View Full Version : Anyone know more about a 1960-era rockabilly ban/protest?
F. U. Shakespeare
06-27-2012, 07:01 PM
I was performing recently in Arkansas and met a couple of local musicians who are minor historical figures in rockabilly.
In the course of our jam session and conversations, they told me that one reason rockabilly doesn't have the nostalgia demand of, say, 1950's rock, is that it was only big on the charts from about 1955 to 1960 or so.
A major reason, they claimed, was that there was a protest, or boycott, of rockabilly music by the mayor/governor of New York/New Jersey/some town in NJ around 1960, that killed demand for the music. They weren't sure on the details.
I'm not a rockabilly expert. But I'm fairly well-versed in pop music history, and I had never heard this before.
Can anyone provide more information supporting or refuting this story?
WordMan
06-27-2012, 07:06 PM
I'd be curious, too. There's the whole Rock died set of events in the late 50's: Buddy Holly and the others dying in the plane crash; Eddie Cochran dying and Gene Vincent injured in the UK car crash; Elvis in the army; Little Richard quitting for God for a bit; Chuck Berry busted for violating the Mann Act (and being a general whack job - love ya Chuck!), etc...but I don't recall a "ban" per se...
F. U. Shakespeare
06-27-2012, 07:16 PM
That's what I was thinking: there was certainly a time from about 1960 to the Beatles breakthrough when there wasn't really a single, ruling trend in American pop music.
All the things you mention definitely contributed to the decline of interest in rock and roll/rockabilly, so I think my friends were overstating the impact of the alleged ban/protest.
But the fact that I'd never heard of it piques my curiosity.
Exapno Mapcase
06-27-2012, 07:26 PM
I wouldn't claim to be an expert on rockabilly but I've read tons of rock history and an incident like this doesn't ring a single bell. I'd agree completely with WordMan, that with all the major figures gone there were huge openings for other styles to break through. A quick search found nothing online that even hinted at a boycott or protest as a major event in rockabilly history. I'd certainly like to read about something forgotten, though, if anyone can dig it up.
WordMan
06-27-2012, 07:47 PM
That's what I was thinking: there was certainly a time from about 1960 to the Beatles breakthrough when there wasn't really a single, ruling trend in American pop music. .
Gotta go with Motown and the Beach Boys and Brill Building/ Wall of Sound singles as the "interim" music, but I hear ya...
tomcar
06-27-2012, 09:35 PM
I always thought rockabilly was so simple and basic it faded as rock, girl groups, doo wop and other forms of pop took over. There are like 3 rockabilly songs that have been made over and over.
In some ways rockabilly stayed more in the country music scene, but gets revived in the indie scene every so often (pub rock, psychobilly, etc.)
GreasyJack
06-27-2012, 11:06 PM
Gotta go with Motown and the Beach Boys and Brill Building/ Wall of Sound singles as the "interim" music, but I hear ya...
There was also the weird early 60's folk craze that only seems to be remembered these days for the people who changed their sound and made it big once the 60's got underway in earnest.
drastic_quench
06-27-2012, 11:12 PM
I always thought rockabilly was so simple and basic it faded as rock, girl groups, doo wop and other forms of pop took over. There are like 3 rockabilly songs that have been made over and over.
In some ways rockabilly stayed more in the country music scene, but gets revived in the indie scene every so often (pub rock, psychobilly, etc.)
Reverend Horton Heat's been playing since 85. Not arenas or anything, but a few guys have been carrying the torch.
China Guy
06-27-2012, 11:12 PM
It doesn't ring a bell. Link Wray performed in the DC area, and I think some of his barroom shows got pretty violent. As in working class guys having a rumble. One of Link Wray's big songs was titled "rumble." This story is also told in George Pelecanos book Hard Revolution.
Here's a link to an interesting blog post on Link Wray, the father of violence in rock n roll? http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2006/04/link_wray_armed_to_the_teeth.php
Krokodil
06-27-2012, 11:29 PM
Here (http://user.pa.net/~ejjeff/kqv1963hpy.html) are the top 50 songs for station KQV in 1963. While lots of girl groups and sort-of Rock bands were enjoying their day in the sun, this was the year that the Singing Nun and the Elephant Walk dominated the airwaves, and not a proud moment for the music of youthful rebellion.
GreasyJack
06-27-2012, 11:45 PM
Reverend Horton Heat's been playing since 85. Not arenas or anything, but a few guys have been carrying the torch.
Some of the real old timers are still around too. Jerry Lee Lewis has been performing and recording more or less uninterrupted since the 50's and though he veered more towards country during the 70's and 80's, he's still playing mostly as a rockabilly act today. He just released a fairly well-received album of duets a couple of years ago. Little Richard had a brief gospel-only interlude, but is back performing the original rockabilly-type stuff. Rockabilly also stayed popular in Europe and Japan for some reason, and some of the old acts spent a lot of time there in the 60's and 70's. There's even a some albums old American rock acts did in German during that period that are fun oddities if you can find them.
(Unfortunately Jerry Lee's marriage with his underage cousin ended in the 70's, so I can't make a joke about the outrage subsiding now that she's 67.)
WordMan
06-27-2012, 11:57 PM
There was also the weird early 60's folk craze that only seems to be remembered these days for the people who changed their sound and made it big once the 60's got underway in earnest.
Cute. True.
AuntiePam
06-27-2012, 11:59 PM
Here (http://user.pa.net/~ejjeff/kqv1963hpy.html) are the top 50 songs for station KQV in 1963. While lots of girl groups and sort-of Rock bands were enjoying their day in the sun, this was the year that the Singing Nun and the Elephant Walk dominated the airwaves, and not a proud moment for the music of youthful rebellion.
The first youthful rebellion was over (Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, white kids listening to black! :eek: music) and the second rebellion (The Doors, psychedelics, revolution) hadn't started yet. We were listening to and liking pretty much anything in 1963, and if there was a theme, we didn't know what it was.
Edited to remove erroneous info about Perry Como. I could have sworn Catch A Falling Star was a hit in the early 60's, but it was 1957.
denquixote
06-28-2012, 12:16 AM
It doesn't ring a bell. Link Wray performed in the DC area, and I think some of his barroom shows got pretty violent. As in working class guys having a rumble. One of Link Wray's big songs was titled "rumble." This story is also told in George Pelecanos book Hard Revolution.
Here's a link to an interesting blog post on Link Wray, the father of violence in rock n roll? http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2006/04/link_wray_armed_to_the_teeth.php
I can't really imagine too many people who were personally less connected with Rock-a-billy during the early 60's than Link Wray, but who knows. Someone who did record RAB at that time was Ronnie Haig who had a record called "Don't You Hear Me Calling Baby" which I think you can hear on YouTube. This was recorded around 1959 or so and was very popular in my hometown, not so much for the musical artistry but for the slurring of the "f" word at the end of the song. Yes, that "f" word. Someone told a disc jockey somewhere else that you could clearly hear it at 33 &1/3 and rather than check that out off the air, he played it that way on the air and got fined. I have no idea if this has anything to do with what you are talking about, because I have no recollection of any protest as such. Porky Chedwick in Pittsburgh played that record until he went off the air, without a fine.
Jim's Son
06-28-2012, 03:39 AM
There was a 1950s music/documentary/then current oldies movie in the early 1970s called "Let the Good Times Roll". In it they had a clip from a 1950sLong Island, NY high school showing boys and girls in "acceptable" and "Unacceptable"clothes. The unacceptable attire was the standard "rockabilly" look you see in things like "Grease" and "Fonzie" in "Happy Days' (but then Henry Winkler wearing a leather jacket caused a big stink from the network people at first. they compromised by initially having him always near his motorcycle so they could say it was for safety while riding.
The governor of New York in 1960 was Nelson Rockefeller, the mayor of New York City was Robert Wagner. I would be shocked if either of them cared for rock and roll but I never heard of them having a boycott. They could have, but I haven't heard of it. Some older cynics who remember Wagner better than I do say his standard answer for everything was "we have a committee looking into that".
Around that time there were payola scandals that ended the career of Alan Freed, radio DJ who promoted R&B and rockabilly (and managed to get a songwriting credit on Chuck Berry's "Maybellene", much like Hesh in a Sopranos episode). Dick Clark managed to escape it by giving some statistics that he played fewer records than he paid for and by agreeing not to do it again.There were a lot of people back then who thought the only way kids could ever like rock and roll was to brain wash them and the exposure of payola was a godsend to them. Nobody was happy with Jerry Lee Lewis marrying his 13 year old cousin and Elvis allowed Colonel Parker to neuter his music.
There were a lot of trends back then that came and quickly faded. Rockabilly, the girl groups, the British invasion (majority of them
like Dave Clark 5, Herman's Hermits, Chad and Jeremy), the jazz-rock of Blood, Sweat and Tears and Electric Flag, psychedelic rock, folk music like the Kingston Trio, surf music (which Jimi Hendrix hoped you may never hear again), doo-wop. How long did the big band music really last as preferred entertainment? Pretty much faded away after the Second World War. Or the hair metal bands of the late 1980s.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were some communities in the New York/New Jersey areas that had camera hungry politicians speak out and maybe try to prevent clubs from having music in if they attracted rowdy, noisy crowds that disturbed neighbors. But I also think your friends are misremembering or exaggerating things a half century later.
Nunzio Tavulari
06-28-2012, 09:27 AM
There was a more widespread ban (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/More_popular_than_Jesus) on The Beatles in the South in 1966 and it didn't harm them. I don't see how it would be possible for an official in one Northeast city or state to have shut down rockabilly.
This falls into another of those "who belongs in this genre?" thread, but I don't think that rockabilly was ever a big deal except in the Appalachian states. Could be completely wrong, but I'd have to have some names first. Most folks at that time were straddling the line between rock, country and r&b, I think rockabilly just got absorbed into the stew.
An Gadaí
06-28-2012, 09:43 AM
I recall reading in one of the Buddy Holly biographies that certain municipalities prohibited live rock and roll shows around about '59 or '60. I wish I had the book at hand to quote from.
Jim's Son
06-28-2012, 11:11 AM
I recall reading in one of the Buddy Holly biographies that certain municipalities prohibited live rock and roll shows around about '59 or '60. I wish I had the book at hand to quote from.
Not quite related to this thread but for all you hear about how great the 1969 Woodstock rock festival was, a lot of communities moved quickly to keep them from happening in their backyard. Something like 30 out of 48 planned ones were cancelled in 1970, according the wiki article on the most famous cancelled one, Powder Ridge.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_Ridge_Rock_Festival
And then there was Interior secretary James Watt and his refusing to allow the Grass Roots and Beach Boys play on the National Mall in Washington DC
F. U. Shakespeare
08-03-2012, 11:26 PM
There was also the weird early 60's folk craze that only seems to be remembered these days for the people who changed their sound and made it big once the 60's got underway in earnest.In a late-70s interview for Guitar Player magazine, Martin Mull referred to "the folk music scare, when G, C and D almost caught on".
Esox Lucius
08-04-2012, 08:08 PM
When I saw Greasy Jack's post, I was going to reply that I saw Mull say that on TV, only I remember it as, "The folk music scare, when folk music almost became popular."
denquixote
08-04-2012, 10:53 PM
Some of the real old timers are still around too. Jerry Lee Lewis has been performing and recording more or less uninterrupted since the 50's and though he veered more towards country during the 70's and 80's, he's still playing mostly as a rockabilly act today. He just released a fairly well-received album of duets a couple of years ago. Little Richard had a brief gospel-only interlude, but is back performing the original rockabilly-type stuff. Rockabilly also stayed popular in Europe and Japan for some reason, and some of the old acts spent a lot of time there in the 60's and 70's. There's even a some albums old American rock acts did in German during that period that are fun oddities if you can find them.
(Unfortunately Jerry Lee's marriage with his underage cousin ended in the 70's, so I can't make a joke about the outrage subsiding now that she's 67.)
Wanda Jackson is still performing and making CD's. She is now 75 and made a recording with Jack White in 2009 and has another coming out some time this year. If you have never seen her check her out on yuotube. It wil be a revelation.
Shakester
08-05-2012, 05:36 AM
Instrumental rock - so called "surf music" - was huge from the late 50s to the mid 60s.
So, between the rock'n'roll era and the Beat music boom, we had Motown, Phil Spector/Brill Blg/Girl groups, the folk revival (which actually began in the early 50s) and instrumental rock. Also doo-wop, yet another style that was huge for a few years back then.
There was just so much going on at the time, musically, that rockabilly just got lost in the mix of styles.
Exapno Mapcase
08-05-2012, 09:30 AM
Instrumental rock - so called "surf music" - was huge from the late 50s to the mid 60s.
So, between the rock'n'roll era and the Beat music boom, we had Motown, Phil Spector/Brill Blg/Girl groups, the folk revival (which actually began in the early 50s) and instrumental rock. Also doo-wop, yet another style that was huge for a few years back then.
There was just so much going on at the time, musically, that rockabilly just got lost in the mix of styles.
Surf music was a tiny and obscure corner of the market in the late 50s/early 60s. There were the Ventures, who may or may not have been considered surf by the purists, a few others who broke out and had national hits, a few who had regional hits, and many who weren't rediscovered until after Pulp Fiction.
I agree there were a huge number of instrumentals; it's just that they were in every style, from smooth pop to rockabilly to novelty.
Boyo Jim
08-06-2012, 10:55 PM
I found this site (http://sadmanstongue.com/2012/02/23/history-of-banned-rock-via-greenlight-rockabilly/) with this story: 1957 Jimmy Dee and The Offbeats, most often remembered for their song “Henrietta”, were banned from giving a concert at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey city by commissioner Lawrence Whipple who said “these programs are not for the good of the community and that’s why I ordered them banned.” No suggestion that it led to anything bigger, though.
And while I've never heard of either, Jimmy Dee is in the Rockabilly Hall of Fame (http://www.rockabillyhall.com/JimmyDee.html).
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