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Stink Fish Pot
09-17-2009, 03:38 AM
I can't believe it. After being tortured for decades, the no-talented, wind bagged winter warlock has been put to pasture. As much as I thought I detested Chris Collingsworth, it is actually a pleasure to listen to a SNF game that doesn't make me look for a brick to wing at my TV. Al Michaels, you've deserved better for years, and I'm so glad you didn't have to die to see the fat bastard retire.

I am actually going to have to think about what announcer drives me bonkers now. And that small, insignificant fact has me smiling like a butcher's dog.

Church bells should ring throughout the land! John Madden announces no more! Rejoice! It is the early Christmas present I've hoped for for so long. And it's even better than I could have imagined. Glory!

Khadaji
09-17-2009, 07:36 AM
It must be a tough job to be a color announcer - because so few do it well. Most of them drive me nuts but Madden made me more nuts than others. I'm glad he is gone.

Of course, my vote doesn't count because I was one of the odd ones who liked Dennis Miller...

Paintcharge
09-17-2009, 07:59 AM
While it's good that he can actually put together complete sentences and doesn't use either "Boom" or "Brett Favre" one every 30 seconds, Collinsworth does manage to sound like a condescending prick.

Terraplane
09-17-2009, 08:24 AM
I liked Madden. Sure he said stupid shit all the time but he's been a fixture in football for my whole life. He was like a lovable but partly senile grandpa. I'll miss hearing him.

FoieGrasIsEvil
09-17-2009, 08:27 AM
While it's good that he can actually put together complete sentences and doesn't use either "Boom" or "Brett Favre"
LOL!
I liked Madden. Sure he said stupid shit all the time but he's been a fixture in football for my whole life. He was like a lovable but partly senile grandpa. I'll miss hearing him.
I concur. I liked him, for whatever reason. Turduckeon, you will be missed.

Duke
09-17-2009, 08:40 AM
Ah, but you can still hear him prattling on in the Madden NFL series of video games, encouraging you to "cover deep" when your opponent is on your 5, and suggesting a blitz on every down whether it's 2nd and 20 or 4th and 1.

lieu
09-17-2009, 08:40 AM
The animosity some fans have towards Madden (all in good fun I suspect) has made me wonder before if I don't have ADD. I watch the game, there's a couple of guys chatting, relatively innocuous input really, and any emotion the experience elicits is focused squarely on the outcome as directed by the 22 guys on the field and them alone. Then the next day everyone's all "Madden sucks!" and I'm thinkin' what the fuck did I miss? Am I deef?

Then Theisman, Tirico and effin' Kornheiser come along. Now I realize my ears work perfecvtly fine. Now I realize how capable I am of being offended by colossal stupidity.

Call me weird but I liked Madden. A big ol' harmless goofball that occasionally made me chuckle and often times consider things I might not have otherwise.

Have a good retirement, John, and thanks for the color you added to the commentary.

E-Sabbath
09-17-2009, 08:43 AM
What you, what you got here, is a situation where someone who used to be talking, ain't talking any more. See, he was talking here, but over here, he's not talking. He's retired, and you don't go talking any more when you're retired. Of course, he could return for a special or something, and he could talk a little bit for that special, but after today, unless he returns, he's not talking anymore.

(I liked him, honestly.)

lieu
09-17-2009, 08:47 AM
Heh, you sir, you have a calling that needs to be explored.

gonzomax
09-17-2009, 09:10 AM
http://forums.rotoworld.com/lofiversion/index.php/t37917.html I hated Madden. He was comedy relief without trying to be. He was cringeworthy during every game. He took you right out of the action wondering' did he really just say that".

Marley23
09-17-2009, 09:12 AM
Call me weird but I liked Madden. A big ol' harmless goofball that occasionally made me chuckle and often times consider things I might not have otherwise.
I agree. He said blindingly obvious things sometimes and he was a big self-caricature, but he was not that bad. He did tell you some things that were worth knowing. And at least Madden made me laugh when he said ridiculous things.

Marley23
09-17-2009, 09:14 AM
http://forums.rotoworld.com/lofiversion/index.php/t37917.html I hated Madden. He was comedy relief without trying to be. He was cringeworthy during every game. He took you right out of the action wondering' did he really just say that".
There's a very famous Yogi Berra-ism on that list, which makes me wonder if any of the other quotes are accurate.

Gorsnak
09-17-2009, 09:21 AM
What you, what you got here, is a situation where someone who used to be talking, ain't talking any more. See, he was talking here, but over here, he's not talking. He's retired, and you don't go talking any more when you're retired. Of course, he could return for a special or something, and he could talk a little bit for that special, but after today, unless he returns, he's not talking anymore.

(I liked him, honestly.)

This is just wonderful. Needed the laugh, thanks.

(I liked him too.)

Oakminster
09-17-2009, 09:45 AM
I liked Madden, and wish he would come back. Also liked Howard Cosell and Dennis Miller.

AndyPolley
09-17-2009, 10:16 AM
I liked Madden, and wish he would come back. Also liked Howard Cosell and Dennis Miller.

Not that I'll miss him, but I thought Madden & Michaels were among the better booths in the NFL. I was a little disapointed to find out that it was Collinsworth doing the call in the Madden 10 game on PS3. I also liked Tony Kornheiser once they got Ron Jaworski in there. Actually, Chuckie in the booth on MNF was a disgrace. I hope he gets better.

Maybe I'm just not as driven to rage at football announcers as I am to ESPN's Baseball booth.

I'd rather have Tony Siragusa on play by play with Ty Pennington on color commentary and Carson Kressley with fasion tips for every football game than endure Joe Morgan.

ElvisL1ves
09-17-2009, 10:20 AM
I liked Madden. Sure he said stupid shit all the time but he's been a fixture in football for my whole life. He was like a lovable but partly senile grandpa. I'll miss hearing him.

Yep. It isn't always easy to remember that he was once a good enough coach to win a Super Bowl, and only found his real calling later in life.

He was always a reminder to relax and just have fun watching. Football isn't war, it's just entertainment, and Madden was as entertaining as any announcer could be. The All-Madden Team will be as badly missed as the Thanksgiving turducken and the Madden Cruiser.

furt
09-17-2009, 11:09 AM
There's a very famous Yogi Berra-ism on that list, which makes me wonder if any of the other quotes are accurate.Ditto. 90% bullshit.

I suspect many of Madden's detractors are youngsters who don't know

1) How really, really good when he started in the 80s. Yes, he sagged toward the end.
2) How lame other announcers were at the time. I think he raised the bar for what NFL analysts were expected to be.

BobLibDem
09-17-2009, 11:15 AM
I'd take Madden over ESPN's Pam Ward any day. I dream of the day that the Spartans will be lofty enough never to be relegated to a Pam Ward broadcast.

gonzomax
09-17-2009, 11:22 AM
Ditto. 90% bullshit.

I suspect many of Madden's detractors are youngsters who don't know

1) How really, really good when he started in the 80s. Yes, he sagged toward the end.
2) How lame other announcers were at the time. I think he raised the bar for what NFL analysts were expected to be.

One Yogi makes it 90 percent correct, not 90 percent wrong. I heard him say many of those stupid things.
http://www.postgamepub.com/sports-forums/nfl-general-discussion-forum/18157-favorite-john-maddenisms.html
heres more.

Diogenes the Cynic
09-17-2009, 11:23 AM
While it's good that he can actually put together complete sentences and doesn't use either "Boom" or "Brett Favre" one every 30 seconds, Collinsworth does manage to sound like a condescending prick.
I agree he can sound condescending, but at least he's knowledgeable and tells me things I don't know once in a while, instead of telling me that whoever scores the most points wins, or that the kicker has to kick the ball with his foot.

CC also isn't afraid to rip on sacred cows like Brady, Favre, Peyton Manning if they make dumb mistakes or have a bad game. I remember that playoff game between Green Bay and Philly (the 4th and 26 game) when Favre wheeled and threw blindly down the field in OT going for the homerun, and ended up getting picked. Collinsworth went after Favre unmercifully for that, even as his partners in the booth (I no longer remember who they were that day) were trying to make the usual apologies for him. Everyone remembers the 4th and 26 conversion, but it was really Favre's interception that cost the Packers that game, and CC was the only one in the booth who was willing to say it.

AppallingGael
09-17-2009, 11:30 AM
One Yogi makes it 90 percent correct, not 90 percent wrong. I heard him say many of those stupid things.


Also, who knows if Yogi really said it? He never said half the things he said, after all.

Skywatcher
09-17-2009, 11:31 AM
"And then kinda out, too, and then...that's probably because it's a...a cantilever. This is a cantilever field. And, yaknow, 'cantilever' I think means this stuff where we've got this overhang. See, I think...I think when you go up and come out like that, that means 'cantilever'...or that's what 'cantliever' means. And we got a cantilever stadium here and..and then we're up above in the cantilever...the cantilever's over our head and we're up above lookin' down." - John Madden rambling during a game at the University of Washington. (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11045714#post11045714)

Marley23
09-17-2009, 11:40 AM
Also, who knows if Yogi really said it? He never said half the things he said, after all.
Right. My guess is that a lot of Madden's quotes, like the cow jumping over the moon one, are just apocryphal. And many shouldn't be taken seriously if they are legit.

pricciar
09-17-2009, 01:07 PM
I always enjoyed Madden. I get why he is hated. But, I thought he did a great job of making the game accessible to a wider audience, while giving interesting insider perspectives.

Collinsworth is a lot better than I thought he would be. He always appeared so smarmy on Inside The NFL; I didn't think he would be tolerable for the 3 hours of a game. He's just fine. He offers plenty of good insights and mixes it with some good humor. One thing that I find lacking is that I don't feel like the game is huge when he is broadcasting as I did with Madden. Maybe over time Collinsworth will exude that big game vibe as much as Madden did.

Cyberhwk
09-17-2009, 11:00 PM
You see...what happened here is...after years in the broadcasting booth, John Madden has retired. He's quit and Chris Collinsworth has taken over his position on Monday Night Footballl. This is why John Madden is no longer here and Chris Collinsworth is.
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Liberal
09-17-2009, 11:08 PM
Oh Dallas no! Now Dallas who's Miami going to tell me 49ers all about the Raiders (did I mention Dallas?) great teams Pittsburgh of the Dallas 80s Dallas?

Gatopescado
09-18-2009, 02:04 PM
Lou Holtz is still allowed to flap his juicy jowls on TV. With Madden gone, now you can focus your hatred where it belongs.

Marley23
09-18-2009, 02:47 PM
Lou Holtz is still allowed to flap his juicy jowls on TV.
Thank you, you read my mind. I guess my life would be a little poorer without my and my brother's impression of Holtz, but still. And then there's Lee Corso...

Darth Sensitive
09-18-2009, 03:14 PM
Thank you, you read my mind. I guess my life would be a little poorer without my and my brother's impression of Holtz, but still. And then there's Lee Corso...

Not so fast my friend!


Concentrate on Dukie V!

FoieGrasIsEvil
09-18-2009, 04:18 PM
I miss the Summerall/Madden combo most of all from back in the day. I think they were the best.

Stink Fish Pot
09-20-2009, 02:55 PM
I miss the Summerall/Madden combo most of all from back in the day. I think they were the best.

I might throw you Summerall/Brookshire, but Madden was a big tub of goo with nothing to say. Ever. Boom!

Lou Holtz... Good call on that slobbery bastard. His tongue is twice as big as the average human's. He might be popular with the ladies, but announcing? Sheesh. I have to wipe the screen down every time he does an "S"-laden sentence.

[Buddy Hinton]
Baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk!
[/Buddy Hinton]

And I honestly think Dickey V's head is going to explode on national tv. BAY-BEEE! But let's try to keep this dear old thread to football.

Oh, and I almost forgot. How great is it not to have Tony "Have I mentioned I am Jewish in the last 10 minutes?" Kornheiser on the Monday Night Team? I think they might have a good combo there finally. Mike Tirico is a class act, and Gruden is much better than I thought he'd be.


Still, no John Madden. Al Michales must be thanking strangers on the street.