)
13. Mr. Plow (evil)

Mirkin Bracket
8. Deep Space Homer
2. Homer the Great (evil)
14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much
13. Who Shot Mr. Burns?
12. Homer: Bad Man

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket
1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer
7. The City of New York vs Homer
6. You Only Move Twice (evil)
13. King Size Homer

See you in hell!

[Freudian Slit]

See you in hell!
From Heaven!

[Justin_Bailey]

See you in hell!

Candy boys!

[woodstockbirdybird]

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

1. Dead Putting Society

15. Old Money

3. Lisa's Substitute

13. Three Men & A Comic Book


Jean & Reiss Bracket

8. Homer At the Bat

10. A Streetcar Named Marge

6. Cape Feare

13. Mr. Plow


Mirkin Bracket

8. Deep Space Homer

2. Homer the Great

6. Bart Gets An Elephant

13. Who Shot Mr. Burns?


Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer

2. In Marge We Trust

3. 22 Short Films About Springfield

5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

[Shalmanese]

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

1. Dead Putting Society
15. Old Money
3. Lisa's Substitute
13. Three Men & A Comic Book

Jean & Reiss Bracket

8. Homer At the Bat
2. Marge vs the Monorail
3. Homer the Heretic
13. Mr. Plow

Mirkin Bracket

8. Deep Space Homer
2. Homer the Great
14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much
12. Homer: Bad Man

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

8. Much Apu About Nothing
2. In Marge We Trust
6. You Only Move Twice
13. King Size Homer

[Marley23]

No "Sideshow Bob's Last Gleaming" either. We may need a second 64 for a Simpsons ultimate megabracket. By the time that's done, it'll be time to start the Treehouse Madness (I'm suggesting it be broken down by segment instead of by episode).

[Freudian Slit]

No "Sideshow Bob's Last Gleaming" either. We may need a second 64 for a Simpsons ultimate megabracket. By the time that's done, it'll be time to start the Treehouse Madness (I'm suggesting it be broken down by segment instead of by episode).
For sure--I think pretty much all Sideshow Bob episodes are brilliant, except for the more recent ones. The last really good one was Brother from Another Series.

Also, Stark Raving Dad.

And Homer and Apu.

And Bart of Darkness.

And Lisa's Wedding

And Bart Sells His Soul

And Homer's Phobia

And Realty Bites...I'll just stop now.

[lawoot]

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge

10. Krusty Gets Busted

11. Bart the Daredevil

5. Bart The General

Jean & Reiss Bracket

8. Homer At the Bat

10. A Streetcar Named Marge

6. Cape Feare

12. Kamp Krusty

Mirkin Bracket

1. Homie the Klown

Grampa Simpson vs Sexual Inadequacy

14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much

12. Homer: Bad Man

Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

8. Much Apu About Nothing

2. In Marge We Trust

6. You Only Move Twice

5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment

[Marley23]

And Realty Bites...I'll just stop now.
Before this goes any further and fusoya starts thinking I'm really pissed, I want to make it clear that I'm having a lot of fun with this thread and he's done a great job setting up these brackets. And if choosing between Deep Space Homer and Homie the Clown is hard, picking the best 64 of the first 178 episodes is much more daunting and he did really well. I mentioned that several of my favorites were left out, but there are so many good ones that even I didn't notice at first.

[Freudian Slit]

Before this goes any further and fusoya starts thinking I'm really pissed, I want to make it clear that I'm having a lot of fun with this thread and he's done a great job setting up these brackets. And if choosing between Deep Space Homer and Homie the Clown is hard, picking the best 64 of the first 178 episodes is much more daunting and he did really well. I mentioned that several of my favorites were left out, but there are so many good ones that even I didn't notice at first.
Oh, me too, for sure. This is just hard because there are so many great Simpson episodes. We should definitely do another madness thread after this one.

[fusoya]

I'm thinking about running a parallel classic Simpsons madness round after round 2 ends, with the first 32 episodes nominated by fellow voters. The 16 which come through after voting will be put against the 16 which come through in this round.

Unless someone volunteers to run their own 64 episode (different eps than mine) tournament, and my winner can face off against yours.....

oh and Realty Bites was produced by Mike Scully in season 9, thus making it post-classic. Its one of the better episodes of the season, but the amputation of Kirk is a sure sign that Groening had left the building by then.....

[Marley23]

oh and Realty Bites was produced by Mike Scully in season 9, thus making it post-classic. Its one of the better episodes of the season, but the amputation of Kirk is a sure sign that Groening had left the building by then.....
I'm not sure how you are defining 'left the show,' which you also mentioned in the previous thread, but Matt Groening is still involved with the show. The arm thing was the work of George Meyer, who is responsible for more great Simpsons jokes than anybody. According to the DVD commentary for the episode, the piano wire was originally going to cut Kirk's sandwich perfectly in half.

[Justin_Bailey]

Unless someone volunteers to run their own 64 episode (different eps than mine) tournament, and my winner can face off against yours.....

I could probably swing it. I'll wait until this Madness is over and then put it up.

Will give me time to work on the seeding (which I'm sure some of you will howl at, so I apologize in advance).

[fusoya]

The Brutal Results:

Groening, Brooks & Simon Bracket

1. Dead Putting Society - 3
vs 9. Itchy & Scratchy & Marge - 9

15. Old Money - 2
vs 10. Krusty Gets Busted - 10

3. Lisa's Substitute - 7
vs 11. Bart the Daredevil - 4

13. Three Men & A Comic Book - 8
vs 5. Bart The General - 4


Jean & Reiss Bracket

1. Last Exit To Springfield - 5
vs 8. Homer At the Bat - 7

2. Marge vs the Monorail - 8
vs 10. A Streetcar Named Marge - 4

3. Homer the Heretic - 5
vs 6. Cape Feare - 7

13. Mr. Plow - 9
vs 12. Kamp Krusty - 3


Mirkin Bracket

1. Homie the Klown - 3
vs 8. Deep Space Homer - 9

2. Homer the Great - 10
vs. Grampa Simpson vs Sexual Inadequacy - 2

14. The Boy Who Knew Too Much - 8
vs. 6. Bart Gets An Elephant - 4

13. Who Shot Mr. Burns? - 5
vs 12. Homer: Bad Man - 6


Oakley & Weinstein Bracket

1. El Viaje Misterioso de Nuestro Jomer - 8
vs 8. Much Apu About Nothing - 4

2. In Marge We Trust - 8
vs 7. The City of New York vs Homer - 4

3. 22 Short Films About Springfield - 3
vs 6. You Only Move Twice - 9

13. King Size Homer - 5
vs 5. Homer vs The 18th Amendment - 7

and Marley - Matt left the show before season 9 in order to work on Futurama, and was gone for the next 5 years or so (he was still technically on staff, but gave more of a shit about his new show, which is why Futurama had 4 quality seasons)....I think after the show was cancelled, Matt continued to not give much of a shit about The Simpsons and still only shows his face in their studio occasionally (although he was fully involved in the Simpsons movie, which used a separate staff from the television episodes).