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Qadgop the Mercotan
12-20-2010, 06:10 PM
Most families seem to have a traditional pasta sauce recipe, handed down through the generation (from me when I was younger to me, now) or even further along than that. For many family members, this sauce may define just what spaghetti sauce is for them. For others, it may define what they want to make sure their sauce isn't.
So please join me in posting your most cherished sauce recipes!
Dadgops' spaghetti sauce recipe
NEED:
1 large onion
Olive oil, like 2 tbsp
1/2 lb ground beef
1/4 or so lb of ground/minced summer sausage or other alternate ground/chopped meat (if desired. Can just use beef)
Tomato Sauce, 29 oz can
Tomato paste, 12 oz can
Beef Consomme, Campbell's, one can
Water, about a half a cup
Lemon juice, 2 tbsp
Oregano 1/4 tsp
marjoram 1/4 tsp
basil 1/4 tsp
Parsley 2 tbsp
Bay leaf, one
Garlic, 2-4 cloves, minced
Vegemite/marmite 1 or so tbsp
ground pepper zero to 4 tsp
Brown one large onion, diced in olive oil. This takes time and requires some skill and attention. Heat the oil over medium heat, when it's nice and warm, dump the onion bits in, stir thoroughly for about a half minute to coat with oil, then cover, leaving the lid slightly ajar. Stir every 2-4 minutes, scraping up what's on the bottom. Once the water is mostly gone from the onion, start reducing the heat to low, lest they burn. But don't stir too much or they won't caramelize properly.
The browning process will take about a half hour, if done right.
Once the onions are nicely golden brown with most non-oil liquid gone, and they've been stirred up good, turn the heat to medium again, and in about a minute add 1/2 lb of ground beef, and about 1/4 lb or so of chopped up summer sausage, preferably jalapeno or or hungarian varieties but any will do. Stir briefly, then let brown for 2 or 3 minutes, then stir, and repeat, etc until most of the non-oil liquid has evaporated. Again, we want things to caramelize but not burn.
Once this state has been achieved, add a 29 oz can of tomato sauce, a 12 oz can of tomato paste, a can of Campbell's beef consomme, a half to 2/3 can of water, 2 tbsp lemon juice, 1 tbsp of vegemite or marmite, 1/4 tsp of basil, 1/4 tsp of marjoram, 1/4 tsp of oregano, and 2 tbsp of dried parsley. If you're not using a spicy sausage in the recipe, add pepper to taste (I like a tsp or four). Add a teaspoon or two of minced garlic, or 3 or so minced or crushed garlic cloves. (Don't sautee the garlic with the onion, it makes it bitter. If you're daring, try adding the garlic towards the end of the meat browning, to enhance the flavor without bitterness).
Stir the hell out of it with a whisk, as the marmite/vegemite needs encouragement to dissolve. Once everything is nicely stirred together, stick in a bay leaf, bring to a simmer, reduce to low, cover, and stir every once in a while to ensure it's not burning on the bottom. Let simmer at least an hour. Add liquid as needed, either water or low salt chicken broth. Remember, adding the summer sausage and vegemite and consomme already added a ton of salt to the recipe.
Optional alternative ingredients: Bits of sun dried tomatoes can enhance flavor. Or if you've got some nice yummy fresh tomatoes, consider adding a few of them, skinned, seeded, and chopped. Some folks like a dash of sugar, say a teaspoon or two, in the whole recipe, to counteract the acid from tomato and lemon. Greek olives and/or capers can be nice,too.
Consider adding other meats in place of summer sausage (but with the ground beef). Good choices can be ground pork, chopped bacon, minced ham, ground turkey, etc. One may also substitute ground turkey or ground or chunked chicken in the recipe for the beef. If doing so, use chicken broth to equal two cups instead of the consomme/water combo.
A teaspoon or so of MSG might be considered if not using consomme or summer sausage or vegemite.
Beyond that, go crazy, and see what you might like to adjust on your own.
Qadgop the Mercotan
12-21-2010, 10:28 AM
<<bump>>
I don't want this one to die as badly as my ill-conceived "Breakfast Lunch Fish" thread did.
DCnDC
12-21-2010, 10:53 AM
My family likes the shit out of a jar.
Something I make for myself is a simple dish of slivered onions, red pepper strips, olive oil and whatever white wine and herbs/spices happen to be handy, cooked and reduced down and served over linguine.
Sattua
12-21-2010, 11:12 AM
We doctor up the jarred sauce. The brand and variety of jarred stuff doesn't matter... it all ends up tasting the same.
Dice one onion. Sautee it in a T of oil with one pound of ground beef and a pinch of salt, until beef has lost pink color and onions are starting to go clear. Dump in one jar spaghetti sauce, then add a little less than a cup of water to the jar, shake it to get the remnants of sauce off the sides, and add that to the skillet. Add a liberal sprinkling of dried oregano... at least a teaspoon, probably more. Turn heat to medium/medium-lo, cover, and let simmer while your pasta cooks.
I like to double this amount of sauce to go with one pound of pasta, but since boxes of pasta are rarely a pound anymore, I haven't the last couple times.
Pleonast
12-21-2010, 11:17 AM
I'll never disclose the secret sauce recipe. Never!
Or whatever. There's not a written recipe per se, more like an oral tradition. (Note to self--start writing down recipes...)
You need extra-virgin olive oil, garlic, onion, tomato, tomato sauce, thyme, oregano, salt and sugar.
First put enough oil to thickly cover the bottom of a skillet (steel, not cast iron, and definitely not aluminum) and set it to low heat. Skin and roughly dice about a third of a garlic bulb, put in skillet and turn up heat to medium. Skin and rough dice about half of an onion bulb, put in skillet and turn heat up to high. Garlic should be nicely brown by that point. Wash and rough dice two tomatoes, put in skillet. Add small can of unsalted tomato sauce. Add generous amounts of thyme and oregano, more than a teaspoon, less than a tablespoon, each. Add a scant teaspoon of salt and sugar. Stir well, cover with lid, turn down to medium heat.
Check on it after five minutes or so, add water if too thick, or leave off lid if too watery. Total time is about 15 minutes, and makes enough for generous portions for two or small portions for four.
For extra fun, add sliced mushrooms or diced squash.
Superfluous Parentheses
12-21-2010, 11:24 AM
My very simple, light & quick vegetarian sauce goes something like this:
Finely chop a big bunch of flat-leaf parsley, a small onion & two smallish carrots. Heat oil in a pan, add everything and some salt (or don't add salt and add some chopped bacon instead if you like), stir on medium heat until the onion is soft. Add a can of chopped tomatoes. Heat through and simmer for 10 to 15 minutes.
Serve on spaghetti with some fresh chopped parsley or oregano, a little good olive oil and possibly some grated Parmesan.
Glory
12-21-2010, 02:29 PM
I make mine from scratch and prefer it to the jarred version.
Protein - ground turkey (browned as appropriate), turkey meatballs, also good with fake crab
Red onion, diced
Garlic (heaps)
Sweat onions, add garlic, brown meat (as appropriate)
In a food processor, I combine 3 cans of tomatoes, 1 bag sun dried tomato, small can tomato paste, fresh basil - pulse until thoroughly combined (husband does not like tomato lumps). Add to pot.
I add a splash of red wine, a little oregano and red pepper flakes. I don't really measure anything, but it usually turns out great! Super easy and quick to make.
gwendee
12-21-2010, 04:01 PM
Not every family does. When we moved to a heavily Italian neighborhood and my sister was becoming acquainted with the girl who would become one of her closest friends Mary Angela asked her, "How does your mother make sauce?" My sister was perplexed. Our mother made sauce by opening the Ragu jar.
My other family sauce story really belongs to a friend. Her grandmother was the holder of the sauce recipe. When she was feeling like she might be ready to stop making the sauce she gave the recipe to all of her daughters and daughters-in-law. They commenced taking turns making it for family Christmases after Nonna had gone to the big kitchen in the shy. Every woman in the next generation made sauce that was good but wasn't, they all agreed, quite right. One year the one who'd cooked mentioned having trouble finding the anchovy paste or some other obscure ingredient (I'm not related so I'm not allowed to really know what's in the sauce). One of the sisters said "what anchovy paste? There's no anchovy paste." A lot of yammering followed. Nonna had left out one ingredient when she shared the recipe, but a different ingredient one was ommitted for each relative. By comparing all six copies they figured out the right ingredients and true proportions. Or at least that's what they say.
Scarlett67
12-21-2010, 05:33 PM
Ours was handed down from Uncle Paul (http://www.newmansown.com/product_detail.aspx?productid=24).
samclem
12-21-2010, 06:36 PM
Ours was handed down from Uncle Paul (http://www.newmansown.com/product_detail.aspx?productid=24).
His Sockarooni sauce is the bomb.
MY/our recipe was stolen about 1967 from the NYTimes cookbook by Craig Claiborne.
Holy Shite. I just pulled out the volume, and those pages are covered with tomato blots from the sauce bubbling and exploding onto the pages!
Pretty much what you said, Qadgop. Except--
In place of your "29 0z. can of Tomato Sauce" please substitute a can of Italian Plum Tomatoes, undrained. I chop them up a bit before adding.
The rest of your ingredients dovetail with mine.*
*except for the Marmite. That's just crazy.
glowacks
12-21-2010, 07:36 PM
The presence of significant amounts of actual measurements invalidates the OP's recipe as a true traditional recipe. When I make spaghetti I just know how much to put in and measure nothing except that which comes pre-measured (cans of tomatoes, packages of ground beef), after having watched my mother make it numerous times. I know for certain she didn't learn it from her mother (because her mother is an awful cook, and makes spaghetti completely differently), and quite possibly developed it herself. It's not always the same and this is a good thing - part of the reason for making spaghetti yourself instead buying it in the store. It's not complicated, but it's tasty, and after making it for the rest of the house I lived in during college, I was asked for the recipe - which of course required cooking it again since I couldn't give any exact figures.
Ground Beef
Onions
Garlic
Tomatoes - some in paste form, some with significant liquid still
Red Wine
Basil
Oregano
Bay Leaves
Parmesan Cheese
Brown the meat, drain. Chop up the onions and garlic, then stir everything together. Bake on low for a few hours. Edible immediately, but tends to taste better after being refrigerated overnight.
Original recipe had mushrooms, which I don't like and thus got dropped as soon as my input became meaningful.
pepperlandgirl
12-21-2010, 07:53 PM
1 large onion
4 cloves of garlic
about 1 1/2 pound of roma tomatoes
Mince the garlic and onion, cook it until tender in olive oil, cut the tomatoes in half, let them simmer on low heat for an hour, use a hand blender to mix it until it's smooth, simmer it for another hour, add a pound of ground beef.
Since that can limit last minute dinner options, I try to keep some batches in the freezer. We don't buy the jarred stuff anymore. I've never really liked it, so I don't mind that this takes a bit extra time.
Drain Bead
12-21-2010, 09:34 PM
1 jar of sauce
1 pound of ground beef
1 onion
1 green pepper
1 container of fresh sliced mushrooms
jarlic, Italian seasoning, fennel seeds, crushed red pepper, salt, and black pepper to taste
Red wine
Milk or cream
Brown the meat and spices together. Remove it and drain it, leaving a bit of fat for the veggies to cook in. Cook the veggies. Put the meat back in, add the sauce (put about 1/4 cup of red wine in the jar after pouring the sauce in, shake it up, and then pour out the wine and sauce remnants into the pan), and simmer on the stove until you feel like eating it. Right before you take it off the heat, pour in a little bit of milk or cream. This "recipe" is only limited by the size of your pan. I use ground beef because it's what we generally have (we buy quarter cows and have a lot of freezer beef), but it's also good with ground Italian sausage or a blend, although I'd skip the fennel seeds if you did that.
I've done it in the pressure cooker too--follow the recipe as normal, only instead of simmering for a long time, cook it on High for 15 minutes and let pressure release naturally. Once pressure releases, add the milk and serve.
WarmNPrickly
12-21-2010, 09:48 PM
I like simple:
Sauté onions, garlic, mushrooms and whatever tickles you in olive oil and butter.
Add 1 can diced tomatoes, 1 can crushed tomatoes, and one can tomato paste.
Add basil, oregano, bay leaves and Parmesan cheese.
Simmer until youre bored.
If I want meat, I make meatballs with am equally ambiguous recipe. Thrn pour the sauce over the meatballs as the great FSM intended.
Taomist
12-21-2010, 10:03 PM
Any spaghetti sauce is fine, but the kicker is to drizzle italian dressing on the completed plate.
Yum!
Chefguy
12-21-2010, 10:27 PM
This is part mine and part a recipe I found on line. I've posted it before. It is outstandingly Italian and wonderfully flavorful, as has been relayed to me by other Dopers.
Time: 3 hours
This is an amazing spaghetti sauce, and any leftover meatballs and sauce can also be used for meatball subs. There’s lots of room for experimentation with meats in this dish, and it makes a lot of servings. Note that the meatball recipe only makes 16 or so. That’s because Italian meatballs (unlike Swedish meatballs) are very large. The important key to good meatballs (or anything made with ground meat, for that matter) is not to overwork the meat mixture. Use a light touch when mixing, and a very light touch when forming the balls, or you’ll end up with dry, dense product.
Sauce:
Salt and pepper
1 pound pork spareribs, neck bones or pork chops
1 pound beef chuck roast, blade steak or brisket
3 tablespoons olive oil
3/4 cup chopped onions
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 6-ounce can tomato paste
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1 tablespoon dried basil
1 teaspoon dried red pepper flakes
1 1/2 teaspoons kosher salt
1 bay leaf
1 28-ounce can crushed tomatoes, preferably Italian
1 28-ounce can tomato sauce
1/2 teaspoon sugar
2 tablespoons fresh parsley, roughly chopped
4 small or 2 large pickled peperoncini
Cooked meatballs (see recipe)
1 pound dried spaghetti for serving
Grated Parmesan for serving.
1. Sprinkle salt and pepper all over pork and beef. Place large pot over medium-high heat; when hot, add olive oil and brown meat. (Or cook meat in same pot used for meatballs, browning in the leftover fat.) Remove meat to a platter. Turning heat under pot to medium, add onions, and cook 3 minutes, stirring. Add garlic, and cook 2 minutes longer. Add tomato paste, and stir: cook until it absorbs fat in pan. Add oregano, basil, red pepper flakes, kosher salt and bay leaf, stirring to combine.
2. Add cans of tomatoes and tomato sauce, then 4 1/2 cups water. Stir in sugar, parsley and peperoncini. Return meats to pot with their juices. Bring sauce to a gentle boil. Turn heat down to a simmer, partly cover and leave sauce to simmer 21/2 hours or more, stirring regularly.
3. About 20 minutes before serving, add meatballs to pot. Boil spaghetti according to package directions. Drain, return spaghetti to pan and add 3 cups sauce. Toss pasta in pan for a minute to coat with sauce, and place on a large platter. Pour 2 more cups sauce over pasta. Place meat and meatballs on pasta, slicing large pieces. Serve with bowls of remaining sauce and Parmesan.
Yield: 6 to 8 servings.
Italian Meatballs
Time: 20 minutes
2 pounds ground beef
1 cup fresh bread crumbs
1/2 cup finely grated Parmesan
1 heaping tablespoon chopped fresh basil
1 heaping tablespoon chopped fresh parsley
1 teaspoon kosher salt
1/2 teaspoon black pepper
1/8 teaspoon ground cayenne pepper
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 eggs
3 tablespoons olive oil.
1. In a large bowl, mix all ingredients except olive oil by hand, using a light touch. Take a portion of meat in hand, and roll between palms to form a ball that is firmly packed but not compressed. Repeat, making each meatball about 2 inches in diameter.
2. In a large, heavy pot heat olive oil over medium-high heat. When it shimmers, add meatballs in batches. Do not crowd. Brown well on bottoms before turning, or meatballs will break apart. Continue cooking until browned all over. Remove meatballs to a plate as each batch is finished. Let meatballs cool slightly; cover and refrigerate until needed.
Yield: About 16 meatballs.
iamnotbatman
12-22-2010, 04:10 AM
Simple:
Lightly brown as much garlic as you can handle in a nice olive oil. Mix in spaghetti and squeeze in as much lemon as possible without it getting too watery. Voila! The addition of some red pepper and some nice sweet whole cheery tomatoes thrown in with the garlic, and some fresh basil at the end is optional. Of course salt to taste.
WhyNot
12-22-2010, 04:25 AM
The jarred sauces have gotten so good - or I've gotten so good at doctoring them - that I rarely make from scratch anymore.
One big honkin' onion, chopped small
Some ground beef
Some ground pork (Around a pound of meat all together)
Brown the meats and onions. When the meat is mostly browned, add:
A bit of red pepper flakes
A bunch of fennel seed
Some oregano
Salt
add A Mess O' Garlic, peeled, smashed and minced, when the onions are mostly done. Add:
2 jars cheap ass pasta sauce (I like using one "Meat Flavored" and one "Mushroom" from Aldi.)
1 can tomato paste
Water enough to rinse the tomatoey goodness out of the jars, into the pot.
Stir well and add:
Some more oregano
Some basil
Maybe some marjoram
Simmer on low until it's good 'n' hot, then taste and adjust seasonings. (Oregano can't be tasted fully until it's hot, so don't futz with it before it's hot or you'll end up over-oreganoing yourself.) Simmer about 30 minutes if it's a school night, an hour on weekends.
This usually feeds my family of four with a jar to a jar and a half of sauce left over. Luckily, I have two clean jars to put it back into! I love pasta with red sauce for leftovers during the week, but it also freezes well in freezer bags.
Leaper
12-22-2010, 04:31 AM
Most families seem to have a traditional pasta sauce recipe, handed down through the generation
Wow, I've seen folks just assume that everyone else on the Internet is white, but to assume everyone else is Italian...? That's a new one by me! :D
Lynn Bodoni
12-22-2010, 05:01 AM
I believe that the majority of Americans do eat some sort of pasta and sauce combination, whether they are of Italian ancestry or not. I mean, I eat a lot of Mexican food, and I'm not Mexican. I eat a lot of Chinese food, too.
I brown some ground beef, diced onions, green bell pepper, and mushrooms. I add garlic when everything is almost cooked. I drain the mess, then add some Ragu brand spaghetti sauce. Sometimes it's marinara, sometimes it's chunky garden. But it HAS to be Ragu brand, because that's the brand that my husband and daughter like. And then I serve it over some sort of pasta. The proportions vary according to what I feel like at the time.
Oh, and I usually make garlic bread, too.
Leaper
12-22-2010, 06:14 AM
I believe that the majority of Americans do eat some sort of pasta and sauce combination, whether they are of Italian ancestry or not.
Eat, yes, of course. But "have a traditional pasta sauce recipe, handed down through the generations"? I'm not sure I'd expect a Mexican or Chinese family to have one of those.
Qadgop the Mercotan
12-22-2010, 07:51 AM
Eat, yes, of course. But "have a traditional pasta sauce recipe, handed down through the generations"? I'm not sure I'd expect a Mexican or Chinese family to have one of those.
You're misquoting me. I said "handed down through the generation (from me when I was younger to me, now) or even further along than that"!
Leaper
12-22-2010, 03:26 PM
Ooooooohhhh. I couldn't parse the parenthetical, so I thought it was some kind of typo! Sorry about that!
Qadgop the Mercotan
12-22-2010, 04:42 PM
Not a problem, Leaper.
Anybody got any sauces that aren't tomato based? I enjoy a good pesto sauce. Or a nice cheese one.
Or a nice oriental one for noodles? Maybe with some sesame oil, peanut butter, and ginger?
I fear I was a bit inadvertently restrictive when I called it a 'spaghetti' sauce, as I've had some delicious thai, vietnamese, and chinese noolde sauces in the past.
Fiddle Peghead
12-22-2010, 05:12 PM
These aren't sauce recipes, they're gravy recipes. I'm not Italian and even I know that. :)
WarmNPrickly
12-22-2010, 07:20 PM
How so? I know you are being facetious but I can't figure what about.
Chefguy
12-22-2010, 07:59 PM
How so? I know you are being facetious but I can't figure what about.
It's a Sopranos thing.
Magiver
12-22-2010, 08:22 PM
This is a very simple recipe based on fennel and basil:
Sauté 2 cloves of sliced garlic in olive oil to infuse the flavor – discard garlic
Add (1) 6-oz can of tomato paste plus 2 cans of water and let simmer until mixture is consistent
Add (1) 28-oz can of tomato puree Plus 1 ½ cans of water.
Add (2) tsp. Of fennel seeds, (2) tbsp. Basil and 2 bay leaves
Simmer 3-4 hours partially covered until fennel seeds have softened and sauce has cooked down.
Meatballs
(1) lb of lean hamburger
(1) egg
(3) slices of toast made into bread crumbs
Add Parmesan cheese in a ratio of ½ of the bread crumbs
Cook meatballs and Italian sausage with sauce. A lean hamburger should require no skimming to remove fat. The cheese is used to make the meatballs tender. Since it takes 3-4 hrs to soften the fennel seeds in the sauce it is not necessary to cook the meatballs separately and the flavor is incorporated into the sauce. Vegetarian substitute protein can be used instead of hamburger but I would add a little smoke flavoring in.
Dallas Jones
12-22-2010, 10:35 PM
For everyone who uses ground beef in their sauce, just once leave that out and use ground Italian sausage instead.
I thought I made the perfect sauce until I was told to use Italian sausage instead of beef. It is the change that will make you go, "Oh yeah, that's what it needed."
AmunRa
12-22-2010, 10:44 PM
I am Italian, and it just so happens I am getting ready to make a ravioli based Christmas dinner this weekend. Here is the old family recipe directly transcribed from my grandmother's hand written guide (recipe really isn't very accurate) to Christmas dinner:
Fry meat -- sausage, pork, veal, steak
Add meat to already heated tomato sauce -- canned tomatoes, garlic, thyme, parsley, onions
Beat that glowacks. :D :p
WarmNPrickly
12-22-2010, 10:48 PM
You don't sauté you onions? I Think that would leave them a bit potent.
Otherwise, I appreciate the simplicity. What type of canned tomatoes?
AmunRa
12-22-2010, 10:59 PM
Well, I cook the onions with the meat in white wine. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I do this because that's the way my grandmother did it.
Tomatoes are usually canned, imported Italian tomatoes, with a few fresh cut up and tossed in.
The sauce gets started first about 24 hours before dinner, then I make meatballs, fry up the rest of the meat, and it all simmers as low as I can get it overnight.
And you should see the ravioli "recipe" it calls for a "fist" of cabbage and spinach. If anyone knows the conversion from fists to cups I would appreciate it.
dhkendall
12-22-2010, 11:05 PM
Cool! I'm a terrible cook, but one thing I can do is spaghetti sauce. Originally called "Funky Spaghetti Sauce" (in honour of a girl I was dating at the time whose last name was Funk, brought her up to my place after the date and was the first date I made the sauce for, and I got complimented on it well) but, after I married my wife (whose last name has never been Funk) I changed it to "Four Burner Spaghetti Sauce", not because it's overly hot but because all four burners are used on the stove at the same time (counting the one to boil the spaghetti with). Could also be called "Whole Stove Spaghetti". It requires:
1 750ml (?) can of spaghetti sauce (don't know exactly what size they are, and there's none in the house presently to check. Just your average can you find in the store. Any brand/flavour works)
1 lb ground beef
1 yellow onion
a mess of mushrooms (hey, I'm a terrible measurer, keep this in mind throughout the recipe)
one red pepper and/or one green pepper
a handful or so of sliced olives
2 or 3 strips of bacon
On one burner get a medium saucepan and plop the spaghetti sauce in it. Simmer on low
On another burner, brown the ground beef. Dice the onion and slice the mushrooms and sautee them with the ground beef.
Cut up the bacon into little pieces and cook that on another burner.
Combine beef, mushrooms, onions, and bacon with spaghetti sauce. Throw in olives
Cut up peppers and throw them in too.
After about 20 minutes throw in a squirt or two of BBQ sauce and a spoonful or two of salsa. Heck shred some cheese and throw it in!
The great thing about this recipe is that it's extremely versatile! Since we're trying to watch our fat intake, haven't had it (or anything) with bacon in years. My 8 year old doesn't like mushrooms or onions or "spicy things" (she has an incredibly liberal definition of "spicy") and wife doesn't like olives, so it's basically been lately the beef, salsa (as long as the kid doesn't know) and BBQ sauce. Since we have wild chives growing in our yard, we often take some of them, chop them up and throw them in too, as I said, versatile. IMHO, though, the peppers, bacon, mushrooms, olives, and onions are what the recipe is about and what makes it special. (Plus, the bacon uses the fourth burner to give it its name).
pulykamell
12-22-2010, 11:38 PM
For everyone who uses ground beef in their sauce, just once leave that out and use ground Italian sausage instead.
I thought I made the perfect sauce until I was told to use Italian sausage instead of beef. It is the change that will make you go, "Oh yeah, that's what it needed."
Depends on what you're going for. Unless I'm doing an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink Sunday gravy type of sauce, I don't like Italian sausage in mine.
My standard meat sauce is a bolognese: pancetta, chicken livers (not enough to give the dish liveriness, but enough to make the flavor richer), onion, carrot, celery, NO GARLIC, milk, white wine, beef, tomato sauce, salt, pepper. Beef is not browned in this preparation. Basically, I follow this recipe (http://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Bolognese-Meat-Sauce) with pancetta instead of Prosciutto di Parma, and I skip the beef broth.
samclem
12-23-2010, 12:36 AM
Depends on what you're going for. Unless I'm doing an everything-but-the-kitchen-sink Sunday gravy type of sauce, I don't like Italian sausage in mine.
My standard meat sauce is a bolognese: pancetta, chicken livers (not enough to give the dish liveriness, but enough to make the flavor richer), onion, carrot, celery, NO GARLIC, milk, white wine, beef, tomato sauce, salt, pepper. Beef is not browned in this preparation. Basically, I follow this recipe (http://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Bolognese-Meat-Sauce) with pancetta instead of Prosciutto di Parma, and I skip the beef broth.
Why no garlic? Just curious.
pulykamell
12-23-2010, 04:48 AM
Why no garlic? Just curious.
Bolognese properly does not have garlic. And in a lot of classical Italian cuisine it's garlic or onion, not both. But this is very regional. Personally, I find a lot (but not all, by any stretch) of American adaptations of Italian dishes to be a bit too heavy on the garlic and overloaded with spices in general. They also tend to be way too heavy on the sauce-to-pasta ratio, just too heavy in general. IMHO, of course. My absolute favorite pasta dish is bucatini all'amatriciana, as seen here, with recipe linked to (http://www.lthforum.com/bb/viewtopic.php?p=21067). Olive oil, onions, guanciale (or pancetta), pepper flakes, black pepper, tomatoes, and pecorino romano. Note the sauce to pasta ratio in those photos. That's perfect for me. God dammit, I'm hungry now.
Lynn Bodoni
12-23-2010, 05:21 AM
These aren't sauce recipes, they're gravy recipes. I'm not Italian and even I know that. :) That really, REALLY depends on the region. Some people will call it sauce, some will call it gravy.
For everyone who uses ground beef in their sauce, just once leave that out and use ground Italian sausage instead.
I thought I made the perfect sauce until I was told to use Italian sausage instead of beef. It is the change that will make you go, "Oh yeah, that's what it needed." I don't like the seasonings in Italian sausage. For one thing, I don't like anise or fennel. I've made pretty good sauce with bulk sage breakfast sausage though.
WhyNot
12-23-2010, 07:44 AM
For everyone who uses ground beef in their sauce, just once leave that out and use ground Italian sausage instead.
I thought I made the perfect sauce until I was told to use Italian sausage instead of beef. It is the change that will make you go, "Oh yeah, that's what it needed."
Nah. I actually made that change on purpose - my mom does use Italian sausage. I switched to ground beef/pork when I realized that I could control my ingredients better and it's considerably cheaper. Red pepper flakes, garlic, oregano and fennel are the seasonings in sausage, so why buy theirs for $5.99 a pound when ground beef is on sale for $2.49 and ground pork $3.49? And, just like in meatloaf, I like taste and texture of the mixture of beef and pork, which you don't get in Italian sausage.
Plus, I'm always suspicious of supermarket fresh sausage. Who knows how old those scraps were before they went into the grinder?
WarmNPrickly
12-23-2010, 08:10 AM
Tomatoes are usually canned, imported Italian tomatoes, with a few fresh cut up and tossed it.
Are the canned tomatoes, whole, diced, crushed, sauce or paste?
I refuse to use tomato sauce, I need more texture than that. My mom used to use whole tomatoes, but I think that was too much. I find a can of crushed, a can of diced, and a can of tomato paste gives a nice texture.
irishgirl
12-23-2010, 09:24 AM
Red onion, garlic- diced and fried til soft.
Add meat (chicken, turkey, minced beef, bacon, salami, whatever)
Add vegetables- usually some combination of diced red/yellow pepper, courgette (zucchini), mushrooms, aubergine (eggplant), celery or carrots
Add tomato- 1 tin of chopped plum tomatoes, 2 tablespoons of double concentrated paste.
Add woody herbs- thyme, rosemary, oregano- whatever is available
Add secret ingredients- star anise, splash of Worcestershire sauce, red wine, or balsamic vinegar, chopped sun-dried tomato, anchovy paste, chilli flakes, paprika- whatever comes to hand- depends on meat and veg used and my mood.
Season to taste
Add a sprinkle of brown sugar if tomatoes too tart.
Add soft herbs (parsley, basil, sage) if using.
Serve over pasta, topped with cheese.
Mine comes out different every time, but it is still good.
Qadgop the Mercotan
12-23-2010, 10:13 AM
Add secret ingredients- star anise, splash of Worcestershire sauce, red wine, or balsamic vinegar, chopped sun-dried tomato, anchovy paste, chilli flakes, paprika- whatever comes to hand- depends on meat and veg used and my mood.
I like the way you think! :D
Left Hand of Dorkness
12-23-2010, 12:24 PM
Nah. I actually made that change on purpose - my mom does use Italian sausage. I switched to ground beef/pork when I realized that I could control my ingredients better and it's considerably cheaper. Red pepper flakes, garlic, oregano and fennel are the seasonings in sausage, so why buy theirs for $5.99 a pound when ground beef is on sale for $2.49 and ground pork $3.49?
:confused: Uh, because $2.49 plus $3.49 is just one cent less than $5.99?
(It's humiliating that this was really my first thought on reading your question).
For normal spaghetti, I do a tomato sauce: sizzle dried herbs in olive oil, add onions and garlic, add red wine and canned tomatoes, simmer. Sometimes I'll do mushrooms with the onions; sometimes I'll add spinach near the end.
For Garlic Noodles, I make about a pound of noodles, saute about a dozen cloves of crushed garlic in olive oil until barely golden, stir the noodles back in, sprinkle liberally with salt, pepper, and parmesan. Sometimes I'll add chopped garden tomatoes, fresh mozzarella, and/or fresh basil. It's comfort food that I can eat a ton of.
For Asian noodle salad, I use soba noodles, and I blanch various veggies--carrots, snap peas, asparagus, etc. Cucumbers and tomatoes just get chopped. Here's the recipe for the sauce:
¼ c. peanut butter
½ c. coconut milk
¼ c. chopped toasted peanuts
2 Tbsp. fish sauce or 1 Tbsp. soy sauce
3 Tbsp. rice vinegar
2 tsp. grated ginger
2 cloves crushed garlic
2 Tbsp. chopped cilantro
Sriracha to taste
WhyNot
12-23-2010, 12:33 PM
:confused: Uh, because $2.49 plus $3.49 is just one cent less than $5.99?
(It's humiliating that this was really my first thought on reading your question).
LOL. You're adding one pound each beef and pork to compare it to one pound of sausage. 1 pound total meat is half price if you make your own sausage in the pan.
But yeah, mostly it's for taste and texture. :D
Left Hand of Dorkness
12-23-2010, 02:15 PM
LOL. You're adding one pound each beef and pork to compare it to one pound of sausage. 1 pound total meat is half price if you make your own sausage in the pan.
But yeah, mostly it's for taste and texture. :DYeah--my second thought was averages, but I wanted to mock myself for my first thought. Anyway, sounds good!
pulykamell
12-23-2010, 02:44 PM
Y'all shopping at Whole Foods for Italian sausage that's $5.99 a pound and ground pork is $3.49/lb? ;)
sitchensis
12-23-2010, 03:02 PM
My Dad's sauce (now my sauce) always contains Italian sausage, beef ribs, chicken thighs and meatballs. I always love the stringy rib and chicken meat on my meatball sandwiches.
I’m not sure how he came up with the recipe; at best you could say his ancestry would be Irish, and he was born in Butte MT. His story is that he had never eaten spaghetti until he was about twenty years old and it was basically tomato sauce mixed with Italian seasoning. I guess he figured it needed a little more meat.
WhyNot
12-23-2010, 03:06 PM
Y'all shopping at Whole Foods for Italian sausage that's $5.99 a pound and ground pork is $3.49/lb? ;)
No, but that's about what they were last time I looked at Jewel.
Then I went to Cermak and bought the cheap stuff. ;)
Chefguy
12-23-2010, 04:21 PM
Not a problem, Leaper.
Anybody got any sauces that aren't tomato based? I enjoy a good pesto sauce. Or a nice cheese one.
Or a nice oriental one for noodles? Maybe with some sesame oil, peanut butter, and ginger?
I fear I was a bit inadvertently restrictive when I called it a 'spaghetti' sauce, as I've had some delicious thai, vietnamese, and chinese noolde sauces in the past.
This is a good pesto:
Arugula Pesto:
2 cups baby arugula or other greens
1 TBSP lemon zest
1 TBSP minced garlic
¼ cup toasted walnut pieces
3 TBSP olive oil
½ tsp kosher salt
¼ tsp ground pepper
We toss the pasta in this, then add raisins, crumbled gorgonzola and chopped walnuts. Howzat?
El_Kabong
12-23-2010, 06:24 PM
My mom made a decent spaghetti sauce, but I always thought it could do with a bit more kick, so I made up my own. I generally make it with penne pasta. Here it is:
Ingredients:
1 8-ounce can tomato sauce
1 6-ounce can tomato paste
1 package mild (or hot) italian sausage
1/2 large onion, chopped
1/2 each green and red peppers, chopped
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 bay leaves
1/4 habanero pepper, finely chopped (or substitute 1/2 tsp crushed red pepper)
pinch of italian herb mix
2-3 tbsp olive oil
4 tbsp sliced black olives
Boil the italian sausage in salted water for about 15 min., fish them out of the water and let cool so you can cut them up. In the meantime, sautee the onion, garlic and peppers in the olive oil, gently until soft (15-20 min), then add the tomato sauce and tomato paste together and heat gently, stirring occasionally. The reason for both being used is that it gives the sauce the thickness that I prefer. I even thin it out a bit with 3-4 oz. of water. Once the sauce is in, cut up the sausage (thin slices or chunks) and add it to the sauce. Let the sauce simmer while you make the pasta.
Start heating some salted water for the pasta. When it is boiling, that is your cue to add the italian herbs and olives to the sauce. Cook the pasta until al dente, place some pasta on individual plates, then ladle sauce over the pasta. Serve with a bit of black pepper, and with some freshly grated parmesan cheese if you're flush, some of the cheap stuff from a can if you're not.
You can play around a bit with the hot peppers and sausage to find the right degree of spiciness, but the black olives and bay leaf are essential.
Cheers.
norinew
12-23-2010, 08:07 PM
Anybody got any sauces that aren't tomato based? I enjoy a good pesto sauce. Or a nice cheese one.
Easy white cheese and mushroom sauce
4TBSP butter
4 TBSP flour
1 to 1 and 1/2C Half and Half or whole milk
1/2lb. crimini mushrooms, stemmed and sliced
3/4C Parmigiana Reggiano cheese
1/3C mascarpone cheese
Salt
Pepper
Ground nutmeg
Melt butter in a heavy pan, turn heat to med-low and whisk in flour; whisk for a couple of minutes, until 'blonde' in color. Whisk in some salt, pepper and nutmeg. Slowly incorporate milk or Half and Half, until sufficiently thick.
Add mushrooms, simmer until mushrooms begin to soften. Slowly incorporate Parm until well-blended; just before removing sauce from heat, fold in mascarpone.
This is a very flexible recipe, sometimes I add some Italian herbs, etc. Depends on what I have handy and what kind of mood we're in.
We use this sauce on fettuccine, tortellini, or stir it into some cooked short pasta then bake it as a form of mac and cheese.
It's extra, extra good if you stir in some lump lobster meat at the very end!
AmunRa
12-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Are the canned tomatoes, whole, diced, crushed, sauce or paste?
I refuse to use tomato sauce, I need more texture than that. My mom used to use whole tomatoes, but I think that was too much. I find a can of crushed, a can of diced, and a can of tomato paste gives a nice texture.
I take whole tomatoes and crush them slightly by hand as I add them to the pot. Since the sauce cooks overnight the tomatoes have lots of time to cook down to nice little bits.
If it's not from a jar, it involves salsa and/or ketchup. And it actually tastes pretty good--better than some jar varieties, at least. I'd have to ask Mom how she does it, but chances are it's one of those things where she doesn't really remember, and will never taste the same as hard as I try.
panache45
12-25-2010, 02:37 PM
Prego.
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