A shout-out? from a VP candidate?

[Acid Lamp]

A shout-out? A Shout-out?....................


:smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:

















Goddammit. I hate My fellow Americans.

[tnetennba]

Huh?

[Dreamy B]

Possibly....
At one point during the debate last night Palin shouted out to her Dad and (maybe) some other members of her family. At the same time smiling and winking at the camera. It made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

[WOOKINPANUB]

What a fucking embarassment that woman is.

[DoctorJ]

Maybe next week Obama can send one out to all the ladies in the house.

[Dumbguy]

McCain to pour one out for his dead homies.

[tdn]

I thought that she did OK when she was staying on-topic and discussing the issues. But yeah, when she showed any personality, egads, she came off like a cartoonish version of Jean Lundegaard. Kinda weird lookin', ya know, in a sorta general way.

[Acid Lamp]

Possibly....
At one point during the debate last night Palin shouted out to her Dad and (maybe) some other members of her family. At the same time smiling and winking at the camera. It made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.

I'm sure the quote will be up on youtube shortly. She gave a Shout-out to a few people and a third grade class who is getting extra credit for watching the debate.

eta link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmFhwknGRgLINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmFhwknGRg)

[Gatopescado]

Is this the best you could come up with to dump on her? Why not just call her a "Poopy-head" and make fun of her stupid glasses?

:rolleyes:

[fessie]

Her performance was so ridiculously wretched that I can't imagine how anyone with two functioning brain cells is buying it.

Really, it makes me sick.

"maverick maverick McCain maverick maverick"

[Really Not All That Bright]

I actually thought the nod to her brother's third-grade class was kind of cute, even if it was transparent ploy to show how she's "just like you" #1,594.

[Trion]

Folksy. It's the new gravitas.

[FriarTed]

Is this the best you could come up with to dump on her? Why not just call her a "Poopy-head" and make fun of her stupid glasses?

:rolleyes:

Hey, any excuse 4 da Haterz!

[BrainGlutton]

Folksy. It's the new gravitas.

Since 1840. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1840)

[CircleofWillis]

The wolves were hungry at the prospect of the banquet last night. Unfortunately, nary a drop to satiate themselves. Apparantly still rummaging through the bones for the tiniest speck of meat. Sad, really.

[BrainGlutton]

At least she didn't tug on her earlobe.

[WOOKINPANUB]

I thought that she did OK when she was staying on-topic and discussing the issues. But yeah, when she showed any personality, egads, she came off like a cartoonish version of Jean Lundegaard. Kinda weird lookin', ya know, in a sorta general way.

Exactly.

[Acid Lamp]

Is this the best you could come up with to dump on her? Why not just call her a "Poopy-head" and make fun of her stupid glasses?

:rolleyes:


Actually, if she had pulled this AS V.P. I would have thought it entertaining. As a candidate in a serious debate that has been consistently run down for her lack of experience and decorum it struck me as: "Og help us all if this woman gets into office." I'm no hater, I think that she and McCain are absolutely NOT what this country needs right now, and I have logical arguments to back my position. This kind of folksy crap though is beneath her as she showed some chops in that debate. So it's either a transparent ploy, or she really IS that much of a nimrod.

Which is it?

[Prelude to Fascination]

The wolves were hungry at the prospect of the banquet last night. Unfortunately, nary a drop to satiate themselves. Apparantly still rummaging through the bones for the tiniest speck of meat. Sad, really.

Not sad, because she threw us enough meat-covered bones over the course of the 90 minutes to fill us for awhile.

It's just that the idiotic folksy-ness of winking and the other bullshit was the barbecue sauce.

[Whack-a-Mole]

Palin is such a Poopy-head. And seriously...what is it with the glasses?


ETA: Oh! :smack:
Is this the best you could come up with to dump on her? Why not just call her a "Poopy-head" and make fun of her stupid glasses?

:rolleyes:

;)

[Don't fight the hypothetical]

Her performance was so ridiculously wretched that I can't imagine how anyone with two functioning brain cells is buying it.

Really, it makes me sick.

"maverick maverick McCain maverick maverick"

Didn't you mean,
"Maverick maverick McCain maverick maverick Wink "

Palin is WAY, WAY out of her depth.

[CircleofWillis]

Not sad, because she threw us enough meat-covered bones over the course of the 90 minutes to fill us for awhile.

It's just that the idiotic folksy-ness of winking and the other bullshit was the barbecue sauce.

and yet the bellies rumble with hunger....

[Freudian Slit]

Did she answer one question? Seriously? All I heard was a mismash of "maverick," "Hockey Mom," "ENERGY!" and false allegations about Obama voting to increase taxes whenever she was asked about anything specific. She seemed incapable of responding to anything specific that Biden said.

[BoBettie]

Frankly, I"m a fucking idiot. I don't want someone JUST LIKE ME in the oval office. I want someone with a farking clue! Cripes!

[ArizonaTeach]

It was better than Biden's fake choke-up.

[Don't fight the hypothetical]

Did she answer one question? Seriously? All I heard was a mismash of "maverick," "Hockey Mom," "ENERGY!" and false allegations about Obama voting to increase taxes whenever she was asked about anything specific.
No, not a fucking one that I noticed. That was infuriating.

She seemed incapable of responding to anything specific that Biden said.
Or the moderator for that matter.

[CircleofWillis]

Frankly, I"m a fucking idiot. I don't want someone JUST LIKE ME in the oval office. I want someone with a farking clue! Cripes!

This may be more telling about you than the VP candidate...

[Nzinga, Seated]

I don't have a cite, but I am 99% sure Obama gave a shout out or two, before. I am thinking at his convention, but I am not certain that was when.

I thought a bit of slang seemed perfectly natural coming out of his mouth. I didn't catch her use the term...I somehow missed it.

[Cervaise]

The wolves were hungry at the prospect of the banquet last night. Unfortunately, nary a drop to satiate themselves. Apparantly still rummaging through the bones for the tiniest speck of meat. Sad, really.Why do you hate America?

[tdn]

Not sad, because she threw us enough meat-covered bones over the course of the 90 minutes to fill us for awhile.

It's just that the idiotic folksy-ness of winking and the other bullshit was the barbecue sauce.

I believe we were promised a six pack.

[tdn]

Didn't you mean,
"Maverick maverick McCain maverick maverick Wink "

You betcha.

[Don't fight the hypothetical]

I don't have a cite, but I am 99% sure Obama gave a shout out or two, before. I am thinking at his convention, but I am not certain that was when.

I thought a bit of slang seemed perfectly natural coming out of his mouth. I didn't catch her use the term...I somehow missed it.

The convention is much more of a party affair. Yes, she used the term. Obama or Biden did not.

[Whack-a-Mole]

It was better than Biden's fake choke-up.

I thought he pulled that off rather well. I almost believed it for a second or two. Usually such things are instant redlines on the bullshit meter from a politician.

[hopesperson]

<snip> I'm no hater, I think that she and McCain are absolutely NOT what this country needs right now, and I have logical arguments to back my position. (bolding mine)

Goddammit. I hate My fellow Americans.

All righty then. So a dopey VP candidate says something characteristically dopey during a debate. As a result, you hate all Americans (other than yourself, of course). But you are not a hater.

[Acid Lamp]

(bolding mine)



All righty then. So a dopey VP candidate says something characteristically dopey during a debate. As a result, you hate all Americans (other than yourself, of course). But you are not a hater.

Nope. I loathe with reason, not on principal. Nor am I jealous.

hater

A person whose jealousy of another person success or achievements makes them verbally nit-pick any flaws no matter how small or just make up flaws in order to somehow try and belittle the successful person.

The term is more often than not used improperly to title a person who simply does not like something or someone because it’s not what they are into.
Hater: there’s no way John could score a chick that hot, he’s gotta be paying her
Dude: man, why do you have to be a straight up hater?

[frankzafka]

wait.. this wouldn't be complete without elucidator compsing his 84000th inane post whilst Dio sucking his cock. Sorry Dio is not literally sucking his cock. I'm sure he has a family that misses him and the tard time he furiously hammers at the keys on this site.

[DianaG]

Is this the best you could come up with to dump on her? Why not just call her a "Poopy-head" and make fun of her stupid glasses?

:rolleyes:

So just out of curiosity, are you good with a VP who sounds like she should be wearing an apron and chewing gum while serving up mooseburgers? Because that was some profoundly "I's jus' folks" shit she was spewing there.

[frankzafka]

So just out of curiosity, are you good with a VP who sounds like she should be wearing an apron and chewing gum while serving up mooseburgers? Because that was some profoundly "I's jus' folks" shit she was spewing there.

Give us your ideal VP candidate.. Because I'm sure you're ten times brighter, secure, both personally and financially, and successful than she is. But of course I may be wrong. Once you've taken a breath from the GD thread explain how you've managed to be half the woman she is.

moose.

apron.

burgers.

Where's me Mom?

[DianaG]

Well, I'm pretty sure that I am, in fact, better than her at almost anything that doesn't involve field dressing or birthin' babies. But that certainly has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Are you okay with how she presents herself? I'm not asking if you think she can handle the job, or if she's smart enough, or cute enough, or whathefuckever enough. I'm asking you if you're actually good with that downhome shitkicking image she portrays.

[sqweels]

I kept waiting for her to say, "Well, you know something? It's not okay".

[frankzafka]

Well, I'm pretty sure that I am, in fact, better than her at almost anything that doesn't involve field dressing or birthin' babies. But that certainly doesn't answer my question.

Are you okay with how she presents herself?

I guess only knowing you and your infantile posting habits and her being a mayor, governor and vice-presidential candiate I would guess my answer is, surprise, yes, she is better than you. Ah your question is partisan and stupid. But I suppose the regular crowd will arise soon provide succor.

[DianaG]

Since I don't know you from Adam, and you clearly have nothing to say about Sarah Palin (as opposed to, um, me, who doesn't know you from Adam), I guess we're done here.

[Captain Carrot]

I thought he pulled that off rather well. I almost believed it for a second or two. Usually such things are instant redlines on the bullshit meter from a politician.He seemed to be trying to control himself, and did so very well except for the few moments when he was overcome. I have no problem believing that someone can still be deeply affected by the death of his wife and daughter 36 years ago.

To echo the sentiment expressed upthread, quite frankly, I want the people at the highest level of government to be smarter than I am. I'm never going to have dinner with Biden or Obama, most likely, but I will be seriously affected by how good they are at doing their jobs. I don't care how personable they are. I want them to be overwhelmingly competent, and Sarah Palin has certainly not shown that she's competent.

[frankzafka]

Since I don't know you from Adam, and you clearly have nothing to say about Sarah Palin (as opposed to, um, me, who doesn't know you from Adam), I guess we're done here.

since you never posed a question that could be separated from fact...basically an assholish opinoin. I took it upon myself to be an asshole. i doubt you'll learn anything from my little lesson to you, however.

[Jackmannii]

The wolves were hungry at the prospect of the banquet last night. Unfortunately, nary a drop to satiate themselves. Apparantly still rummaging through the bones for the tiniest speck of meat. Sad, really.and yet the bellies rumble with hunger....
I detect a circular argument. Or does the username (http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/a/a8/250px-Circle_of_Willis_en.svg.png) reflect that you have a large head, multiple symmetric vestigial arms and a tail?

[frankzafka]

He seemed to be trying to control himself, and did so very well except for the few moments when he was overcome. I have no problem believing that someone can still be deeply affected by the death of his wife and daughter 36 years ago.

To echo the sentiment expressed upthread, quite frankly, I want the people at the highest level of government to be smarter than I am. I'm never going to have dinner with Biden or Obama, most likely, but I will be seriously affected by how good they are at doing their jobs. I don't care how personable they are. I want them to be overwhelmingly competent, and Sarah Palin has certainly not shown that she's competent.

what basis are you saying that Obama, Biden, McCain, or Palin is competent then?

[Vinyl Turnip]

Personally, I listen to what they say and read what they write. And also consider what other people say and write about them. I'm not saying it's the best method, but it works well for me.

[CircleofWillis]

I detect a circular argument. Or does the username (http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/a/a8/250px-Circle_of_Willis_en.svg.png) reflect that you have a large head, multiple symmetric vestigial arms and a tail?

Maybe I'm not following you here, but it seems the masses were salivating at the thought of a Palin gaffe-filled show of horrors. It didn't happen.

This morning all we got is "She made a shout out" and "She is trying to be too folksy." Lean pickin's on "enough meat-covered bones over the course of the 90 minutes to fill us for awhile."

It just smacks of desperation to find SOMETHING to keep the waters chummed for the sharks* here.

*Ok.. last of the animal metaphors, I promise.

[DianaG]

i doubt you'll learn anything from my little lesson to you, however.
That's not true at all. I learned that you can't think of some defense for her demeanor. And that disliking that demeanor is "partisan". Which implies that someone here believes that all Republicans are yokels. For the record, that person isn't me.

[frankzafka]

Personally, I listen to what they say and read what they write. And also consider what other people say and write about them. I'm not saying it's the best method, but it works well for me.

VT,
Glad to hear THIS answer. Kind of puts my faith back into these boards. I know you make no pretention to your leaning but glad to see some people put some thoughts into their posts and not the nastiest, thoughtless shit that first floods their compromised noodle.

Cheers.

[frankzafka]

That's not true at all. I learned that you can't think of some defense for her demeanor. And that disliking that demeanor is "partisan". Which implies that someone here believes that all Republicans are yokels. For the record, that person isn't me.

I'm not not one speaking of motherly, matronly, moose-gutting shit. You spoke not of her demeanor, which I did not like either, but of other attributes she did not bring on stage.

[Lobohan]

what basis are you saying that Obama, Biden, McCain, or Palin is competent then?

Obama: Constitutional Law professor, skilled speaker, good plan for America.

Biden: Decades of experience, solid performance in the debate.

McCain: Decades of experience, whiny stupid old man performance in debate, "He just doesn't get it." Chose to stupidly grandstand and suspend his campaign so he could seem like a leader. Also, terrible jet pilot.

Palin: Cutthroat bitch beauty queen creationist who fears witches and ignores every debate question with pre-memorized bullshit and behaves like a pathetic schoolmarm caricature so she can get the mindless sheep "family values" voters.

[CircleofWillis]

Obama: Constitutional Law professor, skilled speaker, good plan for America.

Biden: Decades of experience, solid performance in the debate.

McCain: Decades of experience, whiny stupid old man performance in debate, "He just doesn't get it." Chose to stupidly grandstand and suspend his campaign so he could seem like a leader. Also, terrible jet pilot.

Palin: Cutthroat bitch beauty queen creationist who fears witches and ignores every debate question with pre-memorized bullshit and behaves like a pathetic schoolmarm caricature so she can get the mindless sheep "family values" voters.

Well this is a fair, accurate, unbiased summary :rolleyes:

[DianaG]

I'm not not one speaking of motherly, matronly, moose-gutting shit. You spoke not of her demeanor, which I did not like either, but of other attributes she did not bring on stage.

Do you understand what 'demeanor' means? Because her demeanor was "truck stop waitress with a heart of gold", and that's exactly what I spoke of.

[Lobohan]

Well this is a fair, accurate, unbiased summary :rolleyes:First off, objectively, the man is a terrible jet pilot. :D


I'll admit the other stuff is subjective though.

[Baldwin]

It was better than Biden's fake choke-up.I think that was genuine. Biden's a pretty devoted family man; takes the train home to Delaware every night. (Maybe Amtrak will get some proper funding in the Obama/Biden administration.)

I don't really care about candidates' personal quirks, nor whether Palin's folksiness was real or fake. I care about the policies they'll be behind when they're in office -- for Christ's sake, why do people base their votes on personality?

ETA: I was hoping there'd be some questions about dinosaurs.

[gonzomax]

Maverick means we really are not repubs and do not know that Bush fella. They were trying to get a divorce from the republican party. Biden let then get away.

[CircleofWillis]

First off, objectively, the man is a terrible jet pilot. :D
.

This I can get on board with... errr... unless he is pilotng...

[frankzafka]

First off, objectively, the man is a terrible jet pilot. :D


I'll admit the other stuff is subjective though.

Thanks for subjective shit. But why waste your time? Christ people this is supposed to be..sorry it's the pit...carry on.

[Nutty Bunny]

I believe we were promised a six pack.

No, you ARE the six-pack. You're name is Joe, right?

[NurseCarmen]

wait.. this wouldn't be complete without elucidator compsing his 84000th inane post whilst Dio sucking his cock. Sorry Dio is not literally sucking his cock. I'm sure he has a family that misses him and the tard time he furiously hammers at the keys on this site.And then you accuse other posters of being infantile?

[Lobohan]

Thanks for subjective shit. But why waste your time? Christ people this is supposed to be..sorry it's the pit...carry on.I thought your panties were a little bunched there.

[frankzafka]

I think that was genuine. Biden's a pretty devoted family man; takes the train home to Delaware every night. (Maybe Amtrak will get some proper funding in the Obama/Biden administration.)

I don't really care about candidates' personal quirks, nor whether Palin's folksiness was real or fake. I care about the policies they'll be behind when they're in office -- for Christ's sake, why do people base their votes on personality?

ETA: I was hoping there'd be some questions about dinosaurs.

Nice try to camoflage yourself to be non-partisan until the last sentance. What does Barney have to do with personality? If you wish to be stupid shout it out to the masses and not the 58 people on this bankrupt, both financially and idealistically, board.

[frankzafka]

And then you accuse other posters of being infantile?

you sticking up for those two clowns..the paragons of the spirit of this board???

[Kalhoun]

Well, I'm pretty sure that I am, in fact, better than her at almost anything that doesn't involve field dressing or birthin' babies. But that certainly has nothing to do with the question at hand.

Are you okay with how she presents herself? I'm not asking if you think she can handle the job, or if she's smart enough, or cute enough, or whathefuckever enough. I'm asking you if you're actually good with that downhome shitkicking image she portrays.

Word. We're not even done with the current pinhead shitkicker in chief and we've got another ignoramus with a fresh new steamin' cowpie standing at the ready to sully our sensibilities.

"Ya hey dere, Joe...winky, folksy blah, blah, blah"....aaaah, shaddup already.

[Lobohan]

Nice try to camoflage yourself to be non-partisan until the last sentance. What does Barney have to do with personality? If you wish to be stupid shout it out to the masses and not the 58 people on this bankrupt, both financially and idealistically, board.

Science isn't a partisan issue. The woman believes that dinosaurs and humans co-existed. That's just stupidity and willful ignorance. She'd rather believe what her (witch doctor) preacher tells her than what science has discovered.

That sort of person doesn't belong anywhere near policy.

[frankzafka]

I thought your panties were a little bunched there.

Yawn..In China.1:22 am. Have to work in the am. Keep me up, please. Idiot.

[Antinor01]

I could almost forgive the winking, the failure to fully pronounce nearly any word ending in G (especially words ending..forgive me endin' in ING) and the 'I'm just an Alaskan mom that don't know nothing about no politickin' ' attitude but the 'shout out' was completely out of place in that environment.

[frankzafka]

Science isn't a partisan issue. The woman believes that dinosaurs and humans co-existed. That's just stupidity and willful ignorance. She'd rather believe what her (witch doctor) preacher tells her than what science has discovered.

That sort of person doesn't belong anywhere near policy.

Don't be a moron. Bush was the last Dinosaur cum Neandertal go between and nothing has come of it. You're looking for boogie men and there's just nuttin there. There's plenty of other bonifide shit of hers to pick apart. And you know it. Be smart enough to find them.

[frankzafka]

I could almost forgive the winking, the failure to fully pronounce nearly any word ending in G (especially words ending..forgive me endin' in ING) and the 'I'm just an Alaskan mom that don't know nothing about no politickin' ' attitude but the 'shout out' was completely out of place in that environment.

And I find your Cali penchance for mispronouncing "y's" and "l's" cute and quite frankly butresses everything my midwestern parents thought about your "fruits" that I heard growing up.

Pronounciation is fair game, right?

[Morgenstern]

Look, she didn't fall off the stage, nor did she soil herself or puddle on the floor. She exceeded my expectations.

[Lobohan]

Don't be a moron. Bush was the last Dinosaur cum Neandertal go between and nothing has come of it. You're looking for boogie men and there's just nuttin there. There's plenty of other bonifide shit of hers to pick apart. And you know it. Be smart enough to find them.

It is a problem. Someone who believes in creationism has a vested interest in appointing supreme court justices who are amenable to it. I've said it before, a president Palin (which could happen if McCain gets within ten feet of the controls for Air Force One) would just have to get five likely supreme court candidates who are willing to be evasive about their evangelical bend and she'll get one two or three in over the course of her term (I believe three of them will be over the average lifespan by that time).

If that happens say goodbye to abortion rights and say hello to moments of prayer in school, intelligent design in science class, and the ten commandments (the christian version of course) on the walls of every public building.

She's a mental midget. Creationists are ignorant and delusional, all of them. Every single one. They don't belong setting policy.

[pseudotriton ruber ruber]

Look, she didn't fall off the stage, nor did she soil herself or puddle on the floor. She exceeded my expectations.

Personally, I felt that if she did soil herself, some Pubbie woulda come along and explained "Hey, she did fine: she didn't pick it up and eat it like a Snickers bar, did she?"

[Antinor01]

And I find your Cali penchance for mispronouncing "y's" and "l's" cute and quite frankly butresses everything my midwestern parents thought about your "fruits" that I heard growing up.

Pronounciation is fair game, right?

Not really in this case since I grew up in the midwest. (Central Ohio to be precise)

I'm not sure what you mean though about misprouncing y's and l's. Unless you're referring to spanish words, in which case the argument doesn't hold up.

[frankzafka]

Look, she didn't fall off the stage, nor did she soil herself or puddle on the floor. She exceeded my expectations.

Perhaps where you come from not pissing or shitting yourself is aiming high? Probably your parents' fault, however. Next life you can maybe be a Govenor. Or maybe not...

[tdn]

the failure to fully pronounce nearly any word ending in G (especially words ending..forgive me endin' in ING)

That's the first I'm readin' about that on this board. Holy crap, that bugged me. I understand droppin' the G in casual speech, but it seems way out of place in a formal event.

It never bugged me more than several years ago, when I was talkin' to a guy who did that even with words not endin' with a present participle. "Chicago is the home to the Chrystler Buildin'." *Shudder*

Is it a midwest thin'?

[Kalhoun]

It is a problem. Someone who believes in creationism has a vested interest in appointing supreme court justices who are amenable to it. I've said it before, a president Palin (which could happen if McCain gets within ten feet of the controls for Air Force One) would just have to get five likely supreme court candidates who are willing to be evasive about their evangelical bend and she'll get one two or three in over the course of her term (I believe three of them will be over the average lifespan by that time).

If that happens say goodbye to abortion rights and say hello to moments of prayer in school, intelligent design in science class, and the ten commandments (the christian version of course) on the walls of every public building.

She's a mental midget. Creationists are ignorant and delusional, all of them. Every single one. They don't belong setting policy.

Yeah, but as a combination senator/VP, just think of the possibilities!!

[frankzafka]

It is a problem. Someone who believes in creationism has a vested interest in appointing supreme court justices who are amenable to it. I've said it before, a president Palin (which could happen if McCain gets within ten feet of the controls for Air Force One) would just have to get five likely supreme court candidates who are willing to be evasive about their evangelical bend and she'll get one two or three in over the course of her term (I believe three of them will be over the average lifespan by that time).

If that happens say goodbye to abortion rights and say hello to moments of prayer in school, intelligent design in science class, and the ten commandments (the christian version of course) on the walls of every public building.

She's a mental midget. Creationists are ignorant and delusional, all of them. Every single one. They don't belong setting policy.

So, if she becomes President, which I highly doubt, Creationism will rule the land and supplant all accumulated knowledge? Just like Obama has stated he doesn't think same sex marriage is equal to het marriage. So gays will be outlawed? Come on idiot.. Think before posting next time.

[Antinor01]

That's the first I'm readin' about that on this board. Holy crap, that bugged me. I understand droppin' the G in casual speech, but it seems way out of place in a formal event.

It never bugged me more than several years ago, when I was talkin' to a guy who did that even with words not endin' with a present participle. "Chicago is the home to the Chrystler Buildin'." *Shudder*

Is it a midwest thin'?

I've heard it in the South mostly. I can't say that I'm familiar with Alaskan regionalisms, so I don't know if that is 'typical alaskan' or if it is an affectation she put on to sound more....down home I suppose is a term that would fit.

[frankzafka]

Not really in this case since I grew up in the midwest. (Central Ohio to be precise)

I'm not sure what you mean though about misprouncing y's and l's. Unless you're referring to spanish words, in which case the argument doesn't hold up.

Western Illiniois--my point stands in your pronunciation, in spades. Hint: I like Ohio. We just think you're quaint. And our Coulmbus friends say I speak like an Alambama sth or other. As an aside have you notice Appalachian drawl has crept towards you as of even date?

[Lobohan]

So, if she becomes President, which I highly doubt, Creationism will rule the land and supplant all accumulated knowledge? Just like Obama has stated he doesn't think same sex marriage is equal to het marriage. So gays will be outlawed? Come on idiot.. Think before posting next time.Look, I know I'm smarter than you... but you have to try to keep up. Do you think that getting the SCOTUS to overturn the prohibition against teaching creationism is a small thing? Aside from the fact that it's stupid, it also would make the US the laughingstock of the world.

You obviously aren't trying hard here. Please, furrow those little brows and actually rub the few neurons you have that aren't dedicated to being an intarweb failure together for a second.

Of course if you have an argument that isn't a strawman I'll gladly listen to it.

[Antinor01]

Western Illiniois--my point stands in your pronunciation, in spades. Hint: I like Ohio. We just think you're quaint. And our Coulmbus friends say I speak like an Alambama sth or other. As an aside have you notice Appalachian drawl has crept towards you as of even date?

Not particularly. I am prone to occasionally saying y'all, but would make it a point to not do so in a formal setting like a debate. Of course you have never heard me speak and are referring to generalities where my issues with Palin are in direct reference to her speech quirks.

But then also, I am not running to be Vice President and if I were I would ensure that my speech patterns were as polished as possible.

[Steve MB]

Her performance was so ridiculously wretched that I can't imagine how anyone with two functioning brain cells is buying it.

1. Shuffle talking point flash cards.

2. Deal out a spread.

3. Do a Tarot-style reading of the result.

[tdn]

I've heard it in the South mostly. I can't say that I'm familiar with Alaskan regionalisms, so I don't know if that is 'typical alaskan' or if it is an affectation she put on to sound more....down home I suppose is a term that would fit.

I'm not sure either. To me Palin seems like she'd fit right in to the cast of Fargo, but as I understand it, the accents in that movie were far from accurate. I was under the impression that Chicagoans talk a bit like that, though.

[frankzafka]

Look, I know I'm smarter than you... but you have to try to keep up. Do you think that getting the SCOTUS to overturn the prohibition against teaching creationism is a small thing? Aside from the fact that it's stupid, it also would make the US the laughingstock of the world.

You obviously aren't trying hard here. Please, furrow those little brows and actually rub the few neurons you have that aren't dedicated to being an intarweb failure together for a second.

Of course if you have an argument that isn't a strawman I'll gladly listen to it.

Listen up Shithead. I doubt you are smarter than me, whatever that means, nor better looking, nor richer. How's that? If you think SCOTUS is that stupid or the D controlled Senate would approve of another far right appointee..well you get what you vote for. And then again you were never that smart anyway.

Anywho, I'm in China and the one week vacation is coming to a close in 4 hours. Got to get to my factory in the am. Love it here in the SDMB, just wish I had the time to stick around. I really do appreciate the criticism, both personally and critically, as it will definitely give me sth. to chew on.

I must apologize that I have to bow out for two days due to work commitments but certainly hope to be able see you all again in GD or IMHO as you have so many insights and opinions that are extremely weighty. I do apologize for being an ass, but I guess that is why we're in the PIT.

Zai Jian. Be Safe. Have Fun.

[Jackmannii]

The wolves were hungry at the prospect of the banquet last night.But then Sarah shot them from the lofty plane of her rhetoric, thus sparing the panicked Republican caribou from predation!

An inspiring tale for the kiddies.

[tdn]

I do apologize for being an ass, but I guess that is why we're in the PIT.

The common wisdom around here is that while it is OK to be an ass in the Pit, it's not actually mandatory. One would think that your sole goal here is to alienate every single person on the board. You'd do well to pull back a bit and be civil.

[frankzafka]

I'm not sure either. To me Palin seems like she'd fit right in to the cast of Fargo, but as I understand it, the accents in that movie were far from accurate. I was under the impression that Chicagoans talk a bit like that, though.

Very True.. In Western part of the state we have "hillbilly" speech mixed with "Chichago" and "Wishconsin/Michican/Canada" blush. Luckily we all like cheese, beer and mostly the Cubs(hail Mary, please!!)

But the lazt tongue from the south is slowly taking over.

[frankzafka]

The common wisdom around here is that while it is OK to be an ass in the Pit, it's not actually mandatory. One would think that your sole goal here is to alienate every single person on the board. You'd do well to pull back a bit and be civil.

Good Advice..Very much noted.

[Lobohan]

Listen up Shithead. I doubt you are smarter than me, whatever that means, nor better looking, nor richer. How's that? If you think SCOTUS is that stupid or the D controlled Senate would approve of another far right appointee..well you get what you vote for. And then again you were never that smart anyway.

Anywho, I'm in China and the one week vacation is coming to a close in 4 hours. Got to get to my factory in the am. Love it here in the SDMB, just wish I had the time to stick around. I really do appreciate the criticism, both personally and critically, as it will definitely give me sth. to chew on.

I must apologize that I have to bow out for two days due to work commitments but certainly hope to be able see you all again in GD or IMHO as you have so many insights and opinions that are extremely weighty. I do apologize for being an ass, but I guess that is why we're in the PIT.

Zai Jian. Be Safe. Have Fun.

We'll be waiting. Have fun.

On topic, slipping a conservative in could very well happen. They just have to find five of them. Five evangelical lawyers and judges willing to be evasive on the conformation block. Do you think the American public is going to sit still for five vote-downs? The democrats would look like they were partisan and "playing politics". So no they can't very well shoot down five nominees in this climate. So please, just because you can't imagine how it would happen doesn't mean it can't, it means you have a weak imagination.

[frankzafka]

We'll be waiting. Have fun.

On topic, slipping a conservative in could very well happen. They just have to find five of them. Five evangelical lawyers and judges willing to be evasive on the conformation block. Do you think the American public is going to sit still for five vote-downs? The democrats would look like they were partisan and "playing politics". So no they can't very well shoot down five nominees in this climate. So please, just because you can't imagine how it would happen doesn't mean it can't, it means you have a weak imagination.

Uh...the Dems can be partisan as they have a majority and will have(I'm also hoping) a Dem Pres. They would have a mandate to be partisan.
Think first. Post later.

Good night.

[Lobohan]

Uh...the Dems can be partisan as they have a majority and will have(I'm also hoping) a Dem Pres. They would have a mandate to be partisan.
Think first. Post later.

Good night.

Uh, the issue wouldn't come up if they had a Dem president. Aren't you following along? :D

[Don't fight the hypothetical]

But then Sarah shot them from the lofty plane of her rhetoric, thus sparing the panicked Republican caribou from predation!

OK, that's funny.

[Spiny Norman]

Reality imitates art, such as it is: Sinfest (http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=2932)

[Prelude to Fascination]

Maybe I'm not following you here, but it seems the masses were salivating at the thought of a Palin gaffe-filled show of horrors. It didn't happen.

This morning all we got is "She made a shout out" and "She is trying to be too folksy." Lean pickin's on "enough meat-covered bones over the course of the 90 minutes to fill us for awhile."

It just smacks of desperation to find SOMETHING to keep the waters chummed for the sharks* here.

*Ok.. last of the animal metaphors, I promise.

It's easy to miss particular posts around here; but I do believe I've posted more than just about her folksiness. I didn't like the fact she wanted to expand the VP's role--in fact, I believe I rhetorically asked if she wanted to change the title from Vice President to Co-President. Not funny, perhaps, but more than just, OMG! Look at her glasses! And she gave a shout-out to a third grade class and gave them extra credit!

I think she did better last night than in the Couric interviews, but let's face it: that's not saying much. After all, she's been at this, what? Five weeks? And it's obvious she's a Washington outsider. Maybe if she talks to us more often without being filtered by the media, then we can get to know her, and like her like we're supposed to.

In the meantime, we work with what we've got, and the McCain camp has kept her away from the tough questions, and it's obvious why.

[DanBlather]

I could almost forgive the winking, the failure to fully pronounce nearly any word ending in G.I bet she pronounces the G when she says how tolerant she is of fags.

[Antinor01]

I bet she pronounces the G when she says how tolerant she is of fags.

Though I wouldn't surprised if she emphasized the F.

[woodstockbirdybird]

Listen up Shithead. I doubt you are smarter than me, whatever that means, nor better looking, nor richer.

Smarter than I.

[Acid Lamp]

Smarter than I.

:)

[maladroit]

It bothered me when she ignored the questions, and does she not know what an achiles heel is or just not pay attention? It bothered me when she talked about all the things terrorists hate about our country because those are all the things she and her party would like to deprive us of. I thought her concept of more flexibility in the vp role was abhorent. But since we're also talking about some of the little annoying things, I'm surprised no one else has mentioned her hair in her eyes - holy crap, I couldn't concentrate on what she was saying for the first 20 min or so I was so distracted. It's like talking to someone with spinach in their teeth. And 'Nucular' god help us all. I looked up the term "glad hander" and wasn't surprised to find disingenuous politician in the definition. Way too chirpy Sarah.

Oh, I don't think this is horribly important but when Biden had his emotional moment, mentioning if his son 'was gonna make it', well, his son deployed to Iraq today so I'd judge it legitimate.

[ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies]

It bothered me when she ignored the questions, and does she not know what an achiles heel is or just not pay attention? It bothered me when she talked about all the things terrorists hate about our country because those are all the things she and her party would like to deprive us of. I thought her concept of more flexibility in the vp role was abhorent. But since we're also talking about some of the little annoying things, I'm surprised no one else has mentioned her hair in her eyes - holy crap, I couldn't concentrate on what she was saying for the first 20 min or so I was so distracted. It's like talking to someone with spinach in their teeth. And 'Nucular' god help us all. I looked up the term "glad hander" and wasn't surprised to find disingenuous politician in the definition. Way too chirpy Sarah.

Oh, I don't think this is horribly important but when Biden had his emotional moment, mentioning if his son 'was gonna make it', well, his son deployed to Iraq today so I'd judge it legitimate.

The "Achilles heel" response really stuck out at me too at first. I was listening to it on the radio in the car, so I didn't have any visual cues to help me figure out if she had been whooshed, or if she really did just launch herself into a list of her strengths without even acknowledging that the moderator had asked for a self-assessment of her biggest weakness, or what.

Biden pretty much listed a list of strengths too, but at least acknowledged the actual question. I was kinda hoping he'd really nail that opportunity to give a thoughtful and complete answer in counterpoint to Palin, but emphasizing weaknesses in oneself is not what many politicians want to spend much time on, I suppose.

Listening on the radio, I had no idea about the winking and such until I got home, and learning about it certainly decreased her points in my book.

[Morgenstern]

Perhaps where you come from not pissing or shitting yourself is aiming high? Probably your parents' fault, however. Next life you can maybe be a Govenor. Or maybe not...

Actually it was a reference to how low a bar I had set for Miss Wasilla's debut.
I guess she isn't the only one in need of a low bar setting. By the way, what's a Govenor?

[tdn]

It bothered me when she ignored the questions, and does she not know what an achiles heel is or just not pay attention?

I think she knows what an Achille's heel is, but she struck me as someone who won't admit to any faults. That's what cost John Silber the MA gubanatorial election in 1990. But unlike Silber, Palin didn't respond like a petulant child.

The hair bothered me too. Though I don't like her much, I think that she's a very attractive woman. But dayum, she needs to stop seeing Donald Trump's hairdresser.

[faithfool]

I think she knows what an Achille's heel is, but she struck me as someone who won't admit to any faults. That's what cost John Silber the MA gubanatorial election in 1990. But unlike Silber, Palin didn't respond like a petulant child.

Similarly, when asked what might have to be cut back in their platforms due to recent developements, didn't she basically say that everything would continue forward pretty much the same? No matter which party affiliation (or independently) I'm beholden to, I'd prefer my choice in leadership to be able to reconsider positions and admit fault. I realize that in general their probably not very big on that, but in light of the past 8 years with Bush, I feel this is critical.

Over all though, I think she did well enough. The folksiness in general didn't bother me (and I thought the shout out was kind of cute, if out of place), but I can certainly see why it would be considered inappropriate for the station she's aspiring to and how other head's of state would perceive such. I wish there'd have been less focus on soundbites and more content, but I'm assuming if one has to cram so much knowledge in within a short amount of time, that's the best you can hope for. She did come across as assertive and confident, as well as able to hold the viewer's attention. At least in my humble opinion.

I thought Biden came across as well-versed and personable, although not being completely familiar with him, I was concerned that his emotional choke-up would be indeed seen as a ploy. Overall, I don't think either made a mess or handed up any gaffes so to speak, but if we're going on sticking closer to actual content and specifically answering the questions (as much as politicians are able), then I'd give the edge to Biden because truly, expectations were so low for Palin that any decent performance translates well, and I'd hope that the public would put a bit of a higher premium on end result rather than personality.

I do want my leaders to be more intelligent than I am. Also, I'd like for them to have a competent, commanding presence that will be taken seriously within the context of the job they'll perform. I don't mind some (or even a lot) of down-home qualities being in attendance, as long as the others take precedence.

/armchair neophyte useless political oservations

[rayh]

And I find your Cali penchance for mispronouncing "y's" and "l's" cute and quite frankly butresses everything my midwestern parents thought about your "fruits" that I heard growing up.

Pronounciation is fair game, right?

Shit, you all sound funny to me.

[maladroit]

I can't cite any reference for the following but I heard somewhere on tv a throwaway to the effect that you can tell she has no gay friends by her hair

[Count Blucher]

Didn't you mean,
"Maverick maverick McCain maverick maverick Wink "

Palin is WAY, WAY out of her depth.

No Shit. About the only saving grace if 'maverick' McCain pulls out a Victory and dies in office (Thank You God for the Miracle...! :rolleyes:) is that instead of this 4-inch heeled ditze taking office, Rove may just replace him with James Garner...

[buttonjockey308]

Eh. I didn't read the whole post but I can find a dozen things I don't like about her politics, winking at her father and shouting-out to a third grade class seem pretty fookin low on the bar, besides, people love that shit.

[anya marie]

My two least favorite barfworthy moments from Governor Palin were "Say it ain't so, Joe!" and the bit about how Biden's wife will get "a reward in heaven" for being a teacher.



I think i've seen smarter things growing grey fuzz in my refrigerator.

[DanBlather]

My two least favorite barfworthy moments from Governor Palin were "Say it ain't so, Joe!" and the bit about how Biden's wife will get "a reward in heaven" for being a teacher.I wish Biden had said that maybe teachers should get their reward on earth and CEOs of failing companies can wait to get theirs.

[AngryIrishLass]

Eh. I didn't read the whole post but I can find a dozen things I don't like about her politics, winking at her father and shouting-out to a third grade class seem pretty fookin low on the bar, besides, people love that shit.

I have to agree with this. If she hadn't done something showing her soft, motherly side, there'd be bitching that she's a unfeeling bitch like someone else we know. The hair did bug the shit out of me though - she's not that busy that she can't get 1/4 inch trimmed off the 80s do.* All in all, I think she did better than I thought she would, though I guess all that shows is she is good at rote memorization.

*which, for the record, I'm fine with. I can do an 80s do! If they come back in style, I'm all over dragging out the feathered hair and hotrollers.

[Really Not All That Bright]

My two least favorite barfworthy moments from Governor Palin were "Say it ain't so, Joe!" and the bit about how Biden's wife will get "a reward in heaven" for being a teacher.
Smacked on the knuckles with St. Peter's ruler, I bet.

[Shakes]

I' surprised nobody caught the "Hockey Moms" reference.


It's SOCER MOMS! Sarah!!

[Prelude to Fascination]

She can change the rules. She's a Maver-------

[This poster has been taken to the re-education camps for using a certain word.]

[A shameful cracka...]

I loved SNLs take on the debates - "Do you mind if I call you Joe? Because I've practiced a couple of zingers where I call you Joe".

Makes you wonder if we would have heard the "Say it ain't so, Joe" if he had insisted on more formality.

[Snowboarder Bo]

VT,
Glad to hear THIS answer. Kind of puts my faith back into these boards. I know you make no pretention to your leaning but glad to see some people put some thoughts into their posts and not the nastiest, thoughtless shit that first floods their compromised noodle.

Cheers.

:rolleyes:

Listen up Shithead.

Perhaps where you come from not pissing or shitting yourself is aiming high? Probably your parents' fault, however.

And I find your Cali penchance for mispronouncing "y's" and "l's" cute and quite frankly butresses everything my midwestern parents thought about your "fruits" that I heard growing up.

Come on idiot.. Think before posting next time.

Good advice; you should take it.

[tnetennba]

Sarah Palin is Tina Fey's best friend ever. She just got a SIX MILLION dollar advance on a humor book. I bet it would have been six figures two months ago. Still really respectable, but holy cow.

[Shamozzle]

It was better than Biden's fake choke-up.
For the record, can we call these 'faux-ke ups? Surely I'm not alone on this.

[Shamozzle]

Sarah Palin is Tina Fey's best friend ever. She just got a SIX MILLION dollar advance on a humor book. I bet it would have been six figures two months ago. Still really respectable, but holy cow.
Tina Fey has said that she hopes she's done playing Palin come November.

[xanthous]

I've read in a few places that Palin might be appearing on SNL (http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/1203739,CST-FTR-fey05.article). I hope that won't happen. It would totally ruin the fun for me, personally.

[Shamozzle]

I've read in a few places that Palin might be appearing on SNL (http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/zwecker/1203739,CST-FTR-fey05.article). I hope that won't happen. It would totally ruin the fun for me, personally.
If so, I can't see it being anything beyond one of those cruel "ugly parties" where the frat boys contend to invite the ugliest girls under false pretenses.