GusNSpot, you are one sick fuck

[Guinastasia]

What the FUCK is wrong with you? (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14040024&postcount=16)

If you are waving a flag while standing on or burning or otherwise disrespecting the US of A flag and are in the US of A you should be shot on the spot.
But then I would shoot traitors and be hard on illegal immigrants also but that is just me.

If you have served your country and can prove it with a DD-214, then you can protest and do what you want, up to a point. ( I would draw the line shorter and more restrictive than a lot of other people. ) If not, you're toast.

Other wise, as long as it is not higher than the US of A flag while flown in the US of A or flown by itself in a non confrontational way, I have no problem with it.

YMMV ( No, I don't believe desecrating the US of A flag should be covered by free speech but that does not mean I will not abide by the laws of the land unless I can get away with it in these cases.)


Bolding mine. People like you scare the shit out of me. What do you mean, "unless I can get away with it?" Are you saying you'd actually assault someone if you saw them "desecrating" the flag?

A flag is a symbol. People who believe as you do seem to care more about that symbol than what it stands for. Only you obviously DON'T care what it stands for. One of our most cherished freedoms is allowing citizens to criticize the government. And one way of expressing that is to burn the flag -- it's symbolic. The flag isn't sacred. Descent and freedom are. Including the freedom to disagree. To outlaw that, you make us NO BETTER than those we fight against.

The idea that you think someone should be shot, without a trial, and that you would do so "if you can get away with it", it makes you sound like a fucking psycho.


Let me say -- if they EVER outlaw flag burning, I will be out there burning as many flags as I can.

[Bosstone]

Willing to break the country's law to defend the honor of that country. And the only thing stopping you is the fear of being caught. Way to go, dumbass.

[John Mace]

He shouldn't go around showing off that 3rd grade education like that!

[elucidator]

Third grade was the worst two years of his life.

[Truman Burbank]

They would have given him a social promotion, but he was, well, antisocial...

[El_Kabong]

I always thought of Gusnspot as the sort of guy who would chase kids off his lawn with a shotgun, so this doesn't totally surprise me.

I will say that the most commonly-recommended method of disposal for a US flag must be a real conundrum for him.

[yojimbo]

The founders of your great country wouldn't even waste their time mocking this fool.

[Chefguy]

I always thought of Gusnspot as the sort of guy who would chase kids off his lawn with a shotgun, so this doesn't totally surprise me.

I will say that the most commonly-recommended method of disposal for a US flag must be a real conundrum for him.

Unfortunately, his father forgot to wear one.

[Omg a Black Conservative]

So what's burning an American flag symbolic of?

[elucidator]

Don't know, off hand, how many "protest" type gatherings I've been to. And I have endured many an outrage, up to and including poetry renderings from dollar store Maya Angelous. I heard folks songs from people who can't sing, and speeches from people who can't write.

I never once saw anyone burn an American flag.

[Indygrrl]

Not to mention that you don't get to pick and choose what gets covered by the first amendment. Either we have complete free speech, or we don't have free speech at all. Seems like a patriotic citizen from the U.S. Of A would understand that.

[Maeglin]

Either we have complete free speech, or we don't have free speech at all.

Are you sure about this?

[askeptic]

I'm a vet who served in Iraq and I would defend anyone who chose to burn the flag. In fact I frequently think it should be burned or at least hung upside down...

[askeptic]

Are you sure about this?

Yes.

[elucidator]

In capitalist America, speech frees you!

[Dissonance]

Don't know, off hand, how many "protest" type gatherings I've been to. And I have endured many an outrage, up to and including poetry renderings from dollar store Maya Angelous. I heard folks songs from people who can't sing, and speeches from people who can't write.

I never once saw anyone burn an American flag.Well you must have been too doped up to remember, ya damn hippie.

[elucidator]

That was a yes. Ditto. Upvote.

[elucidator]

Well you must have been too doped up to remember, ya damn hippie.

Get stoned to go to a protest? Make the time pass slower?

[gonzomax]

He would shoot you for doing something to a piece of cloth made in China.

[Indygrrl]

Are you sure about this?

Absolutely.

[Lobohan]

I would shoot someone who looked like he was about to shoot someone for burning a flag.

Hypothetically.

[Guinastasia]

So what's burning an American flag symbolic of?

An expression of one's anger at the state of the country and/or government. What do YOU think it symbolizes?

And even if you disagree with that, do you think someone should be shot for doing so?

[BigT]

Absolutely.

Well, then, I guess we don't have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn't unlimited.

[sinjin]

Well, then, I guess we don't have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn't unlimited.

oooo Gocthya ya. I am totally impressed.

[PlainJain]

Absolutely.
:rolleyes:

[Vinyl Turnip]

Well, then, I guess we don't have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn't unlimited.

True. For example, no matter how intensely I may wish to call you a cuntlapper, or invite you (or another poster) to suck/lick my dick/cock and variants, I'm prohibited from doing so. Should you fuck off and die? I'm precluded from giving my opinion.

I'm sorry. I prefer not to be coy, but we fan the cards we're dealt.

[Manda JO]

I wonder if he goes to the beach and yells at people wearing bikinis made to look like cut-up American flags. Wal-Mart sells these each July 4th season and I do not understand why no one has a problem with it. Or American flag boxers. Or FLIP FLOPS.

Deliberately burning a flag as part of a protest makes sense. Casually using a flag to cover your naked ass is just tack and disrespectful.

[Giraffe]

Well, then, I guess we don't have it, since there are quite a few limitations on free speech. Slander, imminent harm, obscenity, etc.

Yeah, I know what you mean. But it irks me when people forget that even our freedom isn't unlimited.

Thanks for pointing that out. No matter how good a thread is, it could always be better with a little more nitpicking and pedantry. Kudos.

[XT]

He would shoot you for doing something to a piece of cloth made in China.

Whereas Le Jac would shoot you for buying a flag made in China, since you are obviously supporting the swipe-age of an American's job! :p

Some days it just doesn't pay to get out of bed...

-XT

[FoieGrasIsEvil]

At least nobody is burning books.

[Indygrrl]

:rolleyes:

Wow, what a great rebuttal. You must have been captain of the debate club with skills like that.

I don't see what's so eyeroll-worthy about believing in free speech. I'll defend the right to say and do damn near anything that doesn't directly harm another person. That's one thing about this country that we do better than almost anyone else, and when anyone tries to limit that freedom it tells me they don't understand "freedom" like they think they do.

[I Love Me, Vol. I]

He would shoot you for doing something to a piece of cloth made in China.As usual, I will do my patriotic duty as a freedom-loving American and quote Bill Hicks. The comments below were his reaction to a recent (at the time) Supreme Court decision upholding our First Amendment rights.

Did you watch the flag-burning thing? Wasn't that great? Boy, everyone showed their true colors then, didn't they? Retarded nation that we are. Scary.

People just - people acted as though the Supreme Court approved of flag-burning, you know what I mean? . . . People were just: "Hey, buddy. Let me tell you something. My daddy died for that flag."

Really? ...I bought mine... you know they sell 'em at K-Mart and shit. Yeah. Three bucks.

"My daddy died in the Korean War for that flag!"

What a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea!

He didn't die for a fucking flag, it's a piece of cloth. He died for what the flag represents, which is... THE FREEDOM... TO BURN... THE FUCKING FLAG!!

It's best really to watch Hicks say it himself. Here's one great performance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBCkm9-LvRg) of the bit. [NOTE: since he performed it differently every time, the above quote isn't an exact "transcript" of the linked-to video.]

How did such an obvious freedom-of-expression right ever even become questioned? What kind of Anti-American, fascist idiots agitated to have a clear-cut First Amendment right argued before SCOTUS?

What kind of courts were so ignorant of one of the fundamental and most-cherished parts of our Constitution that the case was ever appealed to any higher court?

It's really fucking scary that we have people in our midst who hate freedom so much that they would launch such a totalitarian-type effort, and it's really fucking scary that it wasn't simply laughed out of the very first court it stank up.

[Argent Towers]

I hear people say stuff like what GusNSpot said all the time. Particularly military veterans and older guys and rural people. It doesn't really get to me because I know they're not seriously going to kill someone. They are just really emotional about the flag. I don't have the same kind of attachment to it, though I certainly wouldn't desecrate the flag myself. GusNSpot comes from a different place; he's a vet, a biker, just an all-around good ol' boy. I don't live in a bubble. I know plenty of guys who feel the way he does. Whatever.

[elucidator]

Being raised in Texas, "good old boy" is pretty much debased currency, far as I'm concerned. Mostly, it was mean and stupid dressed up like gusto.

[FinnAgain]

Ahem...

I burning your flag!

[Indygrrl]

I hear people say stuff like what GusNSpot said all the time. Particularly military veterans and older guys and rural people. It doesn't really get to me because I know they're not seriously going to kill someone. They are just really emotional about the flag. I don't have the same kind of attachment to it, though I certainly wouldn't desecrate the flag myself. GusNSpot comes from a different place; he's a vet, a biker, just an all-around good ol' boy. I don't live in a bubble. I know plenty of guys who feel the way he does. Whatever.

"Plenty of guys" saying something doesn't make it any less ridiculous. The idiots who brag about serving their country and fighting for freedom in one breath, while showing such blatant ignorance about what freedom really means are the scariest kind of hypocrites. They're usually the same ones who have little tolerance for anyone who doesn't look, believe, or think just like they do. And the irony is them thinking they're such great Americans while behaving like xenophobic morons.

Good 'ol boys, my ass.

[Bosstone]

Oh, he's a good ol' boy? Well, bless his heart.

[Isamu]

Too much estrogen in this thread for my liking.

Shooting flag burners is just too easy, too antiseptic and, yes, girly. Beat someone to death with your bare fists and people will know you are serious about the flag and all it stands for.

[GusNSpot]

It took me what, 10 years to get a pit thread all my own. w00t!!! ( Well, Monty don't really count. )

Had to really get out there but I got'er done. Bawahahaha

I want to thank Guinastasia for the honor. She has disliked me for almost the whole 10 years.

I must be getting cranky in my old age.

Buy a flag, burn it.
Steal a flag and burn it, not so much.

Thanks for the fun.

[Guinastasia]

I have? Well, that's news to me. I haven't really even paid much attention to you.


burns the U.S. flag on GusNSpot's street while singing "O' Canada!"


(It's the only other national anthem I know.)

[Monty]

Like me, she's probably just not impressed by the stupidity.

[PlainJain]

Wow, what a great rebuttal. You must have been captain of the debate club with skills like that.
I never claimed to be the captain of anything, much less the debate team.

I don't see what's so eyeroll-worthy about believing in free speech.
I do believe in free speech as defined by the First Amendment but your broad-brush doesn't really seem to fit.

I'll defend the right to say and do damn near anything that doesn't directly harm another person.
Defined by whom?

[Anaamika]

First of all, it's probably exactly someone like GusNSpot who bitched out my mom for daring to hang an Indian flag next to the American flag, even though we had hung the Indian flag lower. There is a certain contingent of people who have an extraordinary attachment to the flag.

Secondly, I just wanted to add to the chorus that "good old boys" can rot in hell. This is the Pit, right? Good Old Boys have driven this country to the brink of bankruptcy and they need to step aside and let some younger, smarter folks run the place.

[Gyrate]

I wonder if he goes to the beach and yells at people wearing bikinis made to look like cut-up American flags. Wal-Mart sells these each July 4th season and I do not understand why no one has a problem with it. Or American flag boxers. Or FLIP FLOPS.Ages ago I made a faux bumper sticker (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/Gyrate/bumper1.jpg) about that sort of thing.

[jlzania]

I hear people say stuff like what GusNSpot said all the time. Particularly military veterans and older guys and rural people. It doesn't really get to me because I know they're not seriously going to kill someone. They are just really emotional about the flag. I don't have the same kind of attachment to it, though I certainly wouldn't desecrate the flag myself. GusNSpot comes from a different place; he's a vet, a biker, just an all-around good ol' boy. I don't live in a bubble. I know plenty of guys who feel the way he does. Whatever.

But the real question is, is GusNSpot a baby boomer?

[kidchameleon]

So what's burning an American flag symbolic of?

Burning your dog.

[ZPG Zealot]

So what's burning an American flag symbolic of?

That the flag has inadvertently touched the ground and you are following the old flag lore on how to properly dispose of it.

[ZPG Zealot]

I wonder if he goes to the beach and yells at people wearing bikinis made to look like cut-up American flags. Wal-Mart sells these each July 4th season and I do not understand why no one has a problem with it. Or American flag boxers. Or FLIP FLOPS.

Deliberately burning a flag as part of a protest makes sense. Casually using a flag to cover your naked ass is just tack and disrespectful.

How about those cakes that have a flag in icing? Those icing flags are cut, eaten, and passed through the digestive tract.

[Happy Lendervedder]

How about those cakes that have a flag in icing? Those icing flags are cut, eaten, and passed through the digestive tract.

Oh that's perfectly ok, cuz you're not wiping your ass with the flag, rather you're wiping the flag off your ass.

[Enderw24]

How about those cakes that have a flag in icing? Those icing flags are cut, eaten, and passed through the digestive tract.

They eat breathe and shit the red white and blue.

[Morgenstern]

I have? Well, that's news to me. I haven't really even paid much attention to you.


burns the U.S. flag on GusNSpot's street while singing "O' Canada!"


(It's the only other national anthem I know.)

"Louie Louie" isn't our national anthem anymore?

[Acsenray]

So what's burning an American flag symbolic of?

Ask the guy burning the flag. Honestly, it's usually pretty easy to figure out in the circumstances.

he's ... just an all-around good ol' boy.

Maybe it's symbolic of "all-around good ol' boys can go fuck themselves."

[Vinyl Turnip]

Buy a flag, burn it.
Steal a flag and burn it, not so much.

See? Everyone assumed some kind of "love it or leave it" mentality advocating mob violence against unpopular speech, when in fact he was merely voicing his support for capitalism over socialism.

[BigT]

First of all, it's probably exactly someone like GusNSpot who bitched out my mom for daring to hang an Indian flag next to the American flag, even though we had hung the Indian flag lower. There is a certain contingent of people who have an extraordinary attachment to the flag.

I'd gripe at you, too, if it was the country flag.

They're supposed to be the same height, with the U.S. flag on the right. :D

[NicePete]

Gotta love folks who love the flag more than what it stands for.

[DianaG]

Flag pretty. Flag make nice swishy noise. Flag make friends yell "YEAH!!!" and "USA!!! USA!!!" Flag easy to understand.

[BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed]

I don't see what's so eyeroll-worthy about believing in free speech. I'll defend the right to say and do damn near anything that doesn't directly harm another person. That's one thing about this country that we do better than almost anyone else, and when anyone tries to limit that freedom it tells me they don't understand "freedom" like they think they do.

Are Canada and the UK, for example, substantially limited in freedom then? I realize that the line between complete free speech and a slippery slope to fascism is perhaps a finer line than people would care to believe, but do you really think that laws limiting the most egregious acts of hate speech are bad? I know I'd feel better if we didn't have to put up with backwater shitstains on the news telling me how much faggotry god will not put up with.

[Drunky Smurf]

Either we have complete free speech, or we don't have free speech at all.

I'll defend the right to say and do damn near anything that doesn't directly harm another person.

So you agree we don't have free speech at all since you yourself want to limit it.

That's one thing about this country that we do better than almost anyone else, and when anyone tries to limit that freedom it tells me they don't understand "freedom" like they think they do.

I don't think you understand "freedom" like you think you do since you yourself want to limit it.

[elucidator]

Liberal hypocrisy! Everybody come see the Liberal Hypocrisy!

[Jack Batty]

As pennance Indygrrl is sentenced to shouting "FIRE!" in seven crowded theaters.


Please report back by the weekend.

[elucidator]

Better still, she should do it in theaters showing Sarah Palins bio-puke, The Undefeated. Minimize the damage.

[Jack Batty]

nm

[I Love Me, Vol. I]

Buy a flag, burn it.
Steal a flag and burn it, not so much.Ahhh... so burning a bought-and-paid-for flag is cool; it's STEALING a $10 piece of cloth and burning it that you would shoot a person for (if you knew you'd get away with it).

Well OK then. That's different. I'm sure everyone here would do the same thing. Show's over folks, get off this guy's back.

[Monty]

But the real question is, is GusNSpot a baby boomer?

He's just a moron.

[Peremensoe]

Maybe I was assuming too much, but it seemed to me that Indygrrl's comment about "complete free speech" was in response to the idea that expression could be regulated on intended/inferred message-content grounds ("I don't believe desecrating the US of A flag should be covered by free speech") rather than factors like venue/context ("crowded theater"), libel, copyright, and so forth.

And in that sense, I agree. Freedom of speech must include freedom for viewpoints we disagree with and find offensive, or there is no freedom.

[Cat Whisperer]

<snip> No matter how good a thread is, it could always be better with a little more nitpicking and pedantry. <snip>I think that's the motto for Great Debates, isn't it?

<snip> Good Old Boys have driven this country to the brink of bankruptcy and they need to step aside and let some younger, smarter folks run the place.I think the men who have driven your country to the brink of bankruptcy are plenty smart - they just use it for evil instead of good.

<snip>I know I'd feel better if we didn't have to put up with backwater shitstains on the news telling me how much faggotry god will not put up with.What are the units for measuring faggotry?

[SmellMyWort]

Buy a flag, burn it.
Steal a flag and burn it, not so much.

Thanks for the fun.

Haiku fail.

[Contrapuntal]

Thanks for pointing that out. No matter how good a thread is, it could always be better with a little more nitpicking and pedantry. Kudos.It's not pedantic to point out that this statement -- Either we have complete free speech, or we don't have free speech at all -- is factually incorrect. It's not even close to being right. We have free speech, but it is by no means complete.

[Giraffe]

What are the units for measuring faggotry?
Sticks?

[Malacandra]

When flag burning is made a crime, only criminals will burn flags.

[Der Trihs]

So what's burning an American flag symbolic of?"I'm cold."

[Telemark]

He's just a moron.

He's not just a moron. He's a moron with a gun.

[Manda JO]

Sticks?

Is that imperial or metric?

[Cat Whisperer]

Sticks?
I was thinking more along the lines of something pink and glittery, but that works, too.

[Jack Batty]

Fl-ounces?

[Kobal2]

I would shoot someone who looked like he was about to shoot someone for burning a flag.

Hypothetically.

Is Hitler involved, and is he covered in glue ?

[Súil Dubh]

Oh that's perfectly ok, cuz you're not wiping your ass with the flag, rather you're wiping the flag off your ass.

*golf clap*

[Alan Smithee]

Fl-ounces?
Win.

[Guinastasia]

Not Knowing What Else To Do, Woman Bakes American-Flag Cake (http://www.theonion.com/articles/not-knowing-what-else-to-do-woman-bakes-americanfl,221/)

I was thinking more along the lines of something pink and glittery, but that works, too.

Just buy frosted pink lipstick and you're good to go.

[Monty]

What are the units for measuring faggotry?

Why wouldn't it be faggot (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fagot)?

[ctnguy]

What are the units for measuring faggotry?

Sodometres?

[BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed]

What are the units for measuring faggotry?

Sticks?

I was thinking of metric fucktons myself.

[dropzone]

Metric?

Commie.

[Indygrrl]

It's been quite a while since I've had this many people take something I've said and run with it like this. I guess I'd forgotten just how literally things can get taken around here. So here's a summary of my feelings on free speech.

I believe in complete free speech and free expression, as long as doing so doesn't infringe on another person's civil rights. For example, shouting "Fire!" In a crowded theater is not allowed because it puts people in danger. Also, libel and slander are against the law because spreading lies about someone is an infringement on their civil rights.

Otherwise, I believe in free speech even when it's ugly and offensive, hell, especially when it's ugly and offensive. Those are the times to put our money where our mouths are about that freedom. As far as I'm concerned, people can spout ugliness and hate all day long as long as they aren't inciting violence or infringing on anyone's civil rights. That also goes for artistic expression, or any other form of speech.

Putting limits on speech is a slippery slope that I don't want to go down. I feel more strongly about free speech than I do about almost anything else. And it surprises me that any Dopers feel otherwise.

[Darth Panda]

But the real question is, is GusNSpot a baby boomer?

He could be a fat, skanky, baby boomer :eek:

[dropzone]

Gus may be a boomer, but he's on the early end of it. I've always liked him, but I like most everybody here, and I avoid his politics, which tend to places I'd rather he didn't go.

Indy? She has a head start by being a grrl. I'm a boomer and sexist that way. ;)

ETA: She may not like that. :(

[Monty]

It took me what, 10 years to get a pit thread all my own. w00t!!! ( Well, Monty don't really count. )

I don't really recall you being worth the trouble before to actually devote a thread to you.

[dropzone]

Monty, IIRC, USMC, meet GusNSpot, IIRC, Army. Enjoy yourselves.

[GusNSpot]

Monty, IIRC, USMC, meet GusNSpot, IIRC, Army. Enjoy yourselves.

*snerk*

[Crazyhorse]

In recent years several notable defenders of freedom have misused the American flag. The flag code are optional. Recommendations, not laws.

It is just as much a violation of these recommendations to sign a flag, or make a campaign sign out of one as it is to burn one.

Examples:

Palin (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/10/21/article-1322627-0BB5F51B000005DC-75_468x286.jpg) signing US flag
Bush (http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/images/bushflag.jpg)signing US flag
Bush (http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/images/bush911.jpg)standing on US flag
Obama (http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/images/barackflag.jpg)campaign posters misuse the flag

GusNSpot, keep your powder dry amigo. These violations of the recommendations on flag handling etiquette are going on everywhere!

[Monty]

Perhaps the target of this thread could learn something from Penn & Teller (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF2iX2VG6e4).

[Cartooniverse]

I will say that the most commonly-recommended method of disposal for a US flag must be a real conundrum for him.

+1. Not nearly the only cite proving that the American Legion burns American Flags. All. The. Time. ("http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html)

GusNSpot, you'd better start Reloading For Re-Education, cuz the 'Merriken Legion they be flag burners. Go git em, hoss !!!

Putz. :dubious:

[BellRungBookShut-CandleSnuffed]

As far as I'm concerned, people can spout ugliness and hate all day long as long as they aren't inciting violence or infringing on anyone's civil rights. That also goes for artistic expression, or any other form of speech.

What's wrong with inciting violence? Or rather, what makes inciting violence more deserving of censorship than hate alone? Isn't hate on its own related to violence even if it's not explicit? For example, I don't see a whole lot of difference between "God hates fags" and "Let's kill fags." They're both dehumanizing, and once you dehumanize, you can't be sure where zealots will take things. Why protect one and not the other, or more poignantly, why protect either?

[kaylasdad99]

So what's burning an American flag symbolic of?It's symbolic of respectfully and properly disposing of an American flag that has been besmirched by filth; if the lines on your flagpole should snap in a high wind, and the flag happens to float into a neighbor's open cesspool, you don't leave it there. And you don't pull it out and launder it. Even though it was an accident, the proper way to dispose of the flag is to burn it.

If a vandal cuts the line and the flag falls into the cesspool, the same course of action applies. Malicious mischief caused the befoulming of the of the flag, but the proper response is still to dispose of it respectfully, by burning it.

If anti-American demagogues befoul the flag metaphorically, by, say, proposing an anti-flag-desecration amendment, the proper symbolic response is to respectfully burn a flag by way of disposing of it.

[Indygrrl]

What's wrong with inciting violence? Or rather, what makes inciting violence more deserving of censorship than hate alone? Isn't hate on its own related to violence even if it's not explicit? For example, I don't see a whole lot of difference between "God hates fags" and "Let's kill fags." They're both dehumanizing, and once you dehumanize, you can't be sure where zealots will take things. Why protect one and not the other, or more poignantly, why protect either?

Well, inciting violence infringes on other people's civil rights, offensive opinions do not.

People are free to think and say all sorts of crazy and hateful things, and others are free to disagree and make their own offensive statements. Freedom to be an offensive asshole is an American right! I can't imagine wanting it any other way.

[dropzone]

Freedom to be an offensive asshole is an American right! I can't imagine wanting it any other way.This. America was founded by assholes for assholes. You can't even conceive of rebelling against your king without being an offensive asshole.

[elucidator]

I'd always sort of assumed that being an offensive asshole was a lot of work, but when I stop to think, I realize I don't actually know that. We could ask one, I suppose. Suggestions?

[dropzone]

I'd always sort of assumed that being an offensive asshole was a lot of work, but when I stop to think, I realize I don't actually know that. We could ask one, I suppose. Suggestions?Pot, meet Kettle. If you hadn't noticed, you are both black. ;)

[MsWhatsit]

Oh, I can be an offensive asshole all day long without even breaking a sweat.

[Rysdad]

No matter how good a thread is, it could always be better with a little more nitpicking and pedantry.

'Kay

Descent and freedom are.

"Dissent"

[Indygrrl]

I'd always sort of assumed that being an offensive asshole was a lot of work, but when I stop to think, I realize I don't actually know that. We could ask one, I suppose. Suggestions?

I find it effortless, but then I come from a long line of offensive assholes. It's in my blood.:D

[Guinastasia]

"Dissent"

:smack: Dammit! (This hasn't been my day)

[elucidator]

I find it effortless, but then I come from a long line of offensive assholes. It's in my blood.:D

There is no proven genetic component for rectalmorphism. That one is a choice.