Favre tells Vikings he's not coming back

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Brett Favre has reportedly told the Vikings (http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/99841644.html?elr=KArks:DCiUo3PD:3D_V_qD3L:c7cQKUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aU7DYaGEP7vDEh7P:DiUs) that he's actually going to retire this time. He says his ankle hasn't responded to surgery. An official announcement from Favre and a press conference from Brad Childress are expected later in the day.

I know it's Favre, and it doesn't necessarily mean he won't change his mind again, but I don't think he'd play this game this close to the start of the season. It's not like he needed the excuse to skip training camp. The team was perfectly willing to let him skip training camp already. I think the ankle just really hasn't come back, and he doesn't want to play if he can't run.

Looks like we're going to be back to watching Tavaris Jackson sail balls ten feet over Sidney Rice's head. :(

[Gangster Octopus]

If Favre told me the sky was blue and bacon tasted good I wouldn't believe him. I'll wait.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

If Favre told me the sky was blue and bacon tasted good I wouldn't believe him. I'll wait.

Yeah.

Well, except for the bacon thing.

mmm

[Duke]

Looks like we're going to be back to watching Tavaris Jackson sail balls ten feet over Sidney Rice's head. :(

But you do have Sage Rosenfels, who you have to admit looks really good out there. When he's on the sidelines holding a clipboard.

[Uncle Jocko]

Sage Rosenfels, baby! It looked like he was going to be the starter last year until Favre showed up. Represent Iowa State!

I don't see what the love is for TJack amongst the Viking coaching staff. I don't think there's a lot of love amongst the fans.

This brings the draft back in focus for me. My son and I were watching the first round, seeing Jimmy Claussen drop and drop with the Vikes' pick coming up, thinking the chance to grab a QB below his apparent pre-draft value would be a really good idea -- JUST for this eventuality. Heck, even if Favre did come back this year, it'd almost certainly only be for one season, which would be a pretty good learning opportunity for a rookie quarterback.

Instead, we have Toby Gearhart (who I do believe is a GREAT fit for the Vikings style) ... but TJack/Rosenfels/some UAB rookie taking snaps. Oh, well.

[tnetennba]

Take it with a Great Salt Lake of salt.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Maybe Joe Webb will emerge. Hey, Tom Brady came out of nowhere as a 6th round draft pick. It could happen, right? Right?

[The Other Jeffrey Lebowski]

Could Favre come back in a few months, after the ankle has healed? When is the Vikes bye week?

[Robot Arm]

An official announcement from Favre and a press conference from Brad Childress are expected later in the day.Think anyone from the press will show up?

[Gangster Octopus]

ESPN is at Code Red

[Oakminster]

Can't get Dio's link in the OP to work, but here's another one to CNN/SI (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/08/03/favre.vikings.ap/index.html?eref=sihp)

[kenobi 65]

SI.com story here:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/08/03/favre.vikings.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

Allegedly, his ankle hasn't recovered sufficiently from surgery.

So, the question is: assuming that this report is accurate -- do you believe this is his final decision?

Personally, I'll *only* be convinced if it's November, and he still hasn't suited up for the Vikings. He's that damned indecisive, and that willing to let how he feels *today* color his decisions. What if his ankle feels better in a month?

Edit: Oops, didn't see the earlier thread. Will ask a moderator to merge or delete this one.

[Duke]

ESPN is at Code Red

I'm waiting for the day when instead of "MLB/NFL/NHL/NBA" the ESPN ticker just reads something like "LeBron/Farve/A-Rod/Kobe". ESPN's been turning into fucking People Magazine over the last year.

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Oh Lord. Please let it be true...its time for the "gunslinger" to gracefully fade from our collective consciousnesses and from ESPN headlines. Enough I say, enough!
:)

[mhendo]

ESPN is at Code RedI think they should have a one-hour special, just for the announcement.

[peekercpa]

ESPN is at Code RedI think they should have a one-hour special, just for the announcement.

and it is going to be hosted by lebron james.

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

He must be upset that the media have been paying him relatively little attention so he's putting this out there to stir up drama and get his name in the media again.

I'm also certain that a fresh set of Wrangler commercials designed to portray Brett as the everyman, backyard football gunslinger are already in production to soothe his ego.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I think they should have a one-hour special, just for the announcement.

and it is going to be hosted by lebron james.
After days of hype and lead up to the show, Favre tells host, LeBron James:

"I have definitely decided that I might not reconsider unretiring, probably."

[Marley23]

"Um, this is hard. I've decided to take my talents to South Beach and join the National Shuffleboard League."

[Diogenes the Cynic]

He must be upset that the media have been paying him relatively little attention so he's putting this out there to stir up drama and get his name in the media again.

I'm also certain that a fresh set of Wrangler commercials designed to portray Brett as the everyman, backyard football gunslinger are already in production to soothe his ego.
He really might have a bad ankle, you know. He's had three surgeries on it, he's 40 years old and his body has got to be beat to hell. That's the crazy thing. He's cried wolf so many times, nobody will believe him even if he's telling the truth, but it's not actually implausible that his ankle just isn't coming back after surgery this time.

[Gangster Octopus]

He must be upset that the media have been paying him relatively little attention so he's putting this out there to stir up drama and get his name in the media again.

I'm also certain that a fresh set of Wrangler commercials designed to portray Brett as the everyman, backyard football gunslinger are already in production to soothe his ego.
He really might have a bad ankle, you know. He's had three surgeries on it, he's 40 years old and his body has got to be beat to hell. That's the crazy thing. He's cried wolf so many times, nobody will believe him even if he's telling the truth, but it's not actually implausible that his ankle just isn't coming back after surgery this time.

Well, it is true that one of these times it will basolutely be true...unless he dies first.

[kenobi 65]

I actually have no doubts that he has a bad ankle, and that it hurts like hell, and that he can't play on it. At this point in time.

The question, for me, is: what happens in a month, or two months, if his ankle improves? We don't know if it's something that's just been slow to heal from the surgery, or if it's more of a degenerative condition, that is simply not going to get any better than it is now.

If it's the latter, then the announcement makes sense. But, given everything that's come out of Favreville before today, if it *is* a degenerative condition, that's a big surprise.

If it's the former, then why didn't he just have the Vikings put him on the PUP list, or find some way that he could keep rehabbing it, rather than throw in the towel now?

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

He must be upset that the media have been paying him relatively little attention so he's putting this out there to stir up drama and get his name in the media again.

I'm also certain that a fresh set of Wrangler commercials designed to portray Brett as the everyman, backyard football gunslinger are already in production to soothe his ego.
He really might have a bad ankle, you know. He's had three surgeries on it, he's 40 years old and his body has got to be beat to hell. That's the crazy thing. He's cried wolf so many times, nobody will believe him even if he's telling the truth, but it's not actually implausible that his ankle just isn't coming back after surgery this time.

Oh, I know. I'm just joking around. If I were a Vikings fan I'd be pretty concerned about returning to the playoffs next season without him, because the other QB's the Vikes have are, ah, mediocre.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Mediocre? We wish.

[Little Nemo]

Oh Lord. Please let it be true...its time for the "gunslinger" to gracefully fade from our collective consciousnesses and from ESPN headlines. Enough I say, enough!:)I had to check the date on your post. For a second, I thought this was a zombie thread from 2008.

[kenobi 65]

I had to check the date on your post. For a second, I thought this was a zombie thread from 2008.

Or 2007...or 2006...or 2009...

;)

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Mediocre? We wish.

I was trying to be charitable! Its the offseason, so I don't really hate any of the other teams yet. Well, except the Steelers, Ravens and Browns, in that order.

[Oakminster]

Farve gets more grief than he deserves. Yeah, he's not real good at making permanent decisions that stick. He's also a no doubt HoF player, probably on his first ballot, and a decent human being. If he's played his last game, then he had a helluva run. If he's still got more in the tank, I'd like to see it.

[Chicagojeff]

Smart move for Buckhead Brett.. Julius Peppers and Urlacher were going to commensce to whip his ass this year.. instead we can look forward to making AP fumble three or four times..

More and More lookin like The Beloved will take the Central?North.. what ever they call it now!!!

[wolfman]

If Favre told me the sky was blue and bacon tasted good I wouldn't believe him. I'll wait.

I don't know. My ANSI love-of-the-gameometer is showing a precipitous drop of 75 kiloMaddens since last year.

[jk1245]

Smart move for Buckhead Brett.. Julius Peppers and Urlacher were going to commensce to whip his ass this year.. instead we can look forward to making AP fumble three or four times..

More and More lookin like The Beloved will take the Central?North.. what ever they call it now!!!

Funny that a Chicago guy would call the Pack "The Beloved". Maybe you're truly that rarest of things; a wise Chicagoan. :)

And yeah, I'll believe Favre's done when the season ends and he hasn't played.

[mkecane]

It's funny to read things from Packers fans talking up the chances of a team that gave up 50+ points in the Wild Card loss, and has since had one of its better defensive players get suspended for the season. At least d-coordinators around the league haven't had a chance to figure out anything about Aaron Rodgers, right?

[Hampshire]

A week or so ago our local sports-talk radio station started a contest to pick what day Favre will show up at a team practice. I picked 8/23. I still stand by that pick.

[Death of Rats]

I think his plan is to retire and then sign a big contract with Chicago to continue the "Rub his Ass in the Packers Fans Faces by Playing for Hated Rivals Tour" :D

[Nars Glinley]

[lolcats] I has a sad. [\lolcats]

This really sucks. The only upside I can see is that now Peterson will get hit in the backfield before he has a chance to fumble.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Now there are reports that Favre's brother is saying Favre hasn't actually made a decision after all. Chilly said in his press conference earlier that the situation is "fluid" and that Brett hasn't told him he was retiring.


:rolleyes:

[Robot Arm]

So, does this mean that Favre had been planning to play for the Vikings this season? If he wasn't, why wait til now to announce it; if he was, was there any commitment to the Vikings management and is he in any sort of breach of contract if he arbitrarily changes his mind?

[Oakminster]

I think his deal is basically, he can play if he wants, and if he does, he gets paid. Otherwise, he doesn't get paid.

I also heard the "well, maybe he will play after all" thing on local sports radio this afternoon. As a betting man, I think I'd....bet on something else. He's either gonna play or he won't, and damned if I know either way.

[Hamlet]

I'll believe it when Week 1 comes and he's not suiting up. Until then, it's the usual dramafest. I would not be shocked if Wilf and Childress (aka Brett's bitch) fly down to Hattiesberg, throw more money at Brett and gives Brett's ego a nice massage with a happy ending and he decides to play after all.

Personally, I think he should come back to raise the hopes and dreams of Vikings fans once again, only to throw two stupid interceptions and have a fumble in a big game to help cost them a chance at the Super Bowl. I was actually worried last year that he'd actually developed beyond that, but I wouldn't mind seeing it happen yet again. To the Vikings that is.

[drm]

Now there are reports that Favre's brother is saying Favre hasn't actually made a decision after all. Chilly said in his press conference earlier that the situation is "fluid" and that Brett hasn't told him he was retiring.


:rolleyes:

Which screams to me, "there ain't no way you are getting me to training camp, no way, no how. Hell, I may not even show up until after the bye week and there isn't anything you can do because my backup is Tavaris Jackson."

[Jackknifed Juggernaut]

Now there are reports that Favre's brother is saying Favre hasn't actually made a decision after all. Chilly said in his press conference earlier that the situation is "fluid" and that Brett hasn't told him he was retiring.


:rolleyes:

Which screams to me, "there ain't no way you are getting me to training camp, no way, no how. Hell, I may not even show up until after the bye week and there isn't anything you can do because my backup is Tavaris Jackson."

Nah, one of the reasons he keeps coming back is to maintain his consecutive games streak. If he misses Week 1, he's done.

[tnetennba]

Why did Joe Webb draft so low? Sounds like a pretty great athlete.

[kenobi 65]

Nah, one of the reasons he keeps coming back is to maintain his consecutive games streak. If he misses Week 1, he's done.

If he's on a retired or other sort of non-injury related list, I'm not sure if that would, technically, break the streak.

[Superhal]

I just voted on two polls at sports.yahoo.com, and the results are:

Poll #1: Do you think Farve will play for the Vikings in 2010?
70% yes (this came out after the announcement, thus 70% of fans think he's a liar.)
30% n0

Poll #2: When will you believe that Brett Favre is really, truly retired?
#1 answer: I will never believe Brett Farve. (32%, 6 options.)

[Ellis Dee]

If he's on a retired or other sort of non-injury related list, I'm not sure if that would, technically, break the streak.Yes it would. Not missing any games due to injury is the whole point of the streak.

EDIT: Let's hear it for my reading comprehension, eh? Can't screw the pooch much more than that.

[Superhal]

Missed window: so regardless of whether he comes back or not, he's clearly lost the respect of fans.

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

Missed window: so regardless of whether he comes back or not, he's clearly lost the respect of fans.

What year did that happen? Its like Groundhog Day. Over and fucking over.

[Ají de Gallina]

If Favre told me the sky was blue and bacon tasted good I wouldn't believe him. I'll wait.

Yeah.

Well, except for the bacon thing.

mmm

I don't quite believe that his name is Bret Favre.
My guess is that he might be a late-season replacement.

[BottledBlondJeanie]

Word is wait for by week 4. I've loved Favre for years, but if even I am sick of this...

Dio, I do enjoy that you Vikes are feeling the Packers' pain.

[Gangster Octopus]

Well, the mud is being slung over at Deadspin:

(NSFW discussion) Brett Favre sends some....uh....photos to not his wife (http://deadspin.com/5603701/brett-favre-once-sent-me-cock-shots-not-a-love-story)

I don't know if it s true or not, just thought I would put it out there.

[Snickers]

Kare11's reporting that they've thrown another $7 million at him, on top of the $13 million he was already getting. Peter King puts odd on him joining the team in week 4 (like BottledBlondJeanie reported) after the bye. The first teams we play are also all playoff contenders, King surmises, so that coincidentally also gives Brett a chance to see whether the Vikings will be in the hunt as well before he rejoins.

I don't really care either way. Yes, I'd love to have him back. Without him, we've got serious issues at QB. But I'm also tired of the circus, tho' I think the Vikings are doing pretty well not calling too much attention to it.

[DigitalC]

And now he's claiming he hasn't made a decision yet, ugh.

[BottledBlondJeanie]

And now thanks to Gangster Octopus all I can think about is Favre masturbating with nothing but Crocs and a watch on. Thanks for killing my fantasies.

[drm]

Which screams to me, "there ain't no way you are getting me to training camp, no way, no how. Hell, I may not even show up until after the bye week and there isn't anything you can do because my backup is Tavaris Jackson."

Nah, one of the reasons he keeps coming back is to maintain his consecutive games streak. If he misses Week 1, he's done.

Yeah, I'd forgotten all about that.

Apparently now he hasn't made a decision? What a self centered douche bag. I hate the guy and this is the last I'll speak of him.

[DigitalC]

Is this really just a ploy to skip training camp and the pre season? and if so couldn't he just tell the team he's not going to do any of that?

[Marley23]

It ain't over 'til .... EVER. It is never ever ever ever over. Ever!

[Hampshire]

Holy Crap! I really wish people would get over this.
The only ones who have their undies in a bunch over this is the media and the fans. And the media is just feeding the frenzy.
I don't see Childress stressed out over this.
I don't see Wilf stressed out over this.
I don't see Favre stressed out over this.
I don't see other players stressed out over this.
I don't see the NFL stressed out over this.
But the media and the fans? "AHHHHHH! OMG, OMG, OMG! WTF!!I hate him!! Primadonna! Dramaqueen!!"
Do yourselves a favor. Walk away and come back on September 9th. Nothing matters until that date anyway.

[Ellis Dee]

We're excited about training camps and the upcoming season. Brett Favre drama has been shitting all over this time of year for the better part of a decade. We're allowed to be pissed about that.

[Jackknifed Juggernaut]

He's like that one girl in high school or college for whom you would do anything. She could tell you anything, lie to you, cheat on you, cheat off of you, talk shit about you but, you always take her back. Everybody else tells you that you're being ridiculous. Your friends remind you that she's hot, but what has she really done for you besides borrow money, treat you like a chauffer, etc.? The Vikings are like Forrest Gump and Favre is like Jenny.

Sure Favre's got a great arm, but what has he done in the past 13 seasons? He's had great games and provided some spectacular highlights. But at the end of the day, he'll make some stupid decision to throw it all out the window. And yet the Vikings kneel in his presence.

[unwashed brain]

Vikes fan here - I've been hoping that he'll come back, but I know the odds are slim that he'd be able to repeat his 2009 performance. He gave us our most enjoyable season since 1998 and for that I'm willing to cut him a lot of slack.

If he doesn't come back, well, it's going to suck watching Tarvaris bring all the talent around him down to his level. He'll get all the first-team reps this summer, so maybe he'll develop some chemistry with someone whose job it is to catch the ball.

I don't care when Favre announces what he's doing or how much the media covers it or how much all you Dopers bitch about all of it. All I care about is the 2-4* wins he'll add to our season total if he's our QB.

*srsly scientific opinion

[tnetennba]

The Vikings are like Forrest Gump and Favre is like Jenny.

Ha ha ha ha ha. I'm totally stealing that.

[dalej42]

Interesting story (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/03/vikings-have-little-choice-when-dealing-favre/) on the Vikings really needing to continue to do well.

[Hamlet]

All I care about is the 2-4* wins he'll add to our season total if he's our QB.

*srsly scientific opinionDo you care about the 3 turnovers* that helped cost your team a shot at the Super Bowl?

*indicates actual number of turnovers in NFC title game.

[unwashed brain]

Do you care about the 3 turnovers* that helped cost your team a shot at the Super Bowl?

*indicates actual number of turnovers in NFC title game.
I care about the statistical improbability of us trouncing the NFC North and getting to that game without Favre. In other words, I'd rather get to the game and lose than watch it on TV without my team in it (e.g., Bears and Packers fans). It was an awesome year, all things considered.

[Superhal]

Dear Minnesota fans:

Gimme a break. You guys got him for free because he wanted to be a dick to GB. He retired to break his contract with the Jets, screwed them over, and then joined the vikings. The Jets had to trade for him, thus screwing themselves. All trades in the NFL is a matter of give and take to maintain some balance of power between teams. Look what happened to the NBA when the Lakers, Celtics, and Miami piled up the superstars without any compensation to other teams. Minnesota is a team built for the Superbowl, that is true. However, they didn't get there legitimately nor fairly. They got a Superbowl quarterback for free, and now you can't complain that he screwed you over royally just like how he screwed the Jets (although at least the Vikings got him for 2 years, the jets only got him for 1.)

[moldybread]

I really would like to see him return for the Vikes game on august 9th. Rematch with the Saints!!!! Should be a game of epic proportions!! well imo.

Also, Bobby Mcray is back this year and wants payback for the fine he got. :)

[Hampshire]

A week or so ago our local sports-talk radio station started a contest to pick what day Favre will show up at a team practice. I picked 8/23. I still stand by that pick.

Dammit! He's not supposed to be here till Monday!

[Death of Rats]

HE"S BAAAA-AAAAACK! (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/damon_hack/08/17/favre.vikings/index.html?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin)

[Diogenes the Cynic]

A week or so ago our local sports-talk radio station started a contest to pick what day Favre will show up at a team practice. I picked 8/23. I still stand by that pick.

Dammit! He's not supposed to be here till Monday!
Hey, it's Brett. He could still retire and unretire again before monday.

[Gangster Octopus]

Dammit! He's not supposed to be here till Monday!
Hey, it's Brett. He could still retire and unretire again before monday.

I am not a VIking fan and the Favre saga is tiring, but some folks whining about how the Vikings have no respect or look despearate or some other nonsense is total idiocy and irrelevant, especially if he does as is hoped and eexpected.

If I was a VIking fan I would be concerned about that ankle, we all know how tough Favre is, but he is 41 and it just has to catch up at some point. I would put the odds of his consecutive game streak ending this season at about 50/50.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

I am a Vikings fan and I'm going to pretend you didn't say anything about the streak. Please don't jinx us.

[cmkeller]

Death of Rats:

I think his plan is to retire and then sign a big contract with Chicago to continue the "Rub his Ass in the Packers Fans Faces by Playing for Hated Rivals Tour"

Are the Jets even on Packers fans' radar at all? One rival does not a "tour" make.

[MissTake]

He's baaaa-aaaccckkkkkk.

[An Arky]

Brad Childress is Brett Farve's bottom boy and everybody knows it. I'm not a Farve hater at all (my cousin went to high school with him), but geez, this is ridiculous.

[MissTake]

Brad Childress is Brett Farve's bottom boy and everybody knows it. I'm not a Farve hater at all (my cousin went to high school with him), but geez, this is ridiculous.

I'm glad I didn't take up a co-workers offer to take a shot every time Farve got choked up during his press conference. I'd be seriously wasted.

I really don't care one way or another. I'll go to a game or two, watch the Packers/Vikes games with the family. I just am so tired of the second coming of God.

[ToeJam]

Brett Farve is the only true "Maverick" allowed in the USA.
When he quits his job, he'll come back and finish it up the next year.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

Favre said in his press conference today that this is really, really, truly his last season for reals and that there won't be any drama next year.

[straight man]

Favre said in his press conference today that this is really, really, truly his last season for reals and that there won't be any drama next year.
...and if you believe that, perhaps you should change your username to "Diogenes the Naïf". ;)

[Diogenes the Cynic]

It has to be true sometime.

[straight man]

It has to be true sometime.
Personally, I'm betting on it happening when he's actually too injured to play. Or he'll get stoned by a crowd of angry fans or something. :D

[garygnu]

I'm practically rooting for the Vikings to win the Super Bowl, just to get rid of the guy. (I would assume he's not so stupid as to not take the opportunity to retire a winner, like Elway. Then again, Elway came back one more year and repeated before retiring for good.)

[mhendo]

I've never had anything against the Vikings, but i'm now rooting for them to go 0-16, and for the offensive line to collapse every game so that Favre ends up crushed on the ground time after time.

[Death of Rats]

Death of Rats:

I think his plan is to retire and then sign a big contract with Chicago to continue the "Rub his Ass in the Packers Fans Faces by Playing for Hated Rivals Tour"

Are the Jets even on Packers fans' radar at all? One rival does not a "tour" make.

He did a year with the Jets because that was where the Packers could dump him. He signed with the Vikings to kick GB in the teeth.

[Grey]

Which is weird beyond belief when you go to Lambeau field and wander through the Packer Hall of Fame. There are (or were last year :) ) cases and exhibits waiting to be filled.

[Diogenes the Cynic]

He's already said he'll go into the HOF as a Packer (as he should). I think by the time he actually goes in, the Green Bay fans will be ready to welcome him back. His grudge is against the management, not the fans.

[Robot Arm]

Favre said in his press conference today that this is really, really, truly his last season for reals and that there won't be any drama next year.I'm taking all bets. Whoever's closest to the actual date and time of his arrival at training camp next year wins the jackpot. Over/under is the third day after the first pre-season game. Pick your reason; "sprained wrist" is at 8-1, "more time fishing" is 14-1, and "after the arraignment" is seeing a lot of action at 5-2.



I'm not really taking all bets.

[cmkeller]

Diognes:

Favre said in his press conference today that this is really, really, truly his last season for reals and that there won't be any drama next year.

Did anyone check his hands for crossed fingers? Did they make him say "no backsies" on camera?

[Gangster Octopus]

It has to be true sometime.

Cite?

[Fear the Turtle]

It's like Groundhog Day. Favre has to keep playing his career ending game over and over until he can do it without throwing a pick that costs his team the game.

[jsc1953]

Compared to his previous performances of Hamlet, this one was relatively smooth.....EXCEPT for the blue-ribbon delegation that flew to Mississippi to spake unto the Favre. Don't they have phones?

[ElvisL1ves]

He's already said he'll go into the HOF as a Packer (as he should). Which is odd, because the pro football Hall has only bronze busts of its members, not including any uniform parts. The official index includes all teams its members were associated with.

Or is he going to try retiring from baseball too?

[villa]

EXCEPT for the blue-ribbon delegation that flew to Mississippi to spake unto the Favre. Don't they have phones?

In Mississippi? Really, you have to ask?

[Ají de Gallina]

It has to be true sometime.

Cite?

If take "sometime" to mean "any moment before the thermodynamic death of the universe" I agree.

He's already said he'll go into the HOF as a Packer (as he should). Which is odd, because the pro football Hall has only bronze busts of its members, not including any uniform parts. The official index includes all teams its members were associated with.

Or is he going to try retiring from baseball too?

Worse, he's going to unretire from baseball and then keep everyone guessing.

[Really Not All That Bright]

You know, if we murdered his entire family and dug up his farm he'd run out of things to say he's retiring to spend more time with.

I keed, I keed!

On the other hand, if somebody stuffed a baggie of coke in his pocket at a party we could probably get GMs to stop signing him.
He's already said he'll go into the HOF as a Packer (as he should). Which is odd, because the pro football Hall has only bronze busts of its members, not including any uniform parts. The official index includes all teams its members were associated with.
They're still listed with "a" team, and portraits of them in that uniform are displayed on stage during their speeches.

ETA: Am I the only one who found it amusing that the Vikings sent all their white guys to talk him into coming back, and not one black guy? I mean, I can understand Longwell, because they played together in Green Bay for years, but not the others. As far as I can tell, only Jeff Dugan and the punter didn't get to go.