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AK84
10-18-2009, 02:52 PM
The US Army in WWII had something called "cavalry groups". What were they, were they like the seperate tank brigades of the British?
What was their usual order of battle?

And some seemed to bed called "armour groups", the same?

Captain Amazing
10-18-2009, 04:17 PM
Cavalry Groups were US mechanized cavalry regiments. Here's a list and description of each of the cavalry groups that were assigned to the European theater:

http://www.louisdimarco.com/cavalrygrps.htm

And his website here talks about mechanized cavalry doctrine:

http://www.louisdimarco.com/mecz_cavalry_doctrine.htm

Armor groups are different than Cavalry groups. Armor groups are made up of armor....tanks, and their primary goal is assault and breakthrough. Cavalry groups are made up of mechanized cavalry...armored cars and antitank guns, and their primary goal is recon and infantry support.

Alessan
10-18-2009, 04:46 PM
We have a Doper, ExTank, who's a former Armored Cavalryman. I'm sure he'd be happy to explain.

Tom Tildrum
10-18-2009, 10:49 PM
So would an Imperial Walker (http://media.photobucket.com/image/imperial%20walker/rmolyneu/imperial-walker-comedy-Empire-Strik.jpg?t=1193807353) be armor or cavalry?

AK84
10-19-2009, 06:00 AM
I think today the distinction in the US army is largely historical, the 1st Cavalry Division is heavy armour TOE IIRC. In WWII, I think there was a difference. The British did not have a difference, all British and Empire cavalry units converted to tanks before the war

mlees
10-19-2009, 09:32 AM
So would an Imperial Walker (http://media.photobucket.com/image/imperial%20walker/rmolyneu/imperial-walker-comedy-Empire-Strik.jpg?t=1193807353) be armor or cavalry?

I'm guessing that if it designed and used specifically to attack fortified and dug in enemy positions, it's armor.

Sailboat
10-19-2009, 01:14 PM
So would an Imperial Walker (http://media.photobucket.com/image/imperial%20walker/rmolyneu/imperial-walker-comedy-Empire-Strik.jpg?t=1193807353) be armor or cavalry?

Neither. A third designation is necessary: Stomping. It's a Stomping unit.

UncleRojelio
10-19-2009, 01:17 PM
Neither. A third designation is necessary: Stomping. It's a Stomping unit.

So it's a Stomptrooper?

Captain Amazing
10-19-2009, 05:25 PM
I'm guessing that if it designed and used specifically to attack fortified and dug in enemy positions, it's armor.

It's not. It's an armored transport vehicle. It's designed to get troops to the battlefield.

mlees
10-20-2009, 09:29 AM
It's not. It's an armored transport vehicle. It's designed to get troops to the battlefield.

I don't recall seeing anyone jump out of those.

Captain Amazing
10-20-2009, 11:23 AM
I don't recall seeing anyone jump out of those.

Because they all got blown up before they got to the Rebel base. But the canonical name for the walkers are AT-AT, all terrain armored transports.

davekhps
10-20-2009, 11:44 AM
Not sure about the AT-ATs, but the AT-STs (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/All_Terrain_Scout_Transport) are definitely cavalry :-).

Miller
10-20-2009, 11:55 AM
It's not. It's an armored transport vehicle. It's designed to get troops to the battlefield.

But in the film, it's specific task in the assault on Hoth is to break through the enemy fortifications and destroy the shield generator. At the very least, it's a dual-purpose vehicle.