View Full Version : How do I keep my soda from going flat?
heembo
03-02-2001, 05:47 PM
When I buy a 2 liter bottle of soda, i squeez all of the excess air out of the bottle when i close it up. I think this prevents the soda from going flat much longer than if you just put the cap back on. My roommate says this actually makes the soda go flat faster. Who is correct?
Arjuna34
03-02-2001, 05:52 PM
Have you considered getting two 2 liters of soda and performing an experiment? Drink some from each one, and squeeze the air out of one. Come back a few days later and do a double-blind taste test, or pour 1 shot of each into a glass and measure the fiz.
My WAG is that it depends more on how tight you screw on the cap.
Arjuna34
My WAG is going to be, and always has been, that squeezing the air out makes it go flat sooner or, at least has no carbonation-preserving effect.
My reasoning behind the WAG:
When you open a bottle of soda, the pressure is released and you see a lot of bubbles escaping. My understanding has always been that the pressure in the container keeps the carbon dioxide bubbles in suspension or saturated, or whatever the proper word is for bubbles of gas in a liquid. I have always thought that a good product would be a re-pressurizing cap for bottles. Maybe along the lines of a tiny bellows with a one way valve and a stopper. The idea being that if you apply a higher atmospheric pressure to the inside of the bottle, the bubbles wouldn't be released. then again, maybe I'm nuts.
JeffB
03-02-2001, 06:10 PM
It doesn't make a difference. From the AFU FAQ on Science (http://www.urbanlegends.com/afu.faq/listing.cgi?selection=science):
F. [meaning False] Squeezing out the air from a partially consumed soda bottle will keep soda from going flat.
My 2 liter bottles never last long enough to get flat.
Lance Turbo
03-02-2001, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by Democritus
I have always thought that a good product would be a re-pressurizing cap for bottles.
That is probably why they sell them at grocery stores.
Originally posted by Lance Turbo
Originally posted by Democritus
I have always thought that a good product would be a re-pressurizing cap for bottles.
That is probably why they sell them at grocery stores.
They sell them at grocery stores because I thought it would be a good idea? Cool! I'm famous!
:D
But seriously, I've never seen them. Is the design similar to what I've mentioned?
jbird3000
03-02-2001, 11:41 PM
We used to have a little gizmo that did that. Worked like a charm. It was a little pump that increased the pressure inside the bottle. My guess is that the increased pressure is a less suitable for the carbonization in the soda to go, so it would rather stay put.
kanicbird
03-03-2001, 05:37 AM
Here a way to get max carbination. when you want a drink, break the seal and crack it up side down with the mouth inside a glass. this will get your fingers a little wet. Let the pressure fill the glass. THe close it while still slightly pressurized. Don't squeese.
Also clean the cap and rim before you open it
Chas.E
03-03-2001, 06:21 AM
The amount of gas dissolved in a liquid is proportional to the pressure exerted. This is why you get the bends, in deep waters the pressure is higher and more nitrogen is dissolved into the blood.
To preserve the carbonation in a drink, keep the pressure high. Keep it capped and under pressure.
flyboy
03-03-2001, 08:39 AM
I used to have one of those cap pumps, and it did work, but after a month or two, it was such a pain to keep doing it... pressurizing is pretty easy if you've only poured a few cupfuls of soda out, but that's really not when you need it. It's when it gets near the bottom, and the more empty volume in the bottle, the more pumping you have to do, and, well, it wasn't fun. :(
This has been discussed ad nauseum before, here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=45127) and here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=36372) and here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=30452) and here (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=9072).
robby
03-03-2001, 08:57 AM
Originally posted by Chas.E
The amount of gas dissolved in a liquid is proportional to the pressure exerted. This is why you get the bends, in deep waters the pressure is higher and more nitrogen is dissolved into the blood.
To preserve the carbonation in a drink, keep the pressure high. Keep it capped and under pressure.
I believe it has to do not with air pressure, but the partial pressure of carbon dioxide. Unless you increase the pressure of CO2 above the liquid, the dissolved CO2 will continue to come out of solution (until equilibrium is reached).
Doc Moss
03-03-2001, 09:29 AM
If you want to keep your soda fizzy, simply tighten the cap as tightly as possible when you are done with it. Works like a charm.
DougC
03-04-2001, 01:08 PM
- - - To preserve the carbonation of soft drinks, you have to keep them under pressure with CO2. To do that, you need a seltzer bottle. A cheap plastic one that Google turned up first is here, but many home-brewing suppliers offer this kinda stuff:
http://www.hoptech.com/index.html?http://www.hoptech.com/rootbeer.html
- Also, just a note for the home-experimenter: for drinks, you need 8-gram[/b] CO2 bottles, [i]not the 12-gram ones. The 12-gram ones are for air guns, and have lubricating oil inside them. The 8-gram ones only contain clean CO2. - MC
CandyBoi
03-04-2001, 03:42 PM
I'm not much of a coke drinker myself but my step-dad buys two 1 litter bottles of coke at a time to preserve carbonation.
Eo Echo
03-05-2001, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Doc Moss
If you want to keep your soda fizzy, simply tighten the cap as tightly as possible when you are done with it. Works like a charm.
I've been doing that for years, to the chagrin of my parents, who more than once needed pliers to open a Coke bottle I had capped.
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