View Full Version : British (and Aussie, Kiwi, Jamaican, etc.) Dopers: Can You Do a Convincing American Accent?
HeyHomie
02-28-2011, 12:57 PM
Hugh Laurie (British) and Anna Torv (Australian), among multiple others, can sound convincingly American. Of course, they're trained actors.
How about you, the average British (Aussie, etc. etc.) layperson? Can you do it?
Candyman74
02-28-2011, 01:55 PM
Nope, not even vaguely. But then I can't do any accent - American, Scottish, Irish, Jamaicain, Autralian, German, French - not a single one. I sound ludicrous.
jjimm
02-28-2011, 02:18 PM
I spent several years in Texas as a kid, and used to think I did a convincing Texan accent, until I heard a recording of myself doing it. My main faults were clipped vowels and handling the T sounds incorrectly. However, I think with a bit of practice, or living there for a few weeks, I could get it back.
When I hear the godawful 'American' accents on BBC radio, the biggest errors I hear are a total incomprehension of the rhotic R, as well as everyone, from New York to California, sounding like they've stepped out of a plantation in Georgia.
Apollyon
02-28-2011, 02:30 PM
Voted no... because I can't do it deliberately. :)
I don't have much of a Kiwi accent anyway -- I've been misidentified as English (based on my speech / accent) by a number of people, including ex-pat English colleagues. :eek:
Drop me in the US for a few days however and my speech alters (based on past experience) -- slow down the pace, avoid contractions, avoid local colliquialisms...
It's a self-defense mechanism. :D
multimediac17
02-28-2011, 03:12 PM
I think the closest I could come to being convincing would be a Southern accent (like the way the women talk in Steel Magnolias, for example) but I would never really fool anybody. It would only work as exaggerated comedy. Very much Australian-doing-American rather than American.
robert_columbia
02-28-2011, 06:20 PM
American here (Mid-Atlantic).
I think an important aspect of the American accent are the letters T and D. First of all, for many, if not most Americans (including me), they are not dental- one touches the front of their palate. Second of all, they mutate depending on criteria. A stressed T becomes a D, and an unstressed T after an N is dropped.
I pronounce the names Patty and Paddy identically. So far, it hasn't caused any problems. Also, we have this religion in the US called The Church of Jesus Christ of "Ladder"-Day Saints.
We go to the "Couny" Fair. I pronounce "entity" as "Ennidy" (first t dropped, second t changes to d).
Roticity is not required to sound American. Most Americans speak with a rhotic accent, but we do have acceptable non-rhotic accents. If you can pull off a decent Brooklyn or "Hahvahd"/Boston accent, you'll sound American. Be aware that the Brooklyn accent is a "lower class" non-rhotic accent and the "Hahvahd" one is a upper-class non-rhotic accent.
Filbert
02-28-2011, 07:06 PM
Never tried, having not been there, but I do tend to pick up accents fast- I did get mistaken for a Kiwi in NZ when I was there, as well as for an Aussie while in Australia.
I suspect if I hung round more with Americans I'd wind up accent borrowing from them too, but currently I don't, and don't watch much US TV, so I don't have enough accent exposure to be at all convincing.
Princhester
03-01-2011, 12:08 AM
When I try, not only are Americans unconvinced, they also point out that I sound like a complete mishmash of US accents. In other words I jump from Californian to Texan to New Yorker to whoknowswhat between and even during sentences. Comes from hearing different US accents in various movies and TV shows rather than one accent consistently I suppose.
Isamu
03-01-2011, 12:53 AM
Yes, I can do a generic American accent but I can't do specific (Southerner, Boston etc). Why? Because as an Australian I grew up watching (largely) American TV. Also, for the last 15 years most of my friends/associates have been American.
SciFiSam
03-01-2011, 04:17 AM
I've never really tried, to be honest. When the occasion arises for me to put on an American accent, like if I say 'get off your horse and drink your milk,' or 'howdy, partner!' I do an exaggerated accent that anyone would recognise as 'trying to sound American,' which is good enough.
I wonder if the actors on those BBC radio plays are doing the same? They never sound remotely American.
One And Only Wanderers
03-01-2011, 04:34 AM
I can't even do convincing accents from otehr parts of the British Isles. American would be right out.
Baron Greenback
03-01-2011, 04:39 AM
Nah, I'm crap at accents. Whenever I hear a recording of me speaking, I'm always a bit bemused by how strong my native accent is. It overwhelms any attempt at another.
Incref
03-01-2011, 04:59 AM
Depends on the area. I think my 'Valley Girl' is none too shabby, but I don't know how far that'll get me. Mid West and maybe a little South is also okay, but anything that involves a decent sprinkle of colloquialisms is going to leave me right out.
Wallenstein
03-01-2011, 05:56 AM
Depends who I'm trying to convince!
Would an Alaskan necessarily know a "convincing" Wyoming accent? If you put me in Fremont County, WY I might be spotted as an imposter straight away, but drop me in Yellowknife, AK and they might have no idea what someone from Wyoming sounds like.
I have been mistaken for dutch before based on my English accent, so there are probably certain parts of the USA which I could mimic without much effort. But I'd be rubbish at a New Jersey, or Italian American, or Southern Belle accent.
GuanoLad
03-01-2011, 06:11 AM
I've always been very good with accents. American is one I can do a reasonable attempt at, including regional twangs (and even Canadian), but I would never fool an actual American.
However, if I spent a few months in America, and had a few deliberate lessons, I think I could do a decent job that would be passable in some situations.
Lo-Slung Denim
03-01-2011, 06:18 AM
Mine is pretty good, but that's based on spending some time growing up in Ohio. So I could do a fairly standard Ohio accent.
Capt. Ridley's Shooting Party
03-01-2011, 06:27 AM
No. I cannot do any accent other than my own, even for accents from towns and cities near to where I come from (Manchester, Liverpool etc). My own accent is too strong and seemingly cannot be overridden.
Autolycus
03-01-2011, 06:41 AM
Be aware that the Brooklyn accent is a "lower class" non-rhotic accent and the "Hahvahd" one is a upper-class non-rhotic accent.
While the Brooklyn accent stereotypically-speaking is still low class, IME from living in Boston during college the thick 'Hahvahd' accent is now also seen as low-class.
Acsenray
03-01-2011, 07:17 AM
IME from living in Boston during college the thick 'Hahvahd' accent is now also seen as low-class.
I think you're mixing up two or more accents. There are working class non-rhotic Boston accents and there are upper class non-rhotic Boston accents.
Autolycus
03-01-2011, 08:11 AM
I think you're mixing up two or more accents. There are working class non-rhotic Boston accents and there are upper class non-rhotic Boston accents.
Hmmm, I only lived there for 6 years. The vast majority of that were spent in either Stoughton or Chestnut Hill, so guilty as charged I suppose. I did hang out in Harvard Square a lot, knew some Harvard students, and while none of them seemed to have any strong accent that I could detect, that's certainly not a very scientific claim.
So, the working-class non-rhotic Boston accent is the Southie, wicked-pissa, bubbla packie, Good Will Hunting, pahk the cah in hahvahd yard accent, right? What's the upper class one sound like then, because I've never heard it.
A. Gwilliam
03-01-2011, 11:43 AM
Hugh Laurie (British) and Anna Torv (Australian), among multiple others, can sound convincingly American. Of course, they're trained actors.
How about you, the average British (Aussie, etc. etc.) layperson? Can you do it?
Brit here; I voted "Nope, couldn't pull if off if I tried" (oo-er missus!).
There's something about an American accent that's somehow qualitatively different from a Commonwealth accent. When I was on holiday for a few weeks in New Zealand, I started to unconsciously develop a Kiwi twang, much to my embarrassment when I realised. And when I lived in Oz, I developed an Aussie accent sufficiently well for me to constantly be mistaken for a fellow-countryman by ex-pats when I moved back to the UK. But having accumulated about six months' time in the US over the years, I've never been able to develop any sort of American accent.
I think the real problem is the vowel sounds, I suppose because Aussie/Kiwi vowel sounds are relatively recent spin-offs from my own accent(s), whereas American vowel sounds have had much longer to develop from a more different set of English accents.
Another problem, not directly related to the actual sounds themselves, is the different cultural environment. Aussies/Kiwis and Brits have a surprising amount of cultural baggage in common. Americans vs. the Commonwealth is a much bigger difference. Anyone thinking they know or understand American culture (or rather: cultures) from nothing more than the big or small screens is fooling themselves.
I suspect that I might eventually be able to acquire a decent American accent, though, if I could figure out just how to do it! I certainly have found myself speaking differently when in the US so perhaps the process has gotten (!) underway; just far more slowly than it did for when I was Down Under.
There's something about an American accent that's somehow qualitatively different from a Commonwealth accent.
How would you compare it to an Irish accent, which is also rhotic? American and Irish accents seem more similar to my ear than either is to a British or Australian accent (although not necessarily word usage). Someone actually mistook me for Irish when I was in Dublin; I'm from California.
Cunctator
03-01-2011, 07:08 PM
Probably not. On a couple of occasions my choir has been asked to sing with American accents. I doubt that we sounded very authentic.
A. Gwilliam
03-01-2011, 07:43 PM
How would you compare it to an Irish accent, which is also rhotic? American and Irish accents seem more similar to my ear than either is to a British or Australian accent (although not necessarily word usage). Someone actually mistook me for Irish when I was in Dublin; I'm from California.
Hm! You may have exposed some inadvertent Anglo-centrism on my part!
However, I think it would be a lot easier for me to pick up some sort of an Irish accent than an American one. On the other hand, I don't feel that about a Scottish accent. I don't think that I can usefully analyse why that should seem to be the case. It may be related to the fact that I'm often the last to notice that someone is a Scot, though. In contrast, I've found myself picking up Irishisms in the past when spending any sort of time with Irishmen around. No doubt if I moved to Scotland, people who knew me down here would start to notice a difference in how I talked, but I feel sure that I would Irishize much more quickly if I moved to Ireland. Whatever process affects the adoption of different turns of phrase, and particularly of different rhythms of speech, must surely be related in some fashion to the adoption of a different accent (phonology).
Maybe for me it's simply some sort of psychological thing to do with degrees of "foreignness"! Just foreign enough, but not too foreign...! :)
A. Gwilliam
03-01-2011, 07:46 PM
Probably not. On a couple of occasions my choir has been asked to sing with American accents. I doubt that we sounded very authentic.
At the theatre where I work, there are often amateur and semi-professional productions of American musicals. Most of the performers end up with the same tortured sound, you can almost hear them holding their jaws in a particular way to get the vowels out. I'm not a fan of musicals anyway, and I know they're doing their best (and it's no doubt adequate for the purposes of local theatre) but I hate it! :(
I was an actor and as a kid I liked to do accents, reckon I would be able to pass as a southerner to a bostonian etc.
Probably not. On a couple of occasions my choir has been asked to sing with American accents. I doubt that we sounded very authentic.
You don't really have to for choir. The choral accent is different, a hodgepodge of all other accents. I know few people who can tell the difference between choirs from different sections of America.
What I'm saying is, even Americans sounds inauthentic.
An Gadaí
03-04-2011, 05:52 AM
Irish here, and I believe I can. Although I'm not sure if I could sustain it. I think Hugh Laurie's accent sounds a bit ersatz but then I'm not American.
Jennyrosity
03-04-2011, 06:22 AM
Nope, and I've acted for years, but accents of any kind aren't my strong point. Was a bit of an issue when I directed "Six Degrees of Separation", but luckily we had a couple of genuine Yanks in the cast, and anyway, as I told the actors, we were only needed to be good enough to convince a British audience!
Acsenray
03-04-2011, 06:31 AM
Irish here, and I believe I can. Although I'm not sure if I could sustain it. I think Hugh Laurie's accent sounds a bit ersatz but then I'm not American.
Laurie's phonemes are right for a generically American-sounding accent, but he always sounds like he's trying very hard.
vBulletin® v3.7.3, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.