2012 overload-

[gonzomax]

History channel is running a series, " the Nostradamus Effect", which somehow ties him into 2012, the end of the world. There have been several specials of Myan Prophesy and 2012.
Do we have to have 3 years of this? How goofy is it going to get in Nov. /Dec. 2012 ?. I am tired of it already. But the nuts are going to fired up like never before. If it builds up, we are going to see nothing but end of the world crap in 2010 thru 2012.
Give me a break .

[BrainGlutton]

History channel is running a series, " the Nostradamus Effect", which somehow ties him into 2012, the end of the world. There have been several specials of Myan Prophesy and 2012.
Do we have to have 3 years of this? How goofy is it going to get in Nov. /Dec. 2012 ?. I am tired of it already. But the nuts are going to fired up like never before. If it builds up, we are going to see nothing but end of the world crap in 2010 thru 2012.
Give me a break .

"Like never before"?! Have you already forgotten 1999 and Y2K?!

[Squink]

Give me a break .Step away from the television set.

[silenus]

The world will end in 2012 because they will do anything to prevent Obama winning a second term. :D

[Morgyn]

I've been having loads of fun watching these. The material is better than you see in most sitcoms. You can almost hear The Twilight Zone music playing in the background.

[Zsofia]

Try being a librarian. We don't have any more books on 2012 because they've all been stolen.

[gonzomax]

Try being a librarian. We don't have any more books on 2012 because they've all been stolen.

You have plenty of time to keep rebuying them. May bend your budget a little.
I wonder how crazy some people are going to get? This one has years to feed the nuts and convince the weak. The going could get weird.

[Oakminster]

I hope something really freaky and/or cataclysmic does happen. The end of the world has to be pretty frakkin cool....:D

[Shakes]

Just be glad you're not related to one of these whack jobs.

My sister wants the whole family to get together on this day "just in case." :rolleyes:

No, sis, I'll see you a week later on Christmas.

[Jragon]

Do we have to have 3 years of this?
Three years? You've been out of the loop haven't you? They've been obsessed with this since at least '06 (I remember the same special block playing around the time the Omen remake came out, along with the usual Antichrist stuff).

At this rate it's going to happen, we're going to get so overflooded either:
1. People will got mad from it
2. The internet will overload and cease to exist, causing mass chaos
3. The History channel will finally get bored of reruns and hire shadow agents to cause the apocalypse so they have something to cover.

Edit: After 2012 do we have until 2038 until people freak out again or is there another date that's getting traction yet?

[Kobal2]

I hope something really freaky and/or cataclysmic does happen. The end of the world has to be pretty frakkin cool....:D

Actually, no. There'll just be shooting stars spelling "THE END" in the night sky. Then the credits will roll by order of appearance, in a very, very long series of "X as Him/Herself". After which, Quetzalcoatl will leave the Universe dejectedly, muttering something about there not being a bloopers reel or even the sequel's trailer, and arguing with Tezcatlipoca over all the plot holes.

[The Tooth]

I hope something really freaky and/or cataclysmic does happen.

I turn 40.

[Marlitharn]

Edit: After 2012 do we have until 2038 until people freak out again or is there another date that's getting traction yet?

I haven't been keeping up with the woowoo, what's supposed to happen in 2038?

[leander]

I turn 40.

Me too! :)

[StaudtCJ]

I think 2038 is the Unix Millennium Bug, or some such.

[Mogle]

I haven't been keeping up with the woowoo, what's supposed to happen in 2038?
The Unix Millennium bug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem), the Unix version of the Y2k bug.

On preview: Bah, StaudtCJ beat me to it. But I included a link! :p

[Ludovic]

Ironically, between the two crises, it's the 2012 apocalypse that's Epoch Fail.

[ivan astikov]

I hope something really freaky and/or cataclysmic does happen. The end of the world has to be pretty frakkin cool....:D

And to be able to say, "I was there!".... ohhh, hang on...

[yojimbo]

Just wait till the movie hits in Nov. That will kick off tonnes more shite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz86TsGx3fc

The effects look fucking brilliant though. I'll be going to see this on the biggest screen I can find.

[The Tao's Revenge]

The UHC getting any upgrades in 2012? How long will the 7TeV upgrade at the end of 2010 take?

If so it could be a golden age of crazy.

[BlinkingDuck]

Edit: After 2012 do we have until 2038 until people freak out again or is there another date that's getting traction yet?

2038 is way too long away. All my life, the end of the world has been 8-12 years away. So , after 2012 there will need to be another end of the world around 2020-2024.

[Trepa Mayfield]

Actually, no. There'll just be shooting stars spelling "THE END" in the night sky. Then the credits will roll by order of appearance, in a very, very long series of "X as Him/Herself". After which, Quetzalcoatl will leave the Universe dejectedly, muttering something about there not being a bloopers reel or even the sequel's trailer, and arguing with Tezcatlipoca over all the plot holes.

You forgot the part where we all sing a slow, deeply moving song now that people are paying enough attention to actually hear us, and hopefully Quetzalcoatl will judge it the best song appearing on civilized planets this year.

[Ravenman]

Pfew. I thought this was another Sarah Palin thread.

I hear she can see the end of the world from her house.

[Bruce Wayne]

I'm sick of it too, I generally like the History Channel, but this is outrageous.

[gonzomax]

As nutty as it is, I think it will be much, much worse in the future, as short as that may be. Comet Kohoutek created cults and this is a lot more tantalizing to the crazies. than that was.

[Oy!]

Why 2012? I mean, we've had 9/9/09, and we'll have 10/10/10 and 11/11/11 before, so what's so special about 2012, other than that it's an election year in the US?

[yojimbo]

The Mayan calendar comes to an end on December 21, 2012. They knew the world was goning to end then. Or so the nutbags think.

There's also some bollocks about Planet X hitting is.

http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/2012-no-planet-x/

[Marlitharn]

See, I always figured the Mayan priests ended their calendar on that date because they were tired of carving on that damn rock. They probably figured they had enough to be going on with and they'd pick it up again later, after they'd invented pencils.

[drachillix]

History channel is running a series, " the Nostradamus Effect", which somehow ties him into 2012, the end of the world. There have been several specials of Myan Prophesy and 2012.
Do we have to have 3 years of this? How goofy is it going to get in Nov. /Dec. 2012 ?. I am tired of it already. But the nuts are going to fired up like never before. If it builds up, we are going to see nothing but end of the world crap in 2010 thru 2012.
Give me a break .

Start selling survival gear now while the gettin is good.

[gonzomax]

Start selling survival gear now while the gettin is good.

Special crosses that will make you amongst the chosen ones can be ordered. i will set up a Ebay account and notify you.
I saw a Sunday preacher on Tv a couple years ago, selling blessed rubber bands. The prick wouldn't even spring for a decent trinket. With that as a bottom line, i can peddle an ID card i will guarantee are issued by god him/herself. Forget the crosses. Just send me money and I will guarantee that you will not be harmed Dec. 2012. If I am right you will be eternally beholden to my powers. if I am wrong, it won't matter.

[Sage Rat]

Just wait till the movie hits in Nov. That will kick off tonnes more shite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz86TsGx3fc

The effects look fucking brilliant though. I'll be going to see this on the biggest screen I can find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0

[Really Not All That Bright]

You know, if the world ends, you'll be awfully glad they told you what to expect.

In Hell.

[Kolga]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz86TsGx3fc

The effects look fucking brilliant though. I'll be going to see this on the biggest screen I can find.

I can't wait. I saw the "monk running up the himalayan monastery steps while the tsunami crests Mt. Everest" footage months ago and had two responses. First, "oh, they really did NOT make a stupid movie about that ridiculous prophecy," and second, "that is the coolest special effect I've seen in a while."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0

That made my night, my friend. Disaster porn...I love it.

[koufax]

I too thought that this 2012 stuff was all bullshit until I read this guy's book.

http://www.apocalypse2012.com/us/

[yojimbo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0
Superb.

[Polycarp]

Actually, no. There'll just be shooting stars spelling "THE END" in the night sky. Then the credits will roll by order of appearance, in a very, very long series of "X as Him/Herself". After which, Quetzalcoatl will leave the Universe dejectedly, muttering something about there not being a bloopers reel or even the sequel's trailer, and arguing with Tezcatlipoca over all the plot holes.

No, no, no! A giant brobdingnagian Porky Pig of galactic size will poke its head through a suddenly-open wormhole of similar size, and announce "Th...th...th...that's all, folks!"

[BobLibDem]

I hope something really freaky and/or cataclysmic does happen. The end of the world has to be pretty frakkin cool....:D

President-Elect Palin. Freaky and/or cataclysmic enough?

[Fear Itself]

My question is, how can I get rich off of this latest stupidity?

[The Tao's Revenge]

My question is, how can I get rich off of this latest stupidity?

Glucose has shown to lead to dramatic increases energy levels, if temporary, perhaps if you could isolate this vitality increasing compound in pill form it might give folks the fortitude to survive the perils of that day in 2012 and make it to 2013.

[Scuba_Ben]

The Mayan calendar comes to an end on December 21, 2012. They knew the world was goning to end then. Or so the nutbags think.
My understanding is that there's disagreement when the Long Count rolls over -- it could be 21 Dec, 23 Dec, or 24 Dec.

As it happens, 23 Dec 2012 is also 10 Tevet 5773 (iirc) -- a public fast day. I plan to spend part of the day in prayer.

[Really Not All That Bright]

President-Elect Palin. Freaky and/or cataclysmic enough?
You know, when you put it that way, the end of the world doesn't sound so bad.

[Oakminster]

President-Elect Palin. Freaky and/or cataclysmic enough?

If that's the only alternative, then sign me up for Cosmic Doom, please. Smoking section, and hopefully a window seat.

[HPL]

I hope something really freaky and/or cataclysmic does happen. The end of the world has to be pretty frakkin cool....:D

I'm sure there will be some meaningful Astral Conjunction in 2012. And then Cthulhu will no longer dream.....

[HPL]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0

Now I can't wait till 2012. It's gonna be awesome!

[MovieMogul]

Superb.Agreed. That movie, I'd pay to see! :cool:

[mecaenas]

Geez what is it with you Americans and your obsession with fear and the end of the world? With all the hype that rolls out, it makes me wonder if collectively you guys want the world to end.

/The 2012 flick looks like a good disaster-porn film.

[Fear Itself]

Geez what is it with you Americans and your obsession with fear and the end of the world? With all the hype that rolls out, it makes me wonder if collectively you guys want the world to end.A significant percentage of American fundamentalist christians want exactly that. The sooner the world ends, the sooner Judgement Day comes, and they can join their loved ones with Jay-sus in Eternal Peace.

[silenus]

A significant percentage of American fundamentalist christians want exactly that. The sooner the world ends, the sooner Judgement Day comes, and they can join their loved ones with Jay-sus in Eternal Peace.

Or so they think, none of them having ever heard of the sin of Pride. Methinks they are in for a bit of a shock.

[runner pat]

If that's the only alternative, then sign me up for Cosmic Doom, please. Smoking section, and hopefully a window seat.

It'll all be smoking.

[XT]

I agree with an earlier poster...step away from the TV.

I am tired of it already. But the nuts are going to fired up like never before.

Naw. The nuts are ALWAYS fired up about something. I don't think that this 2012 thingy is getting nearly as much traction as the hysteria over the Y2K bug and associated end of the world.

To paraphrase the MIB, there is always a Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet...just go with the flow...

-XT

[gonzomax]

Hell no. This is going to be big. The nuts have what serves as proof to them, Ancient prophesies and I Ching, and Nostradamus. This could be all the nuts going weird at the same time. How much more fun can you have?

[Kobal2]

Hell no. This is going to be big. The nuts have what serves as proof to them, Ancient prophesies and I Ching, and Nostradamus. This could be all the nuts going weird at the same time. How much more fun can you have?

So you're saying it's a grand conjunction of nuts ?

[blondebear]

I blame it all on Art Bell.

[gonzomax]

I blame it all on Art Bell.

He is not on any more is he?

[blondebear]

No, but I seem to remember hearing about 2012 years ago before George took over.

eta: Here's a quote from a 1997 interview w/Terrence McKenna:

The event we are approaching will probably be something tantamount to a white hole or a mini-big bang. It will, for all intents and purposes, be the end of time for us. Terence believes it will occur consistent with the Mayan calendar in the year 2012. By the way, he has derived this, uh, independently from the Mayan calendar ... he simply has discovered that it coincides with it.

[Trick Rider]

Just be glad you're not related to one of these whack jobs.

My sister wants the whole family to get together on this day "just in case." :rolleyes:

No, sis, I'll see you a week later on Christmas.

Oh, I'm going to have a get-together on the 21st. But it's going to be a We Didn't Die party. And it's going to be awesome.

[Bridget Burke]

Hell no. This is going to be big. The nuts have what serves as proof to them, Ancient prophesies and I Ching, and Nostradamus. This could be all the nuts going weird at the same time. How much more fun can you have?

You could leave the I Ching out of that list. I consulted it for some time back in the day--until I realized it was usually telling me not to do stupid stuff.

[EvilTOJ]

Edit: After 2012 do we have until 2038 until people freak out again or is there another date that's getting traction yet?

There's always 2029 when Apophis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis) smashes into the earth. Or if it misses us then, there's 2036. Oh sure, they say it's going to miss us, but that's just what they want you to think! :rolleyes:

[gonzomax]

You could leave the I Ching out of that list. I consulted it for some time back in the day--until I realized it was usually telling me not to do stupid stuff.

Wasn't me. It was mentioned on the last Nostradamus show.

[Bridget Burke]

Wasn't me. It was mentioned on the last Nostradamus show.

Well, trying to tie the I Ching in with the end of the Mayan Long Count makes even less sense than tying in Nostradamus. I don't mind shows about the occult if they're well done. (That one obviously wasn't.) And if they don't put them on the History Channel!

[Dallas Jones]

Will there be Zombies? Gosh, I hope there will be. A good, old-fashion Zombie end of the world.

What? No Zombies! Well forget it. Boring!

[gonzomax]

I saw an ad for the Nostradamus program on History. It has new episodes every week. How? What can they come up with that is new and exciting on a weekly basis? I can not wait. I have to learn to speak in quatrains.

[Chimera]

I like the code ones, because with enough text, any "prediction" can be retroactively found to be on the pages. Alice in Wonderland, The Dungeons and Dragons Player's Handbook, Harry Potter, Ayn Rand. Arrange them right and crunch it with a supercomputer and you'll find what you want to see.

[XT]

Especially if you read it backwards, forward, skipping letters and diagonally. I have to say that, outside of homeopathy, I find the whole code thingy one of the goofier bits of psudo-scientific clap trap out there. Of course with dowsing and the Holy Grail being in the US, that isn't saying much for the rest of these kinds of things.

The 2012 thing almost seems sane compared to some of this other stuff.

-XT

[gonzomax]

That is because it is only 2009. Wait patiently, it will get much worse.
My grandmother died at the age of 96. She told me there were end of the world nuts making noise in 1900 too. Then 2000 was noisy. this will be much bigger.

[Roadfood]

The Mayan calendar comes to an end on December 21, 2012. They knew the world was goning to end then. Or so the nutbags think.Actually, it's a complete misinterpretation to say that the Mayan calendar "ends" on any date. On Dec. 21 (or so), 2012, the long count will hit 13.0.0.0.0. The day after that, it will read 13.0.0.0.1, etc. Some people speculate that the Mayans intended the fifth order to only go up to 13, but there's really not a lot of evidence that it shouldn't happily go on up to 19, like all (save the second order, which rolls over at 17) of the others. And then after 19.19.19.17.19 the count will just add another order and roll to 1.0.0.0.0.0. Really, it never ends at all.

[gonzomax]

Actually, it's a complete misinterpretation to say that the Mayan calendar "ends" on any date. On Dec. 21 (or so), 2012, the long count will hit 13.0.0.0.0. The day after that, it will read 13.0.0.0.1, etc. Some people speculate that the Mayans intended the fifth order to only go up to 13, but there's really not a lot of evidence that it shouldn't happily go on up to 19, like all (save the second order, which rolls over at 17) of the others. And then after 19.19.19.17.19 the count will just add another order and roll to 1.0.0.0.0.0. Really, it never ends at all.

What does that have to do with anything.? This is just an excuse for the nuts to go wild. If they are able to convince themselves the world will end DEC. 2012, do you think you can educate them out of it. This is religious fervor. You won't need a TV. Entertainment will be everywhere.

[PlainJain]

A significant percentage of American fundamentalist christians want exactly that. The sooner the world ends, the sooner Judgement Day comes, and they can join their loved ones with Jay-sus in Eternal Peace.
For some reason I read that as Va JayJay-sus.

[gonzomax]

The Nostradamus Effect is doing a story on Hitler and the occult. How it ties into Nostradamus i do not know.

[XT]

Supposedly some of the quatrains dealing with 'Hister' were about Hitler...so, maybe it's that? Most of Mike's predictions were so obscure and convoluted that you can make them say whatever it is you want them to say. And they were, IIRC, written in old French too boot, so there is always translation errors too.

As far as I know, Mikey didn't make any specific predictions about 2012, though I was watching something about a lost book (supposedly hand drawn by his son) that had some obscure drawings in it that supposedly tied it into the supposed end of the world in 2012. To me they looked like stuff I used to doodle on my notebook when I was trying not to hear the teacher droning on in English class...

-XT

[Roadfood]

What does that have to do with anything.? This is just an excuse for the nuts to go wild. If they are able to convince themselves the world will end DEC. 2012, do you think you can educate them out of it. This is religious fervor. You won't need a TV. Entertainment will be everywhere.I know this is the pit, but a little reality doesn't hurt, does it? I think there's a big difference between 1) "The Mayan calendar ends in 2012, the Mayans predicted the end of the world, and the nutcases believe that", and 2) "The Mayan calendar just rolls over to a new fifth order in 2012, the Mayans never said anything about the end of the world, and the nutcases are basing their end of the world belief on a complete misinterpretation."

But maybe that's just me.

[XT]

I think the number and density of the nutcases is being vastly exaggerated as well. Most people don't take this stuff all that seriously...it's just entertainment on History Channel. Heck, I love these kinds of shows...some of them are more funny than some of the comedies that are out! :p

-XT

[gonzomax]

You guys better be careful. You might piss off bigfoot.
The point about the Incan calendar is that nothing will stop them. They have got it meaning what they want to now. They are not going to allow some other data get in the way. They have fine tuned Nostradamus's stuff to prove the world will end in 2012. How can you argue with that? It must be right.

[Dallas Jones]

I've got a Non Sequitur page-a-day desk calendar sitting right here on my desk. Guess when it runs out? December 31st of THIS year!

Are you scared now? You should be.

[Morgyn]

Personally, I find myself highly amused that there are not one, but two movies titled 2012 coming out this year, and a third "in development" for 2011.

The first (American) one says it's about the end of the world and the struggle of the survivors.*

How does the end of the world even HAVE survivors?



*No info on the plot of the other two.

[Miss Woodhouse]

How does the end of the world even HAVE survivors?

Do you not read enough science fiction? There are always survivors. Sometimes they look for food and try not to die. Sometimes they look for people to have sex with. Just depends on the book.

[Kamino Neko]

I like the code ones, because with enough text, any "prediction" can be retroactively found to be on the pages. Alice in Wonderland, The Dungeons and Dragons Player's Handbook, Harry Potter, Ayn Rand. Arrange them right and crunch it with a supercomputer and you'll find what you want to see.

He wrote almost 1000 quatrains, which can be interpreted as anything from 10 to 1000 separate prophecies.

And there are multiple interpretations of each possible division.

There are DECADES of possible weekly episodes, even without getting into the context in which he was writing these, or any biographical information about the man himself or his patrons, or critiquing his writing itself...

[Kamino Neko]

Stuff completely unrelated to what I quoted...

Weird...that's not the post I meant to quote...

[gonzomax]

There was an ad for a new movie on TV. The name ......2012. It will show the world being destroyed and people running. Where are they going to go?

[Kamino Neko]

Space. (http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org/)

[gonzomax]

Space. (http://www.instituteforhumancontinuity.org/)

What head toward the moon and turn left. There has to be a destination, like the old movie "When Worlds Collide".

[Bruce Wayne]

None of those dudes on that site look remotely capable of ruling the post 2012 world.

[cerberus]

The movie appears to be a CGI test bed.