robert_columbia
10-31-2010, 07:51 PM
(This question is NOT intended to involve the merits of Affirmative Action programs, or serve as a soapbox for either pro or anti viewpoints)
In the US, Affirmative Action basically means that those who are making hiring and student admission decisions are to look at the race and gender of the people they are evaluating, so as to give minorities and women a better shot. Of course, some white men dislike this because they have to deal with potentially being passed up by a lesser qualified woman or minority due to some historical discrimination that wasn't the white guy's fault to begin with.
Religion is protected under US discrimination laws (i.e. with a few narrow exceptions, a hiring manager selecting a candidate for Sales Lead cannot decide to prefer Muslims over any other religion, but there is a noticible absence of religion being used as a basis for "affirmative action".
Are there any instances of religious affirmative action in the US or in other western countries? I'm guessing that the answer is no, because if there was religious affirmative action in the US, it would be easy to abuse because of the very liquid and vague definition of "religion" that the courts have provided us. Under our current laws, one could probably argue successfully that "Independent Fundamental Baptists who refuse to work on Sunday and bar women from leadership positions" constitutes a separate religion from "Independent Fundamental Baptists who refuse to work on Sunday but permit women to hold leadership positions", which would be a separate religion from "Independent Fundamental Baptists who believe whether or not working on Sunday is entrusted to the good faith of the follower, and permit women to hold leadership positions only if their father or husband is already a leader". If we required companies to have quotas for all of these categories, the result would obviously be absurd. The task of classifying groups of religions in order to make them share quotas would be fraught with difficulty and lawsuits as people objected to their classification. E.g. "I am a Baptist with a doctrinal belief against the use of musical instruments in worship. I refuse to be classified alongside and share a quota with those apostate hellbound Baptists who use guitars."
In the US, Affirmative Action basically means that those who are making hiring and student admission decisions are to look at the race and gender of the people they are evaluating, so as to give minorities and women a better shot. Of course, some white men dislike this because they have to deal with potentially being passed up by a lesser qualified woman or minority due to some historical discrimination that wasn't the white guy's fault to begin with.
Religion is protected under US discrimination laws (i.e. with a few narrow exceptions, a hiring manager selecting a candidate for Sales Lead cannot decide to prefer Muslims over any other religion, but there is a noticible absence of religion being used as a basis for "affirmative action".
Are there any instances of religious affirmative action in the US or in other western countries? I'm guessing that the answer is no, because if there was religious affirmative action in the US, it would be easy to abuse because of the very liquid and vague definition of "religion" that the courts have provided us. Under our current laws, one could probably argue successfully that "Independent Fundamental Baptists who refuse to work on Sunday and bar women from leadership positions" constitutes a separate religion from "Independent Fundamental Baptists who refuse to work on Sunday but permit women to hold leadership positions", which would be a separate religion from "Independent Fundamental Baptists who believe whether or not working on Sunday is entrusted to the good faith of the follower, and permit women to hold leadership positions only if their father or husband is already a leader". If we required companies to have quotas for all of these categories, the result would obviously be absurd. The task of classifying groups of religions in order to make them share quotas would be fraught with difficulty and lawsuits as people objected to their classification. E.g. "I am a Baptist with a doctrinal belief against the use of musical instruments in worship. I refuse to be classified alongside and share a quota with those apostate hellbound Baptists who use guitars."