View Full Version : Who's the most hated TV character?
Don Draper
05-15-2012, 05:41 PM
I saw a promo for the upcoming season of TrueBlood in June, with a brief shot of the cliffhanger from last season - Tara with a big gaping head-wound after being shot point-blank by Alcide's girlfriend. The cliffhanger was supposed to keep viewers in suspense, fretting over the fate of Sookie's best friend. But by then, Tara had become such an irritating character, most of the fans were elated by the thought that she might die.
Anyway, that got me to thinking about "hated" characters. I've been on the SDMB for many years now, and of course followed many of the same shows that much of CS denizens often discuss. Invariably, even the most beloved shows have at least one character who is the subject of intense hatred by viewers. I'm just wondering who is the most hated out of all the hated TV characters?
I'm limiting the topic of conversation here to scripted TV series, since reality TV seems to have no other purpose than depicting hateful vile people whom most rational folks would detest (presumably so that the viewing audience can feel superior to them.)
Also excluded are guest stars, or recurring characters (so Lwaxana Troi is out), or characters who have intentionally obnoxious personalities (like, say, Dwight Schrute.) I'm more interested in characters who are supposed to be sympathetic, and whom the audience is supposed to be like and have a vested interest in, yet most fans of the series just can't stand. The list of characters in the poll ought to give a good idea of what I mean. (I compiled the list based on years of reading CS threads about the various shows.)
It can be for any reason - badly written characters, characters with no direction, or characters played by bad actors. Who does the CS hate & despise more than any other?
silenus
05-15-2012, 05:45 PM
I had the perfect answer until I got to "supposed to be sympathetic."
Red Barchetta
05-15-2012, 06:33 PM
I had the perfect answer until I got to "supposed to be sympathetic."
Joffrey?
silenus
05-15-2012, 06:34 PM
J.R.
Tamerlane
05-15-2012, 06:35 PM
Of the listed characters on shows that I actually watched much of, Twiki is the only one who set my teeth on edge, even as a kid. I tolerated his vastly annoying presence only because of the allure of Wilma Deering and Princess Ardala ;).
The rest are mostly in the meh range for me or I'm just not familiar enough to have an opinion. I did fairly religiously avoid/ignore Wesley Crusher storylines, but he was more boring than annoying ( though his character concept was exceptionally dumb ).
The Man With The Golden Gun
05-15-2012, 06:41 PM
Joffrey Baratheon would be my pick, too.
Mahaloth
05-15-2012, 07:11 PM
J.R.
Is he supposed to be sympathetic, though? I've never seen the show.
Unauthorized Cinnamon
05-15-2012, 07:17 PM
Yup, Joffrey was my first thought. Upon reading the parameters, I voted for Lori. Every episode I wish for her to become zombie chow in the most spectacular, gruesome way possible.
Suburban Plankton
05-15-2012, 07:19 PM
Scrappy Doo, followed closely by Cousin Oliver.
Actually, I take that back. It's really not that close.
Infovore
05-15-2012, 07:21 PM
Ugh, out of the available list Twiki wins hands down. I hated him even as a kid. That stupid "biddi-biddi-biddi" thing he did before he said anything made me want to rip his little robot head off.
NoClueBoy
05-15-2012, 07:25 PM
I liked Colin Baker's Doctor. It was the writing that sucked in many of his eps.
For what we could've seen with him, look at The Two Doctors ep.
John DiFool
05-15-2012, 08:09 PM
Hated for in-universe reasons, or for out-of-universe reasons? I for example, as I detailed in that recent X-Files thread, used to hate Alex Krychek with a passion-but he was a bad guy (and a bastard to boot) so I guess you were supposed to hate him, so characters like him didn't seem to make the cut for this poll (tho some of the shows in question I never watched).
Wesley Crusher by contrast wasn't deliberately written to be hated, but more savvy viewers loathed him because of his Marty Stu/author avatar characteristics (I actually identified with him, being something of a child prodigy myself).
I'd be more interested in a poll on the former type, myself.
etv78
05-15-2012, 08:12 PM
J.R.
The only correct answer!
I always thought the seventh doctor was the most hated, or perhaps that was a uk thing. Sylvester Mcoy was generally a bad comedian/clown and his assistant was Bonnie Langford, who played annoying characters in childrens television...
My friends who are fan swore that they were brought in by the BBC to kill off the series...
Odesio
05-15-2012, 08:14 PM
I don't remember Conner from Angel being hated so much. He was dropped from the show because of a drug/alcohol problem.
My bad. Wrong actor I think.
Motorgirl
05-15-2012, 08:20 PM
Ugh, out of the available list Twiki wins hands down. I hated him even as a kid. That stupid "biddi-biddi-biddi" thing he did before he said anything made me want to rip his little robot head off.
It's a tossup between Twiki and Muffy the robot dagget from the original Battlestar Galactica. Or maybe Boxey.
Krokodil
05-15-2012, 08:24 PM
Pete Campbell is coming up quickly.
astro
05-15-2012, 09:35 PM
The girl with the kinda big tits who wore skintight tops on Dr. Who. "Peri" or something? She was a British woman who tried to affect a US accent. Insanely annoying.
Here she is! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVN9WaKBVvw)
and here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAb2_QjqtNQ)
Don Draper
05-15-2012, 10:49 PM
Hated for in-universe reasons, or for out-of-universe reasons? I for example, as I detailed in that recent X-Files thread, used to hate Alex Krychek with a passion-but he was a bad guy (and a bastard to boot) so I guess you were supposed to hate him, so characters like him didn't seem to make the cut for this poll (tho some of the shows in question I never watched).
Wesley Crusher by contrast wasn't deliberately written to be hated, but more savvy viewers loathed him because of his Marty Stu/author avatar characteristics (I actually identified with him, being something of a child prodigy myself).
I'd be more interested in a poll on the former type, myself.
Definitely "out of universe" reasons. A character like Krychek who's written to be a villain or a bastard is one thing, but I'm thinking more along the lines like Wesley where the producers seemed to think the audience would LOVE to see the continuing adventures of a boy genius who saves the day again & again.
I don't remember Conner from Angel being hated so much. He was dropped from the show because of a drug/alcohol problem.
My bad. Wrong actor I think.
Yeah, sounds like you've confused Conner (Angel's incredibly loathesome brat of a kid) with Doyle (played by Mark from Roseanne, a character fairly well liked but not around very long, actor died a few years later).
A shame Kennedy isn't on the poll. Worst character in the entire Buffyverse. But she's not, so I guess I have to vote for Conner instead.
Max the Immortal
05-15-2012, 11:12 PM
Odd that Scrappy Doo isn't on the list, given that he's the trope namer (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheScrappy).
Johnny Q
05-16-2012, 12:09 AM
No "love" for Horatio Caine? How soon will it be before Caruso starts saying he was playing the character as a douchebag?
GuanoLad
05-16-2012, 01:46 AM
Lucas Wolenczak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucas_Wolenczak)
Oh, and you list a lot of Doctor Who characters, but don't include Mel Bush, who was also annoying when she was Violet Elizabeth Bott Bonnie Langford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_Langford)
Twiki's the only one I even dislike up there. Only Scrappy can possibly compete with how much I hated him, though.
Gagundathar
05-16-2012, 02:50 AM
Though both Twiki and Peggy Hill are annoying enough to make watching their respective shows difficult, there is a burning white-hot furnace of unrelenting hate for the character known as Wesley Crusher. Ever since the halcyon days of the Usenet group alt.wesley.die.die.die, I have been an anti-fan of that horrible little man.
What is quite amusing is that now Wil Wheaton has one of the funniest blogs on the Web.
2sense
05-16-2012, 03:03 AM
I voted for Twikki but yeah, Scrappy Do was the worst of all. I never thought Star Trek TNG was that great a show. I only watched it occasionally and didn't see much of Crusher. I actually associate Wil Wheaton with Big Bang Theory.
Dendarii Dame
05-16-2012, 07:43 AM
Viki on Small Wonder. Gah!
Gyrate
05-16-2012, 07:50 AM
Scrappy Doo, obviously, but I stopped watching 24 mid-Season 2 entirely because Kim Bauer refused to die. Ye gods, that girl was irritating (physical hotness notwithstanding).
I had the perfect answer until I got to "supposed to be sympathetic."
Yeah, I can forget my write-in vote for Judith Harper.
well he's back
05-16-2012, 09:17 AM
I grew to hate George Costanza by the end of Seinfeld, while the other characters I merely disliked.
Despised that Neelix guy on Voyager
and I think I am the only one who didn't love Lucy; I hated Lucy (the character - only hated Lucille Ball when she got the part of Mame in the movie. bad casting, bad.)
Misnomer
05-16-2012, 09:20 AM
Sookie Stackhouse on True Blood, and Abby Sciuto on NCIS. For similar reasons, actually: both are way too Pollyanna-ish, while also sometimes being judgmental in a holier-than-thou kind of way.
(Sookie is a hundred times more annoying than Abby.)
Zsofia
05-16-2012, 09:29 AM
People hate Claire Huxtable?
Intergalactic Gladiator
05-16-2012, 09:55 AM
Jenny Schecter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_Schecter) was such an annoying piece of obnoxious crap who was supposed to be the audience's gateway character but was such an annoying piece of obnoxious crap that they killer her off for the last season.
control-z
05-16-2012, 10:31 AM
Scrappy Doo
Dr. Smith on Lost in Space. Why did they put up with that guy? I would have left him on the next planet we came to.
Coy and Vance
WordMan
05-16-2012, 10:47 AM
Am I the first person who is mentioning Dr. Frank Burns from MASH?
There's a difference, to me, between:
- Hated because they are a contrived character, clearly inserted for reasons outside what makes sense for the show's story - e.g., Wesley Crusher
- Hated because they are the central bad guy, e.g., JR Ewing on Dallas, who, to my knowledge (didn't watch the show myself) folks loved to hate
- Hated because they are positioned to be the douchbag counterpoint to our heroes - e.g., Frank Burns on MASH
Carry on.
jerseymule
05-16-2012, 10:48 AM
No "love" for Horatio Caine? How soon will it be before Caruso starts saying he was playing the character as a douchebag?
Agree with Horatio as played by David Caruso. And why is Claire Huxtable even on the list? I can see Rudy being annoying perhaps. Or even the Bill Cosby character.
BubbaDog
05-16-2012, 10:50 AM
Since Jules Cobb - Cougar Town wasn't on the list I had to go with Wesley Crusher.
Corcaigh
05-16-2012, 10:57 AM
No "love" for Horatio Caine? How soon will it be before Caruso starts saying he was playing the character as a douchebag?
I can't watch that show because of him!
I voted for Wesley Crusher, whilst Wil Wheaton is a damn nice fella, Wesley was a pain in the arse, who I would cheerfully have kicked until I got a cramp.
Then I'd have started punching him.
jerseymule
05-16-2012, 10:57 AM
OK, I finally figured out that "Deborah Barron" from Everybody Loves Raymond is supposed to be Debra Barone, the wife of Raymond on the show. I kept thinking that there must be a character that I'd somehow missed, a nemesis of the Barone family. It's amazing to me that just changing the spelling caused me not to recognize the name at all. DUH!
Small Hen
05-16-2012, 11:08 AM
I always thought the seventh doctor was the most hated, or perhaps that was a uk thing. Sylvester Mcoy was generally a bad comedian/clown and his assistant was Bonnie Langford, who played annoying characters in childrens television...
My friends who are fan swore that they were brought in by the BBC to kill off the series...
Sylvester McCoy is my favorite classic doctor - a good combination between darkly manipulative and goofy. Granted, I'm still working my way through the old series, but in the corse of watching them all out of order, I ran across a seventh doctor episode and promptly worked my way through every last one of his before continuing onward. I haven't seen much Tom Baker yet, and though I've liked what I've seen, I'm wondering if he can live up to the hype. Geeks treat him like he's the God of Who, or something.
The Seventh Doctor's assistant was (and still is, on the radio dramas) Sophie Aldred, not Bonnie 'shoulder pads' Langford. Ace was made of pure, concentrated awesome. Mel might be my official pick for this list.
Barkis is Willin'
05-16-2012, 12:34 PM
People hate Claire Huxtable?
I didn't hate Claire, but I can see why she's on this list. She had a certain...I don't know...smugness, I guess. She rarely spoke to anyone in way that was not at least vaguely condescending.
well he's back
05-16-2012, 12:50 PM
It wasn't the wife on 'Everybody Loves Raymond' that I hated. It was his mother. Hate hate hate hate hate hate.
NoClueBoy
05-16-2012, 01:37 PM
Sylvester McCoy is my favorite classic doctor - a good combination between darkly manipulative and goofy. Granted, I'm still working my way through the old series, but in the corse of watching them all out of order, I ran across a seventh doctor episode and promptly worked my way through every last one of his before continuing onward. I haven't seen much Tom Baker yet, and though I've liked what I've seen, I'm wondering if he can live up to the hype. Geeks treat him like he's the God of Who, or something.
The Seventh Doctor's assistant was (and still is, on the radio dramas) Sophie Aldred, not Bonnie 'shoulder pads' Langford. Ace was made of pure, concentrated awesome. Mel might be my official pick for this list.
Tom Baker had the longest run, and had some great writing and co-stars. Plus, if you're between 35 and 55 in the USA, Tom Baker's Doctor was likely your first. And you always have a fondness for your first. Watch the first 4 Baker eps in a row for a good look at his Doctor. And then watch some of the higher rated eps of his run. But you really need to see his first few first.
Sylvesthter's Docthor was well done with regard to character and acting. But by that time, the Who franchise was in trouble. He didn't get a fair shake, imho. Absolutely atrocious plots and dialogue in many eps.
Hey, I even liked #8, wanted to see some more with him.
PSXer
05-16-2012, 01:44 PM
I don't like Claire Huxtable because she wouldn't let Cliff eat potato chips
That Don Guy
05-16-2012, 02:14 PM
Am I the first person who is mentioning Dr. Frank Burns from MASH?
There's a difference, to me, between:
- Hated because they are a contrived character, clearly inserted for reasons outside what makes sense for the show's story - e.g., Wesley Crusher
- Hated because they are the central bad guy, e.g., JR Ewing on Dallas, who, to my knowledge (didn't watch the show myself) folks loved to hate
- Hated because they are positioned to be the douchbag counterpoint to our heroes - e.g., Frank Burns on MASH
Frank Burns in the TV series was tweaked from his movie counterpart so that (a) he wouldn't be nearly as good a doctor as Hawkeye and Trapper (and, later, BJ), and (b) he was "pro-Army," so the producers could send the message, "See? Army = Bad, Peace = Good!"
Dr. Smith on Lost in Space. Why did they put up with that guy? I would have left him on the next planet we came to.
Wasn't that the original intent, but then the bean counters noticed that the show was turning into "Dr. Smith, the Robot, and who cares"?
Coy and Vance
Who hated them other than the fans of Bo and Luke? Speaking of whom, "the version I heard was," they claimed they left the show because of script quality, but when they came back, the scripts weren't any "better", but "coincidentally" now the actors were getting a cut of the merchandise.
My vote, if limited to names on the list: Wesley. (Somewhere in the vast Internetverse is a story of how Paramount "forgot" to tell Wil Wheaton about the premiere for the last movie.)
My vote, if there was an "Other" option: Meg on Family Guy.
Somebody else that people seem to have forgotten: Dan Fielding on Night Court. One of my "TV Theories" is, "You know a villain is doing his job when the actor wins multiple Emmys."
Hal Briston
05-16-2012, 05:47 PM
OK, I finally figured out that "Deborah Barron" from Everybody Loves Raymond is supposed to be Debra Barone, the wife of Raymond on the show. I kept thinking that there must be a character that I'd somehow missed, a nemesis of the Barone family. It's amazing to me that just changing the spelling caused me not to recognize the name at all. DUH!I'm going to go ahead and believe that that's the reason this poll is not unanimous.
Lanzy
05-16-2012, 06:48 PM
I like most of those, the rest I don't know at all....Love Tara
Orca Eyes
05-16-2012, 09:23 PM
Darn, no one I really hate is on the list!
Here are a list of five characters that I really hate.
1. Sugar Motta from Glee. I am autistic, and I find her ridiculously offensive. The whole "screw the rules, I have autism" thing is insulting. And all of my autistic friends agree - one actually persuaded his mum to stop watching it because he was offended. Negative portrayals of autism like that only reinforce the stereotypes. And she's just plain annoying.
2. Sal from Mad Men really annoys me. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate him because he's gay, I hate him because he's a gay stereotype and he's obnoxious! When I used to be on City Data, I posted that I have a friend named Salvatore who hates the Mad Men character even more than I do! Although in his case it's because he doesn't want people associating his name with the Mad Men character. I don't blame him - think of how the names Homer and Elmo have been rendered unusable because of heavy associations with TV (although I admit at least those are less unpleasant associations). And my friend is straight and nothing like Sal Romano or whatever his surname is.
3. Megan from Drake & Josh. Probably one of the most obnoxious characters to ever exist on any TV show. She got away with EVERY nasty prank that she pulled! She made Angelica Pickles from Rugrats and D.W. from Arthur look like sweet, well-behaved children. (And as much as Drake Bell's character was a jerk, I kinda felt sorry for him having to put up with the little sister from hell.) Thank heavens the show got cancelled after everyone grew too old to play their roles.
4. Cilan from Pokemon: Best Wishes. I don't know if any of you watch anime, but I really hate this character. I hate him because he's such a seemingly perfect jerk that can do anything. And the fact that Cilan doesn't take anything seriously. If you've played Pokemon Black and White, Cilan appears, but his personality is much more humble and a bit nicer - after all, the anime is based on the games (however loosely), NOT the other way around.
5. Brian from Family Guy after he became such a left-wing jerk. It's sad, since I used to like him.
Stink Fish Pot
05-16-2012, 10:52 PM
No "love" for Horatio Caine? How soon will it be before Caruso starts saying he was playing the character as a douchebag?
It looks like my original answer was eaten by hamsters, but this answer is the correct one. What a douche bag of a character, and I can't believe Caruso isn't showing a lot of himself in that portrayal.
I'm dropping some of the sympathy requirement, since I can't sympathize with someone I hate.
I originally went with
George Costanza -Seinfeld
Conrad Eckly - CSI, followed closely by Catherine. The biggest HR-focused prick on tv.
On Everybody Loves Raymond, I actually liked Debra. I HATED Marie, (Rays mother), just a bit more than I hated mommas boy Ray. And finally the twins. Child actors are hard to pick on, but these two little bastards sucked.
The Sopranos - Janice Soprano. I loathed this person, so much so that if I ever met her in real life, I'd have to smack her.
Nurse Jackie - Jackie Payton - no sympathy for a lying, drug addict nurse/mother who is extremely selfish and uses everyone.
The Controvert
05-16-2012, 11:33 PM
I like the ones in the poll. The person I'd put in this category is Sherry Palmer on 24. She was so hated that the hate spilled over to the actress Penny Johnson Jerald's new character on Castle.
woodstockbirdybird
05-16-2012, 11:58 PM
Although I was no fan of Scrappy Doo, I'm somewhat baffled by all the hate for him, because it seems to suggest Scooby-Doo was a good show before he came along, rather than the stupefyingly lame piece of shit it actually was.
drewtwo99
05-16-2012, 11:58 PM
Does hating the entire cast of Friends count?
Stink Fish Pot
05-17-2012, 12:41 AM
Although I was no fan of Scrappy Doo, I'm somewhat baffled by all the hate for him, because it seems to suggest Scooby-Doo was a good show before he came along, rather than the stupefyingly lame piece of shit it actually was.
Come on, now... Scooby Doo was a great Saturday morning cartoon show to watch with your bowl of sugar covered cereal. That was the target audience. And that target audience was smart enough to reject Scrappy Doo. 8 year olds hopped up on sugar could tell right away that Scrappy Doo sucked. And he still does.
Does hating the entire cast of Friends count?
Winner winner chicken dinner!
drastic_quench
05-17-2012, 01:43 AM
Lisa Simpson.
Gyrate
05-17-2012, 05:00 AM
5. Brian from Family Guy after he became such a left-wing jerk. It's sad, since I used to like him.Yeah, I agree. I mean, it took Quagmire - everyone's favorite serial rapist - to finally put the smackdown on him (http://fliiby.com/file/791780/lb6zncgj3p.html).
That said, one would be hard-pressed to find a truly likable regular character on the show. The only one who wasn't a total douche left for his own spinoff,
Stink Fish Pot
05-17-2012, 07:58 AM
Yeah, I agree. I mean, it took Quagmire - everyone's favorite serial rapist - to finally put the smackdown on him (http://fliiby.com/file/791780/lb6zncgj3p.html).
That said, one would be hard-pressed to find a truly likable regular character on the show. The only one who wasn't a total douche left for his own spinoff,
Screw that fliiby link. I have to sit through two commercials, one of which is some frightening "if you smoke, you will look like this" PSA for 30+ seconds.
I don't need to see that crap this early.
Gyrate
05-17-2012, 08:01 AM
Sorry - the only YouTube video I could find was audio over a still.
Stink Fish Pot
05-17-2012, 08:20 AM
Sorry - the only YouTube video I could find was audio over a still.
i understand. But that bald lady speaking in a throat buzzer freaked me out.
t-bonham@scc.net
05-18-2012, 02:30 AM
What is quite amusing is that now Wil Wheaton has one of the funniest blogs on the Web.And also a couple of well-selling books to his credit, too.
Maybe if they just had let Wil write his own scenes for Wesley ...
tumbleddown
05-18-2012, 02:46 AM
And also a couple of well-selling books to his credit, too.
Maybe if they just had let Wil write his own scenes for Wesley ...
He's also got far better acting chops than Wesley ever would've left us believing. His turn as a serial killer/rapist on Criminal Minds is still one of the best, creepiest creepies they've had.
What's the term for the opposite of this, a character everyone on the show hates, for no apparent reason, that we're supposed to hate, but have no reason to? Because Meg Griffin from Family Guy is totally in that category.
salinqmind
05-18-2012, 07:39 AM
Does hating the entire cast of Friends count?
I vote for Friends, too! I hated, hate, and will hate in the future every single one of them. (and I tried to watch the show, and I just could not make it through even 10 minutes).
Krokodil
05-18-2012, 10:35 AM
Although I was no fan of Scrappy Doo, I'm somewhat baffled by all the hate for him, because it seems to suggest Scooby-Doo was a good show before he came along, rather than the stupefyingly lame piece of shit it actually was.
Well, part of Hanna-Barbera's formula was to take an idea (in this case, a cartoon based on Dobie Gillis) and add a dog to it. With Scrappy Doo, they took a concept that already had a dog at the center of it--and gave that dog a dog. Plus, when they gained Scrappy, they ditched Fred, Daphne and Thelma. However bad you thought the original show was, this damaged it further.
Mr. Excellent
05-18-2012, 10:45 AM
What's the term for the opposite of this, a character everyone on the show hates, for no apparent reason, that we're supposed to hate, but have no reason to? Because Meg Griffin from Family Guy is totally in that category.
I don't think we're meant to actually hate Meg - everyone on the show hates Meg, but the fact they do so *for no reason* is meant as a joke.
A shame Kennedy isn't on the poll. Worst character in the entire Buffyverse.
Really? I mean, she was bland, I'll grant you - not nearly as interesting (or hot!) as Tara. But she wasn't particularly annoying.
For that matter, I'm not sure Connor belongs on this list. Yes, the character is flawed and irritating - but he's pretty much meant to be that way, and has excellent reasons for being thus.
terentii
05-18-2012, 10:49 AM
Wesley Crusher, hands down! This one really was a no-brainer (though I don't have much liking for some of the other characters I recognize, either).
terentii
05-18-2012, 10:57 AM
Plus, when they gained Scrappy, they ditched Fred, Daphne and Thelma.
Ahem, that's Velma, not Thelma. Possibly the hottest female cartoon character ever drawn.... :p
http://images.cryhavok.org/v/backgrounds/Velma+Kneels.jpg.html
Ginger or Mary Ann? Betty or Veronica? Daphne or Velma? Choices, choices...!
tim-n-va
05-18-2012, 11:31 AM
I voted for Peggy Hill.
I do wonder if the votes for Debra Barone are for the character or for the actress. I know that Patricia Heaton has drawn some criticism for her polictical views.
well he's back
05-18-2012, 11:37 AM
still surprised there's not more hate here for Raymond's mother.
I can totally see the "Friends" hate - they were as self-absorbed as the Seinfeld cast, but not as funny.
Saint Cad
05-18-2012, 12:46 PM
I understand the hate against Wesley and watching the series it got to the point of "Time for Wesley to save everyone." but I couldn't pull the trigger and vote for him. I give props to Wil Weaton for doing his best with a poorly written character. In hindsight reading what he posts on the web it is obvious that Wil realized Wesley is a douche and that is reflected in his acting when he makes his character into a complete douche that wins the science fair every year and gats his ass kicked on a daily basis.
Wesley: My Paladin is now level 36 with a +3 Sword of Enlightenment
Fellow student: WTF are you talking about?
Wesley: I cured AIDS in chem lab today.
Fellow student: Cure this! <kicks Wesley in the groin>
No, my vote went to Deanna Troi, Ship Whore Counselor. As a character she is completely worthless. "I sense he's hiding something." No shit, but what about an observation not obvious to everyone? "I sense nothing Captain." :smack: The only decent episode was when she lost her Trapeziod powers and Cptn Picard said "You went to counselor school for 8 1/2 years. Why not do some of that shit that you learned about." and punched her in the face (Oh wait, that was the greatest scene ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAl5xGi7urQ)in a movie). And Marina Sirtis is just such a bad actress that she made a poorly written character worse. Personal hearsay anecdote FWIW: A friend of mine talked to her at a ST Convention and mentioned he saw some of her earlier movies. She all but admitted that she got those roles based on her great tits.
drewtwo99
05-18-2012, 01:20 PM
I just recently started getting into King of the Hill, and I actually really like Peggy. Hearing that people hate her so much, and that it makes the show almost unwatchable for them, is surprising to me!
GuanoLad
05-18-2012, 06:04 PM
Maybe if they just had let Wil write his own scenes for Wesley ...Then his character would've been Sparks MCGee (http://wilwheaton.typepad.com/wwdnbackup/2012/03/from-the-vault-sparks-mcgee.html).
terentii
05-19-2012, 02:05 AM
I understand the hate against Wesley and watching the series it got to the point of "Time for Wesley to save everyone." but I couldn't pull the trigger and vote for him. I give props to Wil Weaton for doing his best with a poorly written character. In hindsight reading what he posts on the web it is obvious that Wil realized Wesley is a douche and that is reflected in his acting when he makes his character into a complete douche that wins the science fair every year and gats his ass kicked on a daily basis.
Wesley: My Paladin is now level 36 with a +3 Sword of Enlightenment
Fellow student: WTF are you talking about?
Wesley: I cured AIDS in chem lab today.
Fellow student: Cure this! <kicks Wesley in the groin>
No, my vote went to Deanna Troi, Ship Whore Counselor. As a character she is completely worthless. "I sense he's hiding something." No shit, but what about an observation not obvious to everyone? "I sense nothing Captain." :smack: The only decent episode was when she lost her Trapeziod powers and Cptn Picard said "You went to counselor school for 8 1/2 years. Why not do some of that shit that you learned about." and punched her in the face (Oh wait, that was the greatest scene ever (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAl5xGi7urQ)in a movie). And Marina Sirtis is just such a bad actress that she made a poorly written character worse. Personal hearsay anecdote FWIW: A friend of mine talked to her at a ST Convention and mentioned he saw some of her earlier movies. She all but admitted that she got those roles based on her great tits.
I laughed out loud when I read this! Wesley the Douchebag, who gets the crap beat out of him on his way home from the Holodeck every day. Love it!
When I think of how Roddenberry fought off NBC's attempts to put kiddie space cadets on board the Enterprise in the animated version of STAR TREK (which, remember, ran for two years on Saturday mornings), the character of Wesley (and the idea of letting children accompany their parents on deep-space missions in general) just becomes even more baffling.
(In an interview just after TNG debuted, Gene admitted "Wesley is me at 14." I remember thinking, "Wow! You must have been an even bigger dork than I was at that age!")
My favorite Troi--Picard moment was the outtake "Captain! I sense ... hostility!" / "You cow! A chair could sense hostility!"
And Marina was right about her tits. I have a couple of British men's magazines that show them in all their glory, and I assure you they are (or rather, were) yummy! :p
niliberty
10-14-2012, 01:36 AM
Women in Sienfeld, and Ping the delivery boy
Seven from married with children
Susan from Desperate housewives
Sam carter and Rodney from Stargate saga
Sammi Sweetheart from Jersey Shore
Vikki and Ricki from Geordie Shore
I know Marcy Darcy is a great contributor to MWC, but she annoys me
Scrappy Doo
Rodamus Prime (love Hot Rod though)
The female president in 24 Hours
Brooke in B & B
Cruz and Eden in Santa Barbara
MArge Simpson
Amys parents from Futurama
Kamino Neko
10-14-2012, 02:21 AM
WWith Scrappy Doo, they took a concept that already had a dog at the center of it--and gave that dog a dog. Plus, when they gained Scrappy, they ditched Fred, Daphne and Thelma.
Your misspelling of Velma's name has already been corrected, but there's another error here.
The introduction of Scrappy did not coincide with the rest of Mystery Inc getting sidelined. Scrappy-Doo was introduced in 1979 (Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo, mk I), and the rest of the gang stayed until 1980 (Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo, mk II). In 1983, Scrappy was still there, and Daphne returned (All New Scooby and Scrappy-Doo), and both were there again, as well as the introduction of Flim-Flam in 1985 (The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo).
Scrappy and Flim-Flam both disappeared from the franchise (other than Scrappy's...uh...interesting appearance in the live action film) after 13 Ghosts was cancelled, neither of them appearing (at least not regularly) in any of the 3 series to come after that - A Pup Named Scooby-Doo (the whole original cast as kids), What's New Scooby-Doo? (the whole original cast), Shaggy and Scooby Get a Clue (mostly just Shaggy and Scooby, though the rest of Mystery Inc get fairly regular appearances, mostly just one an episode, though), and Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated (the whole original cast - the only series I've seen absolutely none of, so my impression that Daphne and Fred are relatively minor, and Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma pretty much dominate may be incorrect).
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