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matt_mcl
09-10-1999, 12:40 AM
I just concluded a conversation with a straight woman who told me she'd never played with her boyfriend's nipples, hadn't considered it, and probably wouldn't in the future. Now I don't know about other guys, but my nipples are a primary erogenous zone! What gives? Are straight women less enclined to explore their menfriends' bodies than gay men? Or is there something else at work?

Mac
09-10-1999, 01:03 AM
I heartily agree with you a man's nipples are very sensitive and it feels great when my wife touches my chest. You are the first man that I have ever heard that was wiling to address the topic. Myself included I have told my wife though and she doesn't hesitate to take advantage of this especially when we are out in public.
As an interesting bit of educational trivia, according to the book Seven Weeks to Better Sex by Domeena Renshaw, MD Director, Loyola Sex Therapy Clinic. There are four areas on the human body that become erect when aroused, male or female. They are the nipples, genitals, earlobes, and the sinus passages.

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NanoByte
09-10-1999, 02:18 AM
Erect earlobes??? Or do you / does she mean 'sensitive'?

Or is there something else at work?

The boss might think so.

Ray

Omniscient
09-10-1999, 02:36 AM
I just don't like to have my nips played with. They're sensitive, but its annoying and tickles more than it is arousing. Stick to the neck and ears for me, among other things.

OfficeGirl
09-10-1999, 08:05 AM
As a mostly straight woman, I've been with a couple of guys who hated to have their nipples touched as well as one who nearly levitated when I touched his.

It's different from person to person. Even among women the sensitivity varies. My nipples are far more sensitive than most women's, and I can orgasm just by having someone play with my nipples. Some men are the same.

Hope that helps.



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AHunter3
09-10-1999, 08:41 AM
I love it when a groovy chick does my sinus passages!



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OfficeGirl
09-10-1999, 08:42 AM
what in the world does that mean??

'does' your sinus passages?

with what?



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Fretful Porpentine
09-10-1999, 10:29 AM
I'm a straight female and I always play with men's nipples (well, not ALWAYS always, but whenever their nipples happen to be available). I figure if it feels good when they do it to me, it should feel good for them too. I've always assumed that most other women do the same thing. Maybe Matt's friend is the weird one ...

Now I'm curious. How do you measure arousal of the sinus passages?

Athena
09-10-1999, 10:34 AM
Hmmmm... I don't know about other women, but one of the best things about being with a guy is being able to touch him all over. Nipples included. My guy loves having his nipples kissed and touched, and it's fun, so I do it.

I never heard anything before about sinuses being erogenous zones, but I do know that if I've got a cold or my sinuses are clogged for some other reason, having sex almost always clears 'em. I always thought it was just the movement involved. But maybe there's something else going on. Anyone else experience this?

BunnyGirl
09-10-1999, 10:39 AM
My hubby HATES to have his nipples touched. I like to do it though.

Ears ::sigh::mmmmmm.... that's my weak spot. Kiss or lick my ears and I'm mush. Well...that's probably too much information. Sorry!

VileOrb
09-10-1999, 10:46 AM
Sex definitely clears the sinuses for me. And, I once had a girlfriend who would want to have sex before leaving the house during the allergy season because she said it allowed her an hour or two of breathing before she clogged up. Let's all eliminate the onus of allergy season with some enthusiastic lovemaking! Unfortunately, I'm curently unattached. :(

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Mac
09-10-1999, 01:37 PM
OK people erogenous zones and body parts that become erect are to different things. I think?
hmm....maybe that was what he was doing check out this link to one of my earlier posts. http://www.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000113.html
If you don't think your sinuses get erect try doing it with your mouth shut and breathing through your nose, it's not easy.

DougC
09-10-1999, 01:57 PM
- - - I kinda like it when a girl sucks my nips, but only when I'm tired because if I still have energy the rest of me gets pretty bored after ten minutes or so. I didn't really consider or understand that until the tables were turned. - One rule: NO BITING ALLOWED! - MC

kellibelli
09-10-1999, 02:07 PM
I have known both type of men...the DONT TOUCH and the other kind...the other kind are more fun.
My last long term didnt like nipple or ear stimuli, basically he was all penis stimulation. Booooring! I couldnt even touch his feet! Ack..cant believe how long I stuck that out...I mean how long I was with him :o

I prefer a man who likes to be kissed/licked/nibbled/sucked all sorts of places...ears, nipples, back, feet, neck, wrists, bald spots mmmmm...oh my! :o

OfficeGirl
09-10-1999, 02:17 PM
i guess this is a little off-topic, but what about ear fetishes? the thought of someone sticking his tongue in my ear is kind of disgusting, but i recently discovered that it makes me orgasm very violently, and almost immediately. does anyone else have similar reactions?

Kiralyn
09-10-1999, 02:30 PM
Here! You know that reminds me, I'm telling my husband about that tonight! Definately, but I'd never thought of it as a fetish. I'm kinky after all!

OfficeGirl
09-10-1999, 02:41 PM
you know what's weird though? just thinking about it right now makes me feel almost sick. i can't stand having wet ears, and HAVE to use at least 2 Q-tips per ear as soon as i get out of the shower. it's a compulsion.

still, though, every time my ex stuck his tongue in my ear, BAM. how crazy is that?

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Athena
09-10-1999, 02:53 PM
My ex husband was a dick-only guy. I mean, this man didn't like ANYTHING except coitus and oral sex. Said he'd never orgasmed from a hand job (except through masturbation) and nothing else really did anything for him - nipples, neck, maybe a little ear stuff but very little. Hell, I wasn't even allowed to touch him anywhere near or on his spine. He said he couldn't stand it.

Now, maybe this was all very valid physical stuff for him. But my gut feeling was that it was his head doing this to him - only "normal" sex was OK. Nothing nasty at all. Talk about dull in bed!

DougC
09-10-1999, 03:47 PM
- - - I knew a girl once that liked her ears "stimulated" (i.e., bit) - she insisted I bite an earlobe while we, uh, were also doing something else. She would also thrash around somewhat, especially with her head and neck and I was supposed to bite hard enough to hold on, which was biting rather hard. I felt kinda odd doing something I knew had to hurt, but she was clearly disappointed if I didn't. I insisted on her removing her earrings because elsewise afterwards her ears would bleed. -She also liked chewing on mine; not playful or passionate - more like Doberman-with-a-Gucci. Didn't do anything for me except hurt - the nape of the neck is one of my own (nearby) hotspots. - MC

Nickrz
09-10-1999, 08:14 PM
Cecil on sneezing after orgasm:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_191.html

AHunter3
09-11-1999, 12:47 AM
OfficeGirl: what in the world does that mean??

'does' your sinus passages?

with what?

Read Mac's post, second from the top.



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TubaDiva
09-11-1999, 08:22 PM
I always thought this would be filed under "strange stories of love and sex," but the way this thread is going, maybe not . . .

I had a lover that would instantly get erect if I brushed my hand over his earlobe . . . would orgasm if I blew into his ear . . . . Without fail. He couldn't help it. He would also spasm uncontrollably for a few minutes, which made the deal, um, interesting for me as well.

It was a power I used judiciously . . .and only for good. (Okay, my good, mostly. Although he didn't complain. Not one single time.)

Never met anybody like this before . . . or since. Unfortunately, everything else about him was such that the relationship didn't last, but it was quite a time while it did.

Guess he was wired differently or something.

Anybody ever observed this in the field for themselves?

your humble TubaDiva

TVeblen
09-11-1999, 09:03 PM
Uhh...okay...ever consider that it's a very individual matter vs "gay/straight"? Reading the thread, seems to me that this is so quirky (makes the world go 'round!) that we all just have to grit our collective teeth and apply the scientific method and experiement! Be brave, give your all for science...
Seems to me that there are so many levels of physicolgical, societal, cultural and individual factors (AHEM!) that the only possible recourse is common sense. Scrag shyness (why else did you get into this interesting predicament?), try for it, and listen for the reaction. Not to simplify or anything here, but there just IS not indiividual activity. Experiment, go with the results, and seek out further frontiers.
Can't believe I just wrote that.
Anyway, ears, nipples, insteps or whatever, if this ain't intimacy, why're botherin' ?
(Newbie here; is this really what this board is all about?)

typertrphy
09-11-1999, 10:36 PM
<sigh> god bless this board>>ROFL. I cannot stop quiverring when my lover licks my ears, or throat. Nipples? Right on, I about died the first time she took on into her mouth and went to town. Nobody had ever done that before.....

It's not the gear, it's how it's wired !

Typer

Whammo
09-12-1999, 01:10 PM
definatly not a nipple guy! I get no pleasure sensations from it at all actually, if anything just some pain.
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Athena - Hell, I wasn't even allowed to touch him anywhere near or on his spine. He said he couldn't stand it.
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so your into spine sex are you? what does that mean? Thats a new one on me!

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Zyada
09-12-1999, 01:29 PM
Back to the original question...

Matt - a lot of the really steamy romance novels go into loving detail about men's nipples.

Fretful Porpentine
09-12-1999, 03:34 PM
definatly not a nipple guy! I get no pleasure sensations from it at all actually, if anything just some pain.

Pain? From what, exactly? Unless your partner was scratching or biting your nipples (definitely not kosher, IMHO, unless the guy asks for it), playing with them shouldn't hurt.

As for "spinal sex" -- I don't know about men, but in women the base of the spine is one of the most sensitive areas of the body. MMMMMMM!!!

tracer
09-12-1999, 07:18 PM
OfficeGirl wrote:

I can orgasm just by having someone play with my nipples.

That reminds me:

A while ago, a hermaphrodite I'd started dating (before she told me she was a hermaphrodite) told me that some women can have an orgasm simply by having an attractive male hairdresser wash their hair in warm water.

I've always wondered if, in these cases, the woman wasn't sitting with her legs crossed and moving in such a way as to give herself a little bit of clitoral stimulation....

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DougC
09-13-1999, 08:13 AM
- - - Somebody here is going to jump your case anyhow, so I'll ask: did you keep on dating her after you knew? What was the extent of her condition? - MC

kellibelli
09-13-1999, 09:27 AM
cool...

Give us all the dirty details!
(hey...they brought it up!)

Athena
09-13-1999, 01:00 PM
B_Line12:

hehehee, spine sex. No, not into spine sex, but given the standard missionary position, it's kinda hard to completely avoid touching the spine at times. Plus, someone gave us a book on sensual massage for a wedding gift. One of the most basic moves mentioned involved touching the spine & massaging the muscles on either side. I was all excited about this book, wanting to try it out, and it was a definite turn off when he looked through it and said "Yeah, let's do it as long as we don't do the spine move, and this one is off limits, too, and this doesn't look fun..." It basically came down to giving him a hand job - something that, although pleasurable, isn't exactly what I would call a whole-body sensual massage.

I didn't even realize how much this stuff bugged me until post-divorce. I'm now dating a guy who is pretty much open to anything, and our sex life is WAY more fun!

Girl Next Door
09-13-1999, 07:24 PM
A while ago, a hermaphrodite I'd started dating (before she told me she was a hermaphrodite) told me that some women can have an orgasm simply by having an attractive male hairdresser wash their hair in warm water.

I have a friend who can do that. She's not a hermaphrodite, either. But boy, oh, boy does she like to go to the beauty parlor!!!

matt_mcl
09-13-1999, 09:53 PM
A while ago, a hermaphrodite I'd started dating (before she told me she was a hermaphrodite) told me that some women can have an orgasm simply by having an attractive male hairdresser wash their hair in warm water.

I know what you mean. I don't actually orgasm during this, but mmmmm, boy...

JoltSucker
09-14-1999, 04:05 PM
I dunno about you, but getting my hair shampooed by an attractive woman can be pretty erotic.

On the subject of wierd erogenous zones, back in my college days I dated a girl who liked me to nibble on her armpits. I think I read somewhere that there are submerged vestigal nipples that run up toward the armpit area, so this might explain why she enjoyed it so much. I did get over the nasty taste of antipersperant after a while...

tracer
09-14-1999, 09:31 PM
MC wrote, re my dating a hermaphrodite:

Somebody here is going to jump your case anyhow, so I'll ask: did you keep on dating her after you knew? What was the extent of her condition?

Well ... er ... she didn't tell me she was a hermaphrodite until we were at the point where I was about to find out anyway, if you get my meaning. &lt;blush&gt;

She had ovaries, and fallopian tubes, and a uterus, and a cervix ... and a scrotum, and one undescended and one partially descended pseudo-testis, and what she called a "micropenis." She'd been raised as a male and lived that way for about 36 years until she discovered a Usenet newsgroup called alt.transgendered. At the time I met her, she had been on estrogens for about a year and had switched her "legal gender" a few months ago, in preparation for getting sex-reassignment surgery (a "sex change" operation) which would make her a complete woman. (Anyone applying for sex-reassignment surgery in the U.S. has to live as their "target gender" for at least 1 year prior to going under the knife.)

And, well -- in the Silicon Valley where I live, unmarried men outnumber unmarried women by a large margin, maybe as much as 2-to-1. So, being in the middle of this dating wasteland, I stayed with her. I dumped her six months later, not because of her plumbing but because she was a total flake who stood me up for our dates (without the courtesy of calling up and cancelling) more often than she showed up for them!

Interestingly, the next woman I dated also turned out to be a hermaphrodite, but this second one had already been through most of the sex-reassignment surgery and was a complete woman. She also had a regular boyfriend, though, which kinda put a damper on our dating.

None of the women I've dated since then have been hermaphrodites -- to my knowledge.

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Persephone
09-14-1999, 09:51 PM
My husband didn't know how sensitive his nipples were until he met me. :) He swore that no woman had ever really paid any attention to them. I couldn't imagine ignoring them. I mean, they're right there, fercryinoutloud. I found a few other erogenous zones he didn't realize he had, either. Cripes...for a musician, he had a pretty dull sex life before he met me. ;)

Like many of the other posters here, my ears & the small of my back are really sensitive. Not sensitive enough to take me all the way to the moon, but a darn good start.

DougC
09-15-1999, 07:52 AM
- - - I'm not trying to make fun of you, Tracer, but jeez, what are the odds of finding two herms in a row? Was the second one the first one's sister? I am wondering, maybe they go to that particular woman-starved area to better their chances? - - - I haven't heard of anybody I've met to be like that - I have heard a couple of girls (over the years) who are especially small up there and large down there. I was interested, they weren't. - MC

clvn
09-15-1999, 11:36 PM
Actually the nasal passages are not an erogenous zone per se: There is an evolutionary remnant (from when we were all crap-flinging tree dwellers), such that our nasal passages expand in response to sexual excitement, thereby allowing us more opportunity to inspire pheromones (Chemical cues/hormones not detected by our sense of smell, but by other unconscious means)This explains sneezing after sex... I actually have allergies to lots of dust, and well, I have experience in this area; often sneezing before any actual sexual contact (quite funny, actually...)

AHunter3
06-16-2001, 04:03 PM
If you had asked me if I had ever, in the history of the board, said anything as silly as

I love it when a groovy chick does my sinus passages!

...I'd have said "no way, absolutely not". :o

Carina42
06-16-2001, 05:11 PM
Well...some men like their nipples played with, so I do it (& enjoy it, too!) Some...like my SO, find it a completely neutral zone. Because I like to please him, I concentrate on all the other yummy parts he likes having touched. ;)

My ex-husband had very sensitive nipples...so I happily obliged!

Perhaps some straight women don't think that some men find it erotic...& the men don't tell them. It's all about communication, I guess.

TheLoadedDog
06-16-2001, 05:26 PM
Sorry, I don't have a cite for this, but last week my brother was telling me about "an erogenous zone in the nose". He said it is stimulated when we roll over at night, and that is its function. If we didn't have it, we'd sleep in one position all night, which would be dangerous.

Carina42
06-16-2001, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by clvn
Actually the nasal passages are not an erogenous zone per se: <snip> well, I have experience in this area; often sneezing before any actual sexual contact (quite funny, actually...)

About 10 years ago, a British book aimed at very small children attempted to explain orgasms as similar to the urge to sneeze. It was fairly controversal...personally, I don't think 6 year olds (can, or...) need to understand orgasms anyway.

I've never associated sneezing with orgasms in any way, though both feel good when you do it!

irishgirl
06-16-2001, 07:36 PM
nipples...hmmm
different strokes for different folks?
handy hint...if they're pierced he'd probably like them played with!!
i personally don't get off on the breast kick at all...which is a pity because i have good ones!
but i LOVE having my neck and shoulders bitten. hard.
looking down at the bruises gives me a thrill the rest of the week...

matt_mcl
06-23-2001, 02:45 AM
The nose does not have an erogenous zone per se, but it has a structure called the erectile tissue of the turbinates, which get engorged with blood when other structures are too, if you follow me. See Cece's column on sneezeful orgasms.

Esprix
06-23-2001, 03:52 AM
So this woman is sitting in the waiting room of a doctor's office, when the guy next to her sneezes. She's just about to say, "God bless you," when they guy takes out a tissue, wipes his nose, and then sticks the tissue down his pants, dabs, and throws the tissue away! Well obviously she's a little taken aback by that, but she doesn't say anything. Sure enough, the guy sneezes, and does the same thing - dabs his nose, then dabs down his pants. She's just about to get up and move to another seat when the guy notices her. "Oh, I'm terribly sorry, I suppose I should explain," he says. "You see, I have this affliction that whenever I sneeze, I also orgasm at the same time."

"Oh, my goodness," says the woman, now somewhat ashamed that she thought the worst of this guy. "How awful for you! Are you taking anything for it?"

"Yes," says the man. "Pepper."

:D

Esprix

CalMeacham
06-23-2001, 11:38 AM
As 've mentioned before, I cannot stand to have my nipples touched. It's roughly equivalent to fingernails on a blackboard, or chewing a mouthful of tinfoil.

Guinastasia
06-23-2001, 12:17 PM
Sure, why not?

BTW, I've heard that the palms of one's hands are also somewhat erogenous...makes sense...since your hands are very sensitive...

ThisYearsGirl
06-23-2001, 12:43 PM
Relatin' to the OP, just a little, this boy I regularly hooked up with once wanted me to lick his armpits. And the thing is, if you had told me the day before that a cute boy wanted me to lick his armpits, no matter how arousing it was, I would been grossed out and said, "No way am I doing that!" But for some reason, in the situation, I actually did, and I didn't mind it at all.