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Kid_Gilligan
09-02-1999, 11:16 AM
I recently received the following forwarded email. While it sounds slightly plausible, it also resembles a lot of hoaxes that I have seen. One website I looked at said it was a Dominican Republic area code, and the rate for their long distance company was 7.9 cents per minute, but they quoted the same (7.9 cents/min.)rate when I entered 900 as the area code. And that's certainly not correct.

Well give it a look, and tell me what you think.



Subject: Fw: 809 Area Code Alert


verified by AT&T Fraud Control.

FRAUD AREA CODE - 809

Beware of e-mails, phone calls or electronic pages which tell you to call an
"809" area code phone number. This is a scam that is spreading extremely
quickly, can easily cost you $100.00 or more and is difficult to avoid
unless you are aware of it. This scam has been identified by the National
Fraud Information Center, which said it is costing victims lots of money.

There are lots of different versions of this scam, but here is how it works:

Version#1: Internet-Based Phone Scam Via E-mail. You receive an e-mail,
typically with a subject line of "ALERT" or "Unpaid Account." The message
says something to the effect "I am writing to give you a final 24 hrs to
settle your outstanding account. If I have not received the settlement in
full, I will commence legal proceedings without further delay. If you would
like to discuss this matter to avoid court action, call Mike Murray, Global
Communications at (809) 496-2700."

Version #2: Phone or Pager Scam. You receive a message on your answering
machine, voice mail, or your pager which asks you to call a number beginning
with area code "809." The reason you're asked to call can vary: It can be to
receive information about a family member who has been ill, to tell you
someone has been arrested, has died, or to let you know you have won a
wonderful prize, etc.

The common denominator for both of these versions is the victim is
instructed/asked to call the "809" number right away. Since there are so
many new area codes these days, people unknowingly return these calls. If
you call from the United States, you will apparently be charged $25.00
per-minute!

Sometimes the person who answers the phone will speak broken English and
pretend not to understand you. Other times, you'll just get a long recorded
message. The point is, they will try to keep you on the phone as long as
possible to increase the charges. Unfortunately, when you get your phone
bill, you'll often be charged more than $100!

The "809" area code is located in the British Virgin Islands (the Bahamas).
The "809" area code can be used as a "pay-per-call" number, similar to "900"
numbers in the U.S. Since "809" is not in the United States, it is not
covered by U.S. regulations of "900" numbers, which require that you be
notified and warned of charges and rates involved when you call a
"pay-per-call" number.

There is also no requirement that the company provide a time period during
which you may terminate the call without being charged. Further, where many
U.S. phones have "900" number blocking (to avoid these kinds of charges),
"900" number blocking will not prevent calls to the "809" area code. It is
recommended that no matter how you get the message, if you are asked to call
a number with an "809" area code that you don't recognize, investigate
further and/or disregard the message.

Be very wary of e-mail or calls asking you to call an "809" area code
number.


I would appreciate any info on this. Not that I need to know, but this has just picqued my interest.

omniscientnot
09-02-1999, 11:32 AM
Very true Kid. I saw a piece on T.V. in Canada a while ago on this same 809 scam. If you want to learn more, go to the Better Business Bureau site www.bbb.org (http://www.bbb.org) and click News and Alerts. There is a July 1997 Alert on this subject (There could be something more current elsewhere).

According to Pliny
09-02-1999, 11:36 AM
When did they move the Virgin Islands to the Bahamas?

TubaDiva
09-02-1999, 11:57 AM
Also see, from the Urban Legends pages, www.snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com) , 809 Area Code (http://www.snopes.com/spoons/faxlore/809.htm)

your humble TubaDiva
Sorry, wrong number

Rich Barr
09-02-1999, 04:44 PM
Papa Bear is right--the Bahamas and the British Virgin Islands are two different places. To call the Bahamas from the US requires a country code--242. The British Virgins (does that sound like a new group name for the Spice Girls, or what?) can be dialed as a regular long-distance number, but the area code is 284.

The Dominican Republic is in fact area code 809, as was said originally, and can be dialed without a country code. But since the warning didn't know that, it's safe to assume it's a hoax.

I'm not sure I've EVER come across an e-mail warning that wasn't a fake. I usually file such things with chain letters that assure me failing to pass it on will destroy my love life for all time.

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tanstaafl
09-02-1999, 10:32 PM
Actually, I once actually got a page with an strange area code. I didn't return it because I don't return long distance pages. (I have a support pager and have no reason to get paged from outside our local area.) I mentioned it a few days later at work (when my support week was up and I was passing the pager off to my relief) and they forwarded me more or less the same e-mail quoted above. So, those pages *do* show up. This was about a year and a half ago. I don't remember if it was an 809 area code or not, but it was definately a long distance number.

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Mr. Blue Sky
09-03-1999, 05:03 PM
I once got a fax from an 809 number that started with the following line:

"This is not a scam".


I don't what it was about since I didn't read past that and besides I was laughing too hard.