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Stoid
03-13-2011, 10:34 PM
Sounds weird.

What I mean is that I was watching private home footage of the Japan quake itself, and I was thinking that it is probably very scary to people who have never experienced earthquakes. I've noticed very deep fear in people who have never been through them.

I live in LA and have my whole life, and I've been through many, including a few very powerful ones, and unless they wake me out of a sound sleep (and they have), they don't really scare me all that much. I know they will be over soon, and I sort of enjoy them...it's a trip to feel the whole world move.

But I also think that (USUALLY) earthquakes in California (vs. third world countries) aren't really all that dangerous to human life, and the danger they do present is largely avoidable for most people. I do NOT want to be in a high rise building during an earthquake, or on or under a freeway overpass, but aside from that, I feel pretty comfortable that I can be somewhere safe.

But that's the only natural disaster I have experienced. I have never been through a hurricane, tornado, tsunami or other flood, and they all scare the shit out of me. Especially tornados... what the fuck? Some crazy funnel cloud randomly zipping around at hundreds of miles per hour picking up everything and throwing it around?!?!?! (That assinine movie about tornados had so many stupid things in it, but I think the stupidest was Helen Hunt and her costar doing two WTF things: one, saving themselves by "hanging on"- right- and OPENING THEIR EYES. Are you FUCKING kidding???? Seems pretty obvious to me that if nothing else, tornadoes full of debris at high speeds is going to BLIND your stupid ass IMMEDIATELY.)


And I've noticed in casual conversations I've had that people tend to fear their "local" disasters less than the unknown. I think that's at work with me, but I also think that I'm kinda right, in the US, that a more unpredictably dangerous situation is a tornado or hurricane, rather than an earthquake. Plus earthquakes are so short, there's hardly time to know they are happening, much less get hurt, vs. the long periods of time associated with the others. (Of course, that's what scares some people: complete lack of ability to predict or prepare.)

So do you fear certain disasters more than others, and is there a correlation between your fear and your personal experience, in either direction?

POLL COMING! POll question will be: which natural disaster do you fear the LEAST.

elfkin477
03-13-2011, 10:43 PM
I'm not sure what to answer. I fear floods the least, but what does it mean to "experience" one? I live directly across (and up hill from) a river, so our road flooded and closed four times in three years. But other than not being to come and go as I pleased, I only had to vacuum a couple of inches of water out of the basement. That's a pretty lackluster experience... I suppose that people will have difficulty with the earthquake answer too, given how many under 3 earthquakes there are and how few big ones.

loshan
03-13-2011, 10:50 PM
I lived in Tornado Alley most of my life. I have seen quite a few and been around the after-effects.
They just aren't as scary to me as the earth moving underneath me. Tornados cut a relatively small path. They are scary and awesome, and I know much more about them than damn near any other natural disaster type thing.
More knowledge=less scared, IMHO.

Ephemera
03-13-2011, 10:56 PM
I fear tornadoes the least, though we recently had a tornado come through that caused a friend to go without power for eight hours and destroyed a house not far from another friend's house. The thought of the whole world shaking, or water over my head when I'm not in a lake or river freak me the hell out, though.

madmonk28
03-13-2011, 10:57 PM
I've been in earthquakes in Indonesia and Afghanistan and let me tell you: if you have ever been in a reasonably big earthquake on the sixth floor of a building in Kabul built to local "standards," they will scare the ever loving shit out of you.

PeskiPiksi
03-13-2011, 11:31 PM
I've experienced tornadoes and hurricanes, and seriously debated which answer to give. Tornadoes are scary as hell when you're experiencing them (and the one I experienced was only a baby one--I can't imagine what an F5 would be like.) And the unpredictability of them can be scary, although the technology these days is pretty amazing. (Aside: You can just tell the meteorologists here in Oklahoma LOVE it when tornado weather comes around because they get to play with all of their cool little high-tech toys.) But like loshan noted above, usually a tornado hits a pretty narrow path, and if you know what do to, you can survive them given just a couple of minutes of warning.

And growing up in Oklahoma, I've gotten pretty inured to the tornado sirens going off. My sister still laughs about the time she had visitors from Seattle, and there was a tornado watch, and her friends were insistent we take shelter. For a watch, not even a warning! For me, I don't even take shelter when the sirens go off unless I can see on the TV that there's something near me. Once during a storm I posted my Facebook status as something like, "You know you're an Okie when the sirens are going off and you're still on Facebook" and I got about twenty responses in the next ten minutes from like-minded people.

Hurricanes are bigger and cut a much, much bigger area of damage, but these days you get what, like almost a week's warning? That's why they got my vote.

If we had a "what scares you most" poll, for me it would be a tsunami. Absolutely terrifying.

CanvasShoes
03-13-2011, 11:37 PM
I fear tornadoes the least, though we recently had a tornado come through that caused a friend to go without power for eight hours and destroyed a house not far from another friend's house. The thought of the whole world shaking, or water over my head when I'm not in a lake or river freak me the hell out, though.

This, only the opposite. I lived in Alaska for 40 years, I wasn't there for the '64 quake, but there've been some pretty hard ones, including on in '73 which did quite a bit of damage downtown and was a bit scary.

The wind now, some invisible noisy THING swooping down from God knows where, touching down at its whim...GAH! At least with earthquakes there's a reasonable path, they're along normal faultlines, you can get to higher ground and all that rot. The one thing that does bother me (as I've moved to yet another earthquake prone state), is being under one of those freeways. There are few tunnels, and no raised highways in Alaska, being in one of those tunnels would be the worst thing if an earthquake hit, a big one.

And, I just realized I accidentally voted the first option, when I meant the second.

suranyi
03-13-2011, 11:41 PM
It's precisely because I live in California and have experienced earthquakes that I am afraid of them. They come without warning and, if large, are terrifying to experience. You must have a different idea of fun then I do if you "sort of enjoy them."

Siam Sam
03-13-2011, 11:46 PM
I've experienced one tornado and one hurricane. I'll take the hurricane any day of the week.

Sakuma Drops
03-13-2011, 11:48 PM
I picked "tornadoes, but never experienced them".

Tornadoes used to scare the crap out of me. I was six years old when a violent tornado hit a couple towns over from where I lived, in the middle of the night, in November. It freaked me out pretty badly because at the time I though that tornadoes were a spring afternoon thing, and would always be easy to spot, in the daylight. The idea that tornadoes could occur at any time, anywhere (I do not live in the traditional "Tornado Alley") was terrifying to me.

But I eventually got tired of being scared so I did some research to learn about tornadoes and severe weather (and went on to study meteorology in college), and I learned a few interesting things. First of all, as a few people mentioned, each tornado affects only a relatively small area, and the chance that any one location will be affected by one is incredibly small. Second, most tornadoes are weak, ranking at F0 or F1 on the Fujita Scale - still dangerous if you are in the open or in a trailer, but taking cover in a sturdy building will protect you well in most cases. Also, warning systems for severe weather have improved a lot over the past few decades - it was not unusual as late as the early '90s for tornadoes to go unwarned until they were on the ground. Nowadays 20 to 30 minute warnings are common, and with radar you can track storms pretty well.

Hurricanes...I've been through several, and even if you're inland they can be horrible due to flooding and wind damage. No thanks. I'm sure most earthquakes, like tornadoes, are also weak but they're also very difficult to warn for (at least you can see weather coming). I don't want to ever have to go through a tsunami. A friend of mine's daughter survived the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami and what she had to say about it was pretty horrifying.

Stoid
03-14-2011, 12:39 AM
It's precisely because I live in California and have experienced earthquakes that I am afraid of them. They come without warning and, if large, are terrifying to experience. You must have a different idea of fun then I do if you "sort of enjoy them."

Being awakened suddenly I find them scary. Sitting at my desk and the earth starts shakin'? Nah. Easy. (especially when they aren't too big. The big ones were when I was asleep, too) And the ones I really like are the slow rolls, where it feels like the earth is a boat being gently rocked....

horsetech
03-14-2011, 01:11 AM
The only natural disaster I've lived through is a weakening hurricane that was probably on the edge of TS/Cat 1 when it came through our area. A microburst took off the tops of a bunch of power poles and flattened a few trees a block away, and there was some more general tree/roof damage in my larger area, but no one died.

I guess you could say I've lived through some "blizzards" which dumped several feet of snow at a time, but the temperature wasn't really COLD like in the upper Midwest. I think of blizzards I've lived through as fun inconveniences - you bundle up like crazy, shovel the walks every few hours, drink lots of hot chocolate, and don't go anywhere for a few days. Even when the power went out for a number of hours (not days, fortunately), it was a matter of wearing layers and bundling up. However, I would not be so blase about a true Midwest blizzard of a couple feet of snow followed by blowing snow and sub-zero temperatures. You freeze to death a lot quicker when visibility is minimal and the windchill is -50.

The one thing that scares the ever loving shit out of me is fire. Among other things, being burned with a side of smoke inhalation sounds like a really shitty way to go, perhaps one of my most feared ways. Fires can also move and change direction very quickly compared to, say, hurricanes or snowstorms. Fortunately, the Central Valley is less prone than the hills to wildfires, but they still occur. Significant earthquakes are also rarer in the Valley than on the coast.

Little Nemo
03-14-2011, 01:54 AM
Blizzards are probably my least scary "disaster" and definitely the one I've experience the most. But I wasn't sure if it should count as a natural disaster so I didn't pick other.

I've been through one house fire and that was bad. But I don't consider that a natural disaster.

I've seen one minor tornado, some minor floods, and some minor earthquakes. Never experienced a hurricane or a tsunami. Of those choices I picked earthquake as the least scary.

horsetech
03-14-2011, 02:58 AM
I should have clarified that, although they scare me, I do not think of house fires as natural disasters, just large wildfire/brush fires. I suppose some of those are human-caused, but I figure there are enough lightning-caused fires (with natural drought as a contributing factor) to squeeze them in.

Little Nemo
03-14-2011, 03:01 AM
I should have clarified that, although they scare me, I do not think of house fires as natural disasters, just large wildfire/brush fires. I suppose some of those are human-caused, but I figure there are enough lightning-caused fires (with natural drought as a contributing factor) to squeeze them in.Gotcha. Yes, I agree in some areas wildfires would qualify as natural disasters.

kambuckta
03-14-2011, 04:38 AM
I've never experienced any natural disaster, and to be perfectly honest, they ALL scare the bejesus outta me.

Whilst a river-flood might give me warning time to get the hell out before life and limb are threatened, there's the prospect of the clean up to contend with.....I dunno whether I'd prefer everything to be washed away in the first place. :(

Sattua
03-14-2011, 07:35 AM
I've experienced one mild earthquake (4.3) and several tornados that came far too close for comfort.

While I really, really, really don't want to experience any of the natural disasters you listed, a tornado is the one that starts me crying if I think about it too hard. On the other hand, it's also the one that I know exactly how to handle, so I'd prefer to be through another of those than to face the unknown.

Moonlitherial
03-14-2011, 08:17 AM
We don't really get natural disasters in Toronto. We had an earthquake last year that caused absolutely no damage but emptied out a few buildings. We have occasional tornados but they're very usually very different than what someone in Tornado Alley experiences. They hang around just long enough to rip off one garage roof and then it's over.

I have a friend who was next door to a house that was destroyed in the 1985 tornado and she has reacted the opposite of your hypothesis, she is absolutely terrified of tornados and anytime the sky gets purple she gets very tense and overwrought.

As for me, I'm not particularly frightened of any of them but I haven't experienced any of them either. Watching the videos or looking at the pictures makes me sad for the people and I can see why they would be frightened but it doesn't make me fearful. I suspect that if I was actually in one it would be different :)

Chefguy
03-14-2011, 10:46 AM
I prefer my disasters to come with a warning, so I picked 'hurricane', even though I've never experienced one. Unless you live on an island, you can get away from a hurricane before it strikes. Tornadoes are capricious and arbitrary, and earthquakes give zero warning before you suddenly find yourselve wearing Good Friday's dinner, dodging dishes and cans, and flying across the room, as I did in Anchorage in 1964. While a serious earthquake won't necessarily kill you, the PTS is a bitch.

Zsofia
03-14-2011, 01:44 PM
Yeah, I think there's something to the thesis of the OP - I live in South Carolina and have seen a real live big hurricane up close and personal (Hugo) and I am least afraid of hurricanes. However, I might be least afraid of them anyway, because you can see 'em coming! Days away! Weeks, really! Get the fuck out, morons! Earthquakes and tornadoes, those fuckers could come at you any minute. There could be one behind you right now. Hurricanes, now, those are polite and considerate natural disasters. They send you an engraved response card and then they generally show up when the party starts and leave when your invitation suggested.

ETA - second most intense Atlantic hurricane ever, bitches! Granted, I don't live in Charleston, but we saw the eye.

kushiel
03-14-2011, 03:45 PM
Picked Other - I'm cool with blizzards. They aren't just the most common disaster here*, but they're the only one. I live on the most stable, boring tract of land ever. :D

*Okay, we did have some tornados. Before 1960. They were not Death Rays.

Skald the Rhymer
03-14-2011, 06:23 PM
I voted tornadoes.

They're common where I live, and I've gone through a few. Like hurricanes, and unlike earthquakes, you get a good deal of warning, and there are reasonable steps you can take to protect yourself when they're happening. Moreover, and unlike hurricanes OR earthquakes, they are very focused, so the odds of it missing you are better.

Rysdad
03-14-2011, 06:33 PM
I don't fear tsunamis at all. I live in Minnesota. Unless a comet hits Lake Superior, I'm good.

Of those things that might reasonable be expected here, I fear tornadoes the least. I have experienced them. There's usually some warning. I'd actually be safer at my cabin than here in the Twin Cities suburbs. Up there, I built a 6-inch thick poured concrete with rebar blockhouse (roof included) that will withstand anything short of an F-5.

Yarster
03-14-2011, 07:34 PM
I would have said tornadoes up until I lived in Austin,TX and they had the F5 that hit the town of Jarrell about 40 miles to the North. My original thought had been, "meh, they don't tend to do a lot of damage, and you can get resources to the people who are hit by them right away, so very few people die. But when you see something so strong it sucks the asphalt from the street and you see a transmission in a tree, that scares the crap out of you.

I've otherwise spent most of my life in L.A. or San Diego, though, so I've experienced plenty of earthquakes, and indeed, almost all of them barely get noticed because I assume it's a heavy truck going by somewhere. So far, so good, so they don't scare me. Yet somehow I know if a big one ever struck and my house collapsed on me, I'd be screwed because everyone else's house would collapse on them too. So I'd eventually die an idiot, and to add insult to injury, my cat would probably eat my face.

Zsofia
03-14-2011, 07:58 PM
If it makes you feel better, there's no "probably" about it.

Miller
03-14-2011, 08:37 PM
As a life long California, having lived through Loma Prieta and Northridge, as well as dozens of smaller quakes, I'm pretty blase about the whole concept. The minor ones are kind of fun, in somewhat the same way Winston Churchill once described being shot at and missed "the greatest thrill a man can experience."

Floods don't seem particularly scary to me, even though I know they can be dangerous. Even the flood of '86 that forced my parents to abandon our house, seemed more of an expensive inconvenience than a genuine danger.

Hurricanes are kind of similar. Intellectually, I know they can be devastating, but emotionally, it just seems like "raining hard, only more so." It doesn't have any sort of psychic resonance with me. That would probably change if I ever lived through one, I expect.

Volcanoes seem more like something out of fantasy fiction. I know they're real, and can be extraordinarily dangerous (Krakatoa, Pompeii, Yosemite) but it just seems too Hollywood to really be worried about.

Tornadoes, on the other hand, despite being something I've never seen, hold pride-of-place in my mind as the most terrifying thing nature could do to you.

Tinkertoy
03-14-2011, 10:17 PM
For me it was a tie between Tsunamis and Blizzards. Blizzards because I've been through and survived many of them. Tsunamis because I live in the middle of the Rockie Mountains and if a Tsunami gets me way up here you are all fucked.

The Second Stone
03-14-2011, 11:37 PM
Earthquakes. I've lived through a lot of them and my ancestors have lived through bigger ones, including the 06 SF. I'm prepared for them and know what to do. Even a big one is survivable. Avoid coastal areas and swampy lands and landfills. Stand in a doorway. Don't panic. Keep a towel handy.

dangermom
03-15-2011, 01:04 AM
I've lived in California my whole life and have never felt an earthquake, despite living in the Bay Area for several years and right on the San Andreas for a long time. I've always been at the wrong end of the state or something.

No, earthquakes don't scare me too much, and I'm always puzzled by people who swear they would never live in CA for fear of them. These people are frequently from Tornado Alley or New Orleans or some equally terrifying place where you never know what will happen.

RickJay
03-15-2011, 09:44 AM
I've experienced one moderately shaky earthquake and never want to experience another. It was the one time in my life I have been absolutely, mortally terrified.

Annie-Xmas
03-15-2011, 09:48 AM
I lived through a storm that flooded NJ last March all by myself without electricity and with a full cast on my arm.

I can live through anything.

Roland Orzabal
03-15-2011, 05:37 PM
Depends on what you mean by "fear". And "experienced". :D

Seriously, though, if you mean fear for my life, then I'm least afraid of floods, which I have experienced. Go up = you win. Your stuff is history, but unless you got caught utterly off guard (which can definitely happen, but is rare around here) or do something incredibly stupid, you'll be fine.

If you mean fear of being affected at all, then I'm least afraid of tornadoes. I've seen the aftermath of a couple of tornados in Arkansas (but not the twisters themselves, hence the question about "experienced"), and many streets were quite literally laid out like so:

[Unharmed building][Unharmed building][Pile of rubble][Unharmed building][Unharmed building]

...and so on through the winding, but contained, path of destruction. If a hurricane (was in Ft. Lauderdale in '92, thanks), earthquake, or flood hits your area, you're going to get hit one way or another. Tornadoes seemed to be pretty much a crapshoot...albeit one hell of a price to pay if you lose.