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tdn
07-19-2011, 09:14 PM
Three guys check into a hotel room that's \$30, but it's really \$25, yada yada yada, where did the extra \$2 go?

I'm unable to wrap my head around this.

I was out with a friend. She got an appetizer and a drink. I got dessert and a drink. The drinks were \$5 each, my dessert was \$4. When the check came, it was \$25 and change. I think it was \$25.98, so let's call it 26. For what it's worth, meal tax in this state is 6.25%.

She gave the waitress a credit card with a sticker on it that said "17." I put in a \$20 bill. The waitress brought back \$11 in change. I left some of the change in the check folder as a tip. My friend said "Is that what you're leaving her?" I said "Yeah, she was a good waitress." My friend said "Actually, it's not enough."

I'm good at math, but when I go to a restaurant, my math skills go out the window.

How much should I have left?

ZipperJJ
07-19-2011, 09:20 PM
Hmm...is there a lot of extra info in this post for some reason? Is this a trick?

Cuz usually the formula is "Was the service good enough? If so, 20%."

To get 10% you take the total and move the decimal point one over to the left. 26.00 becomes 2.600.

Multiply that by two and you get 20% (2.6 + 2.6 = \$5.20)

If it was only 15% -good-tip service, divide your 10% in half then add that to the first 10% (2.6 + 1.3 = \$3.90)

That's how I do it...uhm...unless this is a joke thread and I'm being wooshed?

ZenBeam
07-19-2011, 09:25 PM
Your share of the bill was \$9 plus 6.25%? That would be \$9.56. So about a \$2 tip if you tip 20%.

I don't understand the sticker with a "17" part. I guess that means she was paying \$17, and that included a tip. But her share including tax would be over \$16, so that wouldn't leave enough for a tip.

The total tip on \$26 could have been \$5, again for close to 20%.

YaraMateo
07-19-2011, 09:26 PM
I don't understand. Are you paying for her's too or just your's? I would give \$6.00 tip if for all of it. According to what you wrote it seems you only ate 9 dollars worth of things. So, then I'd have left a 2 dollar tip. I don't understand where the 17 and 25 are coming from...

YaraMateo
07-19-2011, 09:27 PM
Now, I get it. She order 17 dollars worth of stuff and with your 9 something, you get almost 26 dollars.

tdn
07-19-2011, 09:27 PM
No, it's not a joke thread.

Yes, we were going for 20%, or at least I was.

How many dollars should I have left? Her \$17 included her part of the tip, so what would my share have been?

Colibri
07-19-2011, 09:30 PM
I'm reading your post to say the total including tax was \$26.00.

Opinions vary whether a "standard" tip is 15% or 20%.

15% = \$3.90
20% = \$5.20

So \$4 to \$5 would be a standard tip, depending on your definition.

How much did you tip?

tdn
07-19-2011, 09:33 PM
Now, I get it. She order 17 dollars worth of stuff and with your 9 something, you get almost 26 dollars.

Either she ate \$17 worth of stuff and left me to pay the entire tip -- which meant her appetizer was \$12, which seems unlikely -- or the 17 included her portion of the tip, which she said it did.

Mama Zappa
07-19-2011, 09:35 PM
So for 26 dollars: your food and drink were 9 bucks. Round that up to 10 to include tax.

You were supposed to leave a 100% tip????

How much was your friend's appetizer? 26 - 9 = 17 exactly so she put a reasonable amount on the credit card. I assume she added a tip when they brought the card and slip back.

A 15% tip on your 9 dollar tab would be 1.35. Say you round that to 1.50 (15% of a 10.00 tab). That's not fantastic and the going rate is more like 18% these days. Let's call it 20. So that's still only 12.00 total. If you expected no change from that 20, you were a VERY generous tipper.

Hell, even if your 20 was supposed to cover your friend's tip as well: 17 on the credit card + 20 cash = 37. That's nearly a 33% tip.

tdn
07-19-2011, 09:38 PM
How much did you tip?

I originally put in \$3, but then I put in another \$2, which means that I left a 50+% tip for my own food. Or about the right amount for the entire check.

Fuzzy Wombats
07-19-2011, 09:41 PM
As others have said, it sounds like she divided the bill in half, and then added a tip from that, rather than accounting for the difference in price (if there was) between a dessert and an appetizer. So, she gets 13 + tip, rather than something closer to 16 + tip.

I think \$2 plus the total of your items would have been reasonable. So, around \$12?

If \$17 included her part of the tip, you should have left \$3 or \$4 tip, but only because you're also covering a portion of the cost of her meal.

As an aside, I'm sure your friend is wonderful, but I don't understand people who do this. If you're paying separately then you pay for what you ate. You don't divide the bill in half and call it even. This is why I like separate checks.

tdn
07-19-2011, 09:42 PM
You were supposed to leave a 100% tip????

No. My stuff came to 9, I left a 20, and got back 11. I left 3, then another 2, so I pocketed 6.

Mama Zappa
07-19-2011, 09:44 PM
So for 26 dollars: your food and drink were 9 bucks. Round that up to 10 to include tax.

You were supposed to leave a 100% tip????

How much was your friend's appetizer? 26 - 9 = 17 exactly so she put a reasonable amount on the credit card. I assume she added a tip when they brought the card and slip back.

A 15% tip on your 9 dollar tab would be 1.35. Say you round that to 1.50 (15% of a 10.00 tab). That's not fantastic and the going rate is more like 18% these days. Let's call it 20. So that's still only 12.00 total. If you expected no change from that 20, you were a VERY generous tipper.

Hell, even if your 20 was supposed to cover your friend's tip as well: 17 on the credit card + 20 cash = 37. That's nearly a 33% tip.

d'oh :smack: - reading for comprehension = total fail; I thought I read that you left the 20 and got no change. Duh!

In your situation, I'd have left 2 bucks or maybe even 3 - which is pretty generous on the 9 dollars. Then again, with a bill that low, the waitress had to do nearly as much work as if you'd ordered a pricier meal, so I tend to tip on the high-ish side for something like that.

3 woulda been plenty, anyway (assuming your friend tipped as well).

ZenBeam
07-19-2011, 09:46 PM
Either she ate \$17 worth of stuff and left me to pay the entire tip -- which meant her appetizer was \$12, which seems unlikely -- or the 17 included her portion of the tip, which she said it did.A 20% tip on \$26 is about \$5, making the total including tip \$31. If her portion of the bill was \$17, including a 20% tip, then your bill including tip would be \$14. Pre-tip, it would have had to be over \$11, rather than the \$9 you indicated in the OP.

Or your friend screwed up. A \$12 appetizer isn't implausible.

tdn
07-19-2011, 09:55 PM
If \$17 included her part of the tip, you should have left \$3 or \$4 tip, but only because you're also covering a portion of the cost of her meal.

As an aside, I'm sure your friend is wonderful, but I don't understand people who do this. If you're paying separately then you pay for what you ate. You don't divide the bill in half and call it even. This is why I like separate checks.

But I don't think it was divided equally. She itemized it and calculated her fair portion and paid that, which was \$3 more than what I paid.

I'm glad that I'm not the only one confused by this. It makes me feel like less of an idiot.

Bosstone
07-19-2011, 09:58 PM
If your recounting is accurate, then I don't think any of that \$17 went to the tip since the server took the \$9 difference from your \$20. If you left \$5, then it was a reasonable amount for the full meal. If she added a tip on the receipt after, then the server got more than enough.

tdn
07-19-2011, 10:05 PM
Or your friend screwed up. A \$12 appetizer isn't implausible.

Maybe I'm more of an idiot than I realize. I went to the restaurant's website and looked at the menu. Her appetizer was \$8, and my dessert was \$6, not \$4. So I paid 11 and got back 9, which means that I transposed those numbers in my head.

I am now officially off of vodka. It makes me :confused:.

ENugent
07-19-2011, 10:11 PM
I would have left \$14 on that. \$11+\$0.69 tax+\$2.31 tip (21% of the pretax bill))

ZenBeam
07-19-2011, 10:15 PM
Hey! You found the missing \$2 from the three-guys-and-the-hotel problem you mentioned in your OP!

\$11 * 1.0625 = \$11.68 after tax. 11.68 * 1.2 = \$14.02 after tip. So your part should have been \$14. Her share of \$17 gives \$31 total for a \$5 tip (assuming the \$26 total was right).

pricciar
07-19-2011, 10:19 PM
Total = \$26
Your Portion: \$5 (for drink) + \$4 (for dessert) = \$9.00
Her Portion: \$5(for drink) + \$12 (it has to be for the bill to make sense) = \$17.00

I don't understand how she left a tip with that \$17. If the drinks were \$5 and desserts were \$4, that means your meal had to be \$9, therefore her meal had to be \$17 to get to the total.

Between her \$17 and your \$20 you paid \$37 for a \$26 meal. You got your \$11 extra back. At this point no tip was paid, and your friend paid \$17, while you paid \$9. As mentioned about 5 bucks is a standard tip on a bill of this size. So, if you would have thrown 5 bucks in you would have paid \$14 in total.

Ahh. I see what the others are saying in your friend's head she was saying "We're splitting the bill and I am paying half at \$13 plus and I'm putting a \$4 tip down" So, she thought she was being generous, and saw that you didn't even pay half and thought you were being pretty miserly.

Huh. New info:
Total = \$26 - \$1.50taxes
Your Portion: \$5 (for drink) + \$6 (for dessert) = \$11.00
Her Portion: \$5(for drink) + \$8(it has to be for the bill to make sense) = \$13.00

So. Now it really makes sense. You friend did it exactly right with a very nice tip.

tdn
07-19-2011, 10:32 PM
Hey! You found the missing \$2 from the three-guys-and-the-hotel problem you mentioned in your OP!

Yep! It makes more sense to me now. I blame my confusion on alcohol (I only had one drink but it was strong), great company, misreading the menu prices, and a distracting Sting concert on the TV.

My bad. My friend is better at math than me.

One thing still confuses me though. If the waitress brought me back a 5 and 4 ones, and I never reached into my pocket for more cash, how did I manage to leave 5 ones as a tip?

I blame Russian vodka.

tdn
07-19-2011, 10:43 PM
So. Now it really makes sense. You friend did it exactly right with a very nice tip.

Yep. Nice friend, great waitress, and everyone's happy.This all settled in my head now. :cool:

Rand Rover
07-20-2011, 12:04 AM
Three guys check into a hotel room that's \$30, but it's really \$25, yada yada yada, where did the extra \$2 go?

I'm unable to wrap my head around this.

I was out with a friend. She got an appetizer and a drink. I got dessert and a drink. The drinks were \$5 each, my dessert was \$4. When the check came, it was \$25 and change. I think it was \$25.98, so let's call it 26. For what it's worth, meal tax in this state is 6.25%.

She gave the waitress a credit card with a sticker on it that said "17." I put in a \$20 bill. The waitress brought back \$11 in change. I left some of the change in the check folder as a tip. My friend said "Is that what you're leaving her?" I said "Yeah, she was a good waitress." My friend said "Actually, it's not enough."

I'm good at math, but when I go to a restaurant, my math skills go out the window.

How much should I have left?I would have (i) put in 2 twenty dollar bills and (ii) left the restaurant.