View Full Version : I'm considering selling stuff on ebay. Got any advice?
PatriotGrrrl
11-27-2008, 12:47 PM
I recently realized I have way too may knickknacks, books I'm never gonna read again, clothes that are nice but not my style or don't fit, etc. etc. etc.
So I made an eBay account. I already have a Paypal account. I have a nice digital camera, so taking good pictures of stuff won't be a problem.
One thing I'm wondering is how do I know how much to ask for shipping?
I'm sure there are lots of sites with advice, but I figured I'd ask you folks as well Also, do you have any funny stories, or horror stories, about buying and selling stuff online?
Sunspace
11-27-2008, 12:49 PM
I think a lot of people will only ship within their country, which means predictable postal rates and not having to deal with customs brokers. That simplifies things a lot.
initech
11-27-2008, 01:06 PM
My best advice:
Start your 10-day auction late on a Thursday night. Your auction will run through two weekends, concluding on Sunday evening. Lots of people home on Sunday nights.
Look for completed auctions featuring the same (or similar) item you want to sell. Cut and paste the description line from the most effective completed auction. No sense reinventing the wheel. Cut and paste descriptions willy nilly, using Amazon, other auctions, etc.
You can figure out shipping rates by looking to other auctions of the same item for guidance.
Good luck!
vivalostwages
11-27-2008, 01:19 PM
One good pic per item should be enough, unless it has different aspects which need to be shown.
Figure in some charges for handling, as it will cost you to buy cardboard, boxes, envelopes, tape, ink, paper, etc.
Buy a postal scales and weigh the item on it to help determine shipping charges.
There is a shipping wizard as well.
Describe items in detail and accurately. Many people will buy flawed items as long as you indicate the flaws honestly. "As is."
Tell people buying fragile items that they should buy insurance too.
Do not accept money orders. Mostly they're fine, but if they spell your name wrong, the bank won't take it and it turns into a hassle for both parties. Insist on Paypal. Actually, I think eBay is phasing out money orders anyway because there have been so many problems.
I have had no problems with international orders, but I can understand people not wanting to deal with this.
Two words: Delivery confirmation. It is worth the bit of extra money.
Leaffan
11-27-2008, 02:29 PM
Do you folks in the US face the same taxation (http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2007/09/27/ebay.html) scrutiny that's coming our way?
Swallowed My Cellphone
11-27-2008, 02:35 PM
My advice: Craig's List. Local folks who can hand you cash no shipping required, no farting around with PayPal. I gave up on eBay years ago.
NinjaChick
11-27-2008, 02:45 PM
If someone wants you to ship something to Nigeria, it is a scam and the only thing you should do is report it to eBay. And of course, don't ship anything until you actually have the payment in your bank account.
Busy Scissors
11-27-2008, 03:05 PM
I use ebay a lot for buying and selling bike parts, it works out OK but is a lot of hassle compared to other cycling sites I use. Putting a lot of listings up at the same time makes it more bearable.
I'd recommend taking good pictures - doesn't have to be professional quality or anything like that, just in focus, well lit and framed.
I think you might struggle to sell second hand clothes on ebay unless you have something especially interesting. Happy to be corrected, but I tried putting up a few of my wife's endless supply of cast offs and got little interest. Clothes are so cheap nowadays that people can just buy them new. Books, cds etc will sell no bother and are a good way of building up feedback. You can search for completed listings to see what price things went for, that will let you know how the land lies for different items.
I don't bother with a reserve price, just stick it on at 99p and see what happens. If I'm selling an item that's actually worth a few quid I might consider a reserve. I'm about to put up a new bike frame that retails for around £700, for example, but it's a quiet time for this sort of sale. A reserve can be useful in this sort of situation.
Mangetout
11-27-2008, 03:46 PM
Always use a trackable shipping method.
Don't let anyone hustle, bullshit, charm, or guilt you into shipping the goods before you're absolutely sure you have the money - and use your means to check receipt of the payment - don't, for example, rely on what appears to be an automated PayPal email notification of payment - check your actual account.
Package your sold items on the assumption that someone will drop kick the parcel.
Don't forget to factor the reasonable cost of packing materials into your shipping costs (or consider their implications to your margin), but don't overcharge for postage.
DMark
11-27-2008, 04:12 PM
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gonzomax
11-27-2008, 04:17 PM
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Can you buy one on Ebay.?
DMark
11-27-2008, 04:39 PM
Can you buy one on Ebay.?
HA!
Apocalypso
11-27-2008, 09:01 PM
Package the item and weigh it. Then go to The US Postal Service website (http://www.usps.com/tools/calculatepostage/welcome.htm), and calculate the shipping cost from your zip code to the destination zip code. I noticed some ebay auctions allow you to enter your zip code and calculate shipping, but that's been added since I've sold stuff there. I would imagine you can enter the item weight and sending zip when listing the item, and it submits this to USPS along with the buyer zip code for pricing.
Also, if you're sending books or cd's, the Post Office has a "media mail" shipping, which is pretty cheap. I usually used Priority Mail though, and always charged people cost for shipping. Some people charge $7.00 to ship something, and when it gets to you, the shipping label says "$2.00". :mad:
DrDeth
11-28-2008, 12:57 AM
Do you folks in the US face the same taxation (http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2007/09/27/ebay.html) scrutiny that's coming our way?
Almost no one sells enough to be worried about that.
OP- start by selling only domestically.
Leave POS Feedback upon recieving payment.
Charge exact postage, Priority, then round up to the nearest dollar.
Use DC. Unless it's under $5, even then consider it.
Only insure for items that are expensive and fragile.
Do not use reserve prices.
Craigslist works well for some things. But there's a high fraud %. And most dudes want to pick it up or have you deliver, that limits your sales to fairly expensive items in a local area.
Chefguy
11-28-2008, 09:38 AM
Insured or not, be very clear that once the item leaves your possession, i.e., is in the hands of the postal service, it is no longer your responsibility. If the item is lost or stolen in the mail, it is not up to you to chase the insurance, nor are you obligated to refund the money.
Karyn
11-28-2008, 10:11 AM
My advice: Craig's List. Local folks who can hand you cash no shipping required, no farting around with PayPal. I gave up on eBay years ago.
I have a lot of expensive work and dressy clothes that I have no use for now that I've retired. I've already donated 7 boxes to the homeless shelter so what's left is mostly the very high end stuff and I was thinking about putting them on Craig's List since it's so easy. Have you had good luck with selling things that way?
DrDeth
11-28-2008, 12:40 PM
Insured or not, be very clear that once the item leaves your possession, i.e., is in the hands of the postal service, it is no longer your responsibility. If the item is lost or stolen in the mail, it is not up to you to chase the insurance, nor are you obligated to refund the money.
Totally and utterly wrong. The buyer is 100% responsible for getting the pyament to the seller, the seller is 100% responsible for getting the paid for goods to the buyer. If the goods are lost or stolen in the mail the seller must either refund are ship new stuff.
There is an exception, if you are shipping Freight, where you use FOB. There you sign an involved contract with the Freight company, where they take responsbility. eBay sellers do not use Frieght for hardly anything. You could also use FOB if the buyer selected and directly paid for the delivery and they picked up from you.
In either case, the point is moot- if you sell through eBay and Paypal, they will refund the buyers $$ if the buyer claims the goods were not rcvd and you can not prove delivery (by DC or USP signature or whatever. Prove of mailing is not enough). The refund will come from the sellers Paypal account.
Mangetout
11-28-2008, 01:51 PM
Totally and utterly wrong. The buyer is 100% responsible for getting the pyament to the seller, the seller is 100% responsible for getting the paid for goods to the buyer. If the goods are lost or stolen in the mail the seller must either refund are ship new stuff.
There is an exception, if you are shipping Freight, where you use FOB. There you sign an involved contract with the Freight company, where they take responsbility. eBay sellers do not use Frieght for hardly anything. You could also use FOB if the buyer selected and directly paid for the delivery and they picked up from you.
In either case, the point is moot- if you sell through eBay and Paypal, they will refund the buyers $$ if the buyer claims the goods were not rcvd and you can not prove delivery (by DC or USP signature or whatever. Prove of mailing is not enough). The refund will come from the sellers Paypal account.
I know we've disagreed on certain eBay matters before (and likely still do), but I agree with this completely.
Not only is it the seller's responsibility to get the item there safe and sound. Not only is it eBay's frequently-exercised policy to enforce refunds in the case of non-delivery...
But also: declaring "I'm not responsible once I've posted the item" in your listings will cause you all kinds of hassle, including:
--Lost sales - I know I just skip over listings that include a bunch of angsty T&Cs, and I know I'm not alone in this.
--Fraudulent buyers - if you're saying that it's not your responsibility once the item has left your hands, there's a fair chance you're not sending by a trackable method, which makes you a target for false claims of non-receipt.
--Nuisance bidders and auction interference - there are people on eBay whose annoyance with things like unreasonable T&Cs translates into vigilante flake bidding.
I Have Hippos In My Garden
11-28-2008, 01:58 PM
I personally really don't like ebay for selling things like books and electronics. There is too much hassle involved.
However, I do sell everything through Amazon. You don't need to take you're own picture and there are set shipping rates, and you often make more money than you would on Ebay. It is generally a lot quicker and easier-give it a go!
control-z
11-28-2008, 02:05 PM
Use this calculator (http://www.newlifeauctions.com/calc.html) to calculate what your eBay and PayPal costs will be. Take into account that you may have to list the item several times or more to sell it, and each time costs you to relist (although less then the original listing cost.)
Pay special attention to the PayPal fees, that's another 2.9% plus .30 in addition to the eBay fees. PayPal can fuck with your money too for no good reason, see below.
Keep in mind that if you set a reserve price that makes the auction much more expensive. You're better off just setting a starting price to the minimum you would sell it for, and be prepared to sell it for exactly that price too, because someone will get it!
Honestly I just listed some items on eBay and it's a PITA. They are really buyer-oriented now. PayPal decided to put "on hold" a $290 payment but still expected me to ship the item, because I had less than 100(!) feedback. I have a 6-year history with 100% good feedback, but only 65 feedbacks. :( What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Bastards. My bill is due for the items I bought to resell on eBay, but I might not get paid for 3 weeks, assuming the package gets to the buyer and they're happy.
Chefguy
11-28-2008, 02:11 PM
Totally and utterly wrong. The buyer is 100% responsible for getting the pyament to the seller, the seller is 100% responsible for getting the paid for goods to the buyer. If the goods are lost or stolen in the mail the seller must either refund are ship new stuff.
There is an exception, if you are shipping Freight, where you use FOB. There you sign an involved contract with the Freight company, where they take responsbility. eBay sellers do not use Frieght for hardly anything. You could also use FOB if the buyer selected and directly paid for the delivery and they picked up from you.
In either case, the point is moot- if you sell through eBay and Paypal, they will refund the buyers $$ if the buyer claims the goods were not rcvd and you can not prove delivery (by DC or USP signature or whatever. Prove of mailing is not enough). The refund will come from the sellers Paypal account.
Ignorance fought: I was unaware of that rule. Seems to me it leaves the seller open to fraud from buyers. Buyer receives item claims it never arrived, then gets a refund. I always make sure I get delivery confirmation for just that reason. I've only had two items ripped off in the mail and was able to resolve them amicably. I've really backed away from eBay and Paypal for everyday items because the damned fees get so expensive. If you try to compensate through "handling" charges, it discourages potential buyers. I try to sell only items that will probably capture interest and thus engender a bidding war.
Karyn: I've sold two cars on Craigslist and a lot of other miscellaneous stuff over the years. It works pretty darn well and is free. I'd recommend the following, though:
1. Don't use the email address function unless you want to start receiving spam. A spammer will send you a query about your item, which goes to the Craigslist email server. But when you respond to the query, they can then see your return email address and start sending you glurge. Post your phone number. It cuts down on the looky-loos.
2. If your item hasn't sold in a couple of weeks, cancel it and repost it. Craigslist doesn't like you doing this, but they really don't pay any attention. This moves your listing up to the present, so somebody will see it right away when they do a search. This is how I sold my last car: very little activity in the beginning, then BAM! when I reposted.
Justin_Bailey
11-28-2008, 02:16 PM
Honestly I just listed some items on eBay and it's a PITA. They are really buyer-oriented now. PayPal decided to put "on hold" a $290 payment but still expected me to ship the item, because I had less than 100(!) feedback. I have a 6-year history with 100% good feedback, but only 65 feedbacks. :( What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Bastards. My bill is due for the items I bought to resell on eBay, but I might not get paid for 3 weeks, assuming the package gets to the buyer and they're happy.
I've never heard of PayPal putting a "hold" on a payment. Are you sure it wasn't an "e-Check", because those little bitches take like two weeks to clear and I absolutely will not ship an item under any circumstance while it's still pending.
vivalostwages
11-28-2008, 03:21 PM
I never thought the buyer was responsible for what the USPS did with things after shipping...specifically, I recently shipped a margarita glass--it was perfectly intact and very well wrapped--which the buyer claimed arrived broken. I believe her, but she did not ask for a refund. She had not bought insurance either. I don't see how I could have been responsible for postal workers throwing the box around.
control-z
11-28-2008, 04:01 PM
I've never heard of PayPal putting a "hold" on a payment. Are you sure it wasn't an "e-Check", because those little bitches take like two weeks to clear and I absolutely will not ship an item under any circumstance while it's still pending.
Don't think so, unless PayPal accepts e-Checks. The PayPal status for one transaction says "Completed" and I have my money. The other says "On Hold - Ship now" and I haven't been credited the money. PayPal says basically they might do it for items over $100 if you have less than 100 positive feedbacks. I say that's unreasonable, I have 65 feedbacks that are 100% positive and I've used eBay and PayPal on and off for 6 years. So, YMMV.
Mangetout
11-28-2008, 06:09 PM
I never thought the buyer was responsible for what the USPS did with things after shipping...specifically, I recently shipped a margarita glass--it was perfectly intact and very well wrapped--which the buyer claimed arrived broken. I believe her, but she did not ask for a refund. She had not bought insurance either. I don't see how I could have been responsible for postal workers throwing the box around.
You may not be responsible for the breakage, but (at least according to eBay), you're accountable - if not, then the buyer is, which makes even less sense, because the buyer has absolutely no control over the packaging etc.
Mangetout
11-28-2008, 06:11 PM
Ignorance fought: I was unaware of that rule. Seems to me it leaves the seller open to fraud from buyers. Buyer receives item claims it never arrived, then gets a refund.I believe there's a limit on the number of non-delivery claims any one buyer can make - although I expect an enterprising fraudster could probably work around that.
beowulff
11-28-2008, 09:39 PM
I've never heard of PayPal putting a "hold" on a payment. Are you sure it wasn't an "e-Check", because those little bitches take like two weeks to clear and I absolutely will not ship an item under any circumstance while it's still pending.
Paypal now routinely puts a hold on your funds for a set time, or until the buyer leaves positive feedback. I have over 900 feedback (100% positive), and they still do it to me.
beowulff
11-28-2008, 09:40 PM
My advice: Craig's List. Local folks who can hand you cash no shipping required, no farting around with PayPal. I gave up on eBay years ago.
I've had poor luck with Craig's list. I'd be willing to bet that items sell faster and for more money on ebay - it's a global market.
control-z
11-28-2008, 10:41 PM
Paypal now routinely puts a hold on your funds for a set time, or until the buyer leaves positive feedback. I have over 900 feedback (100% positive), and they still do it to me.
So much for my plan of working my way up to 100 feedbacks. Bastards.
DrDeth
11-29-2008, 04:18 AM
Ignorance fought: I was unaware of that rule. Seems to me it leaves the seller open to fraud from buyers. Buyer receives item claims it never arrived, then gets a refund. I always make sure I get delivery confirmation for just that reason. I've .
If you can show Dc or similar proof of delivery, then the buyer is out of luck.
DrDeth
11-29-2008, 04:21 AM
Paypal now routinely puts a hold on your funds for a set time, or until the buyer leaves positive feedback. I have over 900 feedback (100% positive), and they still do it to me.
Only in certain areas of merchandise or if you have too many complaints. Assuming that you have been around for a while and have some decent # of FB.
beowulff
11-29-2008, 08:40 AM
Only in certain areas of merchandise or if you have too many complaints. Assuming that you have been around for a while and have some decent # of FB.
Here's the specifics on PayPal's hold: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Marketing/securitycenter/sell/SaferPayments-outside
vivalostwages
11-29-2008, 12:02 PM
I've had poor luck with Craig's list. I'd be willing to bet that items sell faster and for more money on ebay - it's a global market.
I have never tried Craig's list but have been amazed by what people will buy, and what they will pay for it, on eBay.
sugar and spice
11-29-2008, 01:25 PM
I've bought woman's clothing on eBay, my impression is that items that sell meet the following criteria:
- they are still in style, and actually a nice-looking garment to begin with. Vintage is something of a separate market that I can't comment on
- they are from a popular brand, or at least a brand with something of a following.
- items are priced pennies on the dollar, based on original sale price. As an example, I sold an Anne Taylor Loft dress for ~$8, I paid $40 on sale, the original price was ~$80.
It's best to post garment measurements in addition to just the size on the tag. And particularly with dresses, photos on mannequins (or a human) show off the item much better than on a hanger. And again, these are just my impressions, I'm not any sort of power seller.
DrDeth
11-30-2008, 12:20 AM
I've bought woman's clothing on eBay, my impression is that items that sell meet the following criteria:
- they are still in style, and actually a nice-looking garment to begin with. Vintage is something of a separate market that I can't comment on
- they are from a popular brand, or at least a brand with something of a following.
- items are priced pennies on the dollar, based on original sale price. As an example, I sold an Anne Taylor Loft dress for ~$8, I paid $40 on sale, the original price was ~$80.
It's best to post garment measurements in addition to just the size on the tag. And particularly with dresses, photos on mannequins (or a human) show off the item much better than on a hanger. And again, these are just my impressions, I'm not any sort of power seller.
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