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Eve
04-26-2012, 01:57 PM
Long Island Medium. I have never watched it, of course, but the promos send me diving for my remote: some over-tanned, bleached-blonde Lawn Guyland chippie who "can't help it, I'm gifted!" and they always show brief clips of "skeptics" being won over by her amazing powers. "I didn't think it'd be fer real!"

I want to reach into the set, rip her eyes out and shove them up her nose.

Taomist
04-26-2012, 01:58 PM
Anything 'reality'. It's all bullshit. And boring.

silenus
04-26-2012, 02:06 PM
"The Biggest..."
"Real Housewives of..."
"... Wars"

Eve
04-26-2012, 02:22 PM
"The Biggest..."
"Real Housewives of..."
"... Wars"
I would totally watch The Biggest Real Housewives of Wars.

Craz3d117
04-26-2012, 02:24 PM
Probably half the stuff on Discovery Channel and History Channel these days. Swamp People, Swamp Loggers, American Pickers, Ax Men, etc. Pretty much any show about rednecks, fishermen or people buying then selling things. It's not so much the shows themselves, it's the vast quantity of shows that are all the same and the fact they have absolutely no educational value like a lot of shows used to have on Discovery and History Channel.

hogarth
04-26-2012, 02:26 PM
The Nostradamus Effect on the "History" channel. Could Nostradamus have predicated cattle mutilations after 9/11? Tune in for some gormless speculation!

AncientHumanoid
04-26-2012, 02:27 PM
I would totally watch The Biggest Real Housewives of Wars.

Ah, hell yeah!


But, I find most reality shows repulsive. And those 'actuality' shows are even worse. You know, Lizard Lick Towing, Hardcore Pawn, and other re-enactment type shows.

Oddly enough tho, there are some reality shows i do like. The Amazing Race, American Pickers, etc... I guess it's just the jerks+drama+hype+scripted+stupid shows that cause me vomitous outrage.

well he's back
04-26-2012, 02:38 PM
Only recently moved into a place with cable. My first real exposure to many of the horribly sucky appalling shows already mentioned.
But the one whose very existence drives me batshit insane is "Toddlers with Tiaras". No explanation necessary, one would hope.

Zeldar
04-26-2012, 02:50 PM
How long will it be (maybe I just missed it and it's already here) before we get an hour-long weekly show that features "Self-immolating Buddhist Monk of the Week"? I might watch one episode.

Maybe the show is already in the works: http://news.yahoo.com/dalai-lama-laments-latest-tibetan-self-immolations-211728012.html

Morbo
04-26-2012, 03:04 PM
Finding Bigfoot, Ghost Hunters, etc. I feel like shouting "Hey! Let me save you all some time."

aruvqan
04-26-2012, 03:10 PM
I agree about all of the feckless 'reality' shows. Even their damned commercials bother the hell out of me.

I just saw one for the crab fishermen, on a program I DVRd last year, and holy shit, doesn't OSHA have anything to do with fishing industrially? I see crap going on that I wouldn't pull or have done on any vessel I owned. I value my life and all my body parts :eek:

Same goes for the lumber shows - haven't they ever heard of personal safety?

Alias
04-26-2012, 03:15 PM
Hillbilly Handfishin'

I thought it was some kind of parody, until I kept seeing the promos and realized it was real.

Esox Lucius
04-26-2012, 03:29 PM
I can't suspend my disbelief in the supernatural, so any drama that uses supernatural powers to make the world right is off limits to me.

Any reality show, and I mean any. I even stopped watching Dragon's Den when I realized that some people don't have a hope in hell for their crazy business idea and are chosen just for the "entertaining" contempt they'll draw from the panel. (And that was confirmed to me recently from one of the horses' mouths.)

FairyChatMom
04-26-2012, 03:52 PM
Parking Wars. Seriously? A show that follows meter maids and boot-installers? And then we get to hear a bunch of whiny morons bitching about what it costs to get their cars out of impound... Honest to goodness, I don't understand how my otherwise intelligent husband can watch this idiocy! Tho I'd have loved to be in the pitch meeting for this series.

Drunky Smurf
04-26-2012, 04:08 PM
I love Parking Wars because of the idiocy. I love watching the idiots bitch and moan about how it's unfair their car is impounded because they have 86 tickets and no license and no isurance.

My favorite part is the meter maid part. One guy tried to argue that the no parking sign didn't apply to him because he parked on the sidewalk and not the street.

I can't really think of any shows that drive me insane.

AtomicDog
04-26-2012, 04:13 PM
American Idol. I have never watched a single minute of the show, but I am innudated by so-called "news" reports about it.

Der Trihs
04-26-2012, 04:59 PM
Anything 'reality'. It's all bullshit. And boring.
Agreed. I've hated them since they started.

salinqmind
04-26-2012, 05:00 PM
Always and forever, the Kartrashians. Just the sight of them, and they are everywhere, makes my blood pressure go up. There is no end to them. There is no end to the fakeness, the contrived situations, the weddings and parties, the massive houses, not to mention the whiny voice and gigantic ass stuck out at the camera. They spend spend spend millions and make make make millions and use it for absolutely nothing worthwhile but to show jellus peons how so much money can be spent on nothing worthwhile . It's like watching pigs in diamond tiaras rooting around in a sty scattered with solid gold coins, squealing and squabbling and jumping on planes to fun vacations. Everyone seems to loathe them, but that only makes watching them more irresistable? I just don't get it.

secretsmile36
04-26-2012, 05:09 PM
Does anyone hear believe Long Island Medium lady can speak to the dead? How can you explain the things she knows about people? Is it all staged?

kaylasdad99
04-26-2012, 05:12 PM
American Idol. I have never watched a single minute of the show, but I am innudated by so-called "news" reports about it.
Well, for that matter, "news" programming in general.

ALL of it.

News doesn't belong on television screens (and the people who put such programs on the air apparently agree with that assertion, as demonstrated by how much of their content can be accurately pigeonholed as terror, titillation, and various combinations of the two).

I take my lunch break at work at about 3:15 in the morning, and if "World News Now" is playing on the television when I enter the break room I will ALWAYS switch it to channel 5.3 to watch a rerun of Mr. Ed. Because clueless Wilbur Post caving to the stupid demands of a talking horse is LESS insulting to my intelligence than the concept that Pamela Woon telling me what most Yahoo! searches for the past week were about is information about the world that I or anyone else needs to know.

voltaire
04-26-2012, 05:17 PM
Probably half the stuff on Discovery Channel and History Channel these days. Swamp People, Swamp Loggers, American Pickers, Ax Men, etc. Pretty much any show about rednecks, fishermen or people buying then selling things. It's not so much the shows themselves, it's the vast quantity of shows that are all the same and the fact they have absolutely no educational value like a lot of shows used to have on Discovery and History Channel.
I'm most of the way with you on that, and agree with everything you listed, but I really like Gator Boys (which ain't fake) and I somewhat like Pawn Stars. (which somewhat is)

American Idol. I have never watched a single minute of the show, but I am innudated by so-called "news" reports about it.
This, I can totally get behind. I haven't watched a minute of that show or all the others like it, but somehow I still have to hear about them from multiple sources as if they were somehow important or significant topics worthy of discussion.

voltaire
04-26-2012, 05:23 PM
I can answer this without ever having watched the show.

Does anyone hear believe Long Island Medium lady can speak to the dead?No. (It's "here" BTW)

How can you explain the things she knows about people?It's bullshit combined with cold-reading skills.

Is it all staged?Yes, probably combined with the con-artist and cold-reading skills.

Nawth Chucka
04-26-2012, 05:27 PM
I would totally watch The Biggest Real Housewives of Wars.

Or - The Biggest War of Real Housewives. That'd sell tickets.

COPS bugs me as do all the aforementioned 'reality' shows. Hell, the shows on truTV are re-creations, even worse than scripted shows.

JohnT
04-26-2012, 05:33 PM
COPS
"Redneck TV"
Ghost Hunters

secretsmile36
04-26-2012, 05:35 PM
I can answer this without ever having watched the show.

No. (It's "here" BTW)

It's bullshit combined with cold-reading skills.

Yes, probably combined with the con-artist and cold-reading skills.


Yes thanks I couldn't have figured the difference between here and hear on my own. :rolleyes: You're right. If you haven't watched the show you really can't give an educated opinion on it.

Kimballkid
04-26-2012, 05:35 PM
Always and forever, the Kartrashians. Just the sight of them, and they are everywhere, makes my blood pressure go up. There is no end to them. There is no end to the fakeness, the contrived situations, the weddings and parties, the massive houses, not to mention the whiny voice and gigantic ass stuck out at the camera. They spend spend spend millions and make make make millions and use it for absolutely nothing worthwhile but to show jellus peons how so much money can be spent on nothing worthwhile . It's like watching pigs in diamond tiaras rooting around in a sty scattered with solid gold coins, squealing and squabbling and jumping on planes to fun vacations. Everyone seems to loathe them, but that only makes watching them more irresistable? I just don't get it.

Imma jus' gonna leave this here. (http://www.jdjournal.com/2012/04/26/kardashians-renewed-on-e-for-three-more-years/)

Czarcasm
04-26-2012, 05:47 PM
Yes thanks I couldn't have figured the difference between here and hear on my own. :rolleyes: You're right. If you haven't watched the show you really can't give an educated opinion on it.I have seen the show, and she's a piss-poor cold reader.

luv2draw
04-26-2012, 05:47 PM
Oprah. Thank god she's off network TV and has her own station I can avoid.

Sooooooo sick of her holier-than-thou I-know-how-to-deal-with-life attitude. And, especially, annoying when she speaks with someone she repeats her statement/question. Yeah, I know it's a technique for emphasis. I just find it freaking annoying as do I her best friend Gayle.

Make them both go away. Please.

Morbo
04-26-2012, 05:50 PM
There's one I saw an ad for that blew me away. It's for people who bid on unclaimed luggage left at the airport. I mean, seriously? That's interesting to enough people to warrant having a show about it?

"Clothes, socks...a watch! Jackpot!"

Rubixcube
04-26-2012, 05:57 PM
Has everybody forgotten the worst and most rotten shows on the face of the planet? All of the parents involved in both Toddlers and Tiaras and Dance Moms are on my list of people who need to thrown in a cage full of angry honey badgers. That is a very short list. Other than that the shows that bother me most are the ones like Idol or the Kardashians, which get an incredible amount of gossip and news surrounding them, to the point of virtually drowning every other subject.

bouv
04-26-2012, 05:58 PM
I would totally watch The Biggest Real Housewives of Wars.

Elenore Roosevelt by a mile.

voltaire
04-26-2012, 06:14 PM
You're right.Now you're learning! ;)
If you haven't watched the show you really can't give an educated opinion on it.
You don't need to watch some stupid reality show to know that speaking to the dead is bullshit and mediums are con-artists. In fact, the less of that kind of show you watch, the more educated your opinion on the matter would tend to be.

AncientHumanoid
04-26-2012, 06:27 PM
Now you're learning! ;)

You don't need to watch some stupid reality show to know that speaking to the dead is bullshit and mediums are con-artists. In fact, the less of that kind of show you watch, the more educated your opinion on the matter would tend to be.

Hear here!

secretsmile36
04-26-2012, 06:37 PM
Now you're learning! ;)

You don't need to watch some stupid reality show to know that speaking to the dead is bullshit and mediums are con-artists. In fact, the less of that kind of show you watch, the more educated your opinion on the matter would tend to be.

You may think that not watching reality shows puts you on some kind of pedestal. It does not.

secretsmile36
04-26-2012, 06:38 PM
Hear here!

:rolleyes:
I thought this thread was about TV shows?

Eve
04-26-2012, 06:50 PM
Does anyone hear believe Long Island Medium lady can speak to the dead? How can you explain the things she knows about people? Is it all staged?
I have a tiny, mild curiousity as to whether she is delusional or a straight-out con artist, but finding out would involve watching her show, which might prove fatal (then she could tell me directly!).

Nawth Chucka
04-26-2012, 06:52 PM
Elenore Roosevelt by a mile.My money's on Queen Elizabeth having the stamina to outlast Mrs. Roosevelt.

AncientHumanoid
04-26-2012, 07:02 PM
:rolleyes:
I thought this thread was about TV shows?

Entertainment is where I find it. ;)

panache45
04-26-2012, 07:11 PM
Every single show mentioned in this thread.

Peter Morris
04-26-2012, 07:12 PM
:rolleyes:

Jeez, you people are really driven batshit insane by the mere existence of these shows?

A lot of these shows I have no interest in watching at all. So I don't. That's all it takes. Just don't watch them if you don't like them. If other people like that sort of thing, let them watch. No skin off my nose that the show exists.

So far, the only sensible objection is the fake medium show.

Dewey Finn
04-26-2012, 07:14 PM
Always and forever, the Kartrashians.
Similarly, Jersey Shore. Amazingly enough, the cast of that show get at least $100,000 per episode. And MTV airs this show instead of music videos.

Boyo Jim
04-26-2012, 07:15 PM
The Discovery Channel ran a brief reality series called Impaled a few years ago. Yes, it's as bad as you think, though IIRC it only featured people who survived. Searching for it reveals only a couple of message board comments on it -- I think Discovery buried the program in shame.

kaylasdad99
04-26-2012, 07:18 PM
You may think that not watching reality shows puts you on some kind of pedestal. It does not.Correct.

WATCHING them, OTOH puts one in some kind of a pit, which does establish non-watchers as being on a higher level. :p

Accidental Martyr
04-26-2012, 07:47 PM
Does anyone hear believe Long Island Medium lady can speak to the dead? How can you explain the things she knows about people? Is it all staged?

In case you haven't figured out yet what cold reading is (as others have pointed out).
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_reading

ExTank
04-26-2012, 07:50 PM
Always and forever, the Kartrashians. Just the sight of them, and they are everywhere, makes my blood pressure go up. There is no end to them. There is no end to the fakeness, the contrived situations, the weddings and parties, the massive houses, not to mention the whiny voice and gigantic ass stuck out at the camera. They spend spend spend millions and make make make millions and use it for absolutely nothing worthwhile but to show jellus peons how so much money can be spent on nothing worthwhile . It's like watching pigs in diamond tiaras rooting around in a sty scattered with solid gold coins, squealing and squabbling and jumping on planes to fun vacations. Everyone seems to loathe them, but that only makes watching them more irresistable? I just don't get it.

This is what I came in to say, but you said it so much better.

secretsmile36
04-26-2012, 07:54 PM
sIn case you haven't figured out yet what cold reading is (as others have pointed out).
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cold_reading


I am familiar with the term. She doesn't just do cold readings though. She often knows things that no one else would know about the person. I'm not saying I believe she talks to the dead. I said before that I'm wondering if it is staged and if the people she does the readings on are in on it.

ZPG Zealot
04-26-2012, 07:57 PM
Does anyone hear believe Long Island Medium lady can speak to the dead? How can you explain the things she knows about people? Is it all staged?

She's good at reading non-verbal cues and has probably done some basic research about common history of the recent past and basic psychology/counseling. A lot of things many people think are very specific to them are actually common life experiences.

Roadfood
04-26-2012, 08:07 PM
You're right. If you haven't watched the show you really can't give an educated opinion on it.That is incorrect. Or, ok, partially incorrect. It is true that without having watched the show, I cannot really have an opinion on its entertainment value.

However, the question you asked was whether that medium can really talk to the dead. And on that I can most certainly have a highly educated opinion that she most certainly cannot. I am educated enough about physics and chemistry and biology etc. to have the firm opinion that talking to the dead is as close to impossible as anything can be.

Without having seen the show, I would ask you this: Has this medium ever related something from "the dead" that some other currently living person did not already know? I will bet you that she has not, and that therefore the most likely explanation is that what she relates does not come from the dead but rather from the currently living. If you watch such a show and react with, "How could the medium possibly know that?" then you're just falling into the trap. Instead, ask yourself, "Does the dead person's living relative already know everything that the medium is telling them?" Looking at it that way, it's far less impressive.

For example, Medium says, "Your father used to read you 'Cinderella', it was your favorite bedtime story when you were six." Wow, how could the medium possibly know that? Lots of ways. The point, though, is that the son/daughter already knew it. Which is more likely, that the medium really talks to the dead, and the dead want to talk about what they read to their child as a bedtime story? Or that the medium just found out some tidbits that the person already knows, and used that?

The day that one of these mediums relates specific directions to the box buried in the backyard that contains the dead person's stash of vintage porn that he had told no one about, then I'll be impressed.

Peter Morris
04-26-2012, 08:08 PM
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I am familiar with the term. She doesn't just do cold readings though. She often knows things that no one else would know about the person. I'm not saying I believe she talks to the dead. I said before that I'm wondering if it is staged and if the people she does the readings on are in on it.


See also Hot Reading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_reading).

And, yes, phony psychics do use stooges.

MacTech
04-26-2012, 08:11 PM
Or you could watch the South Park documentary on cold readers, it's called "The Biggest Douche in the Universe", very well done documentary.

jordanr2
04-26-2012, 08:12 PM
I've seen a few episodes of How I Met Your Mother and it got on my last nerve.

Beyond that, most home makeover shows are tiresome (the one where folks are shown three desirable residences and must choose one has some vague appeal).

And shows chronicling the doings of people who've had too many kids are pretty unbearable: none of this is cute or admirable, these people need to be firmly sat in chairs and shown sad pictures of children waiting to be adopted.

I like Jersey Shore a lot but most shows in the same genre (pretty much anything dealing with morons' mundane behavior) are consistently irritating.

davidm
04-26-2012, 08:15 PM
She's good at reading non-verbal cues and has probably done some basic research about common history of the recent past and basic psychology/counseling. A lot of things many people think are very specific to them are actually common life experiences.
Or the whole thing is scripted. I wouldn't dismiss that possibility.

But yeah, it probably is cold reading; combined with editing to leave out the misses. Like the old John Edward show on SciFi.

Skara_Brae
04-26-2012, 08:40 PM
Beyond that, most home makeover shows are tiresome (the one where folks are shown three desirable residences and must choose one has some vague appeal).



I used to like House Hunters, until I learned it is totally fake. (The people involved have actually bought their house, and have never seen the other two before. Presumably, you can tell in the earlier episodes, since its the only house without furniture.) I can't stand to watch it now...

The King of Soup
04-26-2012, 08:45 PM
I saw a program yesterday that I would not have believed possible, even though, I have to admit, all of the elements existed on other shows I knew about. The premise: a couple's car is repossessed, and the unlucky pair is then given a chance to win it back in an impromptu quiz show held next to the tow truck with the neighbors comprising the studio audience. Just another in the long line of shows whose entertainment value lies in contempt for the poor and uneducated, but it gave me an idea. If you want to make this concept interesting, take it away from the repo men and give it to mortgage companies, or better yet, Child Protection Services:

"Okay, Mr. and Mrs. Smith, for 27 dollars and your baby, what is the capital of Ohio?"

Batsinma Belfry
04-26-2012, 08:45 PM
Similarly, Jersey Shore. Amazingly enough, the cast of that show get at least $100,000 per episode. And MTV airs this show instead of music videos.

This is what I popped in to mention. Also, The Real Housewives of.....
And the "I'm young and beautiful, but have to win a husband, in a televised contest" shows, make me sad.

Cat Whisperer
04-26-2012, 08:45 PM
Has everybody forgotten the worst and most rotten shows on the face of the planet? All of the parents involved in both Toddlers and Tiaras and Dance Moms are on my list of people who need to thrown in a cage full of angry honey badgers. That is a very short list. <snip>Those are about the only two that I wish would go away, too. I can live with just not watching other shows that I think are stupid; I think those two shows are actively evil.

ExTank
04-26-2012, 08:49 PM
:rolleyes:

Jeez, you people are really driven batshit insane by the mere existence of these shows?


Yes. Literally. When I even contemplate their existence, I get this. (http://www.cinemaspartan.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/arnold-total-recall-4-650x411.jpg)

Three times in one day is a new personal record. Thanks Pete. :dubious:





:p

Procrustus
04-26-2012, 08:53 PM
There are many many shows I would never watch. Some of those mentioned here would be on the list. And, I don't think I'm a TV snob, I try not to judge. I'm sure I have tastes that many others would question.

BUT, there is one show that stands out above all others, that its very existence does drive me insane with anger. That show is Dancing With the Stars.. I don't like dancing. I certainly dont like watching dancing, and i don't particulary care about b-list celebrities. I am angry that this show exists and that anyone would watch it.

Thanks to the OP, I can get that off my chest. Thank you.

detop
04-26-2012, 08:55 PM
<snip>However, the question you asked was whether that medium can really talk to the dead. </snip>
Actually, I believe she can talk to the dead as a matter of fact, anyone can. The real question is : "Does the dead talk back to her ?"

living_in_hell
04-26-2012, 09:10 PM
Anything with a Vampire. Enough with the fucking vampires already. Seriously. Unless you're Count Chocula, get the hell back in your stupid coffin.

salinqmind
04-26-2012, 09:26 PM
:rolleyes:

Jeez, you people are really driven batshit insane by the mere existence of these shows?

A lot of these shows I have no interest in watching at all. So I don't. That's all it takes. Just don't watch them if you don't like them. If other people like that sort of thing, let them watch. No skin off my nose that the show exists.

So far, the only sensible objection is the fake medium show.

Don't watch them? I WISH. I have to spend several hours a week with some elderly relatives who are obsessed with the Kardashians (did you know that show is on for hours, every day and every night? hour after hour, reruns and new?) I go over there and I'm a captive audience! Enough, I told them, we're going to watch the fake medium show while I'm over here, or Dr. Phil, or hillbillies catching catfish by hand - turn off the damn Kardashians!

Boyo Jim
04-26-2012, 09:46 PM
...Has this medium ever related something from "the dead" that some other currently living person did not already know? ....

This would be even easier to fake. "Did you know your departed husband was a cross-dresser when he went out of town and on the way to and from work had sex with stray dogs?"

"No, I didn't know any of that!"

C. Montgomery Burns
04-26-2012, 10:04 PM
All of these things should go away. Except that if they went away, what would happen to The Soup?

Musky Moon
04-26-2012, 11:03 PM
I thought I read somewhere that Anonymous has set it's sites on Toddlers and Tiaras. Agree with them or not on their politics and tactics, I was thrilled to hear this.

Cat Whisperer
04-26-2012, 11:58 PM
I thought I read somewhere that Anonymous has set it's sites on Toddlers and Tiaras. Agree with them or not on their politics and tactics, I was thrilled to hear this.
Yay!

GuanoLad
04-27-2012, 12:54 AM
Any of those Ghost Hunter type shows, which I have never seen, but just the whole idea of them make my blood boil.

Maiira
04-27-2012, 01:03 AM
Finding Bigfoot is stupid, though the SCP Foundation's version of Bigfoot (http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1000) kind of makes for interesting headcanon. "Oh, they work for the Foundation, it all makes sense now!"

grude
04-27-2012, 01:13 AM
Any of those Ghost Hunter type shows, which I have never seen, but just the whole idea of them make my blood boil.

What bugs me is they don't even try to show the property they are investigating, its a bunch of people in the dark screaming OMG DID YOU FEEL THAT? A COLD BREEZE! OMG SOMETHING JUST BRUSHED PAST ME, TOTALLY GUYS NOT JOKING!

For hours and hours and hours and hours.........:eek:

My god who besides a brain damaged chimp could sit there and watch these shows? A small child could see the moronic trickery going on and turn away!

straykat23
04-27-2012, 01:36 AM
This hasn't even been aired yet, but it's the Russell Hantz (Survivor asshole) new show; definitely the worst of the worst.


(http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/05/16/survivor-russell-hantz/)

straykat23
04-27-2012, 01:43 AM
Sorry! I haven't been around here for a while and my link didn't appear. Fucking cancer..... I'll try again somewhere....later.

voltaire
04-27-2012, 02:39 AM
You may think that not watching reality shows puts you on some kind of pedestal. It does not.

You may think that I said that not watching reality shows puts me on some kind of pedestal. I did not. At all.

In fact, I actually mentioned two reality shows that I do watch. Read for comprehension.

Chronos
04-27-2012, 02:49 AM
I'm surprised that I'm the first one to mention 24. I have a low tolerance for psychopaths being lauded as heroes.

Jenaroph
04-27-2012, 08:39 AM
What bugs me is they don't even try to show the property they are investigating, its a bunch of people in the dark screaming OMG DID YOU FEEL THAT? A COLD BREEZE! OMG SOMETHING JUST BRUSHED PAST ME, TOTALLY GUYS NOT JOKING!

For hours and hours and hours and hours.........:eek:

My god who besides a brain damaged chimp could sit there and watch these shows? A small child could see the moronic trickery going on and turn away!

I'm with you on these. You know what I might watch? A ghost hunting show that was ACTUALLY skeptical. "Well, we heard this whispering noise up the back bedroom - here's a recording *whoooshooshsooosh* - so the next morning, taking advantage of the, you know, DAYLIGHT, we looked around and found the window frame wasn't caulked very well on the outside. It was a windy night, and the breeze was whistling through the gap in the caulk. We replicated the sound using a Vornado aimed at the window."

Woeg
04-27-2012, 10:04 AM
I'm with you on these. You know what I might watch? A ghost hunting show that was ACTUALLY skeptical. "Well, we heard this whispering noise up the back bedroom - here's a recording *whoooshooshsooosh* - so the next morning, taking advantage of the, you know, DAYLIGHT, we looked around and found the window frame wasn't caulked very well on the outside. It was a windy night, and the breeze was whistling through the gap in the caulk. We replicated the sound using a Vornado aimed at the window."

When it first started, this is what Ghost Hunters was. They have long since abandoned debunking for the "WOO WOO DRAMA".

Munch
04-27-2012, 11:26 AM
And, yes, phony psychics do use stooges."Phony" psychics? Why the qualifier - aren't they all?

Saint Cad
04-27-2012, 11:41 AM
Only recently moved into a place with cable. My first real exposure to many of the horribly sucky appalling shows already mentioned.
But the one whose very existence drives me batshit insane is "Toddlers with Tiaras". No explanation necessary, one would hope.

I concur simply because I beleve most of those parents should be up on child abuse charges.

"Duck Dynasty" just from the commercials seems to be characters trying to act as retarded as possible. Three Stooges meets Jackass. At least stop trying to convince us it's real. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far.

Grey's Anatomy. W T F is this still on the air. I saw the first two episodes of Children's Hospital on Adult Swim and the parody was better than the original.

Half of History Channel and H2. I think the last show I saw was how Hitler's brain communicated with a UFO via psychic abilities to convince Oswald and Jimmy Hoffa (the man on the Grassy Knoll) to kill Kennedy. The fact that Hoffa disappeared afterwards proves it as does Nostradamus' prediction.

UncleRojelio
04-27-2012, 01:41 PM
"What Would You Do?" is the worst kind of idiocy. No entertainment value. No educational value. No drama. No nothing. The only thing worse on TV is when 'news' programs substitute opinions for news.

Mahaloth
04-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Does anyone hear believe Long Island Medium lady can speak to the dead? How can you explain the things she knows about people? Is it all staged?

You should have seen the John Edwards show. He was really amazing. Of course, all he did was cold-read and listen to recordings of people's pre-show conversations, but he was a very talented actor/faker/psychic guy.

This hasn't even been aired yet, but it's the Russell Hantz (Survivor asshole) new show; definitely the worst of the worst.


(http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/05/16/survivor-russell-hantz/)

Wow, I'm surprised they gave him a show. He'd have to be a pain to work with.

DianaG
04-27-2012, 01:55 PM
No mention of Dr. Oz? I mean, Toddlers and Tiaras is evil, but not "You can cure your cancer with eggplant" evil.

Infovore
04-27-2012, 01:57 PM
The 700 Club. Back when Whose Line Is It Anyway? used to be on the Disney Family channel, we'd turn it on to go to sleep to, but the 700 Club was on right before it. Every time I tuned in early and saw Pat Robertson's creepy face and listened to his crawly voice, I couldn't get to the remote fast enough to shut it off.

Note that while I do dislike televangelists as a class of people, Pat (and his equally creepy looking son) are the only ones who get this reaction from me.

Irishman
04-27-2012, 02:11 PM
Does anyone hear believe Long Island Medium lady can speak to the dead? How can you explain the things she knows about people? Is it all staged?

A mix of cold reading, hot reading, barnum statements, the forer effect, combined with judicious editing, selective memory, and perhaps a dose of deliberate fakery.

I'm with you on these. You know what I might watch? A ghost hunting show that was ACTUALLY skeptical.

In theory, that is what Fact or Faked: The Paranormal Files on the SyFy Channel does. They scrutinize the suggested videos and stories, they call fake on a number, they discount anything that looks obviously fake and try to pick the best examples that could conceivable be true, or at least aren't immediately obvious. They then go investigate them, and attempt to replicate the stories or video.

They have managed to successfully debunk some incidents. Like one UFO that was seen during the day in a metropolitan area. They not only deduced it might be a large balloon, replicated the balloon and demonstrated that it looked the same and the location, but they actually idenfied someone who confirmed it was a balloon on that date and time being used for some sort of publicity stunt/commercial/movie something or other (my memory isn't precise). They also demonstrated one where a car "magically" teleported through a chainlink fence. The demonstrated that if you run a car through a chainlink fence, the fence tears loose from the posts, folds out of the way, and then springs back into position afterwards and looks like nothing happened. (I have seen a similar situation, a buddy at work had a car accident and witnessed it happen.)

However, I find I cannot watch the show because of a couple of factors. First, the staging of the show still uses too much "let's go out in the woods where this monster that is attacking sheep was spotted and try to find it in the dark, by ourselves, with only cameras and thermal imagers". Second, the "dramatic music" used over such segments grates on my nerves and ears, and makes the show intolerable. Also, while they attempt to be skeptical, some of them are a little too credulous in their results when they don't solve the case. There was one, for example, where they attempted to replicate a string of lights in the sky. They tried three or four methods of replication, including bouncing lights off a glass sheet and lighted balloons. When none of their methods successfully replicated the results in the video, they drew the conclusion that there might be something to that claim. No, the proper conclusion is "we were unable to replicate the effect and explain what it was". But I give them points for trying.

Nawth Chucka
04-27-2012, 02:15 PM
The 700 Club. Back when Whose Line Is It Anyway? used to be on the Disney Family channel, we'd turn it on to go to sleep to, but the 700 Club was on right before it. Every time I tuned in early and saw Pat Robertson's creepy face and listened to his crawly voice, I couldn't get to the remote fast enough to shut it off.

Note that while I do dislike televangelists as a class of people, Pat (and his equally creepy looking son) are the only ones who get this reaction from me.You haven't watched the Jack Van Impe show then.

kath94
04-27-2012, 02:34 PM
"What Would You Do?" is the worst kind of idiocy. No entertainment value. No educational value. No drama. No nothing. The only thing worse on TV is when 'news' programs substitute opinions for news.

"What Would You Do?" is just "Candid Camera" with a pseudo-moral, holier-than-thou slant. Hate, :mad: hate, :mad: hate.

Bridget Burke
04-27-2012, 02:49 PM
Spinster that I am, I control the remote at my house. Perusal of the TV schedules & advertising have informed me of numerous shows that might drive me batshit insane.

But I don't have to watch them, so they don't.....

Evil Captor
04-27-2012, 03:10 PM
Finding Bigfoot, Ghost Hunters, etc. I feel like shouting "Hey! Let me save you all some time."

It's the fact that they are on the SyFy Channel that bugs the hell out of me. Hey, I'm a big fan of fantasy and science fiction, and the thing is I KNOW it's fiction! I like science too, the REAL thing, not that woo-woo shit they keep putting on the SyFy Channel. Woo has got NOTHING to do with science fiction and fantasy, so long as they are maintaining that on some level the shit they are doing is for real. That should be on ANOTHER channel, the IDIOT channel.

Barking Dog
04-27-2012, 03:54 PM
My money's on Queen Elizabeth having the stamina to outlast Mrs. Roosevelt.

First or second? Beth 1 isn't in the contest, having never been married. I'll put my money on Marie Antoinette. A bit long odds, I know. But I bet when it comes down to the blood and bruised knuckles, she's a scrapper.

Death of Rats
04-27-2012, 04:05 PM
I love Parking Wars because of the idiocy. I love watching the idiots bitch and moan about how it's unfair their car is impounded because they have 86 tickets and no license and no isurance.

My favorite part is the meter maid part. One guy tried to argue that the no parking sign didn't apply to him because he parked on the sidewalk and not the street.

I can't really think of any shows that drive me insane.

I find it amazing how many people in Detroit an dPhilly have no freaking clue what a "No Standing" zone means.

In theory, that is what Fact or Faked: The Paranormal Files on the SyFy Channel does. They scrutinize the suggested videos and stories, they call fake on a number, they discount anything that looks obviously fake and try to pick the best examples that could conceivable be true, or at least aren't immediately obvious. They then go investigate them, and attempt to replicate the stories or video.

They have managed to successfully debunk some incidents. Like one UFO that was seen during the day in a metropolitan area. They not only deduced it might be a large balloon, replicated the balloon and demonstrated that it looked the same and the location, but they actually idenfied someone who confirmed it was a balloon on that date and time being used for some sort of publicity stunt/commercial/movie something or other (my memory isn't precise). They also demonstrated one where a car "magically" teleported through a chainlink fence. The demonstrated that if you run a car through a chainlink fence, the fence tears loose from the posts, folds out of the way, and then springs back into position afterwards and looks like nothing happened. (I have seen a similar situation, a buddy at work had a car accident and witnessed it happen.)

However, I find I cannot watch the show because of a couple of factors. First, the staging of the show still uses too much "let's go out in the woods where this monster that is attacking sheep was spotted and try to find it in the dark, by ourselves, with only cameras and thermal imagers". Second, the "dramatic music" used over such segments grates on my nerves and ears, and makes the show intolerable. Also, while they attempt to be skeptical, some of them are a little too credulous in their results when they don't solve the case. There was one, for example, where they attempted to replicate a string of lights in the sky. They tried three or four methods of replication, including bouncing lights off a glass sheet and lighted balloons. When none of their methods successfully replicated the results in the video, they drew the conclusion that there might be something to that claim. No, the proper conclusion is "we were unable to replicate the effect and explain what it was". But I give them points for trying.

My problem with this show is that they are getting a little too desparate for video and try too hard to see paranormal things in ones that are obviously not. Like the video of the Alien walking behind the Argentine (I think) reporter that was OBVIOUSLY a bad CGI added later. It took them an expensive trip to <whatever SA country it was from> and THREE failed experiment to notice that the video looked totally wrong and had the shadows going the wrong way. Something I noticed the first time they showed the clip.

Infovore
04-27-2012, 04:06 PM
You haven't watched the Jack Van Impe show then.

I just watched a couple minutes of a Jack Van Impe video on YouTube. You're right, he's creepy too. But not as creepy as Pat.

I know it's not cool to make fun of people for their looks, but Pat doesn't even look *human*. He looks like a space alien wearing a human suit...badly. Combine that with his message (I agree, Jack is every bit as creepy message-wise) and it's just...<shudder>

Spectre of Pithecanthropus
04-27-2012, 04:08 PM
I can't get this worked up over any TV series. Unlike commercials, you can simply decide not to watch a scheduled TV show.

Lust4Life
04-27-2012, 04:47 PM
I totally loathe and despise the shows, usually "talent" shows, but including Big Brother, where thicko couch potatos can feel important by voting off some completely forgettable nonentity each week.

And in between, swoon and gush over fake spats between the talentless nobodys, aided and abetted by "celebrities" who play good cop/bad cop with them.

After the artificial assistance promotionwise finishes, the winners of these tend to fade into obscurity in a short while, or end up appearing as the panel/judges on equally dire crap fests.

God I hate them !

But apart from that I have no strong views on the subject.

Jenaroph
04-27-2012, 04:49 PM
In theory, that is what Fact or Faked: The Paranormal Files on the SyFy Channel does. They scrutinize the suggested videos and stories, they call fake on a number, they discount anything that looks obviously fake and try to pick the best examples that could conceivable be true, or at least aren't immediately obvious. They then go investigate them, and attempt to replicate the stories or video.


I have seen an episode or two of this, I think. I wanted to give it a chance, but when they went to debunk a case of "ghost children push a car off the train tracks, saving the occupants" (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/handprint.asp) it took them till the end of the segment to "realize" that the section of road wasn't flat, and if you put your car in neutral, it tends to roll by itself off the tracks. They had to investigate all the woo-woo shit first, including researching if a busload of kids ever really died there, and dusting the back of the car with powder to see if any ghostly children's handprints showed up. The whole time they're doing that stuff I'm sitting there yelling at the TV, "For pete's sake, drop a handful of marbles and see what they do! That's the EASY PART!"

Nawth Chucka
04-27-2012, 05:35 PM
First or second? Beth 1 isn't in the contest, having never been married. I'll put my money on Marie Antoinette. A bit long odds, I know. But I bet when it comes down to the blood and bruised knuckles, she's a scrapper.
I meant Mystery Option #3, actually, Bertie's wife Elizabeth the Queen Consort who vexed Mr. Hilter so much. Plump, energetic country gal who could roll w/ the punches and hold her liquor; not like your wan, simple-minded Austrian teen, hardly worth a pence. Would get your back either, I'd wager.

Ya know, Prince Andrew served in the Falklands War, can we count Fergie as a War Wife?

Nawth Chucka
04-27-2012, 05:36 PM
I just watched a couple minutes of a Jack Van Impe video on YouTube. You're right, he's creepy too. But not as creepy as Pat.

I know it's not cool to make fun of people for their looks, but Pat doesn't even look *human*. He looks like a space alien wearing a human suit...badly. Combine that with his message (I agree, Jack is every bit as creepy message-wise) and it's just...<shudder>You mean to tell me Rexella won't haunt your dreams w/ her breathy introductions?

Chronos
04-27-2012, 05:41 PM
I meant Mystery Option #3, actually, Bertie's wife Elizabeth the Queen Consort who vexed Mr. Hilter so much. Plump, energetic country gal who could roll w/ the punches and hold her liquor; not like your wan, simple-minded Austrian teen, hardly worth a pence. Would get your back either, I'd wager.
Plus, played by Helena Bonham Carter. That doesn't hurt either.

Czarcasm
04-27-2012, 05:52 PM
You mean to tell me Rexella won't haunt your dreams w/ her breathy introductions?You kids have it so easy-I grew up watching Kathryn Kuhlman.
"I beleeeeeve in miracullllls!"

Steve MB
04-27-2012, 06:00 PM
Without having seen the show, I would ask you this: Has this medium ever related something from "the dead" that some other currently living person did not already know? I will bet you that she has not, and that therefore the most likely explanation is that what she relates does not come from the dead but rather from the currently living. If you watch such a show and react with, "How could the medium possibly know that?" then you're just falling into the trap. Instead, ask yourself, "Does the dead person's living relative already know everything that the medium is telling them?" Looking at it that way, it's far less impressive.

OTOH, if no living person knows the answer to the question, the medium can say any damn thing.

The trick is to come up with a question for which no answer is currently known, but for which any asserted answer can be easily tested and found either true or false (e.g. "what sequence of left and right turns will get me to a given point in an unexplored maze?").

Infovore
04-27-2012, 06:12 PM
You mean to tell me Rexella won't haunt your dreams w/ her breathy introductions?

She did look a tad...um...undead, now that you mention it.

snowthx
04-27-2012, 07:41 PM
Any show that has a laugh track should just be put out of it's misery. I catch my kids watching this inane crap and tell them they are getting dumber just by watching it. Disney and Nickelodeon are guilty here. I am OK with those filmed before a live audience with real laughing, but the ones with the canned laughter are just stupid - if we have to be cued as to when to laugh it is not funny. At. All.

AuntiePam
04-27-2012, 08:32 PM
I'm getting a bit bored with the genealogy/ancestry shows where the descendants of slaves and slaveowners act like they knew nothing about the practice. "Human beings were packed on ships, chained together? And sold? Do people know about this?"

secretsmile36
04-28-2012, 08:39 AM
You may think that I said that not watching reality shows puts me on some kind of pedestal. I did not. At all.

In fact, I actually mentioned two reality shows that I do watch. Read for comprehension.



You implied it. Frankly I'm really sick and tired of you following me around the board and insulting me. It's getting rather old.

twickster
04-28-2012, 09:33 AM
Voltaire, secretsmile36, both of you knock it off.

If you have a problem with each other, take it to the Pit. This thread, and this forum, are not the appropriate places for this squabbling.

No warning issued -- but the next time you address each other directly in this or any other thread outside of the Pit, I will.

twickster, Cafe Society moderator

Eve
04-28-2012, 12:37 PM
I'm getting a bit bored with the genealogy/ancestry shows where the descendants of slaves and slaveowners act like they knew nothing about the practice. "Human beings were packed on ships, chained together? And sold? Do people know about this?"
I had to stop watching Your Ancestors Owned Henry Louis Gates' Ancestors, And He Hates You For It.

Zeldar
04-28-2012, 12:40 PM
I had to stop watching Your Ancestors Owned Henry Louis Gates' Ancestors, And He Hates You For It.

Beautiful! Accurate!

shy guy
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
The news. Dear god, the news. To the extent that any news broadcast I've ever seen provides actual information, it's invariably much more shallow and basic than what you would get in a print source, or even certain radio broadcasts. But more often "news" just code for "telling lies about important current events" or "assuring idiots that their moronic views of the world are valid." And that's just the national, CNN-style news; local news is even more useless.

And it's genuinely destructive. People make harmful decisions based on this nonsense.

I will also second the "Long Island Medium" type shows. If nobody believe that hokum, I wouldn't really care, but the fact that some people genuinely believe this asshole is communicating with the dead genuinely drives me crazy.

njtt
04-28-2012, 03:26 PM
The problem with this thread is that anyone capable of responding directly to the OP is, ipso facto, batshit insane.

AncientHumanoid
04-28-2012, 03:32 PM
The problem with this thread is that anyone capable of responding directly to the OP is, ipso facto, batshit insane.

That's not a bug, it's a feature.

Barking Dog
04-28-2012, 03:57 PM
twickster, has anybody told you lately that you are particularly fetching when your mod hat is on? rawr! :p

Jenaroph
04-28-2012, 04:13 PM
Thought of another - Storm Chasers, When Weather Changed History, or any other such show on the Weather Channel. Knock it off. If I'm watching the Weather Channel, it's not because I want to see a show about some guy chasing some tornado in Oklahoma 5 years ago, I want to know about the tornadoes that are popping up in my area right now.

tumbleddown
04-28-2012, 05:14 PM
Any reality program that isn't based on competition within an explicit skillset. Even The Amazing Race shows, by how teams are weeded out in the early weeks, that it's a show about teamwork, logical problem solving, memory and paying attention to detail, and it almost always comes down to the team that has those mastered and has the best physical fitness.

Cooking? Skill. Singing? Skill. Designing clothing or interior spaces? Skill.

Top Chef, American Idol (though I don't watch), Project Runway? They're game shows. Fine.

But people put in a house? People famous for being famous? People doing bizarre jobs or weird hobbies or getting tattooed? Oh hell no.

Irishman
04-30-2012, 05:32 PM
My problem with this show is that they are getting a little too desparate for video and try too hard to see paranormal things in ones that are obviously not. Like the video of the Alien walking behind the Argentine (I think) reporter that was OBVIOUSLY a bad CGI added later. It took them an expensive trip to <whatever SA country it was from> and THREE failed experiment to notice that the video looked totally wrong and had the shadows going the wrong way. Something I noticed the first time they showed the clip.

Yeah, I had to give up on the show, sometimes they're just a little too credulous.

Jenaroph, I give them half credit for trying, but sometimes they take the long way to get to an answer, and sometimes they don't get an answer. I can't think of any examples offhand, but I do recall a few where I was scratching my head as why they took approach A to solve the problem, rather than jumping to approach B, which was much more likely and easier to test.

bmasters1
05-01-2012, 09:34 AM
With regard to "reality," the only show like that that I ever truly enjoyed was TV's Bloopers and Practical Jokes w/Dick Clark and Ed McMahon (that, and the specials with just Clark). Every other reality show since has been utterly abhorrent to me.

MsWhatsit
05-01-2012, 09:47 AM
With regard to "reality," the only show like that that I ever truly enjoyed was TV's Bloopers and Practical Jokes w/Dick Clark and Ed McMahon (that, and the specials with just Clark). Every other reality show since has been utterly abhorrent to me.

Oh man, I miss that show. I used to love when I was a kid and it would come on!

bmasters1
05-01-2012, 10:12 AM
Oh man, I miss that show. I used to love when I was a kid and it would come on!

I saw it quite a few times on TNN (before it became The National Network, and now Spike). I'd kill for a DVD release of it, now that both Clark and McMahon are gone.

StGermain
05-22-2012, 04:11 PM
Long Island Medium. I have never watched it, of course, but the promos send me diving for my remote: some over-tanned, bleached-blonde Lawn Guyland chippie who "can't help it, I'm gifted!" and they always show brief clips of "skeptics" being won over by her amazing powers. "I didn't think it'd be fer real!"

I want to reach into the set, rip her eyes out and shove them up her nose.


I think the Furniture Psychic (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=129400&highlight=Furniture+Psychic) is just a little green with professional envy.

StG

Folacin
05-22-2012, 05:08 PM
I have seen an episode or two of this, I think. I wanted to give it a chance, but when they went to debunk a case of "ghost children push a car off the train tracks, saving the occupants" (http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/handprint.asp) it took them till the end of the segment to "realize" that the section of road wasn't flat, and if you put your car in neutral, it tends to roll by itself off the tracks. They had to investigate all the woo-woo shit first, including researching if a busload of kids ever really died there, and dusting the back of the car with powder to see if any ghostly children's handprints showed up. The whole time they're doing that stuff I'm sitting there yelling at the TV, "For pete's sake, drop a handful of marbles and see what they do! That's the EASY PART!"

I know you know this, but if they do the easy thing first, they don't have a show (or they have a 5 minute show).

On the other hand, by "investigating" the woo first, they drag the woo-believing viewers in. That leaves the (extremely small) possibility that one of them will begin to question their belief in woo.

yeah, I'm an optimist

Saint Cad
05-22-2012, 06:39 PM
Any reality program that isn't based on competition within an explicit skillset. Even The Amazing Race shows, by how teams are weeded out in the early weeks, that it's a show about teamwork, logical problem solving, memory and paying attention to detail, and it almost always comes down to the team that has those mastered and has the best physical fitness.


Except that TAR is getting to the point where none of that matters. The season Kiesa and Jen won, they were given answers to almost all of the problems and followed the others. The won by completing one task (the mobile home layout). Last year the favorites were knocked out because a cab driver (not even the contestants) decided to follow another cab. The bunching points take away any advantage, especially now that the rest times are whatever the producers want so they all effectively start out together.

And to your point, everytime TAR moves further away from skill, I find it harder to watch.

terentii
05-23-2012, 01:05 AM
Every single show mentioned in this thread.

Even Mister Ed?!? :eek:

Jilaad
05-23-2012, 02:48 AM
Secret Life of the American Teenager