View Full Version : Did Hitler ever kill anyone?
homegrowncone
01-14-2010, 04:58 AM
I know it sounds like a silly question but is there any evidence he ever personally killed another man. I know he participated in WW1 but I'm not sure how much direct contact with the enemy he had other than dodging shells and running between trenches.
Is there any evidence he murdered once he became Chancellor?
Jormungandr
01-14-2010, 05:59 AM
There were rumors that he killed his niece, Gail Raubal, who he was supposedly in love with. Her death is official a suicide by a gunshot to the chest using Hitler's gun.
Laudenum
01-14-2010, 06:40 AM
I think he won a medal or two in WWI, so he probably killed someone.
Marley23
01-14-2010, 07:46 AM
I think he won a medal or two in WWI, so he probably killed someone.
Most people wouldn't consider that murder, though - at least not if it was in combat. And it's true that he was decorated. He was given the Iron Cross twice.
But killing people once he became chancellor? Why would he bother? He had people to do that kind of thing for him. That's why you get yourself into a position of power like that in the first place, assuming you are so inclined.
anson2995
01-14-2010, 07:47 AM
I think he won a medal or two in WWI, so he probably killed someone.
Hitler was wounded twice during the first world war, once in the thigh/groin and another time he suffered temporary blindness following a mustard gas attack. He definitely saw combat, including some of the most gruesome battles of the war. I think he would be very unlikely that he did not engage and kill the enemy at some point.
handsomeharry
01-14-2010, 07:48 AM
There were rumors that he killed his niece, Gail Raubal, who he was supposedly in love with. Her death is official a suicide by a gunshot to the chest using Hitler's gun.
There were rumours, but, IIRC, the official consensus is that he wasn't there, so if he gave her the bump, it was via proxy.
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Sailboat
01-14-2010, 08:27 AM
There were rumors that he killed his niece, Gail Raubal, who he was supposedly in love with. Her death is official a suicide by a gunshot to the chest using Hitler's gun.
Geli Raubal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geli_Raubal) -- the Geli is short for "Angelika."
He definitely saw combat, including some of the most gruesome battles of the war. I think he would be very unlikely that he did not engage and kill the enemy at some point.
Well, he was a runner -- he carried messages forward and backward. While this often exposed the runners to enemy fire (including having to occasionally traverse no-man's-land above ground during artillery barrages!) it does not necessarily imply the runners were shooting back at anyone. I don't know if he killed anyone in the war or not, or even if he served in other capacities than as a runner, but he wasn't being used for his marksmanship while he was a runner, and certainly a runner could have gotten through the war without shooting at anyone and still received medals. The runners were often regarded as very brave.
HorseloverFat
01-14-2010, 08:34 AM
Ordering people killed is the same as "personally killing them." Are you asking if he's ever killed them with his own hands? Pretty sure he shot Eva Brown at the end.
Marley23
01-14-2010, 08:38 AM
Pretty sure he shot Eva Brown at the end.
She wasn't shot, she took a cyanide capsule. He took a cyanide capsule and shot himself at the same time.
ColonelDax
01-14-2010, 08:38 AM
Pretty sure he shot Eva Brown at the end.
Eva Braun took poison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Braun#Marriage_and_suicide).
Captain Amazing
01-14-2010, 09:55 AM
She wasn't shot, she took a cyanide capsule. He took a cyanide capsule and shot himself at the same time.
So, see, he killed himself, and he was a person. Therefore....
Kizarvexius
01-14-2010, 09:59 AM
I have a fuzzy memory of hearing that Hitler once killed someone during his power struggle with the SA. I think it was during the arrest of Ernst Röhm on the Night of the Long Knives, but the Wiki entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives) says nothing that would back me up on this. Chalk it up to one too many late night marathons on the Hitler Channel.
villa
01-14-2010, 10:05 AM
Hitler was wounded twice during the first world war, once in the thigh/groin and another time he suffered temporary blindness following a mustard gas attack. He definitely saw combat, including some of the most gruesome battles of the war. I think he would be very unlikely that he did not engage and kill the enemy at some point.
I'd would bet a significant majority of soldiers who saw combat in World War One did not kill anybody. If you take out the artillerymen and (to a significantly lesser extent) the machinegunners, then you have taken out a significant majority of non-disease caused fatalities in the war.
aldiboronti
01-14-2010, 10:37 AM
I have a fuzzy memory of hearing that Hitler once killed someone during his power struggle with the SA. I think it was during the arrest of Ernst Röhm on the Night of the Long Knives, but the Wiki entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives) says nothing that would back me up on this. Chalk it up to one too many late night marathons on the Hitler Channel.
That jibes with something I read in one of the many Hitler biographies I've consumed over the years, that Hitler himself shot Ernst Röhm after his arrest. (It may have been in John Toland's biography of Hitler.)
Captain Amazing
01-14-2010, 10:56 AM
Röhm was shot by Theodor Eicke and Michael Lippert, two SS men. What you might be thinking of, though, is that he was given an opportunity to commit suicide before they killed him, and he refused, saying, "If I'm going to be killed, let Adolf do it".
Kizarvexius
01-18-2010, 09:22 AM
Röhm was shot by Theodor Eicke and Michael Lippert, two SS men. What you might be thinking of, though, is that he was given an opportunity to commit suicide before they killed him, and he refused, saying, "If I'm going to be killed, let Adolf do it".
Again, I am straining to extract a questionable factoid from a permanently befuddled brain, but it occurs to me that Hitler, at some point claimed to have himself killed Röhm, even though the truth of the matter had already been pretty firmly established. Perhaps someone whose Google-fu is superior to mine will be able to confirm whether this was the case.
Tapioca Dextrin
01-18-2010, 10:01 AM
I think he won a medal or two in WWI, so he probably killed someone.
Two Iron Crosses (http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/aslowfuse.htm). The first one was for rescuing a wounded officer in 1914, the second was for capturing four French soldiers single handedly. No shooting involved in either incident.
Tapioca Dextrin
01-18-2010, 10:03 AM
Again, I am straining to extract a questionable factoid from a permanently befuddled brain, but it occurs to me that Hitler, at some point claimed to have himself killed Röhm, even though the truth of the matter had already been pretty firmly established.
He was present at Rohm's arrest.
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