WEEDS Season 7

[Sampiro]

Nancy's back. And Silas is nearly naked. Any love for this return?

[AHoosierMama]

Ordered Showtime just for it. Not disappointed so far. Thought Shane not getting a ticket for Silas was pretty harsh...

[Bob Ducca]

Interesting start to the season. I like how they've jumped ahead a few years, which has given the creator and writers a chance to drop the characters into completely new situations without having to show us how they got there. Silas is a male model. Ok! Shane is a puppeteer and seems to not be nearly as creepy. Ok! Doug is still a pussy hound. Got it! Nancy's a prison-lesbian? Sure, why not!?

I thought the way they disposed of the Estaban storyline was a little too neat, but not really off the wall as far as something that was possbile. Do we know if Nancy had someone carry that out that for her? I feel like that's a very real possibility.

Was the boss at the halfway house the same guy from "Malcolm in the Middle"?

[ZipperJJ]

I was into it. I found myself, as usual, thinking "awww, it's over already?!" at the end.

How old is Shane now?

[corkboard]

I've been catching up on recent seasons lately thanks to streaming from Netflix, and watching 3-4 episodes at a pop. So last night's single ep was over in a flash, making me scream "MORE!" at my screen.

Another season, just as implausible as ever, yet I can't stop watching.

[Dewey Finn]

How old is Shane now?
I'm pretty sure that Shane is at least 18 by now.

[DMark]

Also liked that they jumped ahead three years - nice way to get rid of straggling plot threads and start some new subplots. Will be fun to see them in NYC after watching them from the suburbs to the beaches.
Nancy's new suitcase full of "goodies" is a far cry from selling a bit of weed to pay the mortgage.
Yeah - this show moves along at such a great clip that the half hour seems to fly by in about 5 minutes...wish it were an hour show!

[Sampiro]

I'm trying to remember from last season: did anybody ever say anything about bringing Doug over? I like Kevin Nealon but his character could easily be dropped (just like Celia was).

I wonder if Richard Dreyfuss is going to be on the show this year. He'd definitely wait for Nancy if she got out first or come straight to her when he was paroled.

[Sampiro]

I like the way that the show began as a desperate new widow in the McMansion burbs doing what she felt she had to by sailing pot to make ends meet, but gradually it's revealed that Nancy's "steppin' to the dark side" had been going on since childhood. She had an affair with her married middle aged teacher when she was an adolescent, pawned off another man's son on the husband she loved so much, clearly never really enjoyed the stay-at-home-PTA-mom role, and stuck with the criminal activities time and again when legal ones would have paid as much. She's basically one of the Kill Bill girls who never got the right break.

I do hope that somehow some way they'll run into Heylia in NYC. She's the only character from the early episodes that I miss.

[Minnie Luna]

I wonder about little Stevie. Does Jill have full, legal custody of him and what implications does that have for Nancy? I assume we find out pretty soon.

[Sampiro]

Does anybody know enough about Copenhagen to know if this was filmed on location? And apparently Copenhagen (if the show is to be believed) is similar to Amsterdam as far as canals and drug trade but just not quite as showey.

[levdrakon]

Okay, so we're on episode two. Fun stuff! I wasn't sure at first, but I think I'll like this season.

What scam is Doug running? Or is he? When did he get, you know, athletic at something?

[Dewey Finn]

I don't know that he is running a scam. His friend, who apparently works in finance, wants Doug to join him. Possibly the friend is the one running a scam.

[Sampiro]

What scam is Doug running? Or is he? When did he get, you know, athletic at something?

I'm still working on how (and why) he got to Copenhagen. I can understand why he'd want to go but not why Andy, Shane and Silas would host him. (Kevin Nealon must have an ironclad contract of some sort that couldn't be broken.)

Nancy has officially passed the "She deserves anything that happens to her" mark by getting immediately back into the pot game, in NYC of all places (where I'm guessing there's gonna be a couple of competitors). But at least we get to see some Hunter Parrish skin next week.

[PeacePlease]

I'm guessing that we'll discover that the friend that Doug has hooked up with is running a scam of some kind and wants Dougie to get in on it with him. I, too, found it weird that Doug followed the Botwin's to Copenhagen. I would actually rather have Celia as their tag-along than Doug.

I think the development of Nancy's character has been frickin' fabulous. She's gone from desperate weed-selling soccer mom to FBI informant to wife of Mexican drug lord/politician to ex-con, mother of a murderer looking to re-enter the weed biz in NYC, of all places. She is truly a piece of work! I can totally buy her hooking up with a women in the pen, too! It's the supporting cast that keeps this show kickin' though. LOVE Andy, Shane and Silas. And I can't believe that the bombshell that Silas wasn't Judah's kid isn't going to come in to play again at some point. They just kinda dropped that one and moved on and that was HUGE!!

[levdrakon]

I don't know that he is running a scam. His friend, who apparently works in finance, wants Doug to join him. Possibly the friend is the one running a scam.True, Doug isn't really much of a scam artist, and his friend sounded a bit desperate.

[Sampiro]

And I can't believe that the bombshell that Silas wasn't Judah's kid isn't going to come in to play again at some point. They just kinda dropped that one and moved on and that was HUGE!!

Silas is going by Guinard (his bio-dad's last name) now.

My favorite exchange from the finale:

ANDY- I'm saying goodbye to my nephew

LARS GUINARD- Technically he's no relation to you...

SHANE- Shut the fuck up Lars Guinard.

[levdrakon]

My favorite was:

SMOOCH. "There, now we've made it to first base."

[Sampiro]

My favorite was:

SMOOCH. "There, now we've made it to first base."

I remember thinking "Go for third!", but then I'll admit I have lust in my heart for Hunter Parrish.

[Dewey Finn]

My favorite was:

SMOOCH. "There, now we've made it to first base."
Which episode is that from?

And BTW, in last week's episode in Copenhagen (Season 7, Episode 1), was it just me, or was Silas looking a little flabby? I assumed it was meant to demonstrate that he had been partying a bit too much.

[Sampiro]

Which episode is that from?


Last season's finale. It was in Andy's (intended) goodbye to Silas.

[Bryan Ekers]

While I can imagine Esteban (eventually) being convicted of killing the reporter, I'd've figured his wealth and political connections would have greatly delayed the process. Three years might not be nearly enough time for that to plausible work.

And why were Nancy (and her cellmate) held in a Federal prison? Nancy was in for a manslaughter committed in California, the cellmate for (I assume) a murder in New York... what's the Federal angle?

[Sampiro]

And why were Nancy (and her cellmate) held in a Federal prison? Nancy was in for a manslaughter committed in California, the cellmate for (I assume) a murder in New York... what's the Federal angle?

Good question. Maybe some sort of trafficking across state lines tack-on to manslaughter or part of her plea for turning state's evidence? Who knows.

I wonder if (can't think of his name- Esteban's henchman who was arrested at the same time wearing the toe-shoes) will be on this season. Or Celia or her daughter or any others. The only confirmation I've seen about guest stars is that Martin Short is going to play Nancy's attorney; I wonder if he'll go for a Nathan Thurm type.

[DMark]

Am really enjoying this season, but still wish the shows were an hour long - they just zip by.
A side note:
Recently, a friend was visiting who has worked with Mary Louise Parker (Nancy) and he said she isn't really "acting" much in the series - that is really how she is in real life. I thought he might be exaggerating, but she was on Leno yesterday and, well - she did seem to be in character. He told me a lot of actors don't like working with her as they consider her to be bat-shit crazy.
Regardless - she is, if nothing else, perfectly cast for this show!

[Thing Fish]

Loved the premiere, episode 2 was also good but seemed to go by VERY FAST!

I think we are entering a whole new era of the show. The first three seasons revolved around Nancy's quest to become the top pot dealer in Agrestic and the second three seasons were basically about her relationship with Esteban. It will be very interesting to see what happens next. Love triangle with murderous lesbian and her arms-dealer brother?

Based on what we've seen so far it appears that Nancy has not been rehabilitated in prison, but if anything is even more impulsive and risk-addicted than before (Shane's expression at the very end of episode 2, watching Mom be hauled off for her drug test, was so sad...). It would seem to be a real challenge for Mary Louise Parker to keep the character essentially likable while making her even more of a screwup than she already is!

Maybe Doug will get onto Wall Street and get to be rich again...I hope so, the character hasn't had too much to do the last few seasons.

I just love this show!

[Sampiro]

Heylia!!!!

I hope she's going to be more than a cameo. I always loved that character. Though since she's in California I can't think how they can re-include her.

I wonder if Nancy will see Celia while she's in California.

[corkboard]

I hope not. Celia's storylines always seem shoehorned in, and her character adds nothing to the show. I'd never miss her if they've written her out.

[Bryan Ekers]

Heylia's inflexibility (and stereotyped behaviour) kinda limits her potential as a character, I thought. Nancy'd be better off seeking out Conrad, who showed intelligence and ambition (and could get talked into things if Nancy fucked him), but I guess sass-talkin' black mama characters get more laughs.

Celia was funny, I thought, but so screwed-up I wondered why Nancy tolerated her at all.

[Sampiro]

Heylia's inflexibility (and stereotyped behaviour) kinda limits her potential as a character, I thought. Nancy'd be better off seeking out Conrad, who showed intelligence and ambition (and could get talked into things if Nancy fucked him), but I guess sass-talkin' black mama characters get more laughs.

I disagree. Heylia wasn't unambitious so much as she knew how to make a fat living and keep herself and her family out of real trouble. Nancy was far more ambitious and consequently went on the run from a Mexican drug lord (who'd have killed her already if she hadn't been pregnant) and then spent three years in prison while her family devolved into fooked up trash. Now Nancy's a pathetic and penniless ex-con while Heylia probably has tons of cash (remember when she took a knife to the armchair?) and isn't a blip on police or mob radar.

[voltaire]

So is that tattoo on the back of Nancy's shoulder new? A prison tatt? Can anybody make it out?

[Rainbowthief]

So is that tattoo on the back of Nancy's shoulder new? A prison tatt? Can anybody make it out?

I think it's her kids' names.

[Sampiro]

Speaking of her kids, trying to gain custody of Stevie is probably the least sympathetic thing she's ever done. Whatever she thinks of her sister, at least her sister and brother-in-law haven't been in prison and they obviously want to keep the little boy, besides which they're the only family he knows and, unlike Nancy, they're stable.

I do wonder if Esteban was able to set up a trust fund for the boy, or if he left enough of a legal estate that Stevie will have an inheritance.

[quixotic78]

Speaking of her kids, trying to gain custody of Stevie is probably the least sympathetic thing she's ever done. Whatever she thinks of her sister, at least her sister and brother-in-law haven't been in prison and they obviously want to keep the little boy, besides which they're the only family he knows and, unlike Nancy, they're stable.

I do wonder if Esteban was able to set up a trust fund for the boy, or if he left enough of a legal estate that Stevie will have an inheritance.
For reals. If Silas had a decent moral center (read -- didn't have Nancy for a mother), he would have told the judge, "Leaving Stevie with my aunt is the absolute best decision you could ever make as a judge."

[Sampiro]

Last night's best line was Dean grabbing the gun and asking "Is Celia with you?!" I was expecting him to get blown away (in the 'fatally' rather than 'stoned' sense) in the pot garden.

[corkboard]

Does Hunter Parrish have a clause in his contract requiring a shirtless scene in every episode this season? I'm sure it appeals to some, but it's starting to get a little gratuitous. In one scene he's wearing long pants and a long-sleeved sweatery-type shirt, and the next day he's trimming the pot plants topless.

They should get that clause into Mary Louise's contract.

[DMark]

The great plan of setting up a store front, but selling stuff out the back?
Hmm, seem vaguely familiar with a certain maternity clothing shop a few seasons back.

[Sampiro]

There are all sorts of problems with the plotline of Shane getting tons of loans from different banks. In reality there are many different safeguards in place to prevent people from doing just that.

[Dewey Finn]

The great plan of setting up a store front, but selling stuff out the back?
Hmm, seem vaguely familiar with a certain maternity clothing shop a few seasons back.
Also the cheese shop that Silas uses as a front in the fourth season and the bakery that Nancy uses as a front in the first season.

[Sampiro]

Perhaps Andy's bikes will catch on and outsell the pot. I just can't imagine there being that much demand for new pot dealers in Manhattan when you've got everyone from mobsters to gang members to yuppie bicycle messengers [the one who supplies Doug's office] already dealing; you'd probably have better odds of getting off the bus from Podunkton and becoming the city's hottest (Broadway star or decorator or broker or ad exec) within 3 months than building a ground up "enough to afford a loft and upper middle lifestyle" pot dealer in a huge city where you're unknown, you don't know your way around, you have no protection, you don't know what hands to grease, nobody knows you from a narc, and it's a profession where you really don't need to have any skills but street smarts and common sense [either of which it's arguable whether any of them have] and thus pretty much anybody can enter it.

[ZipperJJ]

Yeah but Nancy and Silas are hot.

[Sampiro]

Yeah but Nancy and Silas are hot.

Hopes of "more nekkid Silas" are definitely an incentive to watch the show. He's got a great spankable bubble booty too.

[voltaire]

Perhaps Andy's bikes will catch on and outsell the pot.
I very much doubt it, since the whole prospect of it is pretty absurd.

[Sampiro]

I very much doubt it, since the whole prospect of it is pretty absurd.

I couldn't quite grasp the concept: it somehow stores the energy from your pedaling and uses it to propel the bike later, is that it? (Plus I'm guessing Andy didn't study engineering with NASA.)

[voltaire]

I couldn't quite grasp the concept: it somehow stores the energy from your pedaling and uses it to propel the bike later, is that it? (Plus I'm guessing Andy didn't study engineering with NASA.)

Yeah, and "storing" energy from your pedaling would just mean that you're working harder to pedal in the first place, not to mention the extra weight it adds to the wheel. I suppose if it used regenerative braking instead of pedaling, it could theoretically work, but on a bike any gains (after increased weight) would be minimal.