View Full Version : Do Conservatives Have Morals?
01-31-2010, 11:25 AM
Looking at the current situation it seems as though conservatives have no morals, they just do what ever they think they need to do to advance their cause. Oppose UHC? Just make up a bunch of lies about death panels. Oppose Acorn? Shoot hundreds of hours of tape so that you can edit together the few minutes of questionable activity. Oppose Obama? Make up a story that he is not a native born American, or is a secret Muslim.
Conservatives often claim that all moral law comes from the Bible, and express concern that without the Judeau/Christian tradition we wouldn't know right from wrong. Does this mean that they don't have the inherent ability to know that murder, and theft, and cheating on your spouse are wrong? If the Bible were to change tomorrow and get rid of the sixth commandment would they just say murder is OK because the Bible doesn't prohibit it?
Torture is another issue in which conservatives have taken a questionable stance. If torture will produce results they support it. The ends justify the means.
Or how about prayer in school? Conservatives think it is OK to inflict their religion on students. No concern at all about the Jewish, or Muslim, or Buddhist, or atheist students, just do what ever it takes to advance their cause.
I'm really baffled. Sure there are lots of dumb people who will believe anything, but O'Reilly and Limbaugh and Steele are not stupid. They know what they say is bullshit and apparently feel no qualms at all about lying to the American public.
I just don't get it.
01-31-2010, 11:49 AM
You talk about 'conservatives' as if they are one clearly defined group. That isn't true in the least. There are religious conservatives, social conservatives, and fiscal conservatives. You can mix and match between those but that don't have to go hand in hand. It sounds like you are mainly referencing religious conservatives and not even all of those. There are plenty of religious conservatives that are Jewish, Muslim, Catholic and others so you are it seems like you are referring to a subset of those who are Protestant Christians. Many of those do have strong morals and do hands-on good works that many bleeding heart liberals would think is beneath them or should simply be legislated to get the problem out of sight altogether. There are religious conservatives that use their religion to mask their inner issues but you are breaking it down even further.
Like all things, you end with a small group that gives the good ones a bad name. The real question is why do liberals want to take all my money and indoctrinate my kids into their cult?
Tim R. Mortiss
01-31-2010, 11:52 AM
You paint with a mighty broad brush there, doncha?
01-31-2010, 11:52 AM
The real question is why do liberals want to take all my money and indoctrinate my kids into their cult?So you think it's OK to lie too?
01-31-2010, 11:57 AM
Do Conservatives Have Morals?
No, we don't. None.
So you think it's OK to lie too?
Immaterial. Since we would do it even if we didn't think it's okay.
01-31-2010, 11:58 AM
No. Clearly none of the 100,000,000 or so self proclaimed conservatives in country have any morals. With that answered, Mods, lets lock this thread up.
Perhaps we can put this right next to the thread where some argue that this site doesn't lean to the left.
01-31-2010, 11:59 AM
Many conservatives in Congress these days (to specify a group) are perfectly willing to railroad their own ethics in order to prevent Obama from enjoying any political success, regardless of outcome.
01-31-2010, 12:01 PM
Does this mean that they don't have the inherent ability to know that murder, and theft, and cheating on your spouse are wrong?
Nobody has the inherent ability to know that murder, theft, and cheating on your spouse is wrong. This is something that all people have to be taught or discover on their own.
01-31-2010, 12:02 PM
The "c street" repubs mentored by the Coe family do not have morals. They believe in power . If you have it God chose you to have it. Whatever they do, is OK. You have no right to criticize those that were picked by a higher (demented) power. That group includes many powerful repubs.
01-31-2010, 12:06 PM
Morals are an extremely fluid concept when it comes to getting your way.
There's no good revolution. Just power changing hands. There is no straight solution. Except to understand.
Successful conversations will take you very far.
01-31-2010, 12:13 PM
Do Liberals Have Morals?
This will not end well...
(and it should have been a Pit thread, not in GD)
01-31-2010, 12:16 PM
I just don't get it.I agree.
There may be a good point for discussion somewhere in your OP, but as presented it is nothing but an invitation to a brawl.
If you can think of a way to shape a genuine discussion on whatever topic you thought you were discussing, then you can give it another try, but this thread is closed.
[ /Moderating ]
01-31-2010, 12:16 PM
You paint with a mighty broad brush there, doncha?I wish I did. Beck, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly are the most popular commentators in the country. Fox News is the most popular news channel. The heads of the Republican party engage in blatant acts of misinformation. The VP candidate for the Republican party made is a lie out of whole cloth and still defends it even though it us clearly untrue. This is not some fringe group, this is the leadership of the conservative movements.
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