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SlackerInc
06-30-2012, 01:26 AM
Until this week, I thought they did, but now I'm not so sure. One decision is just one decision, but what a case! (I may be slightly biased because I have gone without health coverage for years, so I personally benefit greatly from this decision.)

The liberals (or the solidly center-left group, whatever label you want to assign them) have a tight bloc of four that doesn't see much defection in the big cases. The conservatives have a bloc of three that are even tighter and extremely right wing. But that group of three, to get a majority. needs to get both Roberts and Kennedy to support their side, whereas the liberals only need to pick off one of the two. In game theory terms, I as a liberal ("progressive") am not sure if I'd trade places with them (that is, for instance: trade Kagan for two justices who are the SCOTUS equivalents of Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson).

Polerius
06-30-2012, 02:30 AM
Until this week, I thought they did, but now I'm not so sure. One decision is just one decision, but what a case!
It's just one case. According to analysis here (http://andrewoneverything.com/the-us-supreme-court-is-useless), conservatives are in the majority in 5-4 decisions much more than liberal judges:

Percent presence in the majority in 5-4 decisions:
Kennedy Roberts Scalia Thomas Alito Breyer Sotomayor Ginsburg Kagan
75 62 62 62 62 50 50 38 38

SlackerInc
06-30-2012, 05:51 AM
But that analysis is already out of date:

To be more accurate, for the truly divisive cases, it's already known what the four judges on the left and the four judges on the right will decide, and there remains only one source of uncertainty: which way the 'swing vote' justice (currently Anthony Kennedy) will decide.

Only one? For the "truly divisive cases"? I think not.

erislover
06-30-2012, 01:34 PM
I don't think so. The law is not as easily politicized as current affairs are via elected officials.

Really Not All That Bright
06-30-2012, 02:20 PM
Roberts isn't a conservative now?

The conservatives have the edge. Kennedy tends to vote in favor of whichever side is arguing for individual liberty. Sometimes that's the left, and sometimes that's the right. He's only predictable when it comes to gay rights (in favor, but not by much) and criminal procedure (he generally votes in favor of the government).

Overall, he votes more often with the conservatives than with the liberals. He used to be even more conservative; he voted with Rehnquist 92% of the time.

Exapno Mapcase
06-30-2012, 02:56 PM
One decision is one decision. Period.

dvd418
07-10-2012, 06:53 PM
Scalia gets too much heat for being a conservative and frankly just being himself. I dont agree with him most of the time but I dont have a problem with him expressing his views as a judge. An "activist" judge is always a judge you do not agree with.