All religious people should be executed

[mutantmoose]

The way I'm thinking this is that all of the religious people in the world should be executed. Now I'm aware that there are a lot of religious people in the world - probably the majority. So if the population of the world is 6 billion I would estimate that about maybe 5 billion of them have some sort of religious belief.

So they would be the ones for the chop.

I've anticipated that there may be some problems with my strategy. For one thing - what about a remote tribe in say South America or Africa where everybody holds unquestioningly to shamanic or animalistic beliefs? I posit that in most of these tribes there will be one person who says "Hmm I dunno about all this stuff. We pray that we'll kill a big animal today and some days we do and some days we don't - just seems random to me"

Now he/she wouldn't be an atheist according to strict western definitions but I would say - him, we allow to live. The rest of the tribe are executed.

Admittedly the population of the world would be thinned out dramatically. There would be far fewer people in the world, only 1 billion, but what a billion - quality not quantity. We can finally proceed without having to accede to the insane wishes of religious groups all the time.

I acknowledge that what I'm proposing is a fairly extreme measure and not without it's difficulties but imagine what the world would be like after. We may still have political differences but at least the supernatural is out of the equation.

[friedo]

It worked out pretty well for Rousseau.

[Chimera]

Only Monsters espouse ideals such as this.

[Boyo Jim]

1. There are not enough atheists to carry out the executions.

2. One would have to have a lot of faith to be convinced that this is the right thing to do. Athiests are notoriously short on faith.

3. I'm guessing there is a very high correlation among political and religious conservatives and gun owners. Many of them actually mean it when they say, "You can take my gun out of my cold dead hands." I am not interested in a lifetime of firefights, nor getting rounded up myself and put up against the wall when these folks get organized.

So, no.

Better off convincing them that God wants them to die and join him in paradise. How would one go about removing the stigma from suicide?

[mutantmoose]

I dislike the intermediate stage as much as you - I'm just holding on to the end result.

Just need to work out the method. Bullet to the head sounds good. Although we'd need 5 billion bullets hmm

[Siam Sam]

"All religious people should be executed"

I'm in!

[Peremensoe]

1. There are not enough atheists to carry out the executions.

And some of them believe in human rights, and will be fighting with the religious side.

[NinetyWt]

4. There won't be enough atheists to bury/dispose of the dead.

[Boyo Jim]

... Although we'd need 5 billion bullets hmm

I can probably round up 5 billion bullets from a guy down the street, except that he would be on the kill list. So I better not tell him that part.

[Siam Sam]

If you used a high-enough power rifle, you could line them up three deep or so and use one bullet. This would significantly cut the number of bullets needed.

[Boyo Jim]

You'd need a team of atheist professional wrestlers to keep them in line, or atheist medical teams to sedate them. I do recall there have been some problems getting trained medical prople involved in executions.

[Siam Sam]

You'd need a team of atheist professional wrestlers to keep them in line, or atheist medical teams to sedate them. I do recall there have been some problems getting trained medical prople involved in executions.

No way! The Nazis sometimes used this method. Worked well. Nothing like German efficiency.

[Rushgeekgirl]

I think anyone who hasn't been saved by the Blood of the Lamb should be executed. Then the world would be just perfect!

[samclem]

Moderator Note.

I've moved this from In My Humble Opinion to Great Debates. I don't think it yet rises to the level of a Pit thread, but it certainly invokes more bile than is generally allowed for IMHO.

samclem Moderator, GQ, IMHO.

[Boyo Jim]

Ok, put together the most ruthlessly efficient army in the history of the world, and let's have a go at it!

And it would be oddly appropriate, as this army will certainly out-Nazi the Nazis.

[Laudenum]

While I'm an Athiest myself, I would hate to live in a world ruled by rabid Athiests, and where religion is banned.

[Boyo Jim]

I think anyone who hasn't been saved by the Blood of the Lamb should be executed. Then the world would be just perfect!

All you gotta do is slaughter a farm animal to live? That's one hell of a loophole.

[Boyo Jim]

While I'm an Athiest myself, I would hate to live in a world ruled by rabid Athiests, and where religion is banned.

Religion is not banned!! You are just executed if you practice it. That is totally different.

[Siam Sam]

While I'm an Athiest myself, I would hate to live in a world ruled by rabid Athiests, and where religion is banned.

Burn him! He's a witch!

[Der Trihs]

4. There won't be enough atheists to bury/dispose of the dead.

You'd need a team of atheist professional wrestlers to keep them in line, or atheist medical teams to sedate them. I do recall there have been some problems getting trained medical people involved in executions.Given that numbers and disposing of the bodies are a problem; the solution is obvious: zombies! Kill your first batch of believers, then raise them up as zombies. Use half of them to hold your next targets in place, and arm the other half of your zombie force and have them perform the executions. Repeat as necessary, your force expanding exponentially until all of Earth is zombiefied except for the atheists. Well, OK let's be generous and let the agnostics live too.

You'll want to keep some herds of believers around for a while though, as brain-fodder for the zombies. Logistics you know.

[mutantmoose]

While I'm an Athiest myself, I would hate to live in a world ruled by rabid Athiests, and where religion is banned.

That's the whole point - it's not banned. The only people left alive would be people who don't believe it anyway. So it would just neatly remove the problem without all that messy business of banning ideas.

[Bryan Ekers]

Five billion throats can be cut in one night - by a really quickly running man.

[Boyo Jim]

Replace christians with zombies?? Pot, meet kettle.

[Trepa Mayfield]

But then how do you deal with 5 billion zombies?

[pseudotriton ruber ruber]

May we eat them?

[Siam Sam]

Five billion throats can be cut in one night - by a really quickly running man.

Santa Claus would be a good consultant on something like this. He manages to creep into everyone's home undetected in a single night.

[Thudlow Boink]

Why stop at religion—why not execute everyone who believes anything you don't agree with?

[Der Trihs]

But then how do you deal with 5 billion zombies?
Have them fight each other in gladiator contests?

[Marley23]

This is very redundant with mutantmoose's current anti-religion thread in GD, but rather than lock it I'm sending it to the Pit.

[Blut Aus Nord]

Resident Evil: Religion

Take Bible?

Yes
No

[mutantmoose]

Why stop at religion—why not execute everyone who believes anything you don't agree with?

Because we need a certain number of people to procreate to ensure the survival of the species. First against the wall are the ones we can most do without - worry about the rest later.

[Oakminster]

This is very redundant with mutantmoose's current anti-religion thread in GD, but rather than lock it I'm sending it to the Pit.



Thank you, Marley.

mutantmoose, kindly consider yourself insulted in the most vulgar fashion you can imagine.

[Marley23]

mutantmoose, kindly consider yourself insulted in the most vulgar fashion you can imagine.
"You are a religious person?"

[Dostoyevsky]

We may still have political differences but at least the supernatural is out of the equation.

No, it's not. You can kill all mathematicians but that doesn't eliminate the concept of math. Likewise the idea of religion would still exist and someone would eventually revive it.

There would be far fewer people in the world, only 1 billion, but what a billion - quality not quantity.

You'd have neither.


Better off convincing them that God wants them to die and join him in paradise. How would one go about removing the stigma from suicide?

Actually, the more democratic method would be for atheists to commit suicide considering the disproportionate ratio of believer to nonbeliever. And from a propertarian's standpoint, it seems theists in some form were here first so homestead another planet.

I think the OP just created a new term, internet shitting.

[Boyo Jim]

Why stop at religion—why not execute everyone who believes anything you don't agree with?

Than who am I gonna fuck?

[Oakminster]

"You are a religious person?"

No, but I live in the buckle of the Bible belt. Many of my family members, friends, coworkers, and frankly, damn near everyone else in this part of the country is religious to some degree. I object rather strongly to the notion that they should be killed, or are otherwise poor company, because they are religious.

[Dostoyevsky]

Than who am I gonna fuck?

Evidently the same people you aren't now, Mr. The-World-As-I-Know-It-Sucks.

[Boyo Jim]

...Actually, the more democratic method would be for atheists to commit suicide considering the disproportionate ratio of believer to nonbeliever. And from a propertarian's standpoint, it seems theists in some form were here first so homestead another planet...

There is nothing more democratic than volunteerism. Voluntary suicide by True Believers is infinitely preferable than to mass murder them, don't you think?

[BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed]

Than who am I gonna fuck?

I think you win.

[Boyo Jim]

Jeez, maybe we oughta just kill everyone with no sense of humor. There'd be a lot of overlap.

[Dostoyevsky]

There is nothing more democratic than volunteerism.

The opposite is true, which is why you almost never meet a Libertarian fond of democracy. Democracy is about mandates pertaining to minorities. In this case, that would be you. And me.

[Nature's Call]

Fruitless attempt at logic I know:

1) Religion is evil. Look at the evil perpetrated in the name of religion.
2) Let's kill'em all and let non-god sort it out
3) How is 2) not evil?

mutantmoose (and likeminded) if ever, as an atheist, you posit in a discussion that all atrocities have been committed in the name of religion - if ever you cringe when someone suggests that Hitler was an atheist as a suggestion to his motives - reflect on what you are suggesting.

To paraphrase the great prophet Bon Jovi: you give atheism a bad name. This atheist condemns such thoughts as barbaric, inhuman, and stupid beyond belief.

[Der Trihs]

Than who am I gonna fuck?The better preserved zombies?

[Boyo Jim]

[QUOTE=Dostoyevsky;12566157]The opposite is true, which is why you almost never meet a Libertarian fond of democracy. Democracy is about mandates pertaining to minorities...QUOTE]

WTF does this mean?

Are you saying democracy is about limits to what can be done to or against minorities? Democracy is not at all about that. Limits are put in place to prevent an absolute democracy, which may tend to ignore or eliminate the rights of monorities.

But perhaps I am misunderstanding your meaning.

[Dostoyevsky]

Limits are put in place to prevent an absolute democracy, which may tend to ignore or eliminate the rights of monorities.

Agreed. Which is why this:

There is nothing more democratic than volunteerism.

is wrong. From a dissenting minority's viewpoint there's nothing more antithetical to volunteerism than democracy.

[Chief Pedant]

The problem with religion is that, although much evil has been done in its name, even more would be done in a world without the modifying influence of religion.

Indeed, the term "evil" can be said to have achieved meaning because of religion. Without the (admittedly arbitrary) standard established by religion, there is no "evil."

A world without religion is not a paradise of secular humanists living gently together. It's a dog-eat-dog world of moral-less strong overpowering the weak and consuming as their power allows.

Adhering to a basic notion of Right and Wrong is what keeps us from being like the other animals; it is the only check on our natural aggression and narcissism. I should like to see just such a world as you propose so that I could enjoy the surprise on the part of those smug enough to paint all religion as net bad.

[The Flying Dutchman]

"All religious people should be executed"

I'm in!

We can start with the black ones.

[El_Kabong]

While I'm an Athiest myself, I would hate to live in a world ruled by rabid Athiests, and where religion is banned.

As I'm an Atheist myself, I too would hate to live in a world ruled by rabid Athiests, so I say let's kill them off along with the religious nutters.

Admittedly the population of the world would be thinned out dramatically. There would be far fewer people in the world, only 1 billion, but what a billion - quality not quantity.

I bet the lines at the DMV would be just as long after, though.

[rolandgunslinger]

We can start with the black ones.

Also the children. Can't have them little religious brats running around. Grandmothers also.

[Bryan Ekers]

Admittedly the population of the world would be thinned out dramatically.

You saying religious people are fat?

[Der Trihs]

You saying religious people are fat?It's all that baby eating. I mean, just look at how pudgy babies are, that's gotta be fattening.

[Chimera]

If we really want a better world, let's kill everyone who believes that we should kill people who think differently than us. Because they're the monsters. The rest of us can live much better lives without murderous ideologues running around.

[Fear Itself]

4. There won't be enough atheists to bury/dispose of the dead.Buzzards got to eat, same as worms.

[Boyo Jim]

Buzzards got to eat, same as worms.

Finally, a voice of sanity and reason.

[The Understander]

We can start with the black ones.

You can try. Last I checked, melanin deficiency does not stop bullets.

[SoulFrost]

Can't do it. Never work.

If you kill all the religious people, who's gonna preach at all those funerals?

[Der Trihs]

Can't do it. Never work.

If you kill all the religious people, who's gonna preach at all those funerals?Zombie preachers.

There are few problems that can't be solved with a deft application of zombies.

[FloatyGimpy]

"You are a religious person?"


No, but I live in the buckle of the Bible belt. Many of my family members, friends, coworkers, and frankly, damn near everyone else in this part of the country is religious to some degree. I object rather strongly to the notion that they should be killed, or are otherwise poor company, because they are religious.


I think Marley was saying that you can insult him by calling him a religious person.

[Gukumatz]

Zombie preachers.

There are few problems that can't be solved with a deft application of zombies.

This is going in my signature. I love it. :p

[Oakminster]

I think Marley was saying that you can insult him by calling him a religious person.

Oh. That would explain that whooshing sound, then. :o

[SoulFrost]

Zombie preachers.

There are few problems that can't be solved with a deft application of zombies.

DRAT! Foiled again by the Zombie Solution!

[Ají de Gallina]

My only regret at being killed in the name of Christ would be that I wouldn't be able to watch the endless wars when atheists start having fights about hard atheist / soft atheist / agnostic / ignostic / whatever. The level of hatred would make anything we religious guys may have done look like a wedgie and the inquisition like detention.
Once you'd defeated the "common enemy" of irrationality, purity would be required and enforced brutally.

[njtt]

Zombie preachers.

There are few problems that can't be solved with a deft application of zombies.

Sorry, Der Trihs, but Voodoo is a religion. Anyone who can (or believes they can) create zombies is for the chop too.

[Boyo Jim]

Ok, but we kill them after they create the zombies.

[suranyi]

I can't believe this is serious.

But just in case: I'm not religious at all. But I have relatives and friends who are. I have an aunt who is very religious, who is almost like a second mother to me. I would not want her executed. And she's just one of quite a few that I can think of.

[Autolycus]

But what if the zombies start their own religion? I mean they already have Jesus.

[missred]

At least it would decimate the prison population.

[ivan astikov]

The OP should have titled the thread All Religious People Should Be Sent To The Happy Place. S/He'd have got a far better reception.

[Zoe]

I saw MutantMoose saying grace before a meal! And Boyo Jim was praying in the garden. I saw him on his knees!

I saw Satan fall like lightening!

[Oldeb]

Santa Claus would be a good consultant on something like this. He manages to creep into everyone's home undetected in a single night.

I think it's pretty clear on which side of the line Saint Nicholas would fall. You'd clearly need to get Robot Santa Claus's help. And the only think trying to get that will lead to is coal shoved so far up your stocking you'll be coughing up diamonds.

[Rune]

Don't stop short before the job is done. We also need to exterminate the vermin queens and the coons and the reds and the jews and the swedes and the niggers and the spicks and many many others. So much work to be done.

[ivan astikov]

You forgot retards, you retard.






ps. That is a joke. I don't really think you are a retard, Rune.

[Der Trihs]

Sorry, Der Trihs, but Voodoo is a religion. Anyone who can (or believes they can) create zombies is for the chop too.Sure. That's why you force them to zombify each other first. Then you have zombie making zombies.

But what if the zombies start their own religion? I mean they already have Jesus.Don't be too sure; as far as I know, the question of "Jesus: Zombie or vampire?" is still up in the air.

[SoulFrost]

Don't stop short before the job is done. We also need to exterminate the vermin queens and the coons and the reds and the jews and the swedes and the niggers and the spicks and many many others. So much work to be done.

I thought the niggers were the coons.

So who're the coons? Belgians?

[Gustav]

Meh, sounds like you guys need to stop being such bleeding heart crybabies. I for one endorse this OP 100%. Sometimes a we have to make a few sacrifices in the name of progress.

[gonzomax]

1. There are not enough atheists to carry out the executions.

2. One would have to have a lot of faith to be convinced that this is the right thing to do. Athiests are notoriously short on faith.

3. I'm guessing there is a very high correlation among political and religious conservatives and gun owners. Many of them actually mean it when they say, "You can take my gun out of my cold dead hands." I am not interested in a lifetime of firefights, nor getting rounded up myself and put up against the wall when these folks get organized.

So, no.

Better off convincing them that God wants them to die and join him in paradise. How would one go about removing the stigma from suicide?

It is obvious that you can get a person to do anything you want if you pay them enough money. Plenty of religious people have shown they have no problem killing.

[Fear Itself]

Kill 'em all, and let god sort them out.

[campp]

How about instead of killing them all, why don't we just sterilize them? Social engineering without the stigma of actual killing.

[Boyo Jim]

WAY easier and faster to kill people than sterilize them.

[mutantmoose]

I can't believe this is serious.

But just in case: I'm not religious at all. But I have relatives and friends who are. I have an aunt who is very religious, who is almost like a second mother to me. I would not want her executed. And she's just one of quite a few that I can think of.

We're talking about executing 5 billion people. We're all going to lose people close to us in this war soldier.

[ivan astikov]

Some people are just plain selfish.

[Polycarp]

Well, over on Christian Forums I keep being told that the Golden Rule is the product of "secular humanism."* So, I guess it calls for me to agree to your propostion, mutuantmoose.

But I should extend you the proper courtesies, so you go first. :)




* Yeah, I thought the same thing. Must be we have a bad translation, eh?

[Boyo Jim]

I wish I had a dime for every time someone whines, "Please don't kill my family".

[Gustav]

Look, if it makes you feel better this is all part of God's grand design.

If he really didn't want auntie dead he would have made her an atheist.

[Boyo Jim]

Look, if it makes you feel better this is all part of God's grand design.

If he really didn't want auntie dead he would have made her an atheist.

I was thinking just the opposite. It's good evidence there is no god if there's no intervention to save any believers.

[ivan astikov]

Great idea. We can kill them one by one until he shows himself!

[Sorrel]

Re: disposal of bodies. There will be a hell of a lot of books to burn, so I suggest a bonfire, chuck the bodies on top and I'll bring the marshmallows.

Erm, will words like "hell" be permitted in the new dictatorship?

[Rushgeekgirl]

My only regret at being killed in the name of Christ would be that I wouldn't be able to watch the endless wars when atheists start having fights about hard atheist / soft atheist / agnostic / ignostic / whatever. The level of hatred would make anything we religious guys may have done look like a wedgie and the inquisition like detention.
Once you'd defeated the "common enemy" of irrationality, purity would be required and enforced brutally.

That's right, and history shows the majority of the slaughters in the world were between atheists arguing about whether it's right to be a hard or soft atheist.
Yep.

[Rushgeekgirl]

We're talking about executing 5 billion people. We're all going to lose people close to us in this war soldier.

I've been itching for a fresh start anyway.

[Polycarp]

DRAT! Foiled again by the Zombie Solution!

Okay, then who's going to write all the brainless religious rants?

[Alessan]

That's right, and history shows the majority of the slaughters in the world were between atheists arguing about whether it's right to be a hard or soft atheist.
Yep.

The majority of the slaughters in the world were between people. The reasons for the slaughters were always just excuses - people will always find reasons to kill each other.

[SoulFrost]

Okay, then who's going to write all the brainless religious rants?

The ZCLU. Zombies don't give up their freedom of expression just because they leave the boneyard.

[Rushgeekgirl]

The majority of the slaughters in the world were between people. The reasons for the slaughters were always just excuses - people will always find reasons to kill each other.

Yeah I've heard that many times but somehow I just can't buy it. Whether or not religion is a convenient excuse doesn't change the fact that people were, and are still killed for not choosing the right one at the right time, or failing to live up to the conditions of the one they adhere to. It's just one of the many harmful ideologies out there. I wouldn't discount the impact just because it's a symptom and not the disease itself.

[Indistinguishable]

Might I suggest that the slaughter of 5 billion people is such a uniquely catastrophic event that the ensuing psychological fallout could easily push large numbers of the survivors into religious ways of reflecting upon the atrocity? I mean, a thing like that... it changes people, you know?

[Happy Poster]

I don't see why OP needs to kill all the religious people, if this were a genuine aim. He could just sterlise everyone and wait things out. Why the bloodlust?

[Indistinguishable]

Religion isn't genetic, though. Too many people running around spreading their ideas...

[Happy Poster]

Some very large concentration camp then. Greenland?

[Gustav]

Might I suggest that the slaughter of 5 billion people is such a uniquely catastrophic event that the ensuing psychological fallout could easily push large numbers of the survivors into religious ways of reflecting upon the atrocity? I mean, a thing like that... it changes people, you know?

So... 5.5 billion?

[Attack from the 3rd dimension]

Great idea. We can kill them one by one until he shows himself!

And then Der Trihs will....well, you know what happens then.

[akennett]

Executing them may be a little overboard. The religious should just be locked away in mental hospitals until they are cured of their delusions.

[Gagundathar]

Don't stop short before the job is done. We also need to exterminate the vermin queens and the coons and the reds and the jews and the swedes and the niggers and the spicks and many many others. So much work to be done.

The Swedes?
Really?
WTF?
:dubious:

[Indistinguishable]

Yeah, I was with you up until that part.

[Der Trihs]

Great idea. We can kill them one by one until he shows himself!
And then Der Trihs will....well, you know what happens then.I see my shadow and go back into my burrow for a few more weeks?

[Kimstu]

The Swedes?
Really?
WTF?

IIRC, Rune is Danish. The Danes and the Swedes have a long-running feud, and if you want to know why you'll have to ask a Dane. It's a Scandinavian thing.

[DocCathode]

I volunteer to be executed.

I choose death by snoo snoo.

The execution squad will consist of Shakira, Grace Jones, Salma Hayek, Kylie Minogue, Jennifer Tilly, and Bjork.

I will skip the last meal.

[MOIDALIZE]

There are a whole lot of people in this thread clearing their stones of leaves.

[Ann Onimous]

I really wish I hadn't looked in this thread. I don't want to see all Atheists executed: that would fall along the lines of "Thou Shalt Not Kill." Plus, Atheists are cool. Why the hatred for us?

Edited to add: It really hurts to know that there are people out there who would want to eliminate my entire family, including my children. Especially when we haven't done anything to you.

[Attack from the 3rd dimension]

There are a whole lot of people in this thread clearing their stones of leaves.

I have no idea what this means. Please explain this saying, so that I may use it in future and confuse others with my enigmatic folk wisdom.

[DocCathode]

Edited to add: It really hurts to know that there are people out there who would want to eliminate my entire family, including my children. Especially when we haven't done anything to you.

Meh, I've been dealing with it since I was six or seven and they first taught us about the Holocaust.

[MOIDALIZE]

I have no idea what this means. Please explain this saying, so that I may use it in future and confuse others with my enigmatic folk wisdom.

It relates to a lyric from a Slipknot song. I meant to imply that there's a lot of crass, nu-metal sentiments being tossed around in this thread.

[Attack from the 3rd dimension]

I still want to know what happens to the agnostics. Do they form an troglodyte underclass? Plus, us Buddhists. Since we're religious but not so concerned with gods, do we go last?*





*cause we're coming back. And we're gonna be pissed. Well, a few of us, anyway, and then the other ones will talk us out of it.

[Indistinguishable]

I really wish I hadn't looked in this thread. I don't want to see all Atheists executed: that would fall along the lines of "Thou Shalt Not Kill." Plus, Atheists are cool. Why the hatred for us?

Edited to add: It really hurts to know that there are people out there who would want to eliminate my entire family, including my children. Especially when we haven't done anything to you.
Either you've made a rather notable misreading of the OP, or this is a sublimely subtle way of giving it its proper response.

[Tethered Kite]

I say kill everybody who wants to kill people!

[MN_Maenad]

Repeat as necessary, your force expanding exponentially until all of Earth is zombiefied except for the atheists. Hm. I guess that would really be the zombie apocalypse, huh?

Seriously, OP, you're an ass and an idiot, sez this atheist.

[Gustav]

Can we at least kill off all the religions that go to heaven when they die? Seems like the moral thing to do, and win/win to boot.

[Ann Onimous]

Either you've made a rather notable misreading of the OP, or this is a sublimely subtle way of giving it its proper response.

Boy, did I ever.

[Anaamika]

I know! We'll ask God to kill all the religious people.

wait...

[Ají de Gallina]

That's right, and history shows the majority of the slaughters in the world were between atheists arguing about whether it's right to be a hard or soft atheist.
Yep.

Since they have never had the chance, saying it has never happended is really stupid.
History shows that the outstanding majority of wars have been about power, territory, power, money, women, spite, etc. with religion sometimes providing a nice marinade.
On the other hand, when an country declares itself atheist, they start killing people left and right in their search for purity.

[Ají de Gallina]

I say kill everybody who wants to kill people!

...and their families too, just in case.

I know! We'll ask God to kill all the religious people.
wait...

That plan is so crazy it might work, despite the logical fallacies involved.

[Chimera]

So what would be the major difference between Atheists killing Religious people and Medieval Catholics killing heretics and Jews? Both are killing people of a different belief only because they disagree with those beliefs and are certain of their own correctness.

[Guinastasia]

Zombie preachers.

There are few problems that can't be solved with a deft application of zombies.

I originally read this as defication of zombies. Do zombies poop?

[mutantmoose]

So what would be the major difference between Atheists killing Religious people and Medieval Catholics killing heretics and Jews? Both are killing people of a different belief only because they disagree with those beliefs and are certain of their own correctness.

Well, speaking for myself, I don't have any beliefs - at least not about things I can't possibly have any knowledge of - like god. So the catholics killing jews and heretics is one bunch of people with a set of irrational beliefs killing another bunch of people with irrational beliefs.

Atheists killing religious people is a bunch of people with no irrational beliefs killing a bunch of people with irrational beliefs. So it's better. You see the difference?

[SoulFrost]

Well, speaking for myself, I don't have any beliefs - at least not about things I can't possibly have any knowledge of - like god. So the catholics killing jews and heretics is one bunch of people with a set of irrational beliefs killing another bunch of people with irrational beliefs.

Atheists killing religious people is a bunch of people with no irrational beliefs killing a bunch of people with irrational beliefs. So it's better. You see the difference?

I don't know. I think the OP is flawed in premise. We should execute everyone who wears a lucky shirt to the golf course or the bowling alley (the more hideous the shirt, the more prolonged the execution....)

[Telcontar]

This thread does wonders for my ignore list.

[Ann Onimous]

Atheists killing religious people is a bunch of people with no irrational beliefs killing a bunch of people with irrational beliefs. So it's better. You see the difference?

Two wrongs do not make a right.

[MsWhatsit]

This thread does wonders for my ignore list.

Belief in wonders, eh? You're going on the list. (The List, that is; not the ignore list. You know what I mean.)

[Der Trihs]

I originally read this as defication of zombies. Do zombies poop?
Well, logically those devoured brains need to come out one end or the other of the zombie sooner or later, or you'd see more fat zombies.

[Thudlow Boink]

Atheists killing religious people is a bunch of people with no irrational beliefs killing a bunch of people with irrational beliefs.I don't believe that.

[Chimera]

Atheists killing religious people is a bunch of people with no irrational beliefs

Cite please. I know plenty of Atheists with irrational beliefs.

I'm sure people of any religion (and I do define Atheism as a religion*) are absolutely certain that their beliefs are entirely rational and it is only the other religions that are completely unfounded.

* I define "Religion" as being; A system of beliefs about the nature of the Universe and Humanity's place in it.

[SoulFrost]

This thread does wonders for my ignore list.

Yeah, I know. Why bother with discussion, debate, and pitting on a message board?

[Der Trihs]

Atheism just means that you lack a particular variety of irrational belief; there are others. For example, believing that it's a good idea to try to exterminate a nuclear armed class of people that outnumbers you by at least 10-to-1.

[Chimera]

Or believing it is a good idea to exterminate people in general.

[mutantmoose]

Well it's an unpleasant task. I never said I'd enjoy it.

I define "Religion" as being; A system of beliefs about the nature of the Universe and Humanity's place in it.

Well I don't have any beliefs about those things. I don't have the faintest idea what the nature of the Universe is or what Humanity's place in it is and neither does anybody else on the planet.

Anybody who thinks they do know is holding an irrational belief.

[Der Trihs]

Or believing it is a good idea to exterminate people in general.Well; exterminating people might or might not be a rational idea. There is such a thing as "rational, but evil".

[ITR champion]

Atheists killing religious people is a bunch of people with no irrational beliefs killing a bunch of people with irrational beliefs. So it's better. You see the difference?
You've got it backwards. Atheists have irrational beliefs, while religious people have rational beliefs.

[Bryan Ekers]

You've got it backwards. Atheists have irrational beliefs, while religious people have rational beliefs.

Live in Opposite World, do you?

[Autolycus]

You've got it backwards. Atheists have irrational beliefs, while religious people have rational beliefs.

Live in Opposite World, do you?

And what if he says no?

[Bryan Ekers]

And what if he says no?

And what if he's actually a runner-up?

[ITR champion]

Live in Opposite World, do you?
I live in the real world, where religious people demonstrate basic common sense while most atheists can be depended on to do stuff that's completely nuts on a regular basis. Like starting this thread, for instance.

[Autolycus]

No, I meant like if he said "No, I don't live in Opposite World," then it could mean that he actually does, because if he lived in such a world then no would mean yes. Or maybe he truly doesn't live in such a world, in which case no means no. Thus asking such a question is futile. And that's only for a negative response. Heaven help you if they answer yes.

Not sure what you meant by runner-up.

[Lobohan]

I live in the real world, where religious people demonstrate basic common sense while most atheists can be depended on to do stuff that's completely nuts on a regular basis. Like starting this thread, for instance.You're the one who believes an invisible, all powerful, father figure who loves you, with no evidence whatsoever.

Atheists aren't necessarily rational. Theists are necessarily irrational. Try to keep that in mind when you post your next bullshit Dawkins thread. :D

[DrDeth]

Where do you dudes get the discount bulk prices on the Purina Troll Chow?

[Bryan Ekers]

Not sure what you meant by runner-up.

Well, as in he's not really a champion...


After his last post, I guess I can confidently disregard anything he says, on any topic. It'll save a little bit of time.

[lurking guest]

Oh, for goodness sake! Who cares what Der Trihs or Polycarp believes?

They are each PASSIONATE and EBULIENT about what they believe. Do YOU care?
P
Neither "Religion" nor "Atheism" has anything WHATEVER to do with a single individual's relationship with ....the Ephemeral, Individual, Close-Held, connection to THEIR INDIVIDUAL fears, hopes, dreams, beliefs, backgrounds....Just what they each want to SHOUT at others.

Poor sods.

They strive to negate one another.

And lose.

You cannot combat individual experience with Science or an Appeal to Intelligence or 'proofs' that convince no one at all.

GOD is [B]real[B] to billions of folks on this planet.

The "First Cause."

Science acknowledges it. And now there is an effening almighty war over what this 'First Cause' is.

In my opinion - 'THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'A GOD' OR 'GODS' AND ANYONE WHO STILL BELIEVES IN THEM IS AN ANTI-INTELLECTUAL DOUCHE WHO HASEN'T BRAINS ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS'....to, "WE HAVE OUR OWN, INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES OF GOD AND KNOW[U] THEM TO BE TRUE!!!!!!

Der Trihs, you fight this.
You blame it all on hallucination and childhood instillation of propaganda and lesser "intelligence" ....and you are WRONG.

There is a 'knowledge of God' that you are unaware of.
That you, in fact, REVEL in being unaware of.

There is perhaps, maybe, outside of the realm of YOUR understanding or experience, folks who have encountered and [U]know to be true things you have never dreamed of.

[Lobohan]

Oh, for goodness sake! Who cares what Der Trihs or Polycarp believes?

They are each PASSIONATE and EBULIENT about what they believe. Do YOU care?
P
Neither "Religion" nor "Atheism" has anything WHATEVER to do with a single individual's relationship with ....the Ephemeral, Individual, Close-Held, connection to THEIR INDIVIDUAL fears, hopes, dreams, beliefs, backgrounds....Just what they each want to SHOUT at others.

Poor sods.

They strive to negate one another.

And lose.

You cannot combat individual experience with Science or an Appeal to Intelligence or 'proofs' that convince no one at all.

GOD is [B]real[B] to billions of folks on this planet.

The "First Cause."

Science acknowledges it. And now there is an effening almighty war over what this 'First Cause' is.

In my opinion - 'THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 'A GOD' OR 'GODS' AND ANYONE WHO STILL BELIEVES IN THEM IS AN ANTI-INTELLECTUAL DOUCHE WHO HASEN'T BRAINS ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THIS'....to, "WE HAVE OUR OWN, INDIVIDUAL EXPERIENCES OF GOD AND KNOW[U] THEM TO BE TRUE!!!!!!

Der Trihs, you fight this.
You blame it all on hallucination and childhood instillation of propaganda and lesser "intelligence" ....and you are WRONG.

There is a 'knowledge of God' that you are unaware of.
That you, in fact, REVEL in being unaware of.

There is perhaps, maybe, outside of the realm of YOUR understanding or experience, folks who have encountered and [U]know to be true things you have never dreamed of.You should close your tags with a forward slash. Unless you want to look silly.

Also, you seem to believe in childish fairy tales. How sad.

[ITR champion]

You're the one who believes an invisible, all powerful, father figure who loves you, with no evidence whatsoever.
I've read ~20 books of evidence for the existence of God, and thousands more are out there. And of course the best evidence is not found in books.

Atheists aren't necessarily rational. Theists are necessarily irrational. Try to keep that in mind when you post your next bullshit Dawkins thread. :D
Say it all you want, but anyone who pays attention to intellectual discourse knows that atheists achieve peaks of craziness that no one else can possibly approach. If someone says to you that all women have penis envy, or that 1-year-olds are mentally equal to adults, or that cause-effect reasoning is a tool used by society to oppress individuals, you know that you're talking to an atheist, because no one else could be nutty enough to believe such things. Only atheists, who are by definition severed from a large part of reality, could take such ideas seriously.

(For the record, those three examples come from Freud, Firestone, and Foucault.)

[Lobohan]

I've read ~20 books of evidence for the existence of God, and thousands more are out there. And of course the best evidence is not found in books.There is no evidence in the books you've read. You are a gullible, stupid sheep that is being told what you want to hear. Sorry.

Say it all you want, but anyone who pays attention to intellectual discourse knows that atheists achieve peaks of craziness that no one else can possibly approach. If someone says to you that all women have penis envy, or that 1-year-olds are mentally equal to adults, or that cause-effect reasoning is a tool used by society to oppress individuals, you know that you're talking to an atheist, because no one else could be nutty enough to believe such things. Only atheists, who are by definition severed from a large part of reality, could take such ideas seriously.

(For the record, those three examples come from Freud, Firestone, and Foucault.)There is no evidence for your God. None. You believe in him as an act of desperate, childish stupidity. You want to live forever. You want to see your dead loved ones again. You are accepting the irrational idea of God because it comforts you. Good for you, but you aren't by any stretch of the imagination choosing it rationally.

[Telcontar]

Yeah, I know. Why bother with discussion, debate, and pitting on a message board?
Frankly, I don't see the difference between mutant's thread and "Hey, lets kill all the n--gers." I see no reason to engage in a dialog with someone that deranged. He should be banned.

[lurking guest]

You should close your tags with a forward slash. Unless you want to look silly.

Also, you seem to believe in childish fairy tales. How sad.

LOBOHAN... {{my friend}} You speak of "...childish fairy tales..." any yet you promote them.

\\\\\\ Are they enough "...forward slash(es)..." for you?

Rot today or tomorrow or a few years from now...what difference does it make?

You are just material 'stuff' with no significance at all...in the long term.

[ITR champion]

There is no evidence in the books you've read.
How can you know that when you don't know what books they are?
You are a gullible, stupid sheep that is being told what you want to hear.
Wow, your brilliant idea of declaring that you're right based only on the fact that you can call everyone who disagree with you stupid is just ... brilliant. I wonder why no one ever came up with that idea before. Now that you've unleashed this stunning, genius strategy, the entire field of logical argumentation will be revolutionized forever. Your name will live forever as generations of students wonder how you developed the intellectual acumen to come up with such a wonderful piece of rhetoric.

Or maybe not.
There is no evidence for your God. None. You believe in him as an act of desperate, childish stupidity. You want to live forever. You want to see your dead loved ones again. You are accepting the irrational idea of God because it comforts you. Good for you, but you aren't by any stretch of the imagination choosing it rationally.
Actually, neither eternal life nor reunion with dead relatives played any role in my conversion from atheism to Christianity. However, since your intellectual framework is apparently so fragile that you can only maintain it by clinging to fictions that you make up, go right ahead. It's no skin off my teeth.

Good night, and God bless.

[Lobohan]

LOBOHAN... {{my friend}} You speak of "...childish fairy tales..." any yet you promote them.

\\\\\\ Are they enough "...forward slash(es)..." for you?

Rot today or tomorrow or a few years from now...what difference does it make?

You are just material 'stuff' with no significance at all...in the long term.Those are backslashes. :D

If we are material and this is the only life, of course you want it to be as long as possible. It's amazing how stupid some theists are.

[Der Trihs]

How can you know that when you don't know what books they are?
Because there's never been any evidence for God for anyone to write down in a book in the first place. We know that you have no evidence for God for the same reason we know you have no evidence for Zeus or Sauron; they are fictional, physically impossible characters.

[Lunchy]

People still believe in 'God'? Is this 1600's? Is all common sense gone? Am I asking too many questions?

[SoulFrost]

Frankly, I don't see the difference between mutant's thread and "Hey, lets kill all the n--gers." I see no reason to engage in a dialog with someone that deranged. He should be banned.

I think that he eventually should be, too, on that basis, as well as on the basis of the ATMB thread showcasing the disingenuous handwaving of someone who was once an interesting poster but who has become a one-trick pony.

For now though, he still has some entertainment value.

[Lobohan]

How can you know that when you don't know what books they are?Because, if there were a book that provided actual evidence for the existence of God, it would be pretty big news.

Wow, your brilliant idea of declaring that you're right based only on the fact that you can call everyone who disagree with you stupid is just ... brilliant. I wonder why no one ever came up with that idea before. Now that you've unleashed this stunning, genius strategy, the entire field of logical argumentation will be revolutionized forever. Your name will live forever as generations of students wonder how you developed the intellectual acumen to come up with such a wonderful piece of rhetoric.I'm not saying I'm particularly smart. I'm saying you're childishly irrational.

Actually, neither eternal life nor reunion with dead relatives played any role in my conversion from atheism to Christianity. However, since your intellectual framework is apparently so fragile that you can only maintain it by clinging to fictions that you make up, go right ahead. It's no skin off my teeth.There is no evidence, so why else do you believe? Why don't you believe in Santa? Why not Vampires? Do you believe in Unicorns? How about Zombies?

Each of those things has just as much evidence as your pathetic father figure in the sky.

Good night, and God bless.Live long and prosper.

[rolandgunslinger]

I think that he eventually should be, too, on that basis, as well as on the basis of the ATMB thread showcasing the disingenuous handwaving of someone who was once an interesting poster but who has become a one-trick pony.

For now though, he still has some entertainment value.

They wont ban him.

[lurking guest]

Because there's never been any evidence for God for anyone to write down in a book in the first place. We know that you have no evidence for God for the same reason we know you have no evidence for Zeus or Sauron; they are fictional, physically impossible characters.

Neener, neener, neeener...."...you have no evidence for Zeus..." so, therefore, you have no evidence for ANY reason that any of the billions of folks who BELIEVE should trust themselves.

Devastating logic.

Polycarp! How many folks are praying for Der Trihs? -AND all others like him - (Don't hang back there in the background!)

STAND UP NOW, Polycarp. (The guy with so much gravitas on "The Dope.")

[rolandgunslinger]

You lose all credibility with the neener neener.

[Lobohan]

Neener, neener, neeener...."...you have no evidence for Zeus..." so, therefore, you have no evidence for ANY reason that any of the billions of folks who BELIEVE should trust themselves.I don't think anyone believes in Zeus anymore. Are you an idiot?

Don't answer that. In any case, religious people believe something factual (that there is a God) with no evidence at all to support it. Do you believe in a country called New Gunterston? There is no evidence for that either.

Devastating logic.Thank you.

Maybe you should go back to lurking you fucking simpleton.

[SoulFrost]

Neener, neener, neeener...."...you have no evidence for Zeus..." so, therefore, you have no evidence for ANY reason that any of the billions of folks who BELIEVE should trust themselves.

Devastating logic.

Polycarp! How many folks are praying for Der Trihs? -AND all others like him - (Don't hang back there in the background!)

STAND UP NOW, Polycarp. (The guy with so much gravitas on "The Dope.")

Dude! Whose dick's up your ass tonight?

[Autolycus]

Hey! Stop arguing and being all nasty. This thread was much better when it was all silly.

[rolandgunslinger]

I drove thru New Gunterston once. Got a ticket for speeding and the police roughed me up pretty good.

[Lobohan]

I drove thru New Gunterston once. Got a ticket for speeding and the police roughed me up pretty good.It's a Godless place, New Gunterston.

[rolandgunslinger]

It's a Godless place, New Gunterston.

But the chicks are hot and the beer is cheap.

[SoulFrost]

Don't answer that. In any case, religious people believe something factual (that there is a God) with no evidence at all to support it. Do you believe in a country called New Gunterston? There is no evidence for that either.

It's not something you could look up in the CIA Fact Book and the Scientific Method doesn't strictly apply to philosophy, but I wouldn't say "no evidence at all". Everybody has reasons that are good to them for believing what they believe, whether it's in Jesus, New Gunterston, alien visitation, or Cecil Adams.

[SoulFrost]

But the chicks are hot and the beer is cheap.

That's not my recollection. The beer was hot and the chicks were cheap.

[lurking guest]

"The beer was hot and the chicks were cheap."

Mmmm....how the feminists must love THAT!

Male dominance.

Let us be kool as they have been.

No commitment.
Just the kool 'thrust' of hooking up.

Woo hoo...(as 'Homer' would say)

SOUL FROST, "...the chicks were cheap..."

DOES that mean it didn't take much to get your penis satisfied?

LOVE how you think of females as "chicks" ....

Yeah, right....and this is SO MUCH BETTER for females...than religious strictions...

IDIOT!!

[rolandgunslinger]

Penis satisfied?

[SoulFrost]

"The beer was hot and the chicks were cheap."

Mmmm....how the feminists must love THAT!

Male dominance.

Let us be kool as they have been.

No commitment.
Just the kool 'thrust' of hooking up.

Woo hoo...(as 'Homer' would say)

SOUL FROST, "...the chicks were cheap..."

DOES that mean it didn't take much to get your penis satisfied?

LOVE how you think of females as "chicks" ....

Yeah, right....and this is SO MUCH BETTER for females...than religious strictions...

IDIOT!!

No, silly!

It means that when I dug up your mama and fucked her stinking corpse, she zombie-groaned to me, "Braaaaaiiiinnnnsss!" But after that, she told me that she's so very sorry that she's burning in hell right now for inflicting your miserable ass on the world.

[Bryan Ekers]

Neener, neener, neeener...."...you have no evidence for Zeus..." so, therefore, you have no evidence for ANY reason that any of the billions of folks who BELIEVE should trust themselves.

You're stupid, so this won't matter to you, but I'd like to point out that circa 400 BCE, there were millions of people in Greece and Italy who sincerely believed in Zeus (or the Roman equivalent, Jupiter).

Were they all wrong to not believe in the monotheistic God? Prove it.

[Justin_Bailey]

Frankly, I don't see the difference between mutant's thread and "Hey, lets kill all the n--gers." I see no reason to engage in a dialog with someone that deranged. He should be banned.

Fucking +1. The OP is sick and his continued seriousness with desiring a massacre of 5 billion+ people should get him the boot.

This is hate speech, plain and simple.

[Telcontar]

They wont ban him.

I agree and, for that, I blame many of the participants in this thread. The appropriate reaction to the OP is disgust. Why are we laughing at a proposal for the murder of billions of people?

[The Flying Dutchman]

Fucking +1. The OP is sick and his continued seriousness with desiring a massacre of 5 billion+ people should get him the boot.

This is hate speech, plain and simple.

You really think the OP is serious ? This thread is simply trolling to upset the religious minority on this board.

[Boyo Jim]

I wonder what history would have been if Hitler had the Internet?

He posts an idea in GD, "Hey, why don't we kill all the Jews?". 1/3 of the responders get all indignant and trash the guy for the mere suggestion, another third would explain why it's simply not practical, and the final third would suggest ways to do it best, or most amusingly.

Jeez, lighten up, people!

[Bryan Ekers]

I agree and, for that, I blame many of the participants in this thread.

Well, cry us a river and then try to walk on it, bub.

[Justin_Bailey]

You really think the OP is serious ? This thread is simply trolling to upset the religious minority on this board.

No I don't think he's serious (or else he would started his one man extermination squad already), but posting this kind of drivel as if he is serious and keeping up the charade through multiple pages crosses the "Don't be a jerk" line in my book.

[Shmendrik]

We can start with the black ones.

I dunno about that. Black people are kind of tough, even the religious ones.

Hey, here's an idea! Why don't we start with the Jews?

[ivan astikov]

No, let's save them for last.

[akennett]

He posts an idea in GD, "Hey, why don't we kill all the Jews?"...the final third would suggest ways to do it best, or most amusingly.

Drown them in rendered pork fat?

[Lobohan]

It's not something you could look up in the CIA Fact Book and the Scientific Method doesn't strictly apply to philosophy, but I wouldn't say "no evidence at all". Everybody has reasons that are good to them for believing what they believe, whether it's in Jesus, New Gunterston, alien visitation, or Cecil Adams.But some reasons are better than others. Believing in evolution is reasonable because it has a mountain of evidence behind it. New Gunterston, while a veritable Shangri-La of loose women and advanced treatments for venereal diseases, would be nice if it existed, but doesn't really have much aside from second hand accounts.

[Lobohan]

"The beer was hot and the chicks were cheap."

Mmmm....how the feminists must love THAT!

Male dominance.

Let us be kool as they have been.

No commitment.
Just the kool 'thrust' of hooking up.

Woo hoo...(as 'Homer' would say)

SOUL FROST, "...the chicks were cheap..."

DOES that mean it didn't take much to get your penis satisfied?

LOVE how you think of females as "chicks" ....

Yeah, right....and this is SO MUCH BETTER for females...than religious strictions...

IDIOT!!Hey, dude, can we get serious for a minute?

I just want you to know, and I mean this in all sincerity, you aren't smart enough to post here. I'm sorry, and I'm not trying to attack you. But you need to face reality and realize that in particular this website is about fighting ignorance. It's about being able to learn and go past the deficits we all have in our knowledge around the world.

Dude, and again, this isn't an attack, you are barely sentient. You live in a foggy world that I suspect appears to blur and flash by at times because you can't understand what is happening around you.

This is okay, we need people in our society that will be content working for the food-service industry. You have a place. You have a purpose, namely, being a drone doing manual labor for people much, much smarter than you.

But your place isn't here.

I'm sorry. Please go before you look any stupider.

God bless.

[Dostoyevsky]

I vote we kill mutantmoose, Boyo Jim, ivan astikov, and Der Trihs. No one else. Just them.

An equally funny & hilarious atheist,
Me

[Dostoyevsky]

Dude, and again, this isn't an attack[SNIP]



1) If you have to tell someone, well...

2) The most efficient way of not attacking someone is to STFU.

[Lobohan]

1) If you have to tell someone, well...

2) The most efficient way of not attacking someone is to STFU.You're a clever one. :D

I was lulling him into what you might call a calm and docile state. Of course it was an attack. This is the pit.

[Lunchy]

"The beer was hot and the chicks were cheap."

Mmmm....how the feminists must love THAT!

Male dominance.

Let us be kool as they have been.

No commitment.
Just the kool 'thrust' of hooking up.

Woo hoo...(as 'Homer' would say)

SOUL FROST, "...the chicks were cheap..."

DOES that mean it didn't take much to get your penis satisfied?

LOVE how you think of females as "chicks" ....

Yeah, right....and this is SO MUCH BETTER for females...than religious strictions...

IDIOT!!

Sorry, gender card and victim card cannot be in play simultaneously, board rules!

[Malleus, Incus, Stapes!]

Guys, guys, let's cool it, okay?
"Hi, you're an atheist, I'm religious. Let's agree to disagree. Want to go out for pizza?"

Except the OP. He can stay home.

[SoulFrost]

Guys, guys, let's cool it, okay?
"Hi, you're an atheist, I'm religious. Let's agree to disagree. Want to go out for pizza?"

Except the OP. He can stay home.

But that would mean that some people are going to hell or that other people are holding irrational beliefs!

How about we eat the pizza together and agree that the OP is both irrational and going to hell?

[Gustav]

Only too late did they realize the reason OP stayed home is because he's the one that poisoned the pizza.

[Attack from the 3rd dimension]

Guys, guys, let's cool it, okay?
"Hi, you're an atheist, I'm religious. Let's agree to disagree. Want to go out for pizza?"

Except the OP. He can stay home.

You're one of the few people I'd like to go out for pizza with. Just thought I'd mention it.

[Ají de Gallina]

IIRC, Rune is Danish. The Danes and the Swedes have a long-running feud, and if you want to know why you'll have to ask a Dane. It's a Scandinavian thing.

Could you make it so that it included the Swabians?
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I'm loving this thread, even if it calls for my demise and my family's.

[Telcontar]

You really think the OP is serious ? This thread is simply trolling to upset the religious minority on this board.

Of course the OP is trolling. Is that some kind of defense? I mean seriously folks, if I posted a thread saying that all Black people should be executed because they are a drain on society, would that be okay? Of course I wouldn't actually mean it....I would just want to utterly devalue of a group of people and express that in a highly offensive way.

[Gustav]

Difference being, as religious people LOVE to point out, they're not the minority.

[Polycarp]

The Swabians? What about the Visigoths? ;)

[Telcontar]

Difference being, as religious people LOVE to point out, they're not the minority.

Do you really, really want to defend this guy? Seriously? What possible redeeming value do you see?

[Gustav]

Do you really, really want to defend this guy? Seriously? What possible redeeming value do you see?

Defend him? I'm on record endorsing his proposal.

[heatmiserfl]

Imagine having to turn someone like Denzel Washington into a zombie. What a waste!

Why can't we put at least some of the good-looking religious people in reeducation camps? I enthusiastically volunteer as a hedonism instructor.

[rolandgunslinger]

Defend him? I'm on record endorsing his proposal.

You endorse executing millions of people? Ok then start with all the religious people in your family.

[Gustav]

Can't make an omelette without breaking a few billion eggs.

[rolandgunslinger]

Geez.... another fucking troll.

[Really Not All That Bright]

What the fuck?

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[kaylasdad99]

Atheists killing religious people is a bunch of people with no irrational beliefs killing a bunch of people with irrational beliefs. So it's better. You see the difference?

Two wrongs do not make a right.TWO? How did the concept of TWO get intruduced into the discussion?

I thought we were talking about five billion. Surely five billion wrongs can make at least one little right...

[kaylasdad99]

Cite please. I know plenty of Atheists with irrational beliefs.

I'm sure people of any religion (and I do define Atheism as a religion*) are absolutely certain that their beliefs are entirely rational and it is only the other religions that are completely unfounded.

* I define "Religion" as being; A system of beliefs about the nature of the Universe and Humanity's place in it.Yeah, and "bald" is a hair color.

I think your definition fails, in that with atheism, there's no "system" there.

[Ají de Gallina]

The Swabians? What about the Visigoths? ;)

Visigoths? There's a bit of Visigoth blood in my veins.
And while we are at it, at least half the people in the Caprivi Strip gotta go.

[kaylasdad99]

The Swabians? What about the Visigoths? ;)Ummm, too late, I think.

[kaylasdad99]

Hey, Ají de Gallina, what are you doing here? This is MY page... :p

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[Ann Onimous]

TWO? How did the concept of TWO get intruduced into the discussion?

I thought we were talking about five billion. Surely five billion wrongs can make at least one little right...

Okay: how about two (or more) wrongs don't make a right?

[Claude Remains]

All this talk of murder is getting too hot. Why don't all you Godlovers chill out and have a nice glass of Flavor aid? Please.

[Telcontar]

Sigh. Idiots.

So, the OP has basically admitted in the ATMB thread that he was trolling, which should surprise no one. I was under the impression that trolling was generally disapproved of but, apparently, standards have changed around here.

[mutantmoose]

I didn't admit to trolling. I just said I thought some of the reaction was funny.

[Ann Onimous]

I didn't admit to trolling. I just said I thought some of the reaction was funny.

I'm praying for you.

[Oakminster]

I didn't admit to trolling. I just said I thought some of the reaction was funny.

Oh bullshit. You are T. Roll McTrollerson. The definition of trolling is posting some outrageous position that you do not sincerely hold, for the purpose of stirring things up. That's exactly what you've done, and what you've admitted. Given your OP, there are two possible conclusions: 1) You are a homicidal maniac, or 2) You are trolling.

[Ají de Gallina]

Hey, Ají de Gallina, what are you doing here? This is MY page... :p

If I answer (as I have) it will be less kaylasdad99-ey.
Don't worry, once I'm killed, I won't be bothering you.

[Lobohan]

You are T. Roll McTrollerson.I had an office manager years ago who used to do that. I just want you to know you've given me traumatic flashbacks.

[Oakminster]

I had an office manager years ago who used to do that. I just want you to know you've given me traumatic flashbacks.

Sigh. It is difficult to only use my powers for good.

[Trepa Mayfield]

Guys, guys, let's cool it, okay?
"Hi, you're an atheist, I'm religious. Let's agree to disagree. Want to go out for pizza?"

Except the OP. He can stay home.

A: "Hi. I'm an athiest."
R: "And I'm religious."
R: "Boy, it sure is difficult trusting all of those scientists with their evolution."
A: "Well, thanks to atheism's patented Scientific Method (TM) system of thought, I have no problem accepting the idea."
R: "But...that would mean we came from monkeys!"
A: Gives a smirk

And then a banner flashes up: Atheism: Think differently.

And then everyone falls in love with religious guy because he's more sympathetic.

[Trepa Mayfield]

NETA: To Telcontar: OP is obviously a horrible person or a horrible troll. I (and, I assume, the others cracking jokes) thought that went without saying. The reason I'm cracking jokes is because he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

[Telcontar]

NETA: To Telcontar: OP is obviously a horrible person or a horrible troll. I (and, I assume, the others cracking jokes) thought that went without saying. The reason I'm cracking jokes is because he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Strangely I don't think that genocide is very funny. To give an analogy, when a person tells a racist joke, it is not a sign of disapproval to join in the laughter. Creates a certain atmosphere when one does.

[Siam Sam]

I never thought the Nazis were a laugh riot, but I loved Colonel Klink and Sergeant Schulz.

[Lanzy]

That's a lot to kill, you are going to have to find someone pretty all powerful to do it.

[MOIDALIZE]

That's a lot to kill, you are going to have to find someone pretty all powerful to do it.

Someone like...oh, I don't know....SATAN?! :dubious:

[Trepa Mayfield]

Strangely I don't think that genocide is very funny. To give an analogy, when a person tells a racist joke, it is not a sign of disapproval to join in the laughter. Creates a certain atmosphere when one does.

But the original post wasn't a joke. It was a serious proposal. Taking your analogy, it's like if someone said "let's kill all the black people" and everyone else started laughing at him and swapping (non-racist) jokes about it. They're not condoning him. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[kaylasdad99]

I believe it's called PALATR.

Look it up on Urban Dictionary. It's kinda new. Like as new as Internet message boards.

[SoulFrost]

I believe it's called PALATR.

Look it up on Urban Dictionary. It's kinda new. Like as new as Internet message boards.

Hell with that--look it up on the Straight Dope (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=416501).

[Telcontar]

But the original post wasn't a joke. It was a serious proposal. Taking your analogy, it's like if someone said "let's kill all the black people" and everyone else started laughing at him and swapping (non-racist) jokes about it. They're not condoning him. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Mutant was trolling, so calling it a serious proposal gives it a tad more dignity than is really deserved. This thread's purpose was "hey, lets all talk about how much we hate religious people" and, in that framing, jokes about how it would really be a mercy somehow seem supportive. Especially given the people who weren't actually joking.

This is really more attention than I had any desire to pay to this steaming pile of shit. I think I'll check out of this thread now.

[Attack from the 3rd dimension]

I have to agree with some of the comments above. I certainly approached it with a 'make fun of the ridiculous OP' approach. I can certainly see how the high road would be not participating.

[mutantmoose]

I don't mind if a mod closes this now. It was fun for a while but now the humourless twonks seem to have showed up.

I've decided I actually prefer the religious people to humourless atheists. Who'd have thought - you've nearly converted me.

[Gustav]

Should've killed all the humorless people first, then the rest is smooth sailing.

[heatmiserfl]

Should've killed all the humorless people first, then the rest is smooth sailing.

Yeah, humorless people make the zombie baby Jesus cry. :(

[Boyo Jim]

I would like to read a New Testament based on forgiveness for eating brains.

[ivan astikov]

From what I recall, The Bible was distinctly lacking in gag material, although that bit about the talking snake was some funny shit, right there.

[MOIDALIZE]

I think the Last Supper could have used a pie fight, myself.

[Walker in Eternity]

I'm praying for you.

This is, of course, not generally accepted as a way of getting on the good side of someone who wants to annihilate you because of your irrational belief system.:)

[maladroit]

1. There are not enough atheists to carry out the executions.

2. One would have to have a lot of faith to be convinced that this is the right thing to do. Athiests are notoriously short on faith.

3. I'm guessing there is a very high correlation among political and religious conservatives and gun owners. Many of them actually mean it when they say, "You can take my gun out of my cold dead hands." I am not interested in a lifetime of firefights, nor getting rounded up myself and put up against the wall when these folks get organized.

So, no.

Better off convincing them that God wants them to die and join him in paradise. How would one go about removing the stigma from suicide?

If death by cop was good enough for Jesus it should be good enough for his cult as well

[Trepa Mayfield]

From what I recall, The Bible was distinctly lacking in gag material, although that bit about the talking snake was some funny shit, right there.

There is exactly one joke in the old testament, and exactly one in the new.

[ivan astikov]

Go on then, the suspense is killing me.

[Nature's Call]

There is exactly one joke in the old testament, and exactly one in the new.

I see what you did there.

[akennett]

I'm praying for you.

Ah, prayer -- the very, very, VERY least you could do. Literally.

[Guinastasia]

I don't mind if a mod closes this now. It was fun for a while but now the humourless twonks seem to have showed up.

I've decided I actually prefer the religious people to humourless atheists. Who'd have thought - you've nearly converted me.

Go back to your bridge.

[Thudlow Boink]

From what I recall, The Bible was distinctly lacking in gag material, although that bit about the talking snake was some funny shit, right there.The Master speaks:
Are there any jokes in the Bible? (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1165/are-there-any-jokes-in-the-bible)

(And the Dopers respond:
Are there any jokes in the Bible? (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482148)
Biblical Jokes (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=487060)
Biblical humor (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=179291))

[Drunky Smurf]

Ah, prayer -- the very, very, VERY least you could do. Literally.

Wouldn't not praying and doing nothing be "the very, very, VERY least" they could have done? Literally.

[Gustav]

No no, doing nothing is the same as not doing, so it's not something you can do.

I think...

[Oakminster]

I don't mind if a mod closes this now. It was fun for a while but now the humourless twonks seem to have showed up.

I've decided I actually prefer the religious people to humourless atheists. Who'd have thought - you've nearly converted me.

Doesn't work that way, Sparky. Maybe if you were to sincerely apologize and request thread closure. Otherwise, you made your bed with your ridiculous trolling, and now you get to lay in it. And pretty much for however long you chose to remain here, which I hope isn't very, the memory of this thread will follow you. You'll always be known as the asshole that posted the "All religious people should be executed" thread. You can pretty much forget ever being taken seriously on any subject, because you've shown your true colors--you're a feckless wanker, unworthy of consideration.

[mutantmoose]

Actually it does work that way, bozo. I started the thread so I can request closure. I only requested closure because the humour impaired were starting to show up in droves not because I have a problem with the subject matter.

I really really don't like religion. My dislike of religion is stronger and more powerful than I think you realise. Whilst I'm obviously joking that I'd like to execute all religious people, there's a part of me that would seriously like to do it. Maybe as payback for all the people the religious have executed over the centuries and continue to do so today.

[Polycarp]

No no, doing nothing is the same as not doing, so it's not something you can do.

I think...

Und zen you have der Kristianwerke! :)

[Polycarp]

Actually it does work that way, bozo. I started the thread so I can request closure. I only requested closure because the humour impaired were starting to show up in droves not because I have a problem with the subject matter.

I really really don't like religion. My dislike of religion is stronger and more powerful than I think you realise. Whilst I'm obviously joking that I'd like to execute all religious people, there's a part of me that would seriously like to do it. Maybe as payback for all the people the religious have executed over the centuries and continue to do so today.

You can request a new pony, too. Doesn't mean the Mods. will give you one.

However, I'd like to explore exactly why you started this particular thread, in light of what you just had to say above. Essentially you're admitting to doing an irrational thing out of a blind hatred towards a group based on the perceived evil actions of some of its members. Do I need to draw out the point further, or is it obvious from that alone?

[Grrr!]

I think we can give the Jewish folks a pass. They have no interest in converting us. Or killing us for that matter.

[Boyo Jim]

Is there a button to request a new pony?

[MsWhatsit]

Is there a button to request a new pony?

Well, if there's not, then what the hell have I been pushing?