Pokemon Trades and Battles

[MeDrewNotYou]

Instead of hijacking boytyperanma's thread, here's the place to swap friend codes and trade or battle for the DS Pokemon games. All of the games (Diamond/Pearl/Platinum and Soul Silver/Heart Gold) can interact with each other, so if you or your child wants something, it can probably be arranged.

Use this thread to tell others what you're looking for, to work out trading details, and anything else related to the games.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Here's my response to BrickJr from the other thread-

Kids these days! :p
I've only had it a week though, so I don't feel too bad.

I'm trying to avoid abusing my huge collection from Diamond/Pearl so I don't have too many valuable Pokemon yet, but that also means I'm up for nearly any trade.

I just grabbed a Clefairy from GTS the other day, so I'll breed a Cleffa. (Looking for a particular nature or is it just for evolution to fill out the Pokedex?) I'm working on getting starters right now, so a Chikorita or any Hoenn starters would be great. I'd also be willing to trade my Lugia for a Ho-Oh or another Lugia.

My friend code is 4813 0487 9145 for Soul Silver
Thursday or Friday afternoon/evening is best for me, but if BrickJr is out of school, I don't mind doing things earlier in the day.

[CandidGamera]

I am so subscribing to this thread.

I avoided the Poke-madness for years. Years. And then a couple months ago, I was coming back from San Francisco and had a long layover. In the airport, I stopped at one of the little movie and video game stores to see if they had anything entertaining for my DS.

Ohhh, boy.

I picked up Pokemon Platinum, thinking it would be good to waste a few hours.

I have a thing where I need to collect all of a group of things when I only have part of them, so now, in an effort to 'Catch 'Em All', I own Diamond, Pearl, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Ruby, Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen. :smack:

[AClockworkMelon]

I am so subscribing to this thread.

I avoided the Poke-madness for years. Years. And then a couple months ago, I was coming back from San Francisco and had a long layover. In the airport, I stopped at one of the little movie and video game stores to see if they had anything entertaining for my DS.

Ohhh, boy.

I picked up Pokemon Platinum, thinking it would be good to waste a few hours.

I have a thing where I need to collect all of a group of things when I only have part of them, so now, in an effort to 'Catch 'Em All', I own Diamond, Pearl, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Ruby, Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen. :smack:Hahahaha!

It's a shame you missed the original Red and Blue. I wish I still had my retro-ish manual for that. Brings back memories man. Memories of simpler times. :P

[Bricker]

Thursday or Friday afternoon/evening is best for me, but if BrickJr is out of school, I don't mind doing things earlier in the day.

He's in school through next Friday, and then immediately goes into day camp next week.

Why don't we try for Thursday evening? I'll ask him if what he's got to offer for your Cleffy-thingy.

[Bricker]

ave a thing where I need to collect all of a group of things when I only have part of them, so now, in an effort to 'Catch 'Em All', I own Diamond, Pearl, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Ruby, Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen. :smack:

You and my son both!

Although he's had to wrestle with the decision to use his DSiXL, because he loves the size and additional functionality, but hates the lack of a second slot to play the GBA games. He's got a system now where he's switching back to the old DS to copy Pokemon from FireRed and LeafGreen (apparently you are limited to six per day per game).

[Duke]

Does he have any "shiny" Pokemon? L is all agog about these as of late. Of course, I realize that the asking price for a shiny Pokemon of any variety would probably involve "your mortal soul" as part of the deal, but as L says, it never hurts to ask...

[CandidGamera]

You and my son both!

Although he's had to wrestle with the decision to use his DSiXL, because he loves the size and additional functionality, but hates the lack of a second slot to play the GBA games. He's got a system now where he's switching back to the old DS to copy Pokemon from FireRed and LeafGreen (apparently you are limited to six per day per game).

Indeed. And I'm honestly on the verge of picking up a second DS (used, of course) so I can transfer Pokemon amongst my own DS games.

[CandidGamera]

Hahahaha!

It's a shame you missed the original Red and Blue. I wish I still had my retro-ish manual for that. Brings back memories man. Memories of simpler times. :P

The reason I missed out on them, mainly, is that I have a *very* poor track record with handhelds. I just never sustained much interest in them. I skipped the GameBoy and GameBoy Color.. got a GBA and then upgraded to the GBA SP, but they just ended up gathering dust.

The DS seems to have bucked the trend.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I am so subscribing to this thread.

I avoided the Poke-madness for years. Years. And then a couple months ago, I was coming back from San Francisco and had a long layover. In the airport, I stopped at one of the little movie and video game stores to see if they had anything entertaining for my DS.

Ohhh, boy.

I picked up Pokemon Platinum, thinking it would be good to waste a few hours.

I have a thing where I need to collect all of a group of things when I only have part of them, so now, in an effort to 'Catch 'Em All', I own Diamond, Pearl, HeartGold, SoulSilver, Ruby, Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen. :smack:

What frustrated me early on was that my gaming friends just dismissed Pokemon as just a childish game with little to offer older people. The thing is, though, that they're extremely well designed games that, if you dropped all the 'kiddy' baggage, would be recognized as the really high quality RPGs that they are. The Pokemon series has excellent customization, of course, but also manages to pull off a great balance between the tedium of levelling up and the rewards thereof.

He's in school through next Friday, and then immediately goes into day camp next week.

Why don't we try for Thursday evening? I'll ask him if what he's got to offer for your Cleffy-thingy.

Sounds good. After taking a look, I could use Sinnoh fire and water starters in addition to Chikorita and the Hoenn starters. So any of those would be great.

Does he have any "shiny" Pokemon? L is all agog about these as of late. Of course, I realize that the asking price for a shiny Pokemon of any variety would probably involve "your mortal soul" as part of the deal, but as L says, it never hurts to ask...

I have a shiny Gyarados and Palkia (it cost me a lvl 100 Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina, but it looks awesome!). I'll trade the Gyarados for just about any legendary, but the Palkia will cost you.

To be fair, Heart Gold and Soul Silver both have one shiny Gyarados appearing automatically that you can catch, so they aren't impossibly rare. If he plans on getting those games, it might be best to just wait, rather than giving something valuable for them. Since each game has only one, I think its fair to treat it like a legendary when trading.

[AClockworkMelon]

I agree about customization. Just reading the manuals that come with the game wouldn't make it incredibly obvious but based on how you raise your pokemon you can wind up with wildly different stat sets. My level 50 pikachu might be far stronger, faster or tougher than your level 50 pikachu, for example- to speak nothing of the different movesets they'd have. There are pages upon pages upon pages of information online regarding the ways you can customize your guys. When I first started playing it was pretty overwhelming but now I find it one of the most satisfying parts of the game. It really does feel as if the pokemon you've raised are yours and unique.

[CandidGamera]

What frustrated me early on was that my gaming friends just dismissed Pokemon as just a childish game with little to offer older people. The thing is, though, that they're extremely well designed games that, if you dropped all the 'kiddy' baggage, would be recognized as the really high quality RPGs that they are. The Pokemon series has excellent customization, of course, but also manages to pull off a great balance between the tedium of levelling up and the rewards thereof.

I think it's got more fiddly bits than the majority of RPGs, if you count breeding and 'training' for optimal Pokemon. How am I suppose to properly maximize IVs and EVs that I can't even seeeeeee?

[Duke]

To be fair, Heart Gold and Soul Silver both have one shiny Gyarados appearing automatically that you can catch, so they aren't impossibly rare. If he plans on getting those games, it might be best to just wait, rather than giving something valuable for them. Since each game has only one, I think its fair to treat it like a legendary when trading.

I believe L has the shiny Gyarados already. Over the weekend I overheard her--L is a she--talking about breeding it so she had a chance at a shiny Magikarp. Apparently breeding a shiny Pokemon with a plain Pokemon gives you a one-in-50 chance at getting a shiny baby. This gave me a chance to talk to L about probability and chance, but it also guaranteed that L is going to breed those Gyaradoses till they drop. Poke-Viagra, anyone?

[Bricker]

I agree about customization. Just reading the manuals that come with the game wouldn't make it incredibly obvious but based on how you raise your pokemon you can wind up with wildly different stat sets. My level 50 pikachu might be far stronger, faster or tougher than your level 50 pikachu, for example- to speak nothing of the different movesets they'd have. There are pages upon pages upon pages of information online regarding the ways you can customize your guys. When I first started playing it was pretty overwhelming but now I find it one of the most satisfying parts of the game. It really does feel as if the pokemon you've raised are yours and unique.

Yes... Bricker Jr once spent a weekend battling Starlys, only, so he would have a speedier Gyrados, in what he called "EV training."

I think it's got more fiddly bits than the majority of RPGs, if you count breeding and 'training' for optimal Pokemon. How am I suppose to properly maximize IVs and EVs that I can't even seeeeeee?

My son says there is a way to figure out what the IVs are when you first catch a Pokemon, and all the EVs are zero. Then you just train up the EVs you want. Also, if I remember corrcetly, there was some trick involving berries to change some EVs.

[AClockworkMelon]

Bricker, is "Bricker Jr" a cover for your love of Pokemon? ;)

[CandidGamera]

My son says there is a way to figure out what the IVs are when you first catch a Pokemon, and all the EVs are zero. Then you just train up the EVs you want. Also, if I remember corrcetly, there was some trick involving berries to change some EVs.

That's correct. But I think that's a level of fiddly bits beyond what I want to consider.

[Bricker]

Bricker, is "Bricker Jr" a cover for your love of Pokemon? ;)

No, no -- I admit to a fascination with the game, but it's more vicarious than actual.

And in case my word isn't convincing, MeDrewNotYou has actually battled Bricker Jr ovr WiFi, complete with voice chat... so he can readily attest to Bricker Jr's interest and existence...

[AClockworkMelon]

No, no -- I admit to a fascination with the game, but it's more vicarious than actual.

And in case my word isn't convincing, MeDrewNotYou has actually battled Bricker Jr ovr WiFi, complete with voice chat... so he can readily attest to Bricker Jr's interest and existence...Good enough for me!

[MeDrewNotYou]

No, no -- I admit to a fascination with the game, but it's more vicarious than actual.

And in case my word isn't convincing, MeDrewNotYou has actually battled Bricker Jr ovr WiFi, complete with voice chat... so he can readily attest to Bricker Jr's interest and existence...

Hehehehe. Your secret is safe with me. ;)

Seriously, though, BrickJr is a great kid. Smart, funny, and really nice to boot. (He let me borrow his Deoxys to get the Pokedex entry for nothing!)

Duke- No problem. If she's interested in the Palkia, let me know what kind of legendary Pokemon she has, especially the ones distributed by events and not catchable in-game.

[RandMcnally]

My friend code is: 1892 3407 1569

I am looking for a mudkip, chikorita, and a totodile. I have all the other starters that can be traded. I am sorely lacking in legendaries. I could also use a parasect with false swipe and spore.

I have a level 65ish team I have never battled but I think it may be fun. There is one maybe overused on the team, no ubers.

Can you believe it has been nearly a year since the last Pokemon thread?

[MeDrewNotYou]

My friend code is: 1892 3407 1569

I am looking for a mudkip, chikorita, and a totodile. I have all the other starters that can be traded. I am sorely lacking in legendaries. I could also use a parasect with false swipe and spore.

I have a level 65ish team I have never battled but I think it may be fun. There is one maybe overused on the team, no ubers.

Can you believe it has been nearly a year since the last Pokemon thread?

I think I have a Paras that you could just level up. He's lvl 16, already has False Swipe, and should learn Spore at 17. My collection of starters is a bit thin* and I don't have any of the ones you're looking for. Could you breed a Squirtle or Treecko for the Paras?

*-I do have a nearly complete Pokedex (484/493) on Pearl, but I'd like to do Soul Silver independently. I'm trying to avoid 'cheating' by just bringing over everything I need. My rule has been to only bring over Pokemon I could catch or breed myself and no bringing anything over level 30.

[CandidGamera]

I was fortunate to discover that the used copy of FireRed I bought has some very powerful Pokemon caught by the previous owner, and I have every intention of bringing them over!

[RandMcnally]

I think I have a Paras that you could just level up. He's lvl 16, already has False Swipe, and should learn Spore at 17. My collection of starters is a bit thin* and I don't have any of the ones you're looking for. Could you breed a Squirtle or Treecko for the Paras?

*-I do have a nearly complete Pokedex (484/493) on Pearl, but I'd like to do Soul Silver independently. I'm trying to avoid 'cheating' by just bringing over everything I need. My rule has been to only bring over Pokemon I could catch or breed myself and no bringing anything over level 30.

I've brought all my Pokemon to soulsilver. I spent a lot of time building that team.

I can breed you both squirtle and treeko for that paras and for a Pokemon to be named later.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I've brought all my Pokemon to soulsilver. I spent a lot of time building that team.

I can breed you both squirtle and treeko for that paras and for a Pokemon to be named later.

Sounds good. Maybe a Dratini with Extreme Speed? (You can get one after fighting the 8th gym leader, but since they take so long to evolve, maybe you'd appreciate the XP bonus.)

[Bricker]

Bricker Jr's friend code for HeartGold is: 1591 7229 0498

He is available now.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Sounds good. Maybe a Dratini with Extreme Speed? (You can get one after fighting the 8th gym leader, but since they take so long to evolve, maybe you'd appreciate the XP bonus.)

Actually, scratch the Dratini. I guess I don't have it anymore.

Bricker Jr's friend code for HeartGold is: 1591 7229 0498

He is available now.

I'll hop on until about 7. If that's no good, just give me another time before 8.

[Bricker]

Actually, scratch the Dratini. I guess I don't have it anymore.



I'll hop on until about 7. If that's no good, just give me another time before 8.

Oops.

How about tomorrow at 7?

[MeDrewNotYou]

Oops.

How about tomorrow at 7?

Sounds good. I'll bring a few different Cleffas so he can pick one that suits his needs.
Also, does Jr (or anyone else here) know if there's anyone in Gold/Silver that will tell you when you've maxed out EVs? I think I got 252/252/6 points for my Beldum, but my count might be a bit off and I want to be sure before I start levelling it.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Another EV question- Does a Pokemon holding the Exp. Share still get the EVs from battle? I'm pretty sure they do, and this page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EVs) seems to back that up saying this about the Generation I games: Unlike later games, the Exp. Share did not share EVs. That implies that all the games after Red/Blue/Yellow do give EVs with the Exp. Share. I'm suspicious, though, because the level ups I'm getting through the EV training seem to barely be increasing my Sp. Atk, which is one of the stats I'm building. (Fighting Unown for Atk/Sp. Atk in the Ruins of Alph should give 1 EV for each stat, or 2 EV each with the Pokerus virus.) Beldum doesn't have great Sp. Atk, but I've only gained 16 points in 14 levels, which seems low for a stat I'm focusing on.

(After a deeper look (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Beldum_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#Base_stats), the stat gain seems reasonable, since Beldum is really bad at Sp. Atk until it evolves, and even then Metang isn't too good until it becomes Metagross. I still would like confirmation on the Exp. Share from anyone that knows, though.)

[RandMcnally]

Here's another article (http://www.serebii.net/games/evs.shtml) about EVs. I'd summarize it for you but I honestly don't understand it too well.

What levels are the Pokemon on your team?

[Bricker]

Sounds good. I'll bring a few different Cleffas so he can pick one that suits his needs.
Also, does Jr (or anyone else here) know if there's anyone in Gold/Silver that will tell you when you've maxed out EVs? I think I got 252/252/6 points for my Beldum, but my count might be a bit off and I want to be sure before I start levelling it.

I asked Bricker Jr this question. He's just now waking up, and is still a bit loopy, but he says "Tell him you can get the effort ribbon from a woman in a house in Black Thorn city, in the same house where you trade Dragonair for Dodrio."

Does that answer your question?

[Bricker]

Another EV question- Does a Pokemon holding the Exp. Share still get the EVs from battle?

Yes.

Also you should be using the "Macho Brace." So if you have the virus (!?!) you double the 2 points you get in each stat to 4 for each Unknown fought.

ETA: also something about the difference between effort point and effort values. Didn't quite get it.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Here's another article (http://www.serebii.net/games/evs.shtml) about EVs. I'd summarize it for you but I honestly don't understand it too well.

What levels are the Pokemon on your team?

Most of the ones I use are right around lvl 50. A few are lower since I just brought them in to take on the next gym (next up is poison, so my Golem and Steelix are barely at 40), while a few that I use often are bulked up (Alakazam, Tyranitar, Machamp, and Magnezone are absolute beasts.)

The linked article is a lot more useful than the Bulbapedia one. I haven't EV trained since Ruby/Sapphire first came out, so I've pretty much forgotten everything in my senescence. ;)

I asked Bricker Jr this question. He's just now waking up, and is still a bit loopy, but he says "Tell him you can get the effort ribbon from a woman in a house in Black Thorn city, in the same house where you trade Dragonair for Dodrio."

Does that answer your question?

That's exactly what I was looking for, thanks! I forgot about the Macho Brace, so hopefully that will save a few hours of tedium the next time I work on EVs. As for the virus, its more like a cold virus (albeit a comic book one that grants super powers) than a computer virus. Pokemon in the wild have an incredibly low chance to be infected, much lower than the chance to find a shiny Pokemon, and it can then spread to others in your party by being nearby in battle. Nowadays, it isn't hard to find an infected Pokemon thanks to GTS, so its a pretty standard thing to infect whoever you plan on training to save a bunch of time.

Also, I think I know the difference between effort points and values, I was just being imprecise. But if its something not-obvious that he thinks I'm missing, I'd be glad to be corrected.

[Trion]

I'm a more casual Pokeplayer so I don't have anything all that special or legendary, but if anyone needs anything from Diamond, I'm up for a trade. I can post my friend code when I get home.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I'm a more casual Pokeplayer so I don't have anything all that special or legendary, but if anyone needs anything from Diamond, I'm up for a trade. I can post my friend code when I get home.

I could actually use a lot of the more common Pokemon from earlier games on Silver. Right now I'm looking for a couple of Wurmples, preferably lvl 1. I've got a ton of Luvdisc and Cubone if those interest you; if not tell me what you're looking for and I'll see if I have any.

[Trion]

I could actually use a lot of the more common Pokemon from earlier games on Silver. Right now I'm looking for a couple of Wurmples, preferably lvl 1. I've got a ton of Luvdisc and Cubone if those interest you; if not tell me what you're looking for and I'll see if I have any.

I've just checked and my Wurmple is evolved, but I'm sure I can get a few. Let me work on that this weekend. I can also offer other common stuff or even a Stunky if you need that. I'd love a Cubone or a Luvdisc.

My friend code is: 1548 7845 2648

[MeDrewNotYou]

I've just checked and my Wurmple is evolved, but I'm sure I can get a few. Let me work on that this weekend. I can also offer other common stuff or even a Stunky if you need that. I'd love a Cubone or a Luvdisc.

My friend code is: 1548 7845 2648

Do you know much about breeding? (The Pokemon kind, of course. ;) ) If you have a female of the evolved version, just leave it at the Pokemon Daycare in Solaceon Town with a male Pokemon of the same egg group. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bug_%28egg_group%29) For Beautifly and Dustox, just about any Bug-type will do. If the evolved version is male, you'll need a Ditto to leave it with. Talk to the old man in front of the Daycare every hundred steps or so and eventually he'll give you an egg. Eggs hatch after a certain number of steps*, depending on the species, but Bug-types tend to hatch pretty quickly. You can also reduce the number of steps by half by having a Pokemon with the Flame Body ability in your party (Slugma, Magcargo, or Torkoal are good choices).

If you want to get serious about breeding, you'll need a Ditto, but I've got a spare you can have. I need to get a few decent Poison-type, so maybe you can trade the Stunky for one.

So, tentatively, how does this sound?
Wurmple<->Cubone
Wurmple<->Luvdisc
Stunk<->Ditto

*-The best place to walk around is right outside the Daycare. There's a long path that extends from Route 210 in the north, through Solaceon Town, and down to Route 209 in the south just past the ghost tower. If you look at the dirt path running through town, the line extends from the far right portion. The fifth square from the left, if you prefer. You'll need to ride your bike, since there are some slopes you'll need to ride up and down, but the bike makes things go much faster anyways.

[Bricker]

He's on (and going downstairs!).

Also:turn on voice chat please.

[Trion]

Do you know much about breeding?


I've done some breeding, but it's been pretty hit and miss. I checked out my Beautifly and Dustox and as luck would have it both were male. Fortunately finding an appropriate female wasn't a problem. I now have two baby 1st level Wurmples for you as well as a Stunky around level 19 or so.


So, tentatively, how does this sound?
Wurmple<->Cubone
Wurmple<->Luvdisc
Stunk<->Ditto


Sounds good to me. I suggest a trade Sunday evening, say around 7:00 EST. I'll check the thread before then, by my weekend is weirdly scheduled and that's the first time I'm pretty sure I'll be available.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I've done some breeding, but it's been pretty hit and miss. I checked out my Beautifly and Dustox and as luck would have it both were male. Fortunately finding an appropriate female wasn't a problem. I now have two baby 1st level Wurmples for you as well as a Stunky around level 19 or so.



Sounds good to me. I suggest a trade Sunday evening, say around 7:00 EST. I'll check the thread before then, by my weekend is weirdly scheduled and that's the first time I'm pretty sure I'll be available.

Sounds good. The Luvdisc are lvl 20 and the Cubone are 10-15, but I can get a lvl 1 if you'd like. Probably not worth it with the Luvdisc*, since they're really only good for filling out the Pokedex, but Cubone/Marowak is a decent Ground-type with some unique moves that you might want to raise from scratch.

ETA- When caught in the wild, Luvdisc often carry Heart Scales for the move re-learner. That's probably the only reason anyone cares about them. In fact, that's why I have so many. The other day was a Luvdisc swarm and I grabbed 15 Heart Scales if you need one.

[Trion]

Sounds good. The Luvdisc are lvl 20 and the Cubone are 10-15, but I can get a lvl 1 if you'd like. Probably not worth it with the Luvdisc*, since they're really only good for filling out the Pokedex, but Cubone/Marowak is a decent Ground-type with some unique moves that you might want to raise from scratch.

ETA- When caught in the wild, Luvdisc often carry Heart Scales for the move re-learner. That's probably the only reason anyone cares about them. In fact, that's why I have so many. The other day was a Luvdisc swarm and I grabbed 15 Heart Scales if you need one.

Nah, don't bother with a level 1, whatever you've got is fine. A Heart Scale would be nice though.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Nah, don't bother with a level 1, whatever you've got is fine. A Heart Scale would be nice though.

I'll hop on in at about 15 minutes (6:45 for me, what timezone are you?) and just hang around for a bit. If I don't respond immediately, give me a minute or two. I'm at my parent's house taking care of the dog and he's a bit... ill this weekend.

[Trion]

Done and done. Thanks a lot Drew.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Done and done. Thanks a lot Drew.

I like the nicknames, especially Flower for a Stunky. The best I come up with is Belle for a Zubat. Bats in the belfry! Har har! ;)

Also, thanks for the berries. If I would've known, I'd given you a few. I have plenty of the resistance berries that reduce damage from X-type attacks. In SS and HG, you can send your mom some of your winnings and occasionally she'll spend it nice stuff like the rarer berries. I also have plenty on my Pearl game, along with much rarer Pokemon. If you need to borrow something like Deoxys or Regigigas to fill out your Pokedex, we can do a quick back and forth.

[Trion]

You are welcome to the berries. I thingk I've lost track of what I've got growing and what I have. ;)

I don't think I'm in need of anything right now, but if you ever want to set something up, feel free to hit me up here, send me a PM or even an e-mail from the address in my profile.

[CandidGamera]

My Zubat's names are Bruce, Kirk, and Squeak.

I finally located a copy of Pokemon Sapphire yesterday, completing my retro-set of the GBA games. Woohoo!

Am I correct in assuming you can breed additional copies of Starter Pokemon using Ditto?

[MeDrewNotYou]

My Zubat's names are Bruce, Kirk, and Squeak.

I finally located a copy of Pokemon Sapphire yesterday, completing my retro-set of the GBA games. Woohoo!

Am I correct in assuming you can breed additional copies of Starter Pokemon using Ditto?

Yup. Ditto is... versatile. ;)

But if you have a female of whatever you're trying to make, its best to use her and a male from the same egg group so that it'll inherit moves from the father, sometimes including ones it couldn't learn normally. The Bulbapedia page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Egg_groups) is useful (but Bulbapedia has been down for the last day or so), but you could also use the serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/pokemon_advance/egg-group.shtml) page. Harder to find what you're looking for, but it still has all the relevant info.

[CandidGamera]

Yup. Ditto is... versatile. ;)

But if you have a female of whatever you're trying to make, its best to use her and a male from the same egg group so that it'll inherit moves from the father, sometimes including ones it couldn't learn normally. The Bulbapedia page (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Egg_groups) is useful (but Bulbapedia has been down for the last day or so), but you could also use the serebii.net (http://www.serebii.net/pokemon_advance/egg-group.shtml) page. Harder to find what you're looking for, but it still has all the relevant info.

My understanding is female versions of starters are hard to come by?

[MeDrewNotYou]

My understanding is female versions of starters are hard to come by?

Yeah, something like 1/8 are female, either from picking one at the beginning of the game, or from breeding. Since starters are valuable enough trade fodder (and pretty good Pokemon), though, you'll probably want to breed a bunch and you'll naturally end up with a few females, which are slightly more valuable than usual, on your own.

[CandidGamera]

Yeah, something like 1/8 are female, either from picking one at the beginning of the game, or from breeding. Since starters are valuable enough trade fodder (and pretty good Pokemon), though, you'll probably want to breed a bunch and you'll naturally end up with a few females, which are slightly more valuable than usual, on your own.

A question about friend codes, then, while this thread is still active - are the friend codes associated with the DS, with the particular copy of the game, or with the particular save file?

[MeDrewNotYou]

A question about friend codes, then, while this thread is still active - are the friend codes associated with the DS, with the particular copy of the game, or with the particular save file?

Either with the copy of the game or the save file. I can trade between my copies of Silver and Pearl with the latter being on someone else's DS that had never been used for the game before. If you want to get a more specific answer, check your code then delete your save file and start a new game to find out. ;)

(If I had to guess, though, I'd say the code goes with the save and is probably related to the trainer ID. The games seem to base a lot of calculations off of that, like whether a given Pokemon is shiny or its IVs.)

[CandidGamera]

Either with the copy of the game or the save file. I can trade between my copies of Silver and Pearl with the latter being on someone else's DS that had never been used for the game before. If you want to get a more specific answer, check your code then delete your save file and start a new game to find out. ;)

(If I had to guess, though, I'd say the code goes with the save and is probably related to the trainer ID. The games seem to base a lot of calculations off of that, like whether a given Pokemon is shiny or its IVs.)

One wonders, then, how the trainer ID is determined. :)

[Bricker]

Either with the copy of the game or the save file. I can trade between my copies of Silver and Pearl with the latter being on someone else's DS that had never been used for the game before. If you want to get a more specific answer, check your code then delete your save file and start a new game to find out. ;)

(If I had to guess, though, I'd say the code goes with the save and is probably related to the trainer ID. The games seem to base a lot of calculations off of that, like whether a given Pokemon is shiny or its IVs.)

Hey, a question I can answer without referring to my young expert, since I had to help with friend code disaster following his first DS's untimely demise. And by the time the second one was replaced, I had the answers down pat.

The friend code is a function of the save file and the particular physical DS. If you move your game cart to a new DS, your friend code won't work over WiFi anymore.

Do not be fooled by the fact that you can trade or battle between DS's that are right next to each other. You can move your game cart from DS1 to DS2, and then trade or battle with no damage to the friend code, as long as you're not using WiFi. The games have a "local" place to battle and a different place to battle over WiFi. I think the distinction is being "upstairs" vs. being "downstairs" in the game.

So -- move your cart from DS1 to DS2 and engage in local battle with another DS? No problem. Engage in battle or trade using WiFi with a remote person? The old friend code won't work, and you'll get a message that says you're in the wrong DS and giving you the option to zap your old code and start with a fresh one.

Incidentally, I'll share the other thing I have some personal expertise in: WEP vs. WPA.

The new DSi and DSiXL models support WPA WiFi encryption. This is a good thing, because the WEP standard for WiFi is a useless joke, security-wise.

However, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver all require WEP encryption in order to work. They do not, in other words, simply work with whatever the DS can support. So you can use your DSi to browse the Internet, or download DSWare, using a WiFi hotspot that's protected with WPA. But if you wish to trade or battle in the Pokemon world, you must use a WiFi connection that has WEP (or no encryption at all).

This caused a fair bit of drama in the Bricker household, because my initial response to my son was, "Too bad. No way I am standing up a WEP access point."

Well, guess who won that battle?

So I ended up buying a separate AP, setting up WEP on it, and connecting it to a separate VLAN on my network, that routed to the main network only when the destination IP networks were white-listed. I stood up a dual-homed Linux box that handled the routing. So if someone were to break the pathetic WEP encryption, they would find their traffic can only go to Nintendo's IP ranges.

I ended up moving that functionality onto a VM on my ESXi host, but still: the cost to securely support my kid's desire to trade and battle with his friends was non-trivial.

[CandidGamera]

Hey, a question I can answer without referring to my young expert, since I had to help with friend code disaster following his first DS's untimely demise. And by the time the second one was replaced, I had the answers down pat.

The friend code is a function of the save file and the particular physical DS. If you move your game cart to a new DS, your friend code won't work over WiFi anymore.

Do not be fooled by the fact that you can trade or battle between DS's that are right next to each other. You can move your game cart from DS1 to DS2, and then trade or battle with no damage to the friend code, as long as you're not using WiFi. The games have a "local" place to battle and a different place to battle over WiFi. I think the distinction is being "upstairs" vs. being "downstairs" in the game.

So -- move your cart from DS1 to DS2 and engage in local battle with another DS? No problem. Engage in battle or trade using WiFi with a remote person? The old friend code won't work, and you'll get a message that says you're in the wrong DS and giving you the option to zap your old code and start with a fresh one.

Ahh. And I bet local trades and battles don't require the friend code, then.

Incidentally, I'll share the other thing I have some personal expertise in: WEP vs. WPA.

The new DSi and DSiXL models support WPA WiFi encryption. This is a good thing, because the WEP standard for WiFi is a useless joke, security-wise.

However, Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver all require WEP encryption in order to work. They do not, in other words, simply work with whatever the DS can support. So you can use your DSi to browse the Internet, or download DSWare, using a WiFi hotspot that's protected with WPA. But if you wish to trade or battle in the Pokemon world, you must use a WiFi connection that has WEP (or no encryption at all).

This caused a fair bit of drama in the Bricker household, because my initial response to my son was, "Too bad. No way I am standing up a WEP access point."

Well, guess who won that battle?

So I ended up buying a separate AP, setting up WEP on it, and connecting it to a separate VLAN on my network, that routed to the main network only when the destination IP networks were white-listed. I stood up a dual-homed Linux box that handled the routing. So if someone were to break the pathetic WEP encryption, they would find their traffic can only go to Nintendo's IP ranges.

I ended up moving that functionality onto a VM on my ESXi host, but still: the cost to securely support my kid's desire to trade and battle with his friends was non-trivial.

Too true. I have actually made two configurations for my wireless router - I can swap in WEP if I need to do something with the DS, then put WPA back on it when I'm done.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Bricker- You're right, I was 'upstairs' trading, not using the WiFi. As for the security issues, it was a huge pain for me too. I know very little about security and the needs of different programs, but it would seem pretty simple to just use WPA for everything. All of the things you can do over WiFi are just trading data. What makes it so special that it can't be treated like the DSWare or Internet?

[Bricker]

Ahh. And I bet local trades and battles don't require the friend code, then.


Right, although they do have code that checks to see if the local partner already exists in your list of friends and asks your permission to add them if they do not. But it doesn't use or need a friend code to "see" them.

[Bricker]

What makes it so special that it can't be treated like the DSWare or Internet?

If I had to guess, I'd say there's nothing special about it... just the decision to put the code for connecting to WiFi on the cart instead of just letting the DS expose an API-like interface and having every game use that. I think that's the direction Nintendo is going now with the DSi, and I will bet that when Black and White come out, they'll be "modular" rather than having their own code.

Bricker Jr is fairly dancing with anticipation about Black and White, by the way.

[MeDrewNotYou]

One wonders, then, how the trainer ID is determined. :)

I can't find anything on Serebii about ID, and Bulbapedia is similarly unhelpful. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trainer_ID) My only guess is that the random number generator does it, maybe using the system time/date as the seed.
But here's an example (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon#Generations_III_and_IV) of how it's used in the calculation for shininess that I mentioned earlier.

Bricker-Can Jr get his hands on a Chimchar or Torchic? And if so, is he interested in a Cyndaquil or Charmander? (Or anything else, for that matter?)

[RandMcnally]

Bricker-Can Jr get his hands on a Chimchar or Torchic? And if so, is he interested in a Cyndaquil or Charmander? (Or anything else, for that matter?)

I have a torchic I can give you if he can't get you one. This weekend is insanely busy but next week we can do our trades.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I have a torchic I can give you if he can't get you one. This weekend is insanely busy but next week we can do our trades.

I have a few Cyndaquil if you need one, while the Paras is ready to go. I'll just leave it at lvl 16, in case you want to do some EV training with it. Its only a few hundred exp to the next level anyways. As for when next week, just tell me whenever. I'm usually pretty free in the evening any day but Fri and Sat.

[Bricker]

I can't find anything on Serebii about ID, and Bulbapedia is similarly unhelpful. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trainer_ID) My only guess is that the random number generator does it, maybe using the system time/date as the seed.
But here's an example (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon#Generations_III_and_IV) of how it's used in the calculation for shininess that I mentioned earlier.

Bricker-Can Jr get his hands on a Chimchar or Torchic? And if so, is he interested in a Cyndaquil or Charmander? (Or anything else, for that matter?)

He said this morning he has an Infernape and so he can breed you a Chimchar. Maybe a weekend trade?

[MeDrewNotYou]

He said this morning he has an Infernape and so he can breed you a Chimchar. Maybe a weekend trade?

Sounds good. What's he looking for? I have a couple of good Charmanders with Flamethrower, one is Hasty and Strong Willed, the other Hardy and Mischievous. I also have a ton of Pikachus with a few spare Light Balls. (I've been really lucky lately catching things holding items.) If those don't interest him, he can just request whatever and I'll see what I can do.

[Bricker]

Sounds good. What's he looking for? I have a couple of good Charmanders with Flamethrower, one is Hasty and Strong Willed, the other Hardy and Mischievous. I also have a ton of Pikachus with a few spare Light Balls. (I've been really lucky lately catching things holding items.) If those don't interest him, he can just request whatever and I'll see what I can do.

He says he'd like "anything in the Bulbasaur family."

[MeDrewNotYou]

He says he'd like "anything in the Bulbasaur family."

That'll work. I have a Ditto on GTS looking for one, which shouldn't take too long. How does Sat/Sun afternoon sound?

[Revenant Threshold]

If anyone is willing, i'd quite like to trade my Poliwhirl and Scyther to someone, and then back again, to get them to evolve. I'm afraid I don't have a huge amount of rare/interesting Pokemon to actually trade with, though, but i'll have a look if there are requests in kind.

[MeDrewNotYou]

If anyone is willing, i'd quite like to trade my Poliwhirl and Scyther to someone, and then back again, to get them to evolve. I'm afraid I don't have a huge amount of rare/interesting Pokemon to actually trade with, though, but i'll have a look if there are requests in kind.

Poliwhirl w/ a King's Rock for Politoed, right? As as for the Scyther <-> Scizor, I wouldn't mid doing that either. I want one for my Pokedex, but I'd prefer keeping my Scyther.

[Revenant Threshold]

That's right. If possible, i'd like to trade them with each other's item, so they'd need to be swapped over and then sent back. I'm avaliable pretty much all day today, though i'm GMT so it's already 4:00pm here. Friend code's 2880 2251 3229.

[MeDrewNotYou]

That's right. If possible, i'd like to trade them with each other's item, so they'd need to be swapped over and then sent back. I'm avaliable pretty much all day today, though i'm GMT so it's already 4:00pm here. Friend code's 2880 2251 3229.

We've had some nasty storms over here, so my electricity has been a little intermittent. Would you mind if we we wait a day or two for things to come back to normal?*

(Mini-rant here. I stay with my parents over the summer, and ever since they moved, every time it so much as drizzles, the power and cable goes wacky. Friday night we had an epic storm that knocked out the power until around noon on Saturday and the cable came back late that night. Barely 20 minutes after I posted, we lose everything again and the power company says things won't be back until 6-8ish AM Monday. (I think that's 10-12ish GMT for you Revenant) Fortunately I can use the library computers, but I can't connect my DS to their network.)

I'll do the trades for free, but if you have a Hippowdon or it's pre-evolution I could use one of those. I can give you a something harder to find outside of Gold/Silver or just a junk Pokemon, but I'll throw one of the type resistance berries. They're a pain to find in Diamond/Pearl, but you get dozens in Gold/Silver.

*-The rescheduling applies to BrickJr too. My apologies for not being able to make our trade this weekend. Maybe you can squeeze me in an afternoon this week (or weekend if you've got school/camp/whatever).

[Revenant Threshold]

I've got HGold myself, but I don't mind whatever Pokemon/item you'd trade for the Hippowdon. I'll see what I can do about catching one, since I think it'll involve some Safari Zone jiggery-pokery, but it shouldn't be too tricky.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I've got HGold myself, but I don't mind whatever Pokemon/item you'd trade for the Hippowdon. I'll see what I can do about catching one, since I think it'll involve some Safari Zone jiggery-pokery, but it shouldn't be too tricky.

In that case, just grab a Spinarak, Gligar, Sableye, or anything from this list (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Heart_Gold#Pok.C3.A9mon) except Mankey and Arcanine. I don't want to make things a big hassle over something I can get from the Safari Zone myself.

[Revenant Threshold]

In that case, just grab a Spinarak, Gligar, Sableye, or anything from this list (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Heart_Gold#Pok.C3.A9mon) except Mankey and Arcanine. I don't want to make things a big hassle over something I can get from the Safari Zone myself. That lucky; I went out and spent a while trying to catch a Hippopotas (I needed one, anyway), only to find coming back on now that I must have quit without saving. :smack:

I have a Spinarak and Gligar already, helpfully (also from that list Mantine, Donphan, and Baltoy). Also lots of bred Bulbasaurs and a Smeargle, if you need one.

[MeDrewNotYou]

That lucky; I went out and spent a while trying to catch a Hippopotas (I needed one, anyway), only to find coming back on now that I must have quit without saving. :smack:

I have a Spinarak and Gligar already, helpfully (also from that list Mantine, Donphan, and Baltoy). Also lots of bred Bulbasaurs and a Smeargle, if you need one.

I'm terrible at remembering to save. I'll play a game for 3-4 hours, get up to go to the bathroom or something, then return and figure I must've saved before I left. Then BLAM! A few hours down the drain. :smack:

Since we're already getting together, and you have a few things I could use, is there anything from Silver you need? I need Spinarak, Gligar, Mantine, and Smeargle. Other than the stuff from that list, I have some Charmander, Cyndaquil, Turtwig, and with a little time to level them up for breeding, Mudkip and Piplup.

[Revenant Threshold]

I'd appreciate a Charmander. As far as Silver onlies go, a Ledyba/Ledian would be great.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Sorry for the absence, the weather has made for a bad week.

I have everyone's Pokemon, so just shoot me a date/time to trade.

Also, a few questions for BrickJr, or anyone else who cares to answer- According to Bulbapedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Days_of_the_week#HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_7), I'm supposed to find Brock in Diglett's cave on Saturday, where he'll trade me a Diglett for his Rhyhorn. First, is there any conditions for him appearing there? I've beaten him in a rematch a couple of times, and messed around with clock to try morning/day/night, but I still don't see him. Second, is it like with Jasmine's Steelix where the level of the Pokemon you give is the same as the one you receive? Third, same as the second question, but with Nature instead of level (I heard a rumor, but it was just some random nobody, not a Doper or a Doper-In-Training, so it isn't the most reliable. It was after I'd already traded, so I can't test it out.)

[AClockworkMelon]

and messed around with clockIf you ever mess with the clock all date-based events will be pushed back a week, just fyi.

[Revenant Threshold]

I have everyone's Pokemon, so just shoot me a date/time to trade. So far as today goes, i'm pretty much avaliable until around 6-ish here, so that'd be in around 3 hours. I'm guessing the evening here would probably be better, but i'm not certain as of yet when i'll be in later on. Other than that i'm fine anytime in the afternoon tomorrow or Monday.

[MeDrewNotYou]

If you ever mess with the clock all date-based events will be pushed back a week, just fyi.

... :smack:
(I'm making my rage face now.)

So far as today goes, i'm pretty much avaliable until around 6-ish here, so that'd be in around 3 hours. I'm guessing the evening here would probably be better, but i'm not certain as of yet when i'll be in later on. Other than that i'm fine anytime in the afternoon tomorrow or Monday.

I'm about to head over to a friend's to watch the soccer match (or football, I guess ;) ) so how about tomorrow afternoon your time? I have a few Ledyba and Charmander ready, so how about those for a Gligar and Smeargle? If there are any others you wanted, just say so and I'll take the stuff you mentioned previously. I'll check back tonight to get everything ready and see what I need to breed.

[Revenant Threshold]

I don't mind just taking a couple of pidgey or whatever for those other HGold exclusives you wanted. We'll need some random trade fodder for my evolution trades anyway. And yes, tomorrow afternoon is fine.

Good luck against Ghana!

[ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness]

I just had a very lucky accident. Jirachi is available for download via Wi-Fi. My son forgot to download the Winner's Path into Heart Gold. The distribution ended yesterday, but I tried it anyway. The mystery gift was still there, but it was a level 5 Jirachi (the same one distributed at Game Stop before the release of Heart Gold/Soul Silver).
Poking around on the internet reveals that this was supposed to be for the European versions of the Gen IV games, but , at least as of 10 minutes ago, it's working in North America (California to be precise).

Just thought you guys might want to know.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I don't mind just taking a couple of pidgey or whatever for those other HGold exclusives you wanted. We'll need some random trade fodder for my evolution trades anyway. And yes, tomorrow afternoon is fine.

Good luck against Ghana!

The match was pretty good, up until, you know, the US lost. :( Its up to you to defend group C's honor now against the dastardly Germans and the rest of the world, so good luck tomorrow/today!

As far when, how's 3/4 your time? (11/12 here I think)

I just had a very lucky accident. Jirachi is available for download via Wi-Fi. My son forgot to download the Winner's Path into Heart Gold. The distribution ended yesterday, but I tried it anyway. The mystery gift was still there, but it was a level 5 Jirachi (the same one distributed at Game Stop before the release of Heart Gold/Soul Silver).
Poking around on the internet reveals that this was supposed to be for the European versions of the Gen IV games, but , at least as of 10 minutes ago, it's working in North America (California to be precise).

Just thought you guys might want to know.

This worked for me just a little while ago, thanks for the tip! Even though your son missed out on Winner's Path, the Jirachi also comes with the Night Sky's Edge route for the Pokewalker for the next time he puts a Pokemon in it.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I don't mind just taking a couple of pidgey or whatever for those other HGold exclusives you wanted. We'll need some random trade fodder for my evolution trades anyway. And yes, tomorrow afternoon is fine.

Good luck against Ghana!

Nearly forgot to swap friend codes!

Mine is 4813 0487 9145

[Bricker]

I am sorry to report that Bricker Jr has mislaid his HG cart. We will have an intensive house search tomorrow, but at the moment, he is not in a position to do any of the previously mentioned trades.

[Revenant Threshold]

The match was pretty good, up until, you know, the US lost. :( Its up to you to defend group C's honor now against the dastardly Germans and the rest of the world, so good luck tomorrow/today!

As far when, how's 3/4 your time? (11/12 here I think) That's fine by me. And you know what they say about football; it's a game of two halves, and then the Germans win on penalties. ;)

[Revenant Threshold]

It's half four here at the moment. I think my understanding of time zones is still lacking.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I am sorry to report that Bricker Jr has mislaid his HG cart. We will have an intensive house search tomorrow, but at the moment, he is not in a position to do any of the previously mentioned trades.

No problem. I figure for all of my delaying, I owe him at least few years patience. I mean, a week is forever in kid-time.

It's half four here at the moment. I think my understanding of time zones is still lacking.

Internet crapped out on me again and just now came back; I jumped on, but I didn't see you. If tomorrow (your) afternoon is good, we can try again. Also, I think we're 4hrs apart right now, so its 5ish for you as of this post, right?

Tough luck with the Germans. I didn't see the first half, although the commentators said you were cheated out of a goal or two. The second half, though, was unfortunate. ;)

[Revenant Threshold]

Nope, your post was at 6, so just one hour out probably explains things. Tomorrow at around the same time your side would be fine (so I think, 11-12 there, 4-5 here).

We were robbed of one goal, but in the end, that didn't really seem to matter much. :)

[Revenant Threshold]

Ok, just to try and unmess up confusing time zone difficulties (I really should try a bit harder to get how it all works), it's 4pm here and i'm currently online.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Ok, just to try and unmess up confusing time zone difficulties (I really should try a bit harder to get how it all works), it's 4pm here and i'm currently online.

It has been going on and off all morning, but jumped on and saw you. Let me get things together and I'll be right back.

[Revenant Threshold]

I'm guessing your 'net is down again, but at least we got a couple of trades off.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I'm guessing your 'net is down again, but at least we got a couple of trades off.

Yep, it was. :(

The cable guy supposedly fixed it this morning, and so far things seem okay.

As for the trades, I thought we'd get them all done, otherwise I would've done the important stuff first. I can get you a lvl 1 Teddiursa if you'd like; Ursaring is a pretty decent Normal-type that's worth building up yourself and using. The Burmy (thanks Trion!) I bred some copies from. I think they're Sinnoh-only, and the Linoone is from Hoenn, although an unevolved Zigzagoon can be caught in Johto. If those two are unacceptable, I can get you some starters or whatever. The Vulpix is Silver only, but I have a Ninetails if you want me to breed you a lvl 1. They're decent, but there are tons better Fire-type to use so it probably isn't worth the trouble. Finally, I noticed you had your held items backwards. Give the Scyther the Metal Coat and the Poliwhirl the King's Rock. (I noticed you Scyther was super-levelled. I bred a butt-load of them on Pearl and a lot have really good Nature/IVs that I can bring over*. If you'd like, just give me a junk Pokemon that won't evolve with a Metal Coat and I'll give you one of the good lvl 1 Scyther with one if you'd like to start from scratch. Since Scizor and Scyther's base stats are so different, this may be worthwhile if you plan on customizing it EV-wise. I'd just use the item up for you, but they're kinda rare. ;) )

I'll check the thread every couple of hours tonight on the off chance that you're around. If you can't make it today, just say when we can try again. I'm open pretty much full-time during summer-break, so this is at your convenience.

*-I won't consider this cheating on my goal since I already have a Scyther on Silver and I'll just trade myself junk Pokemon in return. I'm open to criticism on this point, especially that of BrickJr, who I think is doing the same "no using super-charged previous collections" thing as I am. (Shoot, I love to hear the kid's opinion about anything Pokemon!)

[Revenant Threshold]

I don't IV/EV train, so really I don't mind about all that kind of thing to be honest - not a very pro trainer, i'll have to admit. ;)

A Teddiursa and a Burmy would be fine. Having the two swapped items was purposeful; i'm not certain whether the evolved version get moves automatically. I'm avaliable for trading from this point onwards today; next certain opportunity would be next Saturday, but it's not urgent, so I don't mind waiting.

[Revenant Threshold]

Cancel that, actually, i'm afraid i'm not going to be avaliable for the rest of the day.

[Bricker]

*-I won't consider this cheating on my goal since I already have a Scyther on Silver and I'll just trade myself junk Pokemon in return. I'm open to criticism on this point, especially that of BrickJr, who I think is doing the same "no using super-charged previous collections" thing as I am. (Shoot, I love to hear the kid's opinion about anything Pokemon!)
I'll ask him tonight!

[Trion]

The Burmy (thanks Trion!) I bred some copies from.


No problem. It's nice to know that my little guy is spreading his progeny far and wide.

Actually, it would be pretty cool if you could track that sort of thing.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Cancel that, actually, i'm afraid i'm not going to be avaliable for the rest of the day.

Saturday is actually probably great, if that's alright with you.

No problem. It's nice to know that my little guy is spreading his progeny far and wide.

Actually, it would be pretty cool if you could track that sort of thing.

The globe in the GTS is pretty nifty (I know where you all generally live, muhahaha!), but maybe being able to 'tag' one or two Pokemon and receive updates about where they go would be nice. I already get a message on the Wii when my GTS trades go through, so maybe a WiiWare app. Using Trainer ID, or something like the friend code but exclusive only to the cartridge, it doesn't seem too difficult to know where a given Pokemon is at any time. The big issue would seem to be the amount of info that Nintendo's servers would have to deal with, but charge 1000-1500 Wii points to cover those costs. (I'm by no means an expert, so please correct me as needed.)

[Revenant Threshold]

Alright, i'm going to go online now and hang around for a while.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Revenant- I'm about to leave for a couple of hours, but I'll be available pretty much any time after 6 GMT, including tonight and all day tomorrow. Also, I just had a Luvdisc swarm, so I have plenty of Heart Scales if you need some.

BrickJr-Here's how I've been playing Silver: I'm mostly not using my Pearl collection. The major exception is that if there's something I'm interested in raising in Silver, I'll bring a copy over for the bonus xp, but only if I actually caught it first. For example, I needed an Electric-type and decided on the Mareep family. I caught one in Silver and then went to Pearl and bred one to trade with myself. I've also traded with myself to evolve things, but only using items I found in Silver. The Pal Park is fair game, although I'm not eager to play through the GBA games for 30+ hrs just to get one or two legendaries again.

ETA- I just saw your post but I'm just about to step out the door. I'll post as soon as I get back, or we can go tomorrow.

[Revenant Threshold]

Alright, i'll go on then. Also a Heart Scale would be very appreciated; i'm afraid though I don't think I have any useful items myself, though i've got a few of the evolution stones if you want.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Alright, i'll go on then. Also a Heart Scale would be very appreciated; i'm afraid though I don't think I have any useful items myself, though i've got a few of the evolution stones if you want.

I'm back, but only for around an hour or so. I'll jump on WiFi and hopefully catch you. Any stones are good, as are any of the berries that "raise X in a pinch" other than Leichi berries. (I was wrong about this afternoon, but late tonight and all day tomorrow is still good if we miss each other.)

[Revenant Threshold]

Looks like we missed each other again. :p

I'm avaliable all day today. Give me a headsup when you're ready and i'll jump on.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Looks like we missed each other again. :p

I'm avaliable all day today. Give me a headsup when you're ready and i'll jump on.

How about now-ish? I'll go ahead and get on and you can jump in whenever you see this post. Also, have you caught Latias (the one running around Kanto) yet? I still need to catch Latios, but when I do, would you want to trade them back and forth to take care of that Pokedex entry? Or perhaps just trade them outright?

[Revenant Threshold]

Success! Thanks again for the trades. Nope, I haven't yet caught Latias, unfortunetly, but i'll happily trade them back and forth (or just forth) when and if I do.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I don't think that was my end that died, something over there? At least we had good timing on the trades. Also, neither of yours wanted to learn new moves. I started to panic a little when I couldn't cancel the evolution. I didn't get a look at the Politoed, but your Scizor is pretty impressive.

[Revenant Threshold]

I don't think that was my end that died, something over there? At least we had good timing on the trades. Also, neither of yours wanted to learn new moves. I started to panic a little when I couldn't cancel the evolution. I didn't get a look at the Politoed, but your Scizor is pretty impressive. My Politoed is an old party Pokemon, now generally being used as a HM slave. My Scizor is a bit too strong, unfortunetly; A combination of it largely being the only one in my current team i've had for most of the game plus it being pretty useful has meant it's much higher level than my others. It's been kept in the computer for a while while I try and train them up a bit to match.

[MeDrewNotYou]

My Politoed is an old party Pokemon, now generally being used as a HM slave. My Scizor is a bit too strong, unfortunetly; A combination of it largely being the only one in my current team i've had for most of the game plus it being pretty useful has meant it's much higher level than my others. It's been kept in the computer for a while while I try and train them up a bit to match.

I didn't see all of its moves, but they can learn False Swipe (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/False_Swipe_%28move%29) at lvl 13 or in your case just use TM54 (I think it only costs $1000 at Goldenrod's Department Store). If you're going to have a Pokemon with that high a level and with such great Attack, you can probably spare a slot, since it must be getting 1-hit KOs with regular attacks. It could simplify catching a lot of the legendaries and huge pains like Chansey, since you'll only need to worry about recoil damage

[MeDrewNotYou]

Insomnia struck, so I got around to catching some legendaries while the Dusk Ball gets a bonus. First, I finally got Entei, after having had him asleep and nearly dead for 2 weeks. That rounds out the wandering Johto legendaries, so if anyone wants to trade, I'm up for it to get the xp bonus. Second, I caught Latios, so as soon you're ready we can trade Revenant. Finally, I caught Groudon* (who turns out to have great stats, unlike my Hoenn one). I got lucky and found a Johto Kyogre for cheap on GTS, so I don't need to borrow one from someone with Gold. However, if any of you need to borrow Johto Groudon, I can spare him for a bit, as long as you feed him and scratch him under the chin. For that matter, I can loan a Johto Kyogre to someone with Silver, but I think I'm the only one around. :cool:

*-After you beat Red on top of Mt. Silver, Mr. Pokemon will give you an orb: Red for Soul Silver, Blue for Heart Gold. Go to the Embedded Tower south of the Safari Zone (you'll need Surf and Rock Climb) and you'll find Groudon (Silver) or Kyogre (Gold). Catch it and show it to Prof. Oak and he'll tell you to get the other one, but it has to be caught in Johto. Show him the one from the other version and he'll give you the Jade Orb, which you can take back to Embedded Tower and catch Rayquaza.

[CandidGamera]

Woo! 8 Gym Badges in Platinum. Also caught Giratina, Uxie, and Azelf. I'm getting there!

[Bricker]

I have steered my son away from any sort of cheating devices, and he hasn't really expressed an interest in them.

But this is ridiculous. It does appear that he's lost his HeartGold game permanantly. We had high hopes it would show up in a day or two, but no such luck. I have thus bought hima replacement and if I know him he'll simply shrug and start over.

But this irritates me no end. I back up my important electronic data. He had better than 200 hours of playtime on that game, and had captured ~375 of the 500-ish Pokemon available, and all of that effort is gone.

So this time I am going to find and buy a device that lets me back up his saved game, the sole purpose being to save him from a similar disaster.

He's stoic about the issue, but... damn. 200 hours.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Woo! 8 Gym Badges in Platinum. Also caught Giratina, Uxie, and Azelf. I'm getting there!

Congrats! I could use any of the 3 lake legendaries if you're willing to trade. I've got Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno, Entei, Raikou, and Suicune if you need them.

I have steered my son away from any sort of cheating devices, and he hasn't really expressed an interest in them.

But this is ridiculous. It does appear that he's lost his HeartGold game permanantly. We had high hopes it would show up in a day or two, but no such luck. I have thus bought hima replacement and if I know him he'll simply shrug and start over.

But this irritates me no end. I back up my important electronic data. He had better than 200 hours of playtime on that game, and had captured ~375 of the 500-ish Pokemon available, and all of that effort is gone.

So this time I am going to find and buy a device that lets me back up his saved game, the sole purpose being to save him from a similar disaster.

He's stoic about the issue, but... damn. 200 hours.

Ouch. :(

I don't know of any way to back up saves on the DS unless you're emulating, and that's a mess in and of itself. If BrickJr needs anything I can breed, I'd be happy to give him a leg up. I can throw in a Lucky Egg as well to speed his levelling if that will help. I've also got plenty of berries if he needs help getting the rarer ones.

[Bricker]

This device (http://www.hkems.com/product/nintendo/0907.htm) is my plan.

[MeDrewNotYou]

This device (http://www.hkems.com/product/nintendo/0907.htm) is my plan.

Those look pretty useful. I didn't see a price, but do you know how much they are? My main beef with cartridge games, and especially the Pokemon series, is limited save files. Deleting hundreds of hours of work or shelling out another $30 just to replay a game sucks.

[Bricker]

This device (http://www.hkems.com/product/nintendo/0907.htm) is my plan.

Those look pretty useful. I didn't see a price, but do you know how much they are? My main beef with cartridge games, and especially the Pokemon series, is limited save files. Deleting hundreds of hours of work or shelling out another $30 just to replay a game sucks.

$25.99 plus shipping from Hong Kong. I have one ordered and on the way. I'll report on results.

It's obvious that a bit of creative work with this would let some cheating take place... (i.e., I'll give you Super Pokemon for a garbage one, and you owe me a Super One to be named later.) Then just reload the old save file, and, hey bingo, I have my Super Pokemon back again, plus your I.O.U. for another Super Pokemon).

But my intention is to let him use this as simply a backup device, not as a part of gameplay... that is, the backup gets restored only in case of data loss.

[Trion]

Woo! 8 Gym Badges in Platinum. Also caught Giratina, Uxie, and Azelf. I'm getting there!

Right there with you. I've been messing around with Diamond and got some legendaries, a shiny Wooper and various pokeradar catches.

[CandidGamera]

Woo! 8 Gym Badges in Platinum. Also caught Giratina, Uxie, and Azelf. I'm getting there!

Congrats! I could use any of the 3 lake legendaries if you're willing to trade. I've got Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno, Entei, Raikou, and Suicune if you need them.

Not just yet. I need to see what I can put together from my various games so I'll know what I can't easily get.

And I found my first Shiny Pokemon yesterday!

[Bricker]

Bricker Jr asks is everyone is aware of the Diamond/Pearl/Plat method of catching shiny Pokemon called "chaining?"

If not, he can explain.

[Trion]

Bricker Jr asks is everyone is aware of the Diamond/Pearl/Plat method of catching shiny Pokemon called "chaining?"

If not, he can explain.

I'm good. I managed to chain some Dittos. Nothing shiny, but I haven't really been trying.

[Trion]

Actually, if Bricker Jr. needs a Ditto to help him get back on track, I can offer one of mine.

I'm only reluctant to set up trades right now for two reasons:

1) Our wireless router is all messed up and I need to take care of that.

and

2) The family and I are headed out for a few days of vacation on Satuday. We should be back on Wed., and after that I'm probably good to go.

[CandidGamera]

Bricker Jr asks is everyone is aware of the Diamond/Pearl/Plat method of catching shiny Pokemon called "chaining?"

If not, he can explain.

I read something about it on GameFAQs, I think.

[MeDrewNotYou]

Woo! 8 Gym Badges in Platinum. Also caught Giratina, Uxie, and Azelf. I'm getting there!

Congrats! I could use any of the 3 lake legendaries if you're willing to trade. I've got Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno, Entei, Raikou, and Suicune if you need them.

Not just yet. I need to see what I can put together from my various games so I'll know what I can't easily get.

And I found my first Shiny Pokemon yesterday!

Congrats! What was it?
I recently caught a shiny Gyarados, but since there's already an automatic on in HG/SS, it isn't as eye-catching. You have to look at the trainer info, and who wants to bother doing that? :p

Bricker Jr asks is everyone is aware of the Diamond/Pearl/Plat method of catching shiny Pokemon called "chaining?"

If not, he can explain.

I know about it, but I've never gotten it to work. My highest chains end in the 20s. A friend recently gave me his copy of Diamond, though, so when I start playing that I'll be more thorough.

[CandidGamera]

Congrats! What was it?
I recently caught a shiny Gyarados, but since there's already an automatic on in HG/SS, it isn't as eye-catching. You have to look at the trainer info, and who wants to bother doing that? :p


Mr. Mime.

[RandMcnally]

I have a torchic I can give you if he can't get you one. This weekend is insanely busy but next week we can do our trades.

I have a few Cyndaquil if you need one, while the Paras is ready to go. I'll just leave it at lvl 16, in case you want to do some EV training with it. Its only a few hundred exp to the next level anyways. As for when next week, just tell me whenever. I'm usually pretty free in the evening any day but Fri and Sat.

Ok, this has been an insane month for me but I am finally moved in to my new place and I can start trading again. Would tonight be of any interest for you? Tomorrow?

Rehash: I am looking for a Paras that has false swipe and I can teach spore to. In return I shall give you...

[Bricker]

Well, Bricker Jr is in the Dominican Republic for three weeks, so my usual abaility to dispense arcane Pokemon knowledge is substantially inhibited.

Happy to report that the device in post 112 is here and works. It creates a 512 KB .SAV file that can be loaded on the same or another retail cart. Tested by buying a new HeartGold game, untouched by human hands, and the transferring his game to it. Came up and worked perfectly.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I have a few Cyndaquil if you need one, while the Paras is ready to go. I'll just leave it at lvl 16, in case you want to do some EV training with it. Its only a few hundred exp to the next level anyways. As for when next week, just tell me whenever. I'm usually pretty free in the evening any day but Fri and Sat.

Ok, this has been an insane month for me but I am finally moved in to my new place and I can start trading again. Would tonight be of any interest for you? Tomorrow?

Rehash: I am looking for a Paras that has false swipe and I can teach spore to. In return I shall give you...

How about Wednesday night? I finished up getting the starters, so do you have any of the following: Remoraid (preferably under lvl 10), Hitmonlee, Hitmontop, Seviper, Cranidos, or Shieldon. If not, the Torchic or any other starters (especially Sinnoh) are fine.

In case you forgot, I taught the Paras False Swipe via TM. She'll learn Spore when he levels up to 17. Her other current moves are Leech Life, Stun Spore, and Scratch/

Well, Bricker Jr is in the Dominican Republic for three weeks, so my usual abaility to dispense arcane Pokemon knowledge is substantially inhibited.

Happy to report that the device in post 112 is here and works. It creates a 512 KB .SAV file that can be loaded on the same or another retail cart. Tested by buying a new HeartGold game, untouched by human hands, and the transferring his game to it. Came up and worked perfectly.

We all know you're a secret Pokemon lover. Or at least you're a semi-expert just through osmosis from BrickJr. (Quick! What are Dragon-type's weaknesses?!) ;) Hope he has fun on vacation!

BTW, how much did the thing cost? I looked at the link when you initially posted it, but couldn't find the price.

[Bricker]

(Quick! What are Dragon-type's weaknesses?!)

Gambling? Fine scotch? Other... cute.... dragon types?


BTW, how much did the thing cost? I looked at the link when you initially posted it, but couldn't find the price.

It was $25.99, plus shipping (I paid express) from Hong Kong.

[MeDrewNotYou]

(Quick! What are Dragon-type's weaknesses?!)

Gambling? Fine scotch? Other... cute.... dragon types?


BTW, how much did the thing cost? I looked at the link when you initially posted it, but couldn't find the price.

It was $25.99, plus shipping (I paid express) from Hong Kong.

You might be on to something here. Here we are fighting these giant creatures by scratching them or blowing bubbles when we could just be bribing them. "I'll tell you what Mr. Dragonite. You don't breathe fire at me and I'll introduce you to this nice young Dragonaire in Box 8. I'll even drop you two off at the Day Care Center!" Or imagine Pikachu after a drunken Vegas spree; he'll practically beg to be put into a nice quiet Pokeball. This could even get past the restriction of capturing other trainer's Pokemon. Why should you train your butt off and fight every day when that nice guy over there is offering you all the berries you can eat?

(Actually, you were partially correct, or fully if you take your scotch on the rocks. Dragons are weak to ice and dragon attacks.)

[Bricker]

Gambling? Fine scotch? Other... cute.... dragon types?



It was $25.99, plus shipping (I paid express) from Hong Kong.

You might be on to something here. Here we are fighting these giant creatures by scratching them or blowing bubbles when we could just be bribing them. "I'll tell you what Mr. Dragonite. You don't breathe fire at me and I'll introduce you to this nice young Dragonaire in Box 8. I'll even drop you two off at the Day Care Center!" Or imagine Pikachu after a drunken Vegas spree; he'll practically beg to be put into a nice quiet Pokeball. This could even get past the restriction of capturing other trainer's Pokemon. Why should you train your butt off and fight every day when that nice guy over there is offering you all the berries you can eat?

(Actually, you were partially correct, or fully if you take your scotch on the rocks. Dragons are weak to ice and dragon attacks.)

Well, good scotch is served neat -- no ice. But I take your point. And I just had a nice conversation w/ Bricker Jr, who is delighted to find his DR Pokemon friends have SoulSilver, and is enjoying things greatly there.

But I read him some of this exchange and could hear him roll his eyes at my response, and then supply "ice" and "dragon" as the right answers. And he points out that in Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness, you CAN capture other trainers' Pokemon.

And the Day Care Center reference I got on my own, so I'm not totally useless! :)

[RandMcnally]

Ok, this has been an insane month for me but I am finally moved in to my new place and I can start trading again. Would tonight be of any interest for you? Tomorrow?

Rehash: I am looking for a Paras that has false swipe and I can teach spore to. In return I shall give you...

How about Wednesday night? I finished up getting the starters, so do you have any of the following: Remoraid (preferably under lvl 10), Hitmonlee, Hitmontop, Seviper, Cranidos, or Shieldon. If not, the Torchic or any other starters (especially Sinnoh) are fine.

Sounds good. What time tonight would you like? Preferably before 430 pacific, but I can do later than that if need be.

[Trion]

Well, I'm back from the wilds of Northern Vermont and I have a question for the combined Pokemon brain trust. A while back I managed to catch a Smeargle and I haven't yet done much with him. Any advice on what moves to get him to Sketch? Preferably they should be moves I can find in Diamond.

[MeDrewNotYou]

How about Wednesday night? I finished up getting the starters, so do you have any of the following: Remoraid (preferably under lvl 10), Hitmonlee, Hitmontop, Seviper, Cranidos, or Shieldon. If not, the Torchic or any other starters (especially Sinnoh) are fine.

Sounds good. What time tonight would you like? Preferably before 430 pacific, but I can do later than that if need be.

I think 4PST is 7EST, is that fine?

Well, I'm back from the wilds of Northern Vermont and I have a question for the combined Pokemon brain trust. A while back I managed to catch a Smeargle and I haven't yet done much with him. Any advice on what moves to get him to Sketch? Preferably they should be moves I can find in Diamond.

I've never messed around with Smeargle, but I would probably go with a collection of signature moves(Mist Ball or Luster Purge from Latias or Latios respectively, Aeroblast from Lugia , or Ho Oh's Sacred Fire, which is especially strong). Maybe throw in Extreme Speed for STAB and a first strike.

[RandMcnally]

Sounds good. What time tonight would you like? Preferably before 430 pacific, but I can do later than that if need be.

I think 4PST is 7EST, is that fine?

That's great. I have a torchic, treeko, turtwig, and squirtle for you if you want.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I think 4PST is 7EST, is that fine?

That's great. I have a torchic, treeko, turtwig, and squirtle for you if you want.

If any of them have decent egg moves, I'll take that one. If not, the Squirtle would be best.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I went ahead and levelled the Paras to 17 and replaced Stun Spore with Spore while I was giving it the Pokerus. However, I fed it a few berries, so the EVs are back to zero. I'm going to hop on WiFi now, just in case you're early.

[RandMcnally]

I went ahead and levelled the Paras to 17 and replaced Stun Spore with Spore while I was giving it the Pokerus. However, I fed it a few berries, so the EVs are back to zero. I'm going to hop on WiFi now, just in case you're early.

You know what I just realized? I don't have your friend ID.

Mine is: 1892 3407 1569

[MeDrewNotYou]

I went ahead and levelled the Paras to 17 and replaced Stun Spore with Spore while I was giving it the Pokerus. However, I fed it a few berries, so the EVs are back to zero. I'm going to hop on WiFi now, just in case you're early.

You know what I just realized? I don't have your friend ID.

Mine is: 1892 3407 1569

:smack: I was wondering just that.
4813 0487 9145

And to double check, I have you as 1892 3407 1569

ETA- I have my Deoxys with me if you need to add it to your Pokedex. We can do a quick back and forth with it if you want.

[MeDrewNotYou]

I went ahead and levelled the Paras to 17 and replaced Stun Spore with Spore while I was giving it the Pokerus. However, I fed it a few berries, so the EVs are back to zero. I'm going to hop on WiFi now, just in case you're early.

You know what I just realized? I don't have your friend ID.

Mine is: 1892 3407 1569

I just saw the Torchic, do you mind if I take it instead? Great egg moves. :D

[MeDrewNotYou]

You know what I just realized? I don't have your friend ID.

Mine is: 1892 3407 1569

I just saw the Torchic, do you mind if I take it instead? Great egg moves. :D

Actually, its starting to storm pretty heavily here, so maybe we could set this up some other time. I have lots of Chansey and Happiny, but if you have anything in mind, just tell me.

[RandMcnally]

I just saw the Torchic, do you mind if I take it instead? Great egg moves. :D

Actually, its starting to storm pretty heavily here, so maybe we could set this up some other time. I have lots of Chansey and Happiny, but if you have anything in mind, just tell me.

We can do this tomorrow if you'd like. I'll look tonight and see what I need. You're talking about the Torchic with flamerthrower and aerial ace or whatever?

[MeDrewNotYou]

Actually, its starting to storm pretty heavily here, so maybe we could set this up some other time. I have lots of Chansey and Happiny, but if you have anything in mind, just tell me.

We can do this tomorrow if you'd like. I'll look tonight and see what I need. You're talking about the Torchic with flamerthrower and aerial ace or whatever?

That's the one. Its a pain to get Flamethrower on the evolved version (Torchic learns it at 43, the others not at all) and Aerial Ace is preferable to the Flying moves they pick up.

Other than the Chansey/Happiny, other things I have on hand include Smoochum, Snover, Bulbasaur, Charmander (w/ Flamethrower), and Mantyke. Or, perhaps, Mudkip. (I herd u leik them. (http://knowyourmeme.com/i/89/original/mudkips-herd.jpg))

ETA- We can do this tomorrow night if I already have what you want, otherwise we can try Friday or Saturday.

[RandMcnally]

We can do this tomorrow if you'd like. I'll look tonight and see what I need. You're talking about the Torchic with flamerthrower and aerial ace or whatever?

That's the one. Its a pain to get Flamethrower on the evolved version (Torchic learns it at 43, the others not at all) and Aerial Ace is preferable to the Flying moves they pick up.

Other than the Chansey/Happiny, other things I have on hand include Smoochum, Snover, Bulbasaur, Charmander (w/ Flamethrower), and Mantyke. Or, perhaps, Mudkip. (I herd u leik them. (http://knowyourmeme.com/i/89/original/mudkips-herd.jpg))

ETA- We can do this tomorrow night if I already have what you want, otherwise we can try Friday or Saturday.

I would love a Mudkip.

Tomorrow is good. Same time? I won't be late.

[MeDrewNotYou]

[QUOTE=MeDrewNotYou;12765707]

I would love a Mudkip.

Tomorrow is good. Same time? I won't be late.

Sounds good. Any berries you need, perhaps Enigma or Jabocca? I could use any of the "raises stat in a pinch" for anything but attack, but it isn't a big deal.

[RandMcnally]

[QUOTE=RandMcnally;12766159]

Sounds good. Any berries you need, perhaps Enigma or Jabocca? I could use any of the "raises stat in a pinch" for anything but attack, but it isn't a big deal.

I just looked and I don't have any berries besides the "lessens super effective attack" type.

[Bricker]

Just talked to Bricker Jr, and he wishes me to convey the following important information:

The Enigma Stone is available via Wi-Fi mystery gift right now to HG and SS American players.

That is all.

[CandidGamera]

Just talked to Bricker Jr, and he wishes me to convey the following important information:

The Enigma Stone is available via Wi-Fi mystery gift right now to HG and SS American players.

That is all.

What does the Enigma Stone do?

[MeDrewNotYou]

[QUOTE=MeDrewNotYou;12766374]

I just looked and I don't have any berries besides the "lessens super effective attack" type.

No problem. As for your Mudkip, the egg moves are Surf and Mud Bomb. Since he can learn Muddy Water later (a better move IMO with the same power and accuracy, but an added effect) and you can teach it Surf yourself if you want the move, I erased it.

Just talked to Bricker Jr, and he wishes me to convey the following important information:

The Enigma Stone is available via Wi-Fi mystery gift right now to HG and SS American players.

That is all.

I admire that, despite being thousands of miles away on vacation, he still sees fit to help us with our collections. Thanks for the heads up! I finally got a Latias, and the held item is nice too.


What does the Enigma Stone do?

Bring it to Steven in the museum in Pewter City in Kanto and you'll be able to fight Latios/Latias (whichever one isn't wandering around in your version).

[Bricker]

Bring it to Steven in the museum in Pewter City in Kanto and you'll be able to fight Latios/Latias (whichever one isn't wandering around in your version).

Also at some point in the process you need to visit a green guy in a Pokemart. More details tonight if needed...

[MeDrewNotYou]

Bring it to Steven in the museum in Pewter City in Kanto and you'll be able to fight Latios/Latias (whichever one isn't wandering around in your version).

Also at some point in the process you need to visit a green guy in a Pokemart. More details tonight if needed...

1.) Go to the Mystery Gift screen on the main menu
2.) Connect to Nintendo WiFi, download gift
3.) Receive stone from green deliveryman in Pokemart (as opposed to the red ones which give you the stuff your mom sends you)
4.) Go to Pewter City, etc.

After picking up the stone and saving, you should probably reset the DS, go back to the Mystery Gift screen, and delete the info card. You can only hold 3 cards at once and downloading a gift adds a card. The cards are pretty useless, only telling you about the event/gift and when it was downloaded.

Something I'm not certain of that BrickJr may know- Do you need to have already caught Latias/Latios for the event to occur? Or can it be still wandering about while you catch its partner? I'd already caught the first one before I started, so I couldn't say.

[CandidGamera]

I seee. I'll have to grab a couple of those this evening.

[Bricker]

Something I'm not certain of that BrickJr may know- Do you need to have already caught Latias/Latios for the event to occur? Or can it be still wandering about while you catch its partner? I'd already caught the first one before I started, so I couldn't say.

He says:

1. It's very hot here.
2. The mosquitoes are biting.
3. He's nonetheless having a great time.
4. You can get the Mystery Gift any time, but you can't get the delivery from the green guy in the Pokemart unless you have defeated the Elite Four and gotten the National Pokedex. You don't need to have caught the other Latios/Latias.
5. After you take the Enigma Stone to the museum and the researcher sees it, it vanishes and you get a "Soul Dew" added to your items.
6. The "Soul Dew" is then given to Latias or Latios to hold. When they hold it, it ups both their Special Attack and Special Defense by 1.
7. That's such a devastating benefit that most tournaments and all the WiFi Battle Frontier rooms ban the use of a Soul Dew.
8. You can have more than one Soul Dew, but you can't get the Enigma Stone more than once per game.

[CandidGamera]

4. You can get the Mystery Gift any time, but you can't get the delivery from the green guy in the Pokemart unless you have defeated the Elite Four and gotten the National Pokedex. You don't need to have caught the other Latios/Latias.


Aruh? I got it on HeartGold and SoulSilver, including the delivery, with just the normal Pokedex - I don't even have a Gym Badge in either game yet.

[Bricker]

4. You can get the Mystery Gift any time, but you can't get the delivery from the green guy in the Pokemart unless you have defeated the Elite Four and gotten the National Pokedex. You don't need to have caught the other Latios/Latias.


Aruh? I got it on HeartGold and SoulSilver, including the delivery, with just the normal Pokedex - I don't even have a Gym Badge in either game yet.

Oh. Well, beats me. I can check with the expert tonight...

[Trion]

I have a problem and I hope someone can tell me what's going on.

I had arranged a trade with someone via wi-fi. Went in and no one was there. After a while I disconnected and checked that I had typed the friend code correctly. Strangely, the person's name was there, but no friend code was listed. I deleted the person and re-entered the name and friend code and went back onto wi-fi. No one there again and again when I get out, the name is listed and the code is gone.

My other codes haven't changed and looks fine. I can access data via the global trade fine (though I haven't done an actual trade).

Anybody know what's going on?

[Trion]

You guys can go ahead and ignore that up there. Everything's sorted.

[Bricker]

Aruh? I got it on HeartGold and SoulSilver, including the delivery, with just the normal Pokedex - I don't even have a Gym Badge in either game yet.

Oh. Well, beats me. I can check with the expert tonight...

He repeats that as far as he knows, you can't even get the Enigma Stone from the delivery man unless you have the Elite Four defeated. But he points out that since you need to deliver it to the museum in Pewter City, even if you have the Enigma Stone as a key item, you can't do anything with it until you beat the Elite Four... because if you don't beat the Elite Four you can't get to Kanto.

[CandidGamera]

Well, I've got two of them on badge-free characters, so maybe I'm just special.

Finished the Elite Four and got the National Pokedex in Platinum this weekend. Woo!

[MeDrewNotYou]

Well, I've got two of them on badge-free characters, so maybe I'm just special.

Finished the Elite Four and got the National Pokedex in Platinum this weekend. Woo!

Congrats! If you're looking for a good spot for levelling post-Elite Four, I like Route 229 just north of Resort Area. Plenty of lvl 50ish Pokemon with good xp; lots of them are Grass or Bug, so this is especially good for Flying and Fire, but most types should be able to get by. The nearby lake in Resort Area is great for fishing up Gyarados, while surfing has tons of high-level Golduck.

[CandidGamera]

Well, I've got two of them on badge-free characters, so maybe I'm just special.

Finished the Elite Four and got the National Pokedex in Platinum this weekend. Woo!

Congrats! If you're looking for a good spot for levelling post-Elite Four, I like Route 229 just north of Resort Area. Plenty of lvl 50ish Pokemon with good xp; lots of them are Grass or Bug, so this is especially good for Flying and Fire, but most types should be able to get by. The nearby lake in Resort Area is great for fishing up Gyarados, while surfing has tons of high-level Golduck.

I'd been working near Canalave City for a while Everything had a Dark or Grass vulnerability, so my Carnivine was able to clean up. I was thinking the water north of Sunyshore next - haven't trekked out to the Resort Area yet.

Right now, I'm trying to catch the Pokemon that I don't have that appear on honey trees and at the Pokemon Mansion. Anyone know which trees are 'lucky' trees? I still need Heracross and Munchlax.

[Bricker]

Right now, I'm trying to catch the Pokemon that I don't have that appear on honey trees and at the Pokemon Mansion. Anyone know which trees are 'lucky' trees? I still need Heracross and Munchlax.

Bricker Jr says: instead of catching Munchlax at a honey tree, breed Snorlax while holding a Full Incense (which can be found in Veilstone City).

[CandidGamera]

Right now, I'm trying to catch the Pokemon that I don't have that appear on honey trees and at the Pokemon Mansion. Anyone know which trees are 'lucky' trees? I still need Heracross and Munchlax.

Bricker Jr says: instead of catching Munchlax at a honey tree, breed Snorlax while holding a Full Incense (which can be found in Veilstone City).

But I don't have a Snorlax. And I still need Heracross.

[Trion]

Bricker Jr says: instead of catching Munchlax at a honey tree, breed Snorlax while holding a Full Incense (which can be found in Veilstone City).

But I don't have a Snorlax. And I still need Heracross.

From what I can tell, Munchlax trees (4 of them) are determined at the beginning of the game and will be different for each player. And even then there's only like a 2% chance that one of those trees will attract a Munchlax.

Unless I've got something wrong. Can anyone confirm? Or perhaps provide better news?

[CandidGamera]

But I don't have a Snorlax. And I still need Heracross.

From what I can tell, Munchlax trees (4 of them) are determined at the beginning of the game and will be different for each player. And even then there's only like a 2% chance that one of those trees will attract a Munchlax.

Unless I've got something wrong. Can anyone confirm? Or perhaps provide better news?

Oh, man, that's brutal. Well, maybe I can snag one in one of the GBA games and bring it over.

[RandMcnally]

Bumping this thread to let everyone know that you can get a shiny Entei pokemon at gamestop stores from yesterday until the 23rd of January.

[CandidGamera]

Indeed. They already did Shiny Raikou; Starting on the 31st, Shiny Suicune will be available. and in the week before Black and White are released, there are rumors that Celebi will be available!

Less than 30 Pokemon left to fill out my Pokedex in Platinum..

[Trion]

Indeed. They already did Shiny Raikou; Starting on the 31st, Shiny Suicune will be available. and in the week before Black and White are released, there are rumors that Celebi will be available!

Yes, I think Celebi is available from Feb 27 to March 7. The Raikou, Entei and Suicune are supposed to unlock another legendery when transferred to Black and White.

Less than 30 Pokemon left to fill out my Pokedex in Platinum..

Meanwhile, my copy of Diamond is completely missing - I think it was stolen. I had to start over in SoulSilver.

At least I can look forward to White coming out a week before PAX East. :)

[Bricker]

Yes, I think Celebi is available from Feb 27 to March 7. The Raikou, Entei and Suicune are supposed to unlock another legendery when transferred to Black and White.


Bricker Jr reports: yes, trading any of the three shiny legendary beasts into Black or White unlocks an event at the Lost Forest that allows you to capture Zoroark, the Illusion Fox Pokemon. There is only one of these per game.


Meanwhile, my copy of Diamond is completely missing - I think it was stolen. I had to start over in SoulSilver.


Bricker Jr also lost his copy of Diamond. This was bad, because his starter, a Torterra, was very carefully trained up and had great IV's to start. He must have had better than 400 hours of gameplay invested; all lost when the game was gone.

In the IT world, we mitigate that kind of risk by doing data backups.

So for his Platinum game and his HeartGold game, I've been using a device to copy his save files periodically to my computer. If he loses his game cart again, he won't lose everything.

[Trion]

Bricker Jr also lost his copy of Diamond. This was bad, because his starter, a Torterra, was very carefully trained up and had great IV's to start. He must have had better than 400 hours of gameplay invested; all lost when the game was gone.

In the IT world, we mitigate that kind of risk by doing data backups.

So for his Platinum game and his HeartGold game, I've been using a device to copy his save files periodically to my computer. If he loses his game cart again, he won't lose everything.

Yeah, I'm aware of the copy devices but I haven't sprung for one yet. I probably should.

[Bricker]

Yeah, I'm aware of the copy devices but I haven't sprung for one yet. I probably should.

I'm very glad I did. My son is a brave trooper kinda kid, but when he realized he had lost his game, he was inconsolate for a good little while. Apparently it takes quite a bit of effort to do EV training, especially if you don't have a "Poke Virus," which his new game did not.

[ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness]

If you missed the Gamestop distribution of the Shiny Raikou, Entei, and Suicune, you can still get them via Wifi. This is another European distribution that works in North America with North American copies of the games.
Raikou is done, but Entei is available through today (Sunday 2/20) and Suicune becomes available tomorrow (Monday 2/21).

I found this out yesterday at the Black and White mall tour. While we were downloading the Celebi, my youngest discovered he hadn't saved Entei or Suicune in Soul Silver (he had them in Pearl and Platinum). Our guess is he deleted the Wonder Cards before he picked up the pokemon at the PokeMart. Pearl prevents you from doing this, but experiments show Soul Silver does not.

The Celebi unlocks an area in Heart Gold/Soul Silver which gives some Team Rocket backstory in the cutscenes. It will also unlock Zorua in Black & White.

The Black and White demo is short, about 5 minutes to play through. You get to battle 2 rivals, one wild pokemon (no pokeballs in your bag so you can't catch anything), and come face to face with Zekrom or Rashiram in a cut scene. You get to see Zorua in action as it's part of your party.

[CandidGamera]

Sweet. I was worried the Gamestop distro for Celebi had started earlier than I expected, but I see the mall tour one is actually distinct from the Gamestop one. The Gamestop one starts today, and runs through the release of B&W.