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Darwinself
09-01-1999, 03:23 PM
Was the Ludovico Treatment (Clockwork Orange) based even slightly on anything? Was it based in a major way on something?


Darwinsboredelf

According to Pliny
09-01-1999, 03:30 PM
In general:
Yes. Pavlov and his dogs. Classic condition/response stimulus research.

Specifically:
I'll bet the Nazis, Soviets, perhaps even the CIA looked into it and even used human test subjects. The intent, though, probably wasn't to cure homocidal perverts, but to create un-questioning conformists. It's much easier to just execute homocidal perverts.

Darwinself
09-01-1999, 03:33 PM
anymore details? hints? Rumours? Can I get a teenager to pick up his clothes with the right amount of treatment?


Darwins elf

Babar714
09-01-1999, 05:24 PM
If me mum played Ludwig Van to make me clean my room, me and my droogs would begin the ultra-violence.

09-01-1999, 05:28 PM
Check out B.F. Skinner and his operant conditioning studies.

Big Iron
09-04-1999, 11:54 PM
Whoo hoo! Judy!!!


I dunno about the Ludivico Treatment, per se, but I think the name is interesting in light of Alex's love for lovely, lovely Ludwig Von and Beethoven's constant presence through the film -- isn't "Ludivico" Italian for "Ludwig"?

Jorge
09-05-1999, 12:22 AM
Ludovico ? It's a sly reference to "Orlando Furioso". Read both books, then ponder.

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"Proverbs for Paranoids, 1: You may never get to touch the Master, but you can tickle his creatures."
- T.Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow.

Darwinself
09-06-1999, 07:53 PM
And just think how tickled his creatures are when you do touch the master?!?!?!?

Dread Pirate Judy