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Stoid
03-23-2001, 11:34 AM
it's the Creation vs. Evolution threads. They never stop. They don't even slow down. The origin of humanity is the energizer bunny of debate topics.

It doesn't really bother me of course, because I just don't read 'em, but holy moly, what in god's or Darwin's name can there possibly be left to say?!?! Surely by now the total number of words devoted to this topic here on the SDMB has got to equal a very large book. Give it a rest. Just a little one. For maybe, a week? Okay, a day?

And people thought the election threads were excessive...at least with those, there was new information every day, not to mention an end in sight! Sheesh!

stoid

Polycarp
03-23-2001, 12:06 PM
"It's taking longer than we thought." - Zotti, Adams, & Co. :)

P.S.: Illegitimi non carborundum

Abe Babe
03-23-2001, 01:33 PM
posted by Polycarp:
"It's taking longer than we thought." - Zotti, Adams, & Co.

P.S.: Illegitimi non carborundum

Mr. Zotti gets top billing?? You planning a coup or something.

"Illegitimi non carborundum." Doesnt' that mean something like
Don't let the downers get you, you bastard??
;)

kaylasdad99
03-23-2001, 01:53 PM
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."

Also, interestingly enough, the slogan of the USS Tunney.

Sorry I can't remember the hull number. But neither can the nimrod I work with, who used to serve aboard her.

Anyway, it's razor blades by now. Decommissioned in 1998.

Robot Arm
03-23-2001, 02:44 PM
"Illegitimi non carborundum" doesn't sound quite right, but I saw it described as mock-Latin so there's probably no definitive version. I ran across some variant of this in The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood, I'll track down her exact turn of phrase.

whoami?
03-23-2001, 03:09 PM
BB56. The Internet is a wonderful thang...

McMurphy
03-23-2001, 03:12 PM
Nice phrase! Mind if I use it as a sig?

Bumbazine
03-23-2001, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by Stoid
The origin of humanity is the energizer bunny of debate topics.
That and gun control and "flirt with me, I'm hot!" threads.

I don't go there anymore either. I just stopped in here to join the club, cast my vote, whatever, and to participate in the hijacking thusly:
I remember a DJ out of San Francisco in the late sixties - early seventies who signed off his program with the phrase
"Illegitimi non carborundum", so it's been common usage at least that long. When management made him stop using it, he explaned on the air that he thought it meant "Don't let the bastards get you down." for what that's worth.

Stoid
03-23-2001, 03:53 PM
If it does mean that, it has GOT to be my sig!

stoid

kaylasdad99
03-23-2001, 04:18 PM
for mixing up my fish with my prizefighters. It was the USS TUNNY (SSN682) which used illegitimi non carborundum as her motto.

I am comfortably standing by my translation.

Carry on.

Polycarp
03-23-2001, 04:21 PM
It does mean that, and I meant it for you, Stoid.

Incidentally, it's quite valid, if slightly strained, Latin, depending on the gerundive of the rather rare verb carborare, "to wear away, to erode" (erodere, the word that gave rise to "erode" itself, means "to eat, to eat away, to gnaw" and is also the source for rodent). And, thanks to Carborundum brand abrasive and the corporation of the same name who makes it (like Band-Aid and Scotch tape, it's a trademark that's becoming the common name as well), it's virtually self-translating.

Milossarian
03-23-2001, 05:46 PM
I actually think it's kind of neat how certain topics will get "play" at different times in GD, somewhat out of the blue.

Guns for a few days here, Gays for a few days there. Clinton for a few days here, Bush for a few days there.

You're definitely right that there's a Creationism-Evolution kick at the moment.

Next week it'll be something different. What's so wrong with that?

magdalene
03-23-2001, 06:25 PM
Dearest Stoid, who has been known to start as many as 5 election threads in a single day,

The "don't let those bastards grind you down" thing also shows up in The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood. It is a MUST READ. You, I think, would love it.

Stoid
03-23-2001, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by magdalene
Dearest Stoid, who has been known to start as many as 5 election threads in a single day,



Now, now...it just seemed that way at the time.

After all the grief I was getting, i actually sat and counted one day. I think the total number of threads was around 120. I was responsible for 12, 10% of the total. I was, in fact, the leader. But I had several hot on my heels, with totals of 7, 8, 9.

I was in the grip of a once-in-a-lifetime obsession. I'm better now. :)

stoid

Polycarp
03-23-2001, 07:29 PM
::: lays hands on Stoid's head :::

HEAL!!!!

:D

black rabbit
03-23-2001, 07:40 PM
another useful latin phrase (correct me if I got it wrong):

FVTE TE IPSVM ET CABALLVM TVVM

Robot Arm
03-23-2001, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Robot Arm
...I ran across some variant of this in The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood,...

Originally posted by magdalene
...also shows up in The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood...

I have just got to start typing louder.

Bumbazine
03-23-2001, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Polycarp
::: lays hands on Stoid's head :::

HEAL!!!!

:D
At the travelin' tent shows that's pronounced "HEE..ULLa!" With two syllables and an almost silent Ahh sound on the end. :)

dropzone
03-23-2001, 09:12 PM
Unfortunately, it's taking so long because the creationists are too stupid to realize they are wrong. And they think the same of us evolutionists. We have the weight of scientific and logical authority on our side. They have the weight of (their interpretation of) Biblical authority on theirs. But we all think that, if we just keep talking, the other side will see their folly and it will be all sunshine, lollipops, and roses.

Podkayne
03-23-2001, 10:35 PM
Sorry, dropzone, but I'm pretty sure that lollipops are expressly forbidden in one of the Epistles. And if you want rainbows, well, rainbows lead inevitably to a debate about the Deluge. Roses are okay, though. We can have roses.

dropzone
03-23-2001, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Podkayne
I'm pretty sure that lollipops are expressly forbidden in one of the Epistles.
So, you are a Paulist of some sort? Sorry, but my religion wasn't made up by some guy who never even MET Jesus!

Wait, I'm supposed to be a Lutheran now. Luther really liked Paul, so I guess that isn't true. Anyway, I was always more of a John kinda guy, except when I was into Ringo. ;)

dropzone
03-23-2001, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Podkayne
Roses are okay, though. We can have roses.
However, your rose fetish makes you look more like a Marianist, which is closer to my REAL religion.

Hey, just be glad I didn't suggest you suck my lollipop!

TPWombat
03-23-2001, 11:52 PM
Illegitimi ite domum. ;)

Stoid
03-24-2001, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Polycarp
It does mean that, and I meant it for you, Stoid.


You da Man, Polycarp. I shall put it good use!

By the way, I'm feeling right as rain! <stoid falls to her knees> Tha-ank yew Jayzus!

MsWhatsit
03-24-2001, 02:31 AM
I'm sorry that I have nothing to contribute as regards the OP, but I am amazed to have found someone else who served on the Tunny. My SO was a reactor operator on the Tunny in the late 80s.

It's a small world, I guess.

Podkayne
03-24-2001, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by dropzone
Hey, just be glad I didn't suggest you suck my lollipop!

Hmph. I'm pretty sure that's why St. Paul spoke out against them in the first place. "He who sucketh lollipops hath committed sodomy in his heart. . ."

Signed, Podkayne, a good little Lutheran girl at heart.

vanilla
03-24-2001, 12:28 PM
When I first saw the subject line, I thought you meant bees.
Then, I thought you meant republicans..:)

Stoid
03-24-2001, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by vanilla

Then, I thought you meant republicans..:)

Well, them too.

Ice Wolf
03-24-2001, 07:29 PM
Whenever I see the phrase "creationist vs. evolutionist", I scamper for the hills (real nice, Stoid! Lure a poor simple ice wolf here on false pretences! Thanks a lot, pal!).

The last time I was idiot enough to wade into the quagmire, someone was talking about woodpeckers proving the truth in creationism. And I just HAD to do a Google search, didn't I? BIG mistake. I see models, magnets, or pictures woodpeckers these days, I go curl up in a corner until the madness goes away ...

Hey! Numbskull creationist brainwashers out there! The woodpecker doesn't prove your point, okay?! Got that?!

Excuse me. I need to take my meds now.