Palin says she has "Fire In the Belly." Is it just gas?

[Profound Gibberish]

OK, just gave that link a little read.

Remember back in the day, the crazy people would type their manuscripts and hand them out on the sidewalk?

Now in the age of the intertubes, they can take their Profound Gibberish and make it look spiffy and almost with an air of legitimacy.

[C3]

McCain's favorite band is ABBA? Huh.

[Chronos]

It's nice to know that the crazies aren't entirely confined to one side of the aisle.

[Kolga]

Everything we know about Sarah Palin is wrong. Her name isn't even really Sarah Palin.

Fortunately, the Truth (http://electnomorespys.blogspot.com/) has been revealed at last!


[Formatting copied from original]

That there is some high-quality, grade-A, pure and uncut crazy. I wonder what the street value of that pile of drugs is?

McCain's favorite band is ABBA? Huh.

Wasn't there a rumor going around that Newt Gingrich's phone rang in front of some reporters while he was speaking in Arizona, and his ringtone was "Dancing Queen?" How does that fit into the pile of crazy?

[Exapno Mapcase]

I love the fact that Palin's entire background in bold letters is fabricated ... and he proves that by referencing Palin's sisters' names.

How far back does this conspiracy go?

[Little Nemo]

My favorite part was how "they" made up Sarah Palin's political record. According to the link, Palin was never actually Governor of Alaska. All "the Feds" did was delete the name of the real governor from every record and substitute in Palin's name in order to make people think she had been Governor.

[Little Nemo]

How far back does this conspiracy go?Well, ABBA's name is a palindrome. And ABBA got together in 1972. But the name of the band was an acronym of names of the four members: Anni-Frid Lyngstad, Bjorn Ulvaeus, Benny Andersson and Agnetha Faltskog. So the planning must have gone back to when they were named in 1945 - which is the same year Hitler supposedly died. Are we supposed to believe this is all a coincidence?

[tnetennba]

Let me know when FIFTY EIGHT PERCENT of Democrats believe this kind of thing (or are unwilling to dismiss it), and then we can talk about how both sides are the same. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/02/large-portion-of-gop-thin_n_445951.html

[RTFirefly]

Very few people know this, but a Jury Summons in Alaska has a loophole that allows one to skip it if they're in Iowa. Weird, huh?

-JoeAnd in Minnesota. Twine Ball or bust! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9yqLbJ4Wk)

[Merijeek]

And in Minnesota. Twine Ball or bust! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp9yqLbJ4Wk)

Well, sure. It's the well-known Corn Belt Loophole. She's also clear on Nebraska and Indiana. Illinois was left off the list because everyone knew they'd produce the US's first Socialist President.

-Joe

[gonzomax]

The bitch quit as elected governor of Alaska and choked in a interview with Couric. How does she qualify for anything?

[Recovering Republican]

The bitch quit as elected governor of Alaska and choked in a interview with Couric. How does she qualify for anything?

Neither of which holds any weight with the typical Republican voter.

Frankly, I think the quitting is a strike against her, or it should be. But spend five minutes on Town Hall or some such, and you'll find she is actually admired for that. She didn't drag the whole state into the left's vendetta against her.

For the Couric interview, this would be the same Couric who was just fired because no one was watching her program, and no one took her seriously as an anchorperson.

[gonzomax]

Neither of which holds any weight with the typical Republican voter.

Frankly, I think the quitting is a strike against her, or it should be. But spend five minutes on Town Hall or some such, and you'll find she is actually admired for that. She didn't drag the whole state into the left's vendetta against her.

For the Couric interview, this would be the same Couric who was just fired because no one was watching her program, and no one took her seriously as an anchorperson.

So her stupid answers in the interview were because of the status of the questioner ,who in warped right wing minds, actually changes the question. Couric spoke English and asked pretty simple questions. Yet you somehow mush believe if Cronkite asked the same questions, Palin would have given better different answers responses?
You are becoming a real joke. Palin can not be defended for quitting or not knowing anything about politics or the world. Nobody tricked her or asked her complex questions. It was practically a chat. Yet as usual ,Palin failed.
But of course, if you are able to sat NO ONE watcher her program, your lack of familiarity with fact is again being demonstrated.

[Chronos]

Actually, quitting as governor of Alaska is the best thing Palin's ever done. It's not often that a single individual can so quickly and so drastically improve the quality of the government of her state.

[Really Not All That Bright]

Are you guys actually thinking that blog is serious or have I been double-whooshed?

[Recovering Republican]

So her stupid answers in the interview were because of the status of the questioner ,who in warped right wing minds, actually changes the question. Couric spoke English and asked pretty simple questions. Yet you somehow mush believe if Cronkite asked the same questions, Palin would have given better different answers responses?
You are becoming a real joke. Palin can not be defended for quitting or not knowing anything about politics or the world. Nobody tricked her or asked her complex questions. It was practically a chat. Yet as usual ,Palin failed.
But of course, if you are able to sat NO ONE watcher her program, your lack of familiarity with fact is again being demonstrated.

Well, if someone understood simple English, they will see that I was speaking of right wing supporters, NOT myself. I'm not thrilled with Palin, and at the moment, she and Romney are the only two candidates who might make me consider voting for Mr. Fail.

The fact is, most of the right (and really, most of America, for that matter) despises journalists, despises the mainstream media, etc. They know they've got an obnoxious liberal slant. They know they foisted a pig in a poke on us. So anything they say is taken with a grain of salt, and you know they probably edited the interview to make the subject look bad.

Also, the questions that she supposedly didn't know.. big whup. She couldn't name what newspapers she reads. Well, guess what, old people read newspapers. Newspapers are dying out, and frankly, I'm kind of feeling about it like I felt when I put down my 19 year old cat last February. Much the same can be said about 5:30 news programs.

[Recovering Republican]

Actually, quitting as governor of Alaska is the best thing Palin's ever done. It's not often that a single individual can so quickly and so drastically improve the quality of the government of her state.

Not really.

Give Palin some credit, she was the one who took on the Oil companies and got Alaskans a share of the booty. Sean Parnell, who succeeded her, is a lot more buddy-buddy with the oil interests.

You see, the funny thing is, as a governor, Palin was actually pretty moderate. She became the darling of the far right because of her social conservative views, and eventually adopted TEA Party views as well.

Another point. It seems to me that you guys are more upset about the candidates you think can't possibly win than you are about the ones who might have a shot. If Palin (or Bachmann) are such awful candidates, wouldn't you want "the One" to face them instead of someone who has a little more credibility like ROmney or Perry?

I'll re-iterate. I don't think Palin is actually going to run. I think she's re-invigorating her brand name so she can sell off her endorsement.

[Ca3799]

So , how was the roll-out of "The Undefeated"? I didn't see much about it in the news. Did it go the way of "Atlas Shrugged"?

[Jack Batty]

She slagged off jury duty to attend the premiere.

[Recovering Republican]

She slagged off jury duty to attend the premiere.


I love it when they reach.

Did you really think that she was going to actually sit on a jury, or any court would put her on one?

[tnetennba]

Woosh.

[Recovering Republican]

Woosh.


Guy, you pretend to care about that stuff, but most people don't.

(which means, you only care about it because it's Palin, and you are trying to find reasons to dislike her.)

[tnetennba]

Guy, you pretend to care about that stuff, but most people don't.

(which means, you only care about it because it's Palin, and you are trying to find reasons to dislike her.)

LOL.

[gonzomax]

Guy, you pretend to care about that stuff, but most people don't.

(which means, you only care about it because it's Palin, and you are trying to find reasons to dislike her.)

Actually most people do. The right wing bubble you are in probably does not. But I suppose you have seen polling which puts her in the absolutely no chance of winning the presidency group. That would surely suggest she has no traction and the people are rejecting her as a very bad candidate . That would be because she in stupid and unqualified. Most of the American people see that. On FOX she is seen as a perspicacious political commentator.
She is travelling the political landscape in an attempt to gain backing. She is failing. Her handlers are trying to get the message through to her. They do not want to waste their time.

[Recovering Republican]

Actually most people do. The right wing bubble you are in probably does not. But I suppose you have seen polling which puts her in the absolutely no chance of winning the presidency group. That would surely suggest she has no traction and the people are rejecting her as a very bad candidate . That would be because she in stupid and unqualified. Most of the American people see that. On FOX she is seen as a perspicacious political commentator.
She is travelling the political landscape in an attempt to gain backing. She is failing. Her handlers are trying to get the message through to her. They do not want to waste their time.

Well, I don't think she's running and never was. She's making more money now that she ever has in her life, why would she give that up? I think she'll keep the poltical strip tease going for as long as possible, but won't go through with it.

Yes, I've seen polling and I largely dismiss it. Let's not forget, in 1991, after the Gulf War, Bush-41 was easily beating all Democratic opponents and many of the big name ones opted out. Bill Clinton at one point in 1992 was running in third place behind Bush and Perot.

Fortunes change. I keep harping on this number, and it gets you all upset and stuff, but no President since WWII has won re-election with an unemployment rate north of 7.4% Only one president (Reagan) has won with it above 5.6%. If the jobs aren't back- soon, the voters are going to be in a very unforgiving mood.

My goal is to find the GOP candidate whom I think will do the best job. I'm against Romney because I simply don't trust the LDS in general or him in particular. He's just too slippery. I also think the MSM is holding back on educating Americans on just how crazy LDS beliefs are until after he locks up the nomination. Then we are going to hear all about magic underpants and Nephites and Lamanites and dark skin being a curse from God and all the other nuttiness.

Palin- I agree. She doesn't have the intellect or skills, and frankly, she quit.

Bachmann- too far to the right, but I dont' dismiss her completely. She's the kind of person who can get things done.

Perry I think is the most credible guy, the one who can bring all the factions together. If he runs. He might not.

Like Pawlenty initially, but he's fizzled like Fred Thompson.

[China Guy]

Well, if someone understood simple English, they will see that I was speaking of right wing supporters, NOT myself.Then why don't you do yourself and all of us a favor and quit shilling for the right wing nutjobs? We're all pretty familiar with their views and how they rationalize it to themselves. Or do the Koch Brothers pay per post these days?

[tnetennba]

...I simply don't trust the LDS in general or him in particular. He's just too slippery. I also think the MSM is holding back on educating Americans on just how crazy LDS beliefs are....

Based on previous posts, you think if people believe something, we owe it to them to respect that and incorporate it until the school's curriculum. You put a lot of stake in the possible umbrage the religious may feel if we choose to disregard their beliefs. While I am unsurprised that you take quite a different view when it's other people's religious views, I thought I would call your attention to this discrepancy in your values system so you can resolve it one way or the other.

[Recovering Republican]

Then why don't you do yourself and all of us a favor and quit shilling for the right wing nutjobs? We're all pretty familiar with their views and how they rationalize it to themselves. Or do the Koch Brothers pay per post these days?

Now funny, over at Town Hall they said Soros was paying me per post.

Right or Left, they all beleive that if anyone doesn't shill for their orthodoxy or deviates it from the least, there must be a shadowy billionaire out there.

Incidently, I wish the Koches or Soros were paying me.

[Recovering Republican]

Based on previous posts, you think if people believe something, we owe it to them to respect that and incorporate it until the school's curriculum. You put a lot of stake in the possible umbrage the religious may feel if we choose to disregard their beliefs. While I am unsurprised that you take quite a different view when it's other people's religious views, I thought I would call your attention to this discrepancy in your values system so you can resolve it one way or the other.

I don't have any religious views, I'm largely an agnostic. I think most religion is silly.

I do have a particularly strong dislike for LDS. Part of it is based on an encounter I had with them when I was in ROTC and dealt with some Cadets from BYU. Slimier, smarmier people you wouldn't want to meet.

That was before I actually made a study of just how crazy their religion is.

But my biggest problem is, that we now know it's a fraud. We know Joseph Smith was just making it up on the fly. We know his goal was to gain power, money and sex, and like any good con man, he found religion was an easier racket than gold hunting scams.

Now, all of that said, (and this really belongs on a Romney thread) if the people of Salt Lake City vote to teach Mormon beliefs in their classrooms, and that's the overwealming opinion, they should be allowed to do that. If a community of Scientologists wants to teach about Evil Space Lord Zenu and they are the majority in that school, they should be allowed to do that, too.

Belief in either disqualifies them from my vote, but they should be allowed to beleive that and teach that if that is what htey believe.

[tnetennba]

For someone interested in "fixing education," you have a rather cavalier attitude about what the schools actually teach.

[Recovering Republican]

For someone interested in "fixing education," you have a rather cavalier attitude about what the schools actually teach.

I work on the theory you catch more flies with honey than vinager.

Much easier to teach if the school is seen as part of that community.

For instance, I grew up in a Catholic neighborhood, SW side of Chicago, working class, blue collar. Our Catholic school was the key part of that community. The Church, the School and the Community all worked hand in glove towards getting these kids educated. I went on to college, most of my classmates went on to college.

In short, it worked because it was a true team effort.

And when I went to college and majored in history, I found there was a lot of stuff the Catholic Church glossed over.

I suspect that if you are in Moose-Jaw Utah and everyone in the community was Mormon, my going in as a history teacher and demonstrating why Joseph Smith was a fraud wouldn't go over very well. Even though that would be historically accurate and even though there would be no controversy about anything else I taught, I don't think the community would be receptive to me. And I don't think they'd like a Teacher's Union coming in and saying, "There's no way you can fire him, ever!"

[Boyo Jim]

... Her handlers are trying to get the message through to her. They do not want to waste their time.

How, in any rational universe, can Sarah Palin's handlers NOT waste time?

[gonzomax]

How, in any rational universe, can Sarah Palin's handlers NOT waste time?

By her actually getting the nomination for president or VP. That is scary.

[Boyo Jim]

Her being the Republican candidate is the best possible news for Obama.

[Fear Itself]

Her being the Republican candidate is the best possible news for Obama.Indeed. I intend to vote for her in the New Hampshire primary, if she is still around.

[Merijeek]

Indeed. I intend to vote for her in the New Hampshire primary, if she is still around.

Waaaaah! Waaaah! Democrat dirty tricks! Go back to France, STALIN!

-Joe

[gonzomax]

Suppose the election machines are really hackable like so many say. She could win. Then what?

[Recovering Republican]

Suppose the election machines are really hackable like so many say. She could win. Then what?


Ahhh, is that how you tell yourself you lost in 2004?

[Rhodes]

...
Now, all of that said, (and this really belongs on a Romney thread) if the people of Salt Lake City vote to teach Mormon beliefs in their classrooms, and that's the overwealming opinion, they should be allowed to do that. If a community of Scientologists wants to teach about Evil Space Lord Zenu and they are the majority in that school, they should be allowed to do that, too.
...(bolding mine)

The people of Sandy, UT (SLC is majority non-LDS) may teach LDS beliefs in their [LDS] classrooms. But a religious majority should not be permitted to withhold a non-religious public education from non-religious students. Public schools must teach science. If any organization wants to teach their kids an alternate non-scientific version of reality, it's their responsibility to fund it with their organization's money.

And in the Mormon suburbs of Salt Lake County, they're doing a decent job. I learned history and physics and biology in Utah public schools from LDS teachers. My world history teacher give a brief disclaimer that she studied evolution at BYU, and then she suggested that if anyone wants to learn about creationism or ID they should transfer to a private school.

[Chronos]

Ahhh, is that how you tell yourself you lost in 2004? Well, we'll never know for sure, since the voting system in Ohio and elsewhere was completely unverifiable. But we do know that the CEO of Dibold publicly promised to get Bush elected.

[BobLibDem]

Now, all of that said, (and this really belongs on a Romney thread) if the people of Salt Lake City vote to teach Mormon beliefs in their classrooms, and that's the overwealming opinion, they should be allowed to do that. If a community of Scientologists wants to teach about Evil Space Lord Zenu and they are the majority in that school, they should be allowed to do that, too.

Belief in either disqualifies them from my vote, but they should be allowed to beleive that and teach that if that is what htey believe.

Absolutely not. No matter how great a religious majority may be in a jurisdiction, they may not use government resources to promote those religious beliefs. If a town in 99.99999% fundamentalist Christan, it doesn't give them the right to teach their beliefs in public school.

[gonzomax]

Ahhh, is that how you tell yourself you lost in 2004?

Is that what I said?

[Recovering Republican]

Absolutely not. No matter how great a religious majority may be in a jurisdiction, they may not use government resources to promote those religious beliefs. If a town in 99.99999% fundamentalist Christan, it doesn't give them the right to teach their beliefs in public school.

well, we should dump the whole concept of one size fits all Public Education to start with, given what a fantastic FAIL it's been. Go back to letting the Churches do it, they do a better job. (And again, I'm an agnostic.) Government shouldn't be in that business because when you get right down to it, they suck at it.

[Fear Itself]

Government shouldn't be in that business because when you get right down to it, they suck at it.Only because they don't have the luxury of turning away special needs kids and expelling underachievers. But such defectives have no right to an education anyway, right?

[Typo Knig]

well, we should dump the whole concept of one size fits all Public Education to start with, given what a fantastic FAIL it's been. Go back to letting the Churches do it, they do a better job. (And again, I'm an agnostic.) Government shouldn't be in that business because when you get right down to it, they suck at it.

RR, my local church-based schools were *very* up-front with us that they were not set up to handle my autistic son and my ADHD daughter. Thanks to the excellent public school system here in Fairfax County VA, my son is a rising senior in high school with a solid B average and college prospects, and my daughter is starting high school with an A- average, and one HS math course credit completed in her 8th grade year. The is no way in heaven or on earth that a ruler-wielding nun would have gotten the same results.

You do not know what you are talking about regardibg public education, and this has nothing to do with the thread topic (Bachman-Turner Overdrive's latest album I think it was - it's been a while). How about we get back to politics where we can pretend our opinions are of value.

[Recovering Republican]

Only because they don't have the luxury of turning away special needs kids and expelling underachievers. But such defectives have no right to an education anyway, right?


I think it's incumbant on their parents to find a school that can handle them.

Of course, if your kid isn't special needs or a troublemaker, but that's where all the resources are going, he's getting the short shrift, isn't he?

Oh, frankly, the Catholic school I went to had a few examples of both, and they handled them just fine. As opposed to public schools, which are "ritalin for everyone!"

[Fear Itself]

Of course, if your kid isn't special needs or a troublemaker, but that's where all the resources are going, he's getting the short shrift, isn't he? Is that all you guys think about? Me! Me! What about me!

[Knorf]

As opposed to public schools, which are "ritalin for everyone!"

Public schools have no authority to dispense pyschostimulants, or an other controlled substance, in case you were unaware of this.

[tnetennba]

Also, 7% of children are "on ritalin" or similar medications. 7% is approximately 93% less than "all."

Is there any difference between children in public schools and children in private schools when it comes to prescriptions? Or put differently, why would you assume there is?

[Kolga]

Also, 7% of children are "on ritalin" or similar medications. 7% is approximately 93% less than "all."

Very slight nitpick - that's close to the estimated percentage of children who are diagnosed with ADD/ADHD (I've seen ranges from 5% to 9%, depending on the survey and year). Other research shows that only about 50% of children with the diagnosis are on medication.

Of course, your statement that 7% is less than "all" remains absolutely valid. As does your question about differences between public and private schools.

[tnetennba]

Very slight nitpick - that's close to the estimated percentage of children who are diagnosed with ADD/ADHD (I've seen ranges from 5% to 9%, depending on the survey and year). Other research shows that only about 50% of children with the diagnosis are on medication.

Of course, your statement that 7% is less than "all" remains absolutely valid. As does your question about differences between public and private schools.

Sorry I didn't provide a cite. My stat was lifted from a DEA report and admittedly took the low number (7-10 was given), but which was only given for boys, so I split the difference (the report said that fewer girls took it).

This is all off topic anyway. Our new friend Recovering Republican has turned every thread into rants about public schools and appeals to mob justice. It's hard to keep them straight anymore.

[Merijeek]

Is there any difference between children in public schools and children in private schools when it comes to prescriptions? Or put differently, why would you assume there is?

Cuz them po' folks who can't afford no drugs on they own ain't gwine skip gittin free pills for they chilluns on the gummint dime?

-Joe

[Chronos]

Quoth Typo Knig:and this has nothing to do with the thread topic (Bachman-Turner Overdrive's latest album I think it was - it's been a while).No, you're thinking of that other thread in this forum that got hijacked. This one is about that guy from Monty Python.

[Kolga]

Sorry I didn't provide a cite. My stat was lifted from a DEA report and admittedly took the low number (7-10 was given), but which was only given for boys, so I split the difference (the report said that fewer girls took it).

This is all off topic anyway. Our new friend Recovering Republican has turned every thread into rants about public schools and appeals to mob justice. It's hard to keep them straight anymore.

Oh, I know. I actually just wanted to provide some support for your attempts to combat the "all our children are being medicated!" inaccuracy that continues to be spouted by people with an agenda.

[Recovering Republican]

Also, 7% of children are "on ritalin" or similar medications. 7% is approximately 93% less than "all."

Is there any difference between children in public schools and children in private schools when it comes to prescriptions? Or put differently, why would you assume there is?

NOBODY should be on effin' Ritalin.

[Typo Knig]

NOBODY should be on effin' Ritalin.

Is this based on any medical training, or just truthiness?

[tnetennba]

NOBODY should be on effin' Ritalin.

Cite?

[OttoDaFe]

It would seem that in addition to an expert on pedagogy, RR is a world-class pharmacologist. Looks like he's givin' Orly Taitz a run for her money when it comes to versatility.

[Recovering Republican]

Gee, and now they are advocating giving drugs to kids as a form of education...

Hmmm....

Hey, what happens to these kids when they become adults?

[tnetennba]

Different things. I know one who works at a history museum and another who is a successful YA novelist.

[Recovering Republican]

Oh, you've totally convinced me. Let's drug all them kids up.

I mean, teaching and parenting are hard work, and we certainly wouldn't want to interupt the flow of Teach Union donations by having those things called "Standards", would we?

[Jinx]

Definitely GAS! That's why no self-respecting "Elephant" stands behind her leadership! ;)

[tnetennba]

Oh, you've totally convinced me. Let's drug all them kids up.

#3 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=615311

I mean, teaching and parenting are hard work, and we certainly wouldn't want to interupt the flow of Teach Union donations by having those things called "Standards", would we?

#1 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=615311

[Recovering Republican]

#3 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=615311



#1 http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=615311

So you're admitting you have nothing additional to add to the conversation other than complaining about me?

[tnetennba]

So you're admitting you have nothing additional to add to the conversation other than complaining about me?

Just trying to help you find your way, grasshopper.

[Recovering Republican]

Just trying to help you find your way, grasshopper.


Personal attacks are now a form of argument. Guy, I've never said anything about you personally here. I don't know you. You're probably an okay guy.

You see, I try to understand all points of view. But what I consider myself today is a pragmatist. I go with what works.

I don't defend things that don't work beause they are on my political side of the fence.

My break with the GOP is that I'm not thrilled with it's slavish devotion to corporate greed and how it manipulates religious fanaticism to get votes over issues they've already lost (abortion) or are inevitably going to lose (gay marriage).

But the left seems to want to be wedded to its own fanaticism. If Public Education doesn't work, throw more money at it. And if you've doubled the amount of money spent since 1994 and you are still getting the same awful results, don't dare question what we are doing.

But if your position is "Joe hurt my feelings, I'm going to start a thread and say nasty things about him", well, that's really not very mature, is it?

[tnetennba]

But if your position is "Joe hurt my feelings, I'm going to start a thread and say nasty things about him", well, that's really not very mature, is it?

Please continue the discussion there.

[Fear Itself]

I don't defend things that don't work beause they are on my political side of the fence. So have you abandoned tax cuts? Because they have never created jobs without growing the deficit.

[Ludovic]

So have you abandoned tax cuts? Because they have never created jobs without growing the deficit.Nor even with growing the deficit, at least in the past 10 years.

[Fear Itself]

Nor even with growing the deficit, at least in the past 10 years.I was being generous, and going back to St. Ronnie.

[Recovering Republican]

Please continue the discussion there.

Not wasting my time. I'll talk to you if you stay on topic on the subject.

Otherwise I'll ignore you.

[Recovering Republican]

So have you abandoned tax cuts? Because they have never created jobs without growing the deficit.


Never was a big fan of them. But I think before we go back to Mr. and Mrs. America and ask them to fork over food to feed their kids- again- we need to get all the waste, BS and inefficiency out of government.

I think the Bush tax cuts ought to be allowed to expire. I've said that more than a few times.

But doing what every business and family has had to do- cut back on expenses- that has to happen, too.

[Typo Knig]

Quoth Typo Knig:No, you're thinking of that other thread in this forum that got hijacked. This one is about that guy from Monty Python.

Sorry, my brain was addled from being in the same ZIP Code as some Ritalin.

[galveston]

Is anyone else hoping she gets the nomination? Because it really seems that she should be unelectable. She's just so... vacuous. There's nothing to her. Has she ever brought up any actual campaign points? She's purely figurehead. Can something like that be elected?

...Well, this is the states we're talking about.

She accomplished more for Alaska in a short term than most of its governors did in full terms. Think record, record, record, and take a deep breath.:D

[Jack Batty]

Think record, record, record, and take a deep breath.:D

DVR'ing Jersey Shore doesn't count.

[Typo Knig]

The idea that someone so often wrong but never in doubt could even be considered presidential timber gives me serious concerns for our republic. Particularly after the recent example of Dubya.

[Really Not All That Bright]

She accomplished more for Alaska in a short term than most of its governors did in full terms. Think record, record, record, and take a deep breath.:D
Too late. It was already canceled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin's_Alaska).

[Merijeek]

Too late. It was already canceled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin's_Alaska).

Which, clearly, makes it the best show ever. Clearly they accomplished all they'd intended to. Why stick around?

-Joe

[RTFirefly]

But the left seems to want to be wedded to its own fanaticism. If Public Education doesn't work, throw more money at it. Cite that public education doesn't work? And if you've doubled the amount of money spent since 1994 and you are still getting the same awful results, don't dare question what we are doing. Cite that the U.S. is spending twice as much money on public education as it was in 1994?

[RTFirefly]

Never was a big fan of them. But I think before we go back to Mr. and Mrs. America and ask them to fork over food to feed their kids- again- we need to get all the waste, BS and inefficiency out of government.

I think the Bush tax cuts ought to be allowed to expire. I've said that more than a few times. So which is it - taxes should go up, or not?

And a cite, please, concerning the amount of "waste, BS and inefficiency" in government.

[Fear Itself]

Cite that public education doesn't work?

Cite that the U.S. is spending twice as much money on public education as it was in 1994?He doesn't do cites (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13985294&postcount=84):I don''t do cites. You guys pretend you didn't see them when I do, so why make the effort?

[gonzomax]

He doesn't do cites (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13985294&postcount=84):

Since he totally ignores all cites that are given to him that prove him wrong, i can see why he does not do cites. Makes perfect sense.
Cites, we don't need no stinking cites.

[RTFirefly]

Palin's movie: is anyone watching it? Apparently not. (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/07/sarah-palin-movie-debuts-to-empty-theater-in-orange-county/241983/)

(Big surprise, huh? :))

[Profound Gibberish]

I heard (in my mind) that the plan is to project the movie onto the side of her One Nation Tour Bus all across the country. This will start someday. . . .sometime. . . . somewhere. But don't ask for specifics or you are just part of the lamestream media conspiracy.

[Recovering Republican]

Since he totally ignores all cites that are given to him that prove him wrong, i can see why he does not do cites. Makes perfect sense.
Cites, we don't need no stinking cites.

Well, given where your cites come from, yeah, they can be ignored.

I did a cite back on the education thing about how education has failed. Several of them. and when I was told it was off topic, I put it on it's own thread in great debates, and got the embarassing spectacle of you guys claiming that it was great that pedophile teachers were making six figures for doing no work because the teacher unions made him impossible to fire.

[Little Nemo]

I did a cite back on the education thing about how education has failed. Several of them. and when I was told it was off topic, I put it on it's own thread in great debates, and got the embarassing spectacle of you guys claiming that it was great that pedophile teachers were making six figures for doing no work because the teacher unions made him impossible to fire.That's because you literally had a cite - a single thirteen year old incident involving one teacher. And while nobody except the voices in your head said it was great, the rest of us didn't see how that one teacher justified overturning the entire national education system.

[Recovering Republican]

That's because you literally had a cite - a single thirteen year old incident involving one teacher. And while nobody except the voices in your head said it was great, the rest of us didn't see how that one teacher justified overturning the entire national education system.

Well, no, I realize that how you'd need to characterize it, but uh, no.

Come on, admit the system is broken. Or maybe that's the idea. I mean, as long as you keep graduating morons who vote for Democrats because they are incapable of fending for themselves, the more you guys create a need for yourself.

[ElvisL1ves]

Whose cause do you think you're helping here? :dubious: