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handsomeharry
10-15-2009, 10:15 AM
I was reading some stupid online news article, and it made me think of who owned all of those Renaissance pieces of art.
Are the Medicis even still around?
At any rate, when I collect my big bucks from my memoirs, who do I contact to buy the statue of David?

Thanks,
hh

Bijou Drains
10-15-2009, 10:20 AM
These guys have it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accademia_di_Belle_Arti_Firenze

But I doubt they will sell it for any price

handsomeharry
10-15-2009, 10:22 AM
These guys have it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accademia_di_Belle_Arti_Firenze

But I doubt they will sell it for any price

Mm, hmm. What if I wave a crisp $100 dollar bill under their noses? I bet they'd be singing a different song, then!
hh

gazpacho
10-15-2009, 10:49 AM
You probably will need to get a new house. It is a big statue. So factor that expense in.

Giles
10-15-2009, 11:03 AM
Mm, hmm. What if I wave a crisp $100 dollar bill under their noses? I bet they'd be singing a different song, then!
hh
No -- it's in the Euro zone, so you need to wave a crisp 100 Euro bill under their noses. Better still, if you want to really impress them, wave a 500,000₤ bill (worth about 250 Euro) at them.

CaveMike
10-15-2009, 11:06 AM
I can't help you out. How many do you want?

Dewey Finn
10-15-2009, 11:06 AM
These guys have it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accademia_di_Belle_Arti_Firenze

But I doubt they will sell it for any price
It's housed there, but I'll bet that the academy doesn't own the piece. In any case, most countries recognize the idea of "national patrimony"; that there are certain things that belong to the country as a whole and should not leave it. So even if such a piece were in private hands, the government would stop you from exporting it. (I think in a couple of cases where something of importance in private hands was being sold to a foreigner, the government has stepped in and found a domestic buyer.)

Dr. Drake
10-15-2009, 12:02 PM
Are your funds unlimited? You might want to set up a new, state-of-the-art tourist-friendly climate-controlled museum for Florentine sculpture in your home territory. Bide your time, establishing your credentials and acquiring quality pieces. Eventually, you'll get David on loan. Then, pounce: you can vanish into the mists while your hired thugs remove it in the middle of the night and ship it to your tropical island. Morning comes with the ensuing scandal, but the figurehead you've set up as head of the foundation knows nothing about it and you can't be traced. Insurance covers the cost to the Academy / Italy, and you have what you want.

But a straightforward cash transaction is simply not possible.

CaveMike
10-15-2009, 12:05 PM
Then, pounce: you can vanish into the mists while your hired thugs remove it in the middle of the night and ship it to your tropical island.Sure, but be careful who you invite to the grand opening. If a bunch of hippie kids and a semi-talking dog show up, you might want to delay the swipe another day or two.

Bryan Ekers
10-15-2009, 12:12 PM
Well, if the historical example of the Mona Lisa is any guide, you can just tuck the statue under your coat and walk out with it.

Icarus
10-15-2009, 12:58 PM
They have 3 of them in Florence, they might part with one of them for the right price.

psychonaut
10-15-2009, 01:06 PM
At any rate, when I collect my big bucks from my memoirs, who do I contact to buy the statue of David?Which statue of David? There are three of them.

Chez Guevara
10-15-2009, 01:08 PM
It's housed there, but I'll bet that the academy doesn't own the piece.This 2003 article (http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110003879) from the Wall Street Journal discusses the ownership of the statue.

At that time, it appears that Italy's central government owned David. It probably still does, unless control of fine arts has since devolved to regional or city level as mentioned in the linked piece.

In order to avoid the inevitable disappointment that will follow an unsuccessful offer for the statue, I suggest the OP considers buying a David fridge magnet instead. A 7.6cm magnet can be acquired for a mere £2.95 ($4.79), thus removing the requirement for a best-selling memoir to fund the purchase.

janeslogin
10-15-2009, 01:16 PM
I somehow came by this notion that some antiquities could not be purchased under international treaties or laws. Did I dream this up?

Dewey Finn
10-15-2009, 01:19 PM
Which statue of David? There are three of them.
He said "Michaelangelo's David", so how is that ambiguous?

Bryan Ekers
10-15-2009, 01:33 PM
Ah, but which Michaelangelo?




Just kidding.

iamthewalrus(:3=
10-15-2009, 01:44 PM
Are your funds unlimited? You might want to set up a new, state-of-the-art tourist-friendly climate-controlled museum for Florentine sculpture in your home territory. Bide your time, establishing your credentials and acquiring quality pieces. Eventually, you'll get David on loan. Then, pounce: you can vanish into the mists while your hired thugs remove it in the middle of the night and ship it to your tropical island. Morning comes with the ensuing scandal, but the figurehead you've set up as head of the foundation knows nothing about it and you can't be traced. Insurance covers the cost to the Academy / Italy, and you have what you want.

But a straightforward cash transaction is simply not possible.You're probably better off figuring out how to make a fake, and somehow switch the fake for the real one. Other than that, the plan is totally sound.

pan1
10-15-2009, 03:04 PM
I somehow came by this notion that some antiquities could not be purchased under international treaties or laws. Did I dream this up?

International Law is redundant with the word Treaties. The slight difference is that the bully nations of the world can [try to] enforce Treaties upon nations who didn't sign them.

Antiquities require gov't dispensation to go to a private owner. Treaties usually say you have to sell it to a museum. This usally pertains to objects that have no living owner, like King Tut's loot or that Saxon Hoarde they just dug up.

Unfortunately Michelangelo's works are not yet considered "Antiquities" under these laws.

pan1
10-15-2009, 03:08 PM
You're probably better off figuring out how to make a fake, and somehow switch the fake for the real one. Other than that, the plan is totally sound.

I get the mental image of a guy in a fedora trying to "hot swap" two 17' tall statues.

I've only seen the statue once close up, but I seem to remember it looked pretty heavy.

Improvisor
10-15-2009, 05:15 PM
Luckily you can come to Seattle and steal one of eight mini-replicas they have placed around the city as PR for a Michaelangelo exhibit at the Seattle Art Museum.

http://seattleartmuseum.org/david/

Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor
10-15-2009, 05:19 PM
Are your funds unlimited? You might want to set up a new, state-of-the-art tourist-friendly climate-controlled museum for Florentine sculpture in your home territory. Bide your time, establishing your credentials and acquiring quality pieces. Eventually, you'll get David on loan. Then, pounce: you can vanish into the mists while your hired thugs remove it in the middle of the night and ship it to your tropical island. Morning comes with the ensuing scandal, but the figurehead you've set up as head of the foundation knows nothing about it and you can't be traced. Insurance covers the cost to the Academy / Italy, and you have what you want.

But a straightforward cash transaction is simply not possible.

Nah.

For this, you need Ninjas.

And have you priced Ninjas lately?

Cheaper to hire Michaelangelo to make another.

Chimera
10-15-2009, 05:20 PM
But could I purchase it and grind it up as an aphrodesiac?

Mangetout
10-15-2009, 07:54 PM
Sure, but be careful who you invite to the grand opening. If a bunch of hippie kids and a semi-talking dog show up, you might want to delay the swipe another day or two.

Just lay on a buffet and make your getaway as they assemble improbably tall sandwiches.

Tim R. Mortiss
10-15-2009, 09:02 PM
He said "Michaelangelo's David", so how is that ambiguous?

Michelangelo was not above duplicating his own work. He has at least two pieces knows as "The Pieta." And don't get me started on how many "Thinkers" Rodin cranked out!

R. P. McMurphy
10-15-2009, 10:55 PM
You probably will need to get a new house. It is a big statue. So factor that expense in.

Low interest 30 year morgage. Just buy the White House first. If that's not available buy Buckingham Palace. Should be no problem.

So, what was the question?

Götterfunken
10-16-2009, 12:34 AM
Michelangelo was not above duplicating his own work. He has at least two pieces knows as "The Pieta." And don't get me started on how many "Thinkers" Rodin cranked out!But those Pietas are quite distinct sculptures despite their shared subject matter, with the figures in different poses and compositions. No one would confuse the St. Peter's Pieta with the Rondanini Pieta. Likewise, I'm not aware of any replicas of the St. Peter's Pieta or any of the other Pietas authorized by Michelangelo.

Similarly, I'm not aware of any duplicate versions of the David by Michelangelo himself.

You're right about Rodin, though--he produced numerous versions of the Thinker (in addition to its original conception as a figure in the Gates of Hell).

ChrisBooth12
10-16-2009, 01:11 AM
No The only way you could probably get it is if you make your own art mesueme and slowly build up very very fine pieces and ask them to trade outright everything you have for it. they still may not go to it.

Boyo Jim
10-16-2009, 01:38 AM
You are probably going to need a rare trillion dollar bill, the one with Harry Truman's face (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trouble_with_Trillions) on it.

handsomeharry
10-16-2009, 06:28 PM
In order to avoid the inevitable disappointment that will follow an unsuccessful offer for the statue, I suggest the OP considers buying a David fridge magnet instead. A 7.6cm magnet can be acquired for a mere £2.95 ($4.79), thus removing the requirement for a best-selling memoir to fund the purchase.

1. Apparently, you haven't seen what $100, American, can do!:dubious:

2. More importantly, it isn't a requirement to write the best-selling memoir-writing the memoir is an obligation that I have to myself, my nation, and the world.

humbly,
hh

Alessan
10-16-2009, 07:32 PM
It's owned by the government of Italy. Just offer to trade it for a couple of hookers.

Hung Mung
10-16-2009, 09:38 PM
It's owned by the government of Italy. Just overthrow it and start your own.

Boyo Jim
10-16-2009, 09:46 PM
It's owned by the government of Italy. Just offer to trade it for a couple of hookers.


It's owned by the government of Italy. Just overthrow it and start your own.


There's no reason not to combine these two ideas and install a new government of hookers. I'm not sure what kind of deal you can make for David, but I do know that they see plenty of dicks every day so they won't be too attached to a naked guy statue.

Dewey Finn
10-16-2009, 10:21 PM
Ever heard of la Cicciolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilona_Staller)? That's the stage name of a Hungarian-born Italian woman named Ilona Staller who was a porn star and a member of parliament. She was also a leader of the "Love Party."

Alex_Dubinsky
10-16-2009, 10:21 PM
There's no reason not to combine these two ideas and install a new government of hookers. I'm not sure what kind of deal you can make for David, but I do know that they see plenty of dicks every day so they won't be too attached to a naked guy statue.
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