Glee 1:21 "Funk" (open spoilers)

[Annie]

Hey, did you all know the theme of tonight's episode was 'funk'? Pretty subtle with the allusions to it, writers!(mouseover)

























Anyhow, Quinn and the Fertile Rockettes were just fantastically, righteously wrong. :cool: Finn in those chains- just wrong.

[SaharaTea]

Great episode. I liked all the musical numbers, especially Quinn's. She's may not be strong vocally, but it was extremely...creative.

Nice to see Terri again. I missed her crazy ass.

ETA: Loved Sue's crack about Abraham Lincoln and Will's line about "Hump Day."

[pancakes3]

if there was any debate before as to if shuster was a slut, /discussion now. the man is a ho. quinn is smoking hot even if preggers. ditzy cheerleader whose name i just can't remember is a phenomenal dancer.

[jackdavinci]

I'm not sure I can handle mirror universe Shuester.

[tr0psn4j]

So why would they reveal their "secret weapon" before regionals?

[Cat Whisperer]

They were demoralizing their opponents like their opponents do each year before regionals.

I didn't think they could handle funk (funk doesn't take Broadwayification well), but they mostly pulled it off. I also didn't think "Give Up The Funk" needed to be double-timed, but that worked, too. I got a couple of songs to pull off Frostwire from tonight too, that I'm somehow missing from my funk collection (although as Shue said, Marky Mark isn't technically funk).

[Tangent]

Great episode! The musical numbers were fine, though I can't get too excited about funk done by a bunch of non-funky white people (like me). The last number was pretty good, though.


if there was any debate before as to if shuster was a slut, /discussion now. the man is a ho.

LOVED all the Shue/Sue interaction. Really funny stuff, especially when he was seducing her with the song and "accidentally" knocked those papers onto the floor. Also good to see Terri--looked like they might be setting up some kind of inappropriate relationship between her and Finn. Also good to see Sandy Ryerson again.


quinn is smoking hot even if preggers.
She really is amazingly beautiful--most of the people on this show are very attractive, but Dianna Agron stands out even among her castmates. Quinn and her backup singers/dancers were hilarious! They actually sang "Hee-Hee-Hee Hoo-Hoo-Hoo" as backing vocals at one point during the number (imitating birthing breathing techniques).

ditzy cheerleader whose name i just can't remember is a phenomenal dancer.

Heather Morris (Brittany) is a professional dancer--she was a contestant on So You Think You Can Dance and toured as a dancer with Beyonce. She was initially hired to teach dance routines to the Glee cast, and then they created the Brittany part for her. She looked really hot in that last number in this episode.

This show is so great when it isn't trying too hard to preach a message (the Kurt-Burt-Finn confrontation last week was too heavy-handed) and when they don't try to squeeze too many songs into the show with not enough plot to support them (the Madonna episode).

[Serenata67]

I liked the episode. It's nice to have a lighter episode after last week's heavy-handed morality play. I was wondering last episode where the hell Jesse went. If they broke up this episode, where was he last episode?

I also had a hard time believing that Kurt was singing at the beginning of the last song. He's got such a high voice... I thought someone like Artie or Puck would have been better suited for that low-and-funky part.

I loved the Loser dream sequence. It rocked. I love hearing Finn without a ton of auto tune and Puck's got such a great voice, too. Just bad-assing it through the store...

[ShibbOleth]

My favorite parts were:

1. Brittany wearing her clothes backwards when the Cheerios were all discombobulated.

2. Sort of odd looking guy at Teri's workplace coming in at one part during the Loser dream sequence.

3. All of the squeamishly uncomfortable Shue/Sue seduction stuff.

4. Brittany chasing the nerd-in-chief down the hallway - didn't quite catch what she was saying to him.

The Jessie story line continues to be poorly explained - he's there, he's not, they're together, then broken up.

Booster fund pays for Range Rover's for Vocal Adrenaline? More than a bit over the top, and wouldn't it also be illegal or at least some sort of violation?

It's a crime to slash tires but not to assault someone with eggs?

Still, it's a fun show and so you have to give them a LOT of latitude.

[Unauthorized Cinnamon]

Yeah, the Jesse thing was bungled. What is the timeline on this?
1.) assigned to get near Rachel and get her to search for her mother
2.) tries to get Rachel in bed
3.) gets pissed at being one of three boys in her video
4.) goes on vacation/disappears
5.) reappears, helps Rachel search for her mother
6.) tells Shelby he "really likes" Rachel
7.) disappears again
8.) reappears with VA, out for vengeance on Rachel who "broke his heart" and who he "loved."

Whuh?

Anyway, the rest was really good. I too loved the "Loser" fantasy at the store.

I want to see the outtakes for all the Morrison/Lynch scenes. How did they ever get through Tell Me Something Good without rolling on the floor laughing?

Also, am I the only one who wanted Will to grab Sue and kiss the everliving hell out of her in that scene at his apartment? Not romantically, but you know, competitively, like, "You want to go there? You don't know what you've started!"

Brittany in the backwards top was great - took me a few minutes to pick up on it.

[Annie]

Sue's date-wear:track suit with pearls

[gonzoron]

The timeline on the Shue/Sue thing was a bit weird, too. He stood her up on "hump day", nationals was on Saturday, but Kurt said she hadn't been out of bed in "days" before Shue went to apologize. At best that could've been friday. Is two mornings in bed really enough to say she hadn't been out of been in days?

but still a fun episode. Loser was probably the best song, but I'm not a funk fan, so my opinion is tainted.

Lots of subtle bits, some already mentioned: the pearls, the backwards outfit, and also Finn/Terri looking up Funk on itunes and finding the Funky bunch... nice.

[FriarTed]

My favorite parts were:

4. Brittany chasing the nerd-in-chief down the hallway - didn't quite catch what she was saying to him.


Something like "Love me, please love me."

[tr0psn4j]

Which episode did Rachel and Puck get involved in?

[Sampiro]

I was wondering last episode where the hell Jesse went. If they broke up this episode, where was he last episode?



According to wiki, this episode was supposed to air before last week's episode but they switched and then edited it a tad to make it fit.

[Sampiro]

I liked it but it's rare that there's not one song I wanted to play over again. It's not even that I don't like funk as I don't like those funk songs; my favorite by far was Quinn's It's a Man's/Man's/Man's World number.

"Even your breath stinks of mediocrity and it makes me sick...".

I've mentioned before that Matthew Morrison is an actor who I should find smoking hot- great voice, great body, etc., but just don't. I'm trying to decide what it is that negates his attractiveness. Last night they kept zooming in on his butt which didn't help- that's not his best asset.

Favorite moments: Finn playing the broom, the "say you love me" nerd chase, and Mike Chang/Harry Shum Jr.'s dance moment. (They have got to bring Shum into the forefront more.)

Is next week Regionals?

[Skammer]

Poor Rachel, dumped by her mom and then her boyfriend in successive weeks.

This week needed more Brittany/Santana, and we haven't seen Emma in forever. Glad to have Sue back though after a Sue-less episode last week.

[Cat Whisperer]

<snip>

Anyway, the rest was really good. I too loved the "Loser" fantasy at the store.Going to get this song as we speak. That was an excellent song for the "bad boys" - I love Finn's growl.

I want to see the outtakes for all the Morrison/Lynch scenes. How did they ever get through Tell Me Something Good without rolling on the floor laughing?I can only imagine - I'm guessing that one took a LONG time to shoot. :D

Also, am I the only one who wanted Will to grab Sue and kiss the everliving hell out of her in that scene at his apartment? Not romantically, but you know, competitively, like, "You want to go there? You don't know what you've started!"<snip>"I'm having sexy, non-murdering thoughts about Will Shue." I thought the consequences for Will stirring *that* hornet's nest would be a lot worse. A LOT worse.

[Cat Whisperer]

And what is this thing about white people not liking funk/not able to sing funk? I like funk just fine {snaps a zed}.

[alphaboi867]

...Also good to see Terri--looked like they might be setting up some kind of inappropriate relationship between her and Finn...

Hmm, season 1 she pretends to be pregnant with Will's child while Quinn is pregnant & pretend's Finn's the father. Maybe in season 2 Finn will get Terri pregnant for real. The storyline could either be very good or very bad. What's the age of consent in Ohio? ;)

Sue's date-wear:track suit with pearls.

Not that she didn't deserve it, but I don't think Sue's ever looked sadder & more pathetic then she did then.

[jayjay]

I've mentioned before that Matthew Morrison is an actor who I should find smoking hot- great voice, great body, etc., but just don't. I'm trying to decide what it is that negates his attractiveness.

I agree exactly. Morrison is, objectively, attractive. But there's just something off-putting about him that I can't figure out.

[Lady of the Lake]

I agree exactly. Morrison is, objectively, attractive. But there's just something off-putting about him that I can't figure out.

He kind of reminds me of a hobbit.

[sachertorte]

I agree exactly. Morrison is, objectively, attractive. But there's just something off-putting about him that I can't figure out.

I find the hair too curly. Maybe if he cut it short.

[TBG]

I really wish that the Loser segment in the store had gone longer, but it was pretty funny to see Puck air guitaring after Terri adjusted the stereo.

[Sampiro]

I find the hair too curly. Maybe if he cut it short.

It helps a bit (http://poponthepop.com/images/gallery/matthew-morrison-shaved-head.jpg).

[FriarTed]

I agree exactly. Morrison is, objectively, attractive. But there's just something off-putting about him that I can't figure out.

A smarmy expression maybe?

[Biggirl]

I was quite disappointed by Shue's so totally whitified Tell Me Something Good. Granted, no one can out-sex Chaka on that one, but that was just. . . pitiful.

Absolutely loved Loser. Only I was shocked when my daughter pointed out that that song is almost 20 years old. Damn, time flies.

[Lamia]

Absolutely loved Loser. Only I was shocked when my daughter pointed out that that song is almost 20 years old. Damn, time flies.I got a big grin on my face when I heard "Loser" begin, but (not for the first time) I also thought "This song is too old for these kids to remember from when it was a hit, and not old enough for them to have learned from the oldies station."

[Sampiro]

I got a big grin on my face when I heard "Loser" begin, but (not for the first time) I also thought "This song is too old for these kids to remember from when it was a hit, and not old enough for them to have learned from the oldies station."

It's one of those MST3K themesong moments:

If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
And other science facts,
Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show,
I should really just relax

Otherwise you'll be questioning how the house band at a community theater did such a great rendition of Dream On with no rehearsal or why Les Mis auditions had electric guitars in the first place, or how the Glee Club room has such fantastic spotlights or how the school manages to pay for a full time Glee club pianist who doesn't speak but is always "just around the corner" or where the accompanying instruments come from when it's just said pianist or how the school has such a stellar Glee club yet there's no overlap with the theater department or just exactly why Sue has such passionate hatred for the Glee club when she has boosters who'll pay for anything.;)

[Lamia]

Hey, I don't hold Glee to a high standard of realism. To the extent that the inclusion of '90s songs bothers me at all, it's only because right after I think "AW YEAH!" or "Ha ha, I remember this one!" I think "Wait, this song was a hit before these kids were born. WHEN DID I GET OLD?"

And I guess Puck might know "Loser" because his parents played it while he was growing up, although it doesn't make me feel any younger to think that today's teenagers might know songs from when I was a teenager because that's the kind of music their parents like! Of course, while Puck and Finn would have been either fetuses or infants when "Loser" was a hit, Mark Salling and Cory Monteith probably do remember it because they're nearly the same age as I am.

[waterj2]

I liked it but it's rare that there's not one song I wanted to play over again. It's not even that I don't like funk as I don't like those funk songs; my favorite by far was Quinn's It's a Man's/Man's/Man's World number.Not even Vocal Adrenaline's "Under Pressure"?

I quite liked all the songs, but thought the overall plot was a little weak. Certainly, as mentioned, the timeline for Jesse has him all over the place. I did appreciate the comment about Rachel not having erased his number from her phone, but didn't catch who said it.

Favorite line for me was: "That's because we're soulless automatons."

Favorite moments: Finn playing the broom, the "say you love me" nerd chase, and Mike Chang/Harry Shum Jr.'s dance moment. (They have got to bring Shum into the forefront more.)Yeah, Shum does a great job considering they never give him anything to actually say. Sometimes it seems like the show has way too many characters and stories to keep up with for the amount of time they have to do so. Any time they give to one story, they have to ignore other stories that are presumably continuing along on their own, leaving weirdness like all those weeks where nobody knew where Quinn was living. They do a pretty good job overall, though, so I'm sure we'll get more of Mike Chang as soon as they can work him in.

Is next week Regionals?I'm pretty sure the previews said that next episode is Regionals and the season finale.

[twickster]

.... They do a pretty good job overall, though, so I'm sure we'll get more of Mike Chang as soon as they can work him in.

I'm pretty sure the previews said that next episode is Regionals and the season finale.

According to the article in the recent Entertainment Weekly, yes, more Mike Chang next season.

And yes, next week is Regionals/season finale.

[Cat Whisperer]

I agree exactly. Morrison is, objectively, attractive. But there's just something off-putting about him that I can't figure out.
Too Geddy Lee-like? (http://cearensesinternacionais.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/geddy-lee1.jpg)

[WhyNot]

Hey, I don't hold Glee to a high standard of realism. To the extent that the inclusion of '90s songs bothers me at all, it's only because right after I think "AW YEAH!" or "Ha ha, I remember this one!" I think "Wait, this song was a hit before these kids were born. WHEN DID I GET OLD?"

And I guess Puck might know "Loser" because his parents played it while he was growing up, although it doesn't make me feel any younger to think that today's teenagers might know songs from when I was a teenager because that's the kind of music their parents like! Of course, while Puck and Finn would have been either fetuses or infants when "Loser" was a hit, Mark Salling and Cory Monteith probably do remember it because they're nearly the same age as I am.
About 7 years ago, my son came up to me after school and asked if I had "ever heard of this really old band...I think they're called Nirvana?"

I died a little inside.

ANYWAY, I thought this was a fair to middlin' episode. I just don't buy any "chemistry" between Shu and Sue, so the ploy just felt uncomfortable uncomfortable, not possible uncomfortable or hot uncomfortable, you know what I mean? They make great best enemies, but I don't read any real sexual tension between them (unlike between Sue and Bryan Ryan...that was HOT).

The music in this one left me cold, except for the opening number (which I forget what it was at the moment) by VA, and "Loser" was okay.

I want Jesse to die a death of a thousand papercuts. I was really hoping they'd play the gay card and match him up with Kurt, but after this, I don't think even Kurt would have him.

[Tangent]

IIRC, there has been some debate here about whether Finn was a senior this year. Maybe in the pilot he was identified as such? Or maybe it was assumed that he is an upperclassmen since he's the starting varsity quarterback.

Anyways, in this episode Terri asks Finn how old he is and he says "16." That would make him (most likely) a sophomore--same as Rachel.

[Sampiro]

IIRC, there has been some debate here about whether Finn was a senior this year. Maybe in the pilot he was identified as such? Or maybe it was assumed that he is an upperclassmen since he's the starting varsity quarterback.

Yeah, but the team sucks.

ANYWAY, I thought this was a fair to middlin' episode. I just don't buy any "chemistry" between Shu and Sue, so the ploy just felt uncomfortable uncomfortable, not possible uncomfortable or hot uncomfortable, you know what I mean? They make great best enemies, but I don't read any real sexual tension between them (unlike between Sue and Bryan Ryan...that was HOT).


Same here. Some on other message boards have suggested it's because Jane Lynch was in the news this week for marrying her partner but I don't think that's it at all as she and NPH, both queer, had chemistry- but it's just not there with Matthew Morrison. The age difference is a factor (even though Sue claims to be 29) plus I think Sue is too savvy to fall for so obvious a line. Admittedly they danced well together that one time, but it wasn't due to attraction so much as it was to Sue training up for the '40s ball with her date the anchorman.
Perhaps she's just very lonely; the only other people we've seen in her life are the anchorman who cheated on her and her retarded sister. I loved her apartment decor by the way, and was glad they remembered Will speaks Spanish.
Speaking of the gay issue, usually it's not a problem when I know an actor is gay to imagine him or her in a straight role; Frasier reruns lose nothing knowing that DHP is gay when he's chasing Daphne or John Mahoney when he's on a date. However, Jonathan Groff/Jesse is just someone I can't buy as a straight guy; he's probably fine on stage where there's a lot of distance and you don't notice all the details, but on the up-close-and-personal level of the camera he just screams "grab the asbestos suits cause the flames are this way coming" and I have more sexual chemistry with a plate of scrambled eggs than he has with Rachel. Anybody else get this vibe?


An unrelated question: I know nothing about show choirs. Are any of them really allowed to be as sexually suggestive in their moves and motions as Vocal Adrenoline was last night or as Nude Erections has been a couple of times?

Another unrelated question: I realize it's just a show and all but could a pregnant woman in good shape really dance like Quinn and the Unwedettes last night?

[Tangent]

Yeah, but the team sucks.

I know, and the quarterback thing wasn't my argument--just one I've seen other people post as evidence that Finn must be a senior or at least a junior.

And many really good varsity football teams have had sophomores for quarterbacks. Coaches love it when they find a great young QB they can start as a sophomore and ride to the playoffs three years in a row.

[Sampiro]

And many really good varsity football teams have had sophomores for quarterbacks. Coaches love it when they find a great young QB they can start as a sophomore and ride to the playoffs three years in a row.

Actually it's Kurt that wants to ride Finn for three years.

[jayjay]

Actually it's Kurt that wants to ride Finn for three years.

You're a bad, bad man.

[Tangent]

Actually it's Kurt that wants to ride Finn for three years.

Kurt may have to get in line behind Terri.

[WhyNot]

However, Jonathan Groff/Jesse is just someone I can't buy as a straight guy; he's probably fine on stage where there's a lot of distance and you don't notice all the details, but on the up-close-and-personal level of the camera he just screams "grab the asbestos suits cause the flames are this way coming" and I have more sexual chemistry with a plate of scrambled eggs than he has with Rachel. Anybody else get this vibe?
The vibe I get from him is a young guy who's probably gay but so far in the closet he doesn't see the fabulous fashions hanging from the bar. There are (or were, back in the stone age when I was in show choir) a LOT of these guys in show choir, and it's not unusual for them to date the leading lady, even so far as to have sex with or think he's in love with her...until his male best friend is suddenly more appealing. (Ask me how I know ;)). He's not in love with Rachel, he's in love with The TheatreTM, in a way straight guys of that age just aren't. She's just the projection of his love for drama and flash and all things Broadway. I honestly don't think Jesse knows he's gay, which is why I thought his growing awareness/coming out would have been a fun (if obvious) character development.

An unrelated question: I know nothing about show choirs. Are any of them really allowed to be as sexually suggestive in their moves and motions as Vocal Adrenoline was last night or as Nude Erections has been a couple of times?
Heh. Not in my day, we didn't. Of course, I graduated high school in 1992, so mores and dance styles have changed a bit, but still...

My show choir didn't compete, because there were no competitions back then in our region. We spent most of our performances in front of elementary school kids or at nursing homes, singing Beatles medleys and tunes from Showboat and the like. Our girls only show choir did have costumes that looked a whole lot like Columbia's from Rocky Horror Picture Show (red sequin tube tops, red satin tap shorts and white tuxedo jackets) but our dancing was not at all allowed to be sexy or suggestive. When they decided to put boys in the group, our costumes were changed, and nearly Victorian in their modestness (long sleeved black velvet shirts with long gold lamé skirts.) But again, times they have a changed. I know Poms and Cheerleading are a lot more sexed up than they used to be, perhaps Show Choir is as well.

Actually the biggest problem with suspension of disbelief I have on this show are the performances on stage. I can get behind the fantasy sequences and bizarre number of musicians of all ages who seem to neither teach nor attend class. But show choir music always placed great emphasis on the CHOIR part. Dancing was a part of it, but it wasn't nearly so advanced, and the emphasis was always on sound, not flash. And the biggest part of the sound was choral singing. Singing in groups. Harmonies and polyphony. These numbers with extended solos, or basically solo numbers with back up dancers? Not show choir. It's fun, but it ain't show choir. In a 30 minute show, we had less than 2 minutes of solo singing, generally limited to no more than one verse in each song. In competition, solos = suicide. The judges want to see how you work together as a group, not a star making opportunity.
Another unrelated question: I realize it's just a show and all but could a pregnant woman in good shape really dance like Quinn and the Unwedettes last night?Not really. Maybe if they were already professional dancers, but they seemed way too flexible and steady of balance to me. At 8 months (which is what most of them looked to me), your center of gravity is all wonky, and flowing undulations are not really in the repertoire.

(And, on preview, I'm now imagining a Terri/Finn/Kurt threesome. It ain't pretty.)

[Lamia]

ANYWAY, I thought this was a fair to middlin' episode. I just don't buy any "chemistry" between Shu and Sue, so the ploy just felt uncomfortable uncomfortable, not possible uncomfortable or hot uncomfortable, you know what I mean?I didn't get much chemistry there either, but I'm okay with that because it doesn't seem like there's going to be any lingering sexual tension there. Will was just trying to manipulate and hurt Sue, and by the end of the episode Sue got over whatever below-the-neck feelings she might have had. It would have been better if there'd been more of a "spark" between them, but I can believe that Sue is both horny and willing to have sex with a man she doesn't like or respect. She also has a high enough opinion of herself that I can see her accepting that Will had fallen for her. (And she probably doesn't think Will is smart enough to trick her!)

What I had a bit more trouble believing was that Will would really risk giving Sue a personal reason to want to destroy him! I'd be terrified of having Sue go all "Hell hath no fury" on me.

[Sampiro]

Another favorite line from last night was Sue with Kurt at Nationals:

"I'm all about taking a freakish depressed kid and showing them what winning means!"

(My understanding is that Sue and Chris Colfer are close in real life.)

Speaking of Harry Shum, Jr., check out his dance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrB6KO94ndg)at the Glee Live show.

[Sampiro]

(And, on preview, I'm now imagining a Terri/Finn/Kurt threesome. It ain't pretty.)

His eternal "My God what's happening/I'm about to cry" expression would reach new heights.

Also good to see Sandy Ryerson again.

He totally made the Run Joey Run video as Rachel's father (her third gay dad?).

I've Netflixed a movie that actor's in called Stephen Tobolowsky's Birthday Party (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437489/) that comes recommended. It's basically the actor as himself telling various stories from his career. Has anybody seen it?

[jackdavinci]

It was nice to see Terri again as well as the ex choir director guy. Anyone else we're missing?

Same here. Some on other message boards have suggested it's because Jane Lynch was in the news this week for marrying her partner but I don't think that's it at all as she and NPH, both queer, had chemistry- but it's just not there with Matthew Morrison.

She's older, and not as conventionally pretty. I could totally see her falling for him, visually anyway, but him not being attracted to her. It's not a gay thing. It's kind of a butch thing though - she has short hair, is a bully, and age has affected her conventional beauty. Plus, she's the villain! Yeah she could get caught up in his prettiness and charm and the passion of her hatred turned to passion for the nether regions, temporarily, but he could never go for her as long as she's batting for the dark side of the force.

However, Jonathan Groff/Jesse is just someone I can't buy as a straight guy

I don't have a problem with him. He's not femme like Kurt, he's just a theatre geek. All geeks and nerds past a certain threshold of geekiness start to acquire a slight aura of fagginess. And as we all know there's all manner of metrosexual straight guys and super butch gay guys. He's just really into theatre.

Another unrelated question: I realize it's just a show and all but could a pregnant woman in good shape really dance like Quinn and the Unwedettes last night?

I was wondering the same thing. I suspect the next episode will have her undulations during regionals lead to breaking of water...

I know, and the quarterback thing wasn't my argument--just one I've seen other people post as evidence that Finn must be a senior or at least a junior.

I was surprised to hear him say he's 16. But I guess it makes sense for them to want to keep the characters in high school as long as possible.

"I'm all about taking a freakish depressed kid and showing them what winning means!".

I missed what they had him do exactly. Something very long and in French?

[twickster]

It was nice to see Terri again as well as the ex choir director guy. Anyone else we're missing?


Wasn't the other guy at Terri's store a member of the trio with Will and the gym teacher at the beginning of the season?

[Serenata67]

I don't have a problem with him. He's not femme like Kurt, he's just a theatre geek. All geeks and nerds past a certain threshold of geekiness start to acquire a slight aura of fagginess. And as we all know there's all manner of metrosexual straight guys and super butch gay guys. He's just really into theatre.

That's the vibe I get from him. I'm buying that Jesse could like girls, but that he's a theater stud. When I was in high school, there were a couple guys who were big into music and theater, who were also ladies men. And they were just like Jesse. Dramaqueer on stage, straight as an arrow off. There were a few more like Kurt, who have since come out (if they hadn't then), but there were guys like Jesse who were (and are) straight.

I missed what they had him do exactly. Something very long and in French?

Yeah. Celine Dion for, like, 18 minutes... in French.

[gonzoron]

Re: Kurt at nationals, it was a 14-minute Celine Dion medley, I believe. (what that has to do with cheerleading is anyone's guess.)

Another great line from the episode:
Artie, saying what we were all thinking: "This is offensive."

ETA: yes, I believe "howard bamboo" (where do they get these awesome character names?) was in Acafellas..

[Unauthorized Cinnamon]

Speaking of the gay issue, usually it's not a problem when I know an actor is gay to imagine him or her in a straight role; Frasier reruns lose nothing knowing that DHP is gay when he's chasing Daphne or John Mahoney when he's on a date. However, Jonathan Groff/Jesse is just someone I can't buy as a straight guy; he's probably fine on stage where there's a lot of distance and you don't notice all the details, but on the up-close-and-personal level of the camera he just screams "grab the asbestos suits cause the flames are this way coming" and I have more sexual chemistry with a plate of scrambled eggs than he has with Rachel. Anybody else get this vibe?HOMOPHOBE (http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/11/ryan-murphy-newsweek-boycott/)!

But yeah, I'm with you. Some of his mannerisms (off-stage) are tellingly swishy, and I noticed it before I knew the actor's orientation.

[Munch]

My favorite part of the whole Quinn song selection was that "It's a Man's World" isn't anywhere close to being funk. And then it dawned on me - Quinn's IN a funk, and this is the song that she thinks fits best in that.

[MaxTheVool]

I totally buy Rachel and Jesse, largely because I'm a big fan of Spring Awakening, in which they had simulated sex on stage 8 times a week.

[Sampiro]

I totally buy Rachel and Jesse, largely because I'm a big fan of Spring Awakening, in which they had simulated sex on stage 8 times a week.

And even more during the play.

[gonzoron]

heh...

random youtube hopping from Sampiro's link led me to this rather boring interview with Harry Shum Jr....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycU0RxYQN6w&feature=related

but the highlight: during downtime, the cast plays Mafia. :)

[The Controvert]

What I had a bit more trouble believing was that Will would really risk giving Sue a personal reason to want to destroy him! I'd be terrified of having Sue go all "Hell hath no fury" on me.I, for one, would be terrified of death by "Shue Sue snoo snoo".

[The Controvert]

Missed the edit window, but... for sheer hilarity, try saying "Sue Shue snoo snoo" five times fast.

[FallenAngel]

An unrelated question: I know nothing about show choirs. Are any of them really allowed to be as sexually suggestive in their moves and motions as Vocal Adrenoline was last night or as Nude Erections has been a couple of times?



AHAHAHAHA!!!

I grew up about 40 minutes from the real Lima, Ohio. This is corn country, the suspenders clipped onto the Bible belt to keep your faith from slipping real honest to God place Jebus will want to build a summer home when He returns on that Gha-lorious Day, kind of area.

The biggest nearby city, Ft. Wayne, Indiana, actually banned George Michael's, "I Want Your Sex," from radio play. Christian evangelical groups routinely are invited to host school assemblies.

Case in point: When I was in show choir we did Three Dog Night's, "Joy to the World." After a couple of parents complained, we had to change the, "I helped him a-drinkin' his wine. Yes, he always had some mighty fine wine," to, "I helped him a-spending his time. Yes we always had a mighty fine time." Also, "Make sweet love to you," had to be changed to, "Spend some time with you."

As to dancing, no contact more provocative than you would find at a square dance was allowed.

[Sampiro]

Does anybody know if Harry Shum, Jr., is the son of Harry Shum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Shum), the MS executive? The reason I've wondered is because other than Glee H.S.Jr. is most famous for an ipod commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1in9CMhcNeo) which, if he is, must cause his father "no little embarrassment".

[ShibbOleth]

Does anybody know if Harry Shum, Jr., is the son of Harry Shum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Shum), the MS executive? The reason I've wondered is because other than Glee H.S.Jr. is most famous for an ipod commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1in9CMhcNeo) which, if he is, must cause his father "no little embarrassment".

I can't find anything to indicate that they're related. Junior was born in Costa Rica in 1982, per IMDB, so unless the other Asian was there on an assignment, it's unlikely.

Also, I'm fairly sure that MS holds a stake in Apple, so it wouldn't be as embarrassing as you might think.

[Sampiro]

HOMOPHOBE (http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/11/ryan-murphy-newsweek-boycott/)!

But yeah, I'm with you. Some of his mannerisms (off-stage) are tellingly swishy, and I noticed it before I knew the actor's orientation.

I meant to respond to this earlier but didn't:

I'd actually have little problem with the infamous Newsweek column if he'd left it at those two actors- Hayes and Groff. With Hayes it isn't necessarily a lack of acting talent but typecasting: he got rich and famous for playing a histrionic queen on Will & Grace and now it's next to impossible not to see him as Jack, just Jack when he's in another vehicle; the same would be true of Eric McCormack or David Schwimmer or Kelsey Grammer- they're typecast. With Groff it's his swishiness- the way he walks, his expressions, etc., all of which may be less noticeable onstage but up close and magnified by the camera it's different.
I don't agree that "no out-and-known gay actors can play straight"- NPH is just fine at it and so are Ian McKellan and Richard Chamberlain and a number of others- but it's just self delusion to say that some actors aren't just too gay seeming to be convincing as horndogs. Cheyenne Jackson on 30 Rock comes to mind: I didn't even know who he was when he first appeared on the show but thought "that guy's gay", which he is, and the episode where he's shagging Liz just seemed like Liz was shagging a gay guy (not for the first or 18th time).
It's similar to when Halle Berry played Queen, a character who passed as white. It's not racist to say that Halle Berry could never have actually passed for white in a place as racially paranoid as the Jim Crow South and it was distracting to the performance. It would be like Kathy Bates trying to play Queen Elizabeth II or overweight middle aged blonde and blue eyed me trying to play 17 to 24 year old Che Guevara in Evita- it's not so much lack of talent as just really bad miscasting.

[waterj2]

This behind the scenes look (http://www.details.com/celebrities-entertainment/movies-and-tv/201006/jonathan_groff_glee_exclusive_set_photos#slide=1) of the finale from Jonathan Groff isn't exactly making him look any less "swishy", with those pink shirts and doing a Queen number. It's mostly of the preparations for Vocal Adrenaline's Regionals performance, which looks amazing, with only a little bit of the main characters. You can see what New Directions' costumes are, but they don't say what the song is.

[HeadNinja]

As to dancing, no contact more provocative than you would find at a square dance was allowed.

If Saturday Night Live was better about sharing their clips I could show you some dirty square dancing. They did not even transcribe it:
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/90/90d.phtml