Doom doom doom...doomy doom doom.

[Cammacdon]

We are all doomed you do know that right? I could go in depth, by why bother? just look around. Ignorant robber barons in control of the government, An endless army of religious lunatics willing to blow you up in the name of allah/jesus/whatever. and you and i and everyone else with nothing to do about it. go on and bitch about it and vote new politicians in. Its not like it doesn't work right?...oh wait.

There is no light at the end of this tunnel. America is screwed, and so am I and you. Forget that lying coward Obama and his hope and change. the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now. so put on your tinfoil hat and pray to santa jesus to save you. The age of reason is over. Just try to gather some books to read before the evangelicals burn them all. and sing it with me!

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..

[drachillix]

I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter..

[Lobsang]

The thing is - no matter how messed up things get with the world. No matter how crazy things are. None of it ends up effecting the day-to-day running of my life. If It weren't for 24 hour rolling news and internet message boards it would be as if none of it is happening at all.

[Morgenstern]

That's it. I'm selling the farm. Anyone want a used farm?

edit...
cheap...

[Cammacdon]

just burn the crops. easier.

[blondebear]

That's it. I'm selling the farm. Anyone want a used farm?

edit...
cheap...I'm not ready to buy the farm right now.

[Really Not All That Bright]

That's it. I'm selling the farm. Anyone want a used farm?
Does it come with a bridge?

[John Mace]

We are all doomed you do know that right? I could go in depth, by why bother? just look around. Ignorant robber barons in control of the government, An endless army of religious lunatics willing to blow you up in the name of allah/jesus/whatever. and you and i and everyone else with nothing to do about it. go on and bitch about it and vote new politicians in. Its not like it doesn't work right?...oh wait.

There is no light at the end of this tunnel. America is screwed, and so am I and you. Forget that lying coward Obama and his hope and change. the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now. so put on your tinfoil hat and pray to santa jesus to save you. The age of reason is over. Just try to gather some books to read before the evangelicals burn them all. and sing it with me!

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..

What's worse is there is apparently a shortage of capital letters! :eek:

[slumtrimpet]

The thing is - no matter how messed up things get with the world. No matter how crazy things are. None of it ends up effecting the day-to-day running of my life. If It weren't for 24 hour rolling news and internet message boards it would be as if none of it is happening at all.

Well, actually, it does effects my life directly - and I don't even live in the good ol' USA anymore. When I fly there to visit my family I have to submit to all sorts of idiotic rules and regulation and indignities. I have to pay a fuckload more for my plane ticket because of all the rules and regulations and upcharges for god only knows what including "security" among others. I can't fill a bottle of water and take it on the flight with me. I have to cough up $4 to purchase one after I go through "security". (it's a little thing but it pisses me off every time)

The economy of my adopted country is going into the shitter because it's so closely tied to the grand fuck-up that's going on down below the 49th where they're pissing money away on adventures all over the place. That means my cost of living is getting higher. And my adopted country feels obliged to join in the adventuring so, rather than the hefty chunk of taxes I pay going to things that might improve my life (like road infrastructure or social programs) it's being pissed away killing brown people.

If I did still live in the USA I'd be royally fucked because I couldn't afford health insurance when I was there (self employed very small business owner) and I have had a few minor health issue in the interim. I'd be well in debt if I'd stayed there. Rather glad I bailed. But the cost of health insurance does impact my offspring which means I get to subsidize them.

And that's just off the top of my head.

So yeah, the robber barons and the lunatics are having an effect on me personally.

Fuckers.

[drachillix]

Does it come with a bridge?

No but there is a swamp if you needed someplace to put your existing bridge.

[Euphonious Polemic]

On the upside, I just got AngryBirds for my iPod touch, so I've got that going for me.

[Cat Whisperer]

You forgot about global warming/climate change, overpopulation, loss of fresh water, and nuclear proliferation. And pine beetles.

[Der Trihs]

You forgot about global warming/climate change, overpopulation, loss of fresh water, and nuclear proliferation. And pine beetles.
Antibiotic resistant diseases, old plagues returning thanks to the antivaxers, oil running out, the oceans becoming anoxic, fishery depletion, eroding topsoil...

[cuauhtemoc]

Yeah well, whaddya gonna do?

[Implicit]

The age of reason is over.
Damn, I must have blinked. :(

[descamisado]

...global warming/climate change, overpopulation, loss of fresh water, and nuclear proliferation. And pine beetles.Antibiotic resistant diseases, old plagues returning thanks to the antivaxers, oil running out, the oceans becoming anoxic, fishery depletion, eroding topsoil...♫ Just a ball of confusion ♫

[John Mace]

Antibiotic resistant diseases, old plagues returning thanks to the antivaxers, oil running out, the oceans becoming anoxic, fishery depletion, eroding topsoil...

Bed bugs.

[Miller]

...Simon Cowell leaving American Idol...

[Blank Slate]

Maybe the internet wasn't such a great idea.

[Gatopescado]

I thought this was the new bass riff of the new Snoop Dogg release.

[XT]

Not only that but 2012 is right around the corner. Add to that a rumor I heard about dogs and cats living together and the outlook is certainly grim...

-XT

[Enderw24]

Doom doom doom

Let's go back to my room.
so we can do it all night.
And you can make me feel right.

[Cat Whisperer]

You forgot about global warming/climate change, overpopulation, loss of fresh water, and nuclear proliferation. And pine beetles.

Antibiotic resistant diseases, old plagues returning thanks to the antivaxers, oil running out, the oceans becoming anoxic, fishery depletion, eroding topsoil...

♫ Just a ball of confusion ♫
I was thinking more along the lines of, "We didn't start this fiiiiii-iiiiire." :)

[Darth Nader]

Well, it's got a good beat and you can dance to it.

Two thumbs up.

[zoid]

We are all doomed you do know that right? I could go in depth, by why bother? just look around. Ignorant robber barons in control of the government, An endless army of religious lunatics willing to blow you up in the name of allah/jesus/whatever. and you and i and everyone else with nothing to do about it. go on and bitch about it and vote new politicians in. Its not like it doesn't work right?...oh wait.

There is no light at the end of this tunnel. America is screwed, and so am I and you. Forget that lying coward Obama and his hope and change. the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now. so put on your tinfoil hat and pray to santa jesus to save you. The age of reason is over. Just try to gather some books to read before the evangelicals burn them all. and sing it with me!

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..

Aw, don't be like that - LOOK, I just found you a new best friend (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=571154)!

[Alessan]

I thought this was the new bass riff of the new Snoop Dogg release.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be sung like the Two and a Half Men title song.

[Darth Nader]

I thought it was the "Zoom" song from 1975 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZOOM_%281972_TV_series%29) or so.

[Sefton]

There's too many men! Too many people! Making too many problems!

Personally, I blame it all on the bees. This whole mess would never have happened if the bees weren't disappearing. Like rats jumping off a sinking ship, those bees.

[Staale Nordlie]

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..
Gir? Is that you? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ)

[Rune]

With your handle I thought the thread was about the climate summit in Cancun.

[Staggerlee]

Baldrick? Is that you? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLybS4jKSCE

[Jackmannii]

For those planning to hole up in that mountain cabin awaiting Armageddon, remember that kindly Jackmannii will accept your valuable earthly goods (you don't want to be weighed down as Doom approaches).

[Count Blucher]

"Eh... Boss? Boss? Why's it always Us has ta save the world from Ice Dragons, Medusas, and weak-willed people controlled by undead lizards???"

[MrDibble]

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..Disaster always sounds better in the original Old Entish!

[The Tao's Revenge]

♪♪You forgot about global warming/climate change, overpopulation, loss of fresh water, and nuclear proliferation. And pine beetles.
Antibiotic resistant diseases, old plagues returning thanks to the antivaxers, oil running out, the oceans becoming anoxic, fishery depletion, eroding topsoil...

It's the end of world as we know it and I feel fine!♫

[Morgenstern]

... the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now....

I think I'd like the story better if it was Clinton and Palin. The press possibilities for something like "Palin takes borrowed $20,000 dress to cleaners for a stubborn stain" or "Monica and Sarah tell all" would be more fun than "Obama to visit Washington D.C. in May."

[LonesomePolecat]

It don't bother me none. I'll just get raptured* and go to heaven to live with Jesus. I hear he's got hisself the latest Xbox and Wii!

*Or get ruptured and have to wear a truss. The print was all blurry on that Jack Chick tract, and I don't rightly know exactly what he was sayin' ...

[Really Not All That Bright]

Satan has PS3.

[Clothahump]

There is no light at the end of this tunnel. America is screwed, and so am I and you. Forget that lying coward Obama and his hope and change. the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now. so put on your tinfoil hat and pray to santa jesus to save you. The age of reason is over. Just try to gather some books to read before the evangelicals burn them all. and sing it with me!

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..

Ya know....today is not the best of days. I'm trying very hard not to be sick with the first cold of the winter and I feel miserable. And I gotta teach class today.

But I can always count on finding someone, somewhere on Teh Interwebz who is so fucked up in so many ways that I suddenly feel better, probably from the giant belly laugh I had at their expense. And today, it was you, Camm.

[XT]

Schadenfreude...it isn't just for breakfast anymore...

-XT

[BrainGlutton]

We are all doomed you do know that right? I could go in depth, by why bother? just look around. Ignorant robber barons in control of the government, An endless army of religious lunatics willing to blow you up in the name of allah/jesus/whatever. and you and i and everyone else with nothing to do about it. go on and bitch about it and vote new politicians in. Its not like it doesn't work right?...oh wait.

There is no light at the end of this tunnel. America is screwed, and so am I and you. Forget that lying coward Obama and his hope and change. the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now. so put on your tinfoil hat and pray to santa jesus to save you. The age of reason is over. Just try to gather some books to read before the evangelicals burn them all. and sing it with me!

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..

The word "doom" hardly applies to the prospect of things remaining the same.

[rhubarbarin]

Huh. I actually feel like I have a better chance at a long and fairly happy life than about 90% of the people who have ever lived.

[Drunky Smurf]

*snip*
the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now.
*snip*

What's worse is there is apparently a shortage of capital letters! :eek:

*snip*
I can't fill a bottle of water and take it on the flight with me. I have to cough up $4 to purchase one after I go through "security".
*snip*

Just like the good baby Jesus wanted.

[Lumpy]

We are all doomed you do know that right? I could go in depth, by why bother? just look around. Ignorant robber barons in control of the government, An endless army of religious lunatics willing to blow you up in the name of allah/jesus/whatever. and you and i and everyone else with nothing to do about it. go on and bitch about it and vote new politicians in. Its not like it doesn't work right?...oh wait.

There is no light at the end of this tunnel. America is screwed, and so am I and you. Forget that lying coward Obama and his hope and change. the world belongs to people like Sarah Palin and George Bush now. so put on your tinfoil hat and pray to santa jesus to save you. The age of reason is over. Just try to gather some books to read before the evangelicals burn them all. and sing it with me!

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..Whiner.

[Lemur866]

Right, and there's ABSOLUTELY nothing anyone can do to improve the situation. It's hopeless. Worse than any time in the history of history. Worse than World War II, the Depression, and the Civil War rolled into one. Worse than the Black Death, the Mongol Hordes, the K-T impact and both the Deccan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_traps) and Siberian Traps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Traps). Time to pull out your pistol and put a bullet in your brain and pray for the sweet oblivion of death.

Yes indeedy.

[Jenaroph]

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..

Disaster always sounds better in the original Old Entish!

Hoom hoom hoom, hooomy hoomy hoom...

[Ike Witt]

Cheer up Brian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ).

[SteveG1]

Yeah, we're all doomed. Just like always. It's the end of the world. Just like it's always been. These are the worst of times. Just like all the other worst times. :D

[The Surb]

Gloom, despair and agony on me (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ5ob9B9yD4)
Deep dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all
Gloom, despair and agony on me

[Darth_Hamsandwich]

Cheer up Brian (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ).

No, no, no. It's Cheer up Charlie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95P1P6t9dAw).


Sheesh!

[Chefguy]

Right, and there's ABSOLUTELY nothing anyone can do to improve the situation. It's hopeless. Worse than any time in the history of history. Worse than World War II, the Depression, and the Civil War rolled into one. Worse than the Black Death, the Mongol Hordes, the K-T impact and both the Deccan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deccan_traps) and Siberian Traps (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_Traps). Time to pull out your pistol and put a bullet in your brain and pray for the sweet oblivion of death.

Yes indeedy.

Ah, so you've heard Justin Bieber sing then?

[Guinastasia]

Ah, so you've heard Justin Bieber sing then?

*shudder*

(Fortunately, I have yet to experience such torture. And I'm quite happy with that)

[John Mace]

Hoom hoom hoom, hooomy hoomy hoom...

My, but you are the hasty one!

[Carmady]

Nobody expected America to last forever. We actually lasted longer than history would have suggested.

But yeah, it's over. We only recently made the move to an unabashed kleptocracy. The ruling class knows it is over, and their last move is to finish up robbing the corpse and then get as far away as possible.

[Darth Nader]

I bet you're a lot of fun at parties, Carmady.

[elucidator]

A dump truck was rolling down the street, past my window, as I read that. Inexplicably, it began to sob.

[Der Trihs]

Yeah, we're all doomed. Just like always. It's the end of the world. Just like it's always been. These are the worst of times. Just like all the other worst times. :D
Not actually that good of an argument. After all, sometimes nations and civilizations really have collapsed or been destroyed. Sometimes the doomsayers are right. Either because of the "a stopped clock is right twice a day" effect, or just because they really were more perceptive than others.

[Leaper]

Doom doom doom, doomy doom dooooom..

... Come and go with me...

Come and go with me...

[Count Blucher]

... Come and go with me...

Come and go with me...


Win. :D

[Annie-Xmas]

It's amazing how long the world's been going to hell in a handbasket without actually getting there. It's like an invalid that refuses to die.

[tomndebb]

...Simon Cowell leaving American Idol...I thought this was a list of BAD things?

[Colibri]

I grew up in the 1950s and 1960s. In second grade we had "duck-and-cover" drills in case of nuclear attack which consisted of us crouching down in the corridor and holding our heads. When I was 11, during the Cuban missile crisis, we joked in the schoolyard about every plane that came over that it was a Russian bomber coming to blow us all away.

I've been doomed for a long time. It's just a different doom every decade.;)

[suranyi]

My grandmother had eight siblings. Seven of them were killed at Auschwitz. Yet she lived to be 100 years old, and saw first her children, and then her grandchildren, become successful, prosperous adults.

When I think about how she suffered, and those of her generation, and how much we've accomplished since then, and how good my life is compared to hers, I can't be a pessimist.

[BubbaDog]

Well, doomy is just moody spelled backwards so we can take that and...... Wait-a-minnit! No it isn't.

Shit!

Might as well just lay down in the hog pen and die.


And the world held so much promise today, it being TGIF and all.

[Morgenstern]

Not so Bubba. TGIF only means another damn hangover tomorrow. We're doomed.

[John Mace]

It's amazing how long the world's been going to hell in a handbasket without actually getting there. It's like an invalid that refuses to die.

It's about the journey, not the destination.

[Der Trihs]

It's amazing how long the world's been going to hell in a handbasket without actually getting there.Nah; it started in hell. It just took a tour though Purgatory for a while and is now headed back home.

[fuzzypickles]

Ignorant robber barons in control of the government, An endless army of religious lunatics willing to blow you up in the name of allah/jesus/whatever.
How is today's situation any different from the days of John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Jackson, Richard III, Genghis Khan, Caligula Caesar, the Hyksos invasion, etc...?

The world hasn't gotten worse. Instead, the news coverage has gotten better.

[Biggirl]

Shouldn't it be Doomy doom doom, doomy doom doom dooooooom? Or am I thinking of a different musical harbinger of the last judgment?

[zoid]

How is today's situation any different from the days of John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Jackson, Richard III, Genghis Khan, Caligula Caesar, the Hyksos invasion, etc...?

The world hasn't gotten worse. Instead, the news coverage has gotten better.

So has the beer, so we got that going for us.

[LouisB]

What's worse is there is apparently a shortage of capital letters! :eek:Well, when we say "all is lost," the loss of capital letters must be included.

[buckgully]

On the bright side, we got to rain doom down upon the filthy heads of our doomed enemies.

Wait. I mean...

I love Earth!

[elucidator]

A new life awaits you in the Off-World colonies. The chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure....

[Count Blucher]

Nah; it started in hell. It just took a tour though Purgatory for a while and is now headed back home.

"...and we're coming into the far stretch with Satan firmly in the lead..." ;)

[Unintentionally Blank]

Hey Guys! Look! Puppies! (http://bit.ly/gd1ru5)

[WarmNPrickly]

Doom, doom, dooma, doom!
C'mon and doom, doom, dooma, doom.
Everybody!
Doom, doom, dooma, doom!

Ubi thubink thubat thube wuborld ubis duboomed!

I wanna doom, doom, dooma, doom!

[gonzomax]

http://cuteoverload.com/ This is a good time for "cute overload".

[Cammacdon]

How is today's situation any different from the days of John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Jackson, Richard III, Genghis Khan, Caligula Caesar, the Hyksos invasion, etc...?

The world hasn't gotten worse. Instead, the news coverage has gotten better.

its completely different. Comparing dangerous people now to dangerous people hundreds or thousands of years ago is ignorant in ways that stagger even my vivid imagination. I was in a very bad mood when i started this shit but more or less i meant it. America at least is fucked like a ten dollar whore at a navy base. I only call for giving up because there's no other intelligent solution. Why fight a losing battle? Its stupid. People like Barack Obama say elect me and ill change things and what happens? He bails out mega rich investment bankers, Does not end these useless inflammatory wars and never commits to one single go damned decision he promised to make. Same old shit. And yet you morons vote them in and think you can work through the system. News flash morons! the system was created for THEM: The bankers, the businessmen and the politicians. It was made by them and for them and no one else.

these ridiculous bailouts, hundreds of billions of dollars just fucking handed over to these business criminal assholes in a time of economic collapse! Holy fucking shit what does it take to convince you apes that you are being played for fools? Do they actually have to have the words "bad guy" or "evil fuck" tattooed onto their foreheads?

One idea, one idea that can fix things, one idea that couldn't fail but could never be implemented. A mass protest. I don't mean march around with signs, that's more worthless than anything. I mean just stop. Literally. Don't go to work. Don't buy anything. don't give these people anymore power. Stop feeding the monster. Hunt our own meat raise our own crops make our own dvd players, Generate our own energy. It sounds hard but it isn't most of technology is over 100 years old or older. Its not hard if everyone has a little courage. that's the only way to kill an oppressive regime with limitless power and no accountability whatsoever. Everything else is just a mask. Another new face for the same old creature that has been around since the dawn of civilization itself.

The truth is, the only thing that keeps despots in power is your fear of them. If the masses could be rallied and motivated to demand their fair share, nothing could stand up to such a force. We would be legions before the few an endless ocean before few drops of water. But that will not happen. Why? because there is no man or group either able or willing to do so. And never will be. I wish i could do it, but i don't understand people any better than i understand how the computer I'm using now actually works. Also, I am far too impatient to try and make them understand that they are being manipulated or convince them to think intellectually instead of emotionally.

So i sing my doom song and plan to watch it all burn down. Because, in my eyes there is nothing else for a conscious individual to do. I wont participate int he system and become something i hate. Nor will i waste my time trying to convince the willingly ignorant to see the blatantly obvious.

So call me a doomsayer if you want.( i did say "doom" a bunch of times) But to me its not paranoid rambling but obvious facts.The only difference between you and me is that I was lied to and betrayed more than most, and as a consequence, I know bullshit when i see it.

So by all means, be sarcastic, mock me. I don't give a shit and i am tired.

[suranyi]

Hunt our own meat raise our own crops make our own dvd players, Generate our own energy. It sounds hard but it isn't most of technology is over 100 years old or older.

DVD players are 100 years old?

[Cat Whisperer]

There are many theories on how to fix our broken systems; they're all wrong.

[Cammacdon]

DVD players are 100 years old?

i said most most you fucking imbecile learn to read.

the basic technology needed to generate electricity is. or close to it. And even if i was wrong you could tell me and for good measure say why. but you're just acting like an idiot, trying to be cute. Like all my life nothing but the same sarcastic bullshit.

If you take issue with what i post, then do so in a manner that at least looks like something i should take seriously. This crap is just weak. If I'm wrong point it out to me with facts but don't be cute with me, it destroys whatever small credibility you ever had.

I try to ignore this crap but apes like you keep chucking this shit at me until the smell overwhelms me and i can feel the flames in my head cooking my brains, making me stupid like you.

[Unintentionally Blank]

its completely different. Comparing dangerous people now to dangerous people hundreds or thousands of years ago is ignorant in ways that stagger even my vivid imagination.

Your statements were all played out in the 60's. I suggest you get out there and change the world while you still know it all. :rolleyes:

[zoid]

See, the problem is that you assume everyone is just as unhappy and disillusioned as you are. For a whole lot of us things aren't all that bad. I'm not rich but I'm comfortable. And the "solution" you propose would change my life drastically for the worse.

The current system is not perfect. There are a great many people out of work right now. That's why we have safety nets built into the system to try and help them. It's why many folks like me who know we're lucky to be working don't mind at all if our tax dollars are spent to help these folks - it could be me someday I'd I like to think I'd get a little help.

I'm not pretending that those safetys are perfect or any part of our society is perfect but what you propose is not going to make life better, it will make life markedly worse. If you cannot see that then how about opening a Great Debates thread where you spell out the details of your brave new world and we can examine the finer points.

In the mean time - have a fuckin' beer and realax already.

P.S. - the digg against suranyi - totally uncalled for

[suranyi]

P.S. - the digg against suranyi - totally uncalled for

Thanks.

[suranyi]

i said most most you fucking imbecile learn to read.

the basic technology needed to generate electricity is. or close to it. And even if i was wrong you could tell me and for good measure say why. but you're just acting like an idiot, trying to be cute. Like all my life nothing but the same sarcastic bullshit.

If you take issue with what i post, then do so in a manner that at least looks like something i should take seriously. This crap is just weak. If I'm wrong point it out to me with facts but don't be cute with me, it destroys whatever small credibility you ever had.

I try to ignore this crap but apes like you keep chucking this shit at me until the smell overwhelms me and i can feel the flames in my head cooking my brains, making me stupid like you.

The facts are: You seem to be miserable but I am happy.

[Cammacdon]

Your statements were all played out in the 60's. I suggest you get out there and change the world while you still know it all. :rolleyes:

Yeah and i suppose you're an enlightened soul floating above us in a state of harmony with the universe right?. The funny thing is you suggest I am egocentric when your whole statement reeks of a superior attitude. Here's a tip next time you imply someone is a "know it all" make sure you don't sound like a complete pompous ass. If you think I'm wrong say say why. This isn't a political campaign, person attacks merit nothing.

zoid:
See, the problem is that you assume everyone is just as unhappy and disillusioned as you are. For a whole lot of us things aren't all that bad. I'm not rich but I'm comfortable. And the "solution" you propose would change my life drastically for the worse.

My answer: Sometimes strife is necessary. I never said it was an easy solution. I merely said it was the only solution I've ever seen as bringing any real change. You can have all the bloody revolutions, new elections and policy changes you want, but if the same super rich assholes control everything. Its just a new face for the same bullshit that's been around for thousands of years.

You prove my previous point. That no real change will ever come because most people only care for themselves and their own shallow comfort.

Why does everyone insist that I only say these things because I'm miserable? are you implying that I'm miserly? I stated an idea that i believe would help all people in america. I proposed showing the super wealthy that they cant treat people like shit and collect their money too. I called it a protest not a revolution. I did not mean to suggest the collapse and rebuilding of society. Doing the things i mentioned would threaten to destroy the power base (wealth) of the kinds of people responsible for many of our problems as a nation. Thus giving said people no other choice than to clean up their act or join us all in poverty. And since all such people care about is power and wealth it's plainly obvious what they would choose. I expressed an idea to make a truly effective protest. My point was that complaining does nothing against people who have no empathy or remorse.

You state plainly that my solution is wrong because it would inconvenience you personally. You never said why it wouldn't work if applied or how it could be more practical. You thought only of yourself. Yet I am the self centered one. The egomaniac. The misanthrope. I was suggesting an idea to improve my home country and as a consequence, improve my own life. Your thoughts didn't even go beyond your own front door.

But since i express my opinion in way that is hostile and angry, No one bothered to actually think about what i said. Focusing instead on how i said it. You interpret my hostility towards the way my country is run with personal hostility toward you, Hence the personal attacks and mockery of people like blank and the sarcastic jibes of suranyi. You are thinking from a completely self absorbed perspective. As i said in the previous post, i don't think these people are thinking from an objective, logical perspective.

I railed on suranyi because what she did pissed me off. And if you piss someone
off expect to be insulted. I did nothing to warrant such childish mockery other than have a different opinion. At least i think so since suranyi never actually posted any opinion. Blank may be a jerk, but at least he expressed an actual opinion. That one being that I am an asshole. Which is fine, i don't expect most anyone to like me and couldn't care less what they think. But don't criticize me for sending a personal attack of my own when they start the exchange.

[Unintentionally Blank]

I'm not the pompous ass in this thread...jus sayin'.


But since i express my opinion in way that is hostile and angry, No one bothered to actually think about what i said. Focusing instead on how i said it. You interpret my hostility towards the way my country is run with personal hostility toward you, Hence the personal attacks and mockery of people like blank and the sarcastic jibes of suranyi. You are thinking from a completely self absorbed perspective. As i said in the previous post, i don't think these people are thinking from an objective, logical perspective.

Nooo. I didn't bother debating your topic because you're _wrong_. Society is an emergent behavior. Knock one group down and the next group will take it's place. The reasoning for this is simple: A certain small subset of the population is selfish and sociopathic. Your bloody revolution will not improve things for any reasonable period of time, but it very well could end up getting people killed, I'd prefer to not be one of those people.

The Super Wealthy CAN treat people like shit and get away with it, mostly because the system is geared to create them and keep them there. Knock one down and another will just stand up to take their place.

Funny thing is, you make that sound like a BAD thing. There's space in this game for a few VERY Wealthy people, and they appear to be doing Very Good things. (tell me http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx is EEEEEVIL, go ahead)

[sevenwood]

Why does everyone insist that I only say these things because I'm miserable? are you implying that I'm miserly?

OK, here's a suggestion from someone who has been reading but not responding to this thread so far. Print out a copy of your posts (all of them, not just an edited sample) in this thread, give them to a friend to read, and have him/her tell you how you're coming across. Because you sure come across to me as being miserable.

Seriously, dude, you're depressed. You need help.

(I don't happen to agree with your premise at all, but everyone else is stating my case as well as I could.)

[Morgenstern]

do do doom, do do doom, do do doom doom doom,
do do doom, do do doom, do do doom doom doom,

Look Tonto, they are playing our song.

[RickJay]

Well, actually, it does effects my life directly - and I don't even live in the good ol' USA anymore. When I fly there to visit my family I have to submit to all sorts of idiotic rules and regulation and indignities. I have to pay a fuckload more for my plane ticket because of all the rules and regulations and upcharges for god only knows what including "security" among others. I can't fill a bottle of water and take it on the flight with me. I have to cough up $4 to purchase one after I go through "security". (it's a little thing but it pisses me off every time)
As irritating as it can be, try, honestly, to step back for a moment and think about how piddling and meaningless a complaint this is in the grand scheme of things.

We don't know how amazingly easy we have it. You're complaining about security steps that amount to a trifling inconvenience as you use the safest, fastest, most unbelievable awesome form of transportation ever devised by humans, which is available to everyone for an affordable price, allowing you to visit your family in a way that not long ago would have bene hopelessly impossible.

In a human story full of coutries that just fell apart completely or slaughtered their own inhabitants or enslaved them or collapsed into war and famine and chaos or watched smallpox carry away a quarter of the population, in a history where is is still true that the overhelming number of people who have ever lived lived a hand-to-mouth existence, your complaint is that you have to go through airport security and they take your bottle of water.

I'm not saying it isn't irritating. It absolutely is - I fly a lot and hate a lot about it. But contrast what you're saying with the OP saying the USA is doomed. Are you guys really talking about the same thing?

I've said it before and will say it again; anyone who thinks the USA is some sort of failed, broken state has never set foot in a failed, broken state. Or, for that matter, ever picked up a book on history. And I say that as someone who isn't an American and so has no stake of pride in the issue.

People like Barack Obama say elect me and ill change things and what happens? He bails out mega rich investment bankers
TARP was an initiative of the Bush administration. Honestly, this isn't like forgetting the details of the Spanish-American War; this happened TWO YEARS AGO. It was a big deal in the news.

The economy of my adopted country is going into the shitter because it's so closely tied to the grand fuck-up that's going on down below the 49th where they're pissing money away on adventures all over the place.
Canada has one of the steadiest, strongest economies in the world. You should feel very lucky you live here. Why you're complaining about living in the country that's weathered this storm the BEST, I can't even begin to comprehend. The country still runs fine. Most people have jobs, and the unemployment situation is getting better.

That means my cost of living is getting higher.
The inflation rate is just a hair over two percent, which is about normal.

And my adopted country feels obliged to join in the adventuring so, rather than the hefty chunk of taxes I pay going to things that might improve my life (like road infrastructure or social programs) it's being pissed away killing brown people.
Canada was morally obliged to go to war in Afghanistan. We're in NATO. We live up to our promises. It sucks that al-Qaida started a war with us and Afghanistan sheltered them, but perhaps you'd like to speak to my grandmother and read by grandfather's war journals from WW2 to see what it's like when things are BAD.

[suranyi]

I railed on suranyi because what she did pissed me off.

I'm a he. I've got a beautiful wife, and a wonderful baby son. That's why I'm so happy. Oh, and I've got a pretty good job too.

[Malleus, Incus, Stapes!]

Wait, I'm confused. People are blowing themselves up in the name of Jesus? When did this happen?

Also, kittens (http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1020&bih=619&q=kittens&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=f&oq=&gs_rfai=)!

[spenczar]

Morbo? Is that you (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz3t4bSDTNc)?

[Face Intentionally Left Blank]

Actually, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be sung like the Two and a Half Men title song.

Did I miss someone posting this, because I can't believe no one has.

The Doom Song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqcn_TPu4qQ

Edit: crap, post #29

[elucidator]

What you need is a bunch of unresolved minor chords and a unintelligible but vaguely diabolical chanting. So, fake Orff!