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thanatic
03-07-2013, 12:23 AM
Abdesselam Jelloul is the man with highest IQ score in the world. He scored 198 in IQ test held in 2012. He holds the record to have highest score in Advance IQ test. The test included 13 different dimensions of intelligence including analytical, linguistics, spiritual, philosophical and 9 others.


Abdesselam Jelloul sounds like he could be a black man.........

yorick73
03-07-2013, 12:44 AM
Sounds middle eastern to me...not to be racist :)

Peremensoe
03-07-2013, 01:25 AM
It's an Arabic name. It could belong to a 'black' guy, say from Eritrea or Somalia.

thanatic
03-07-2013, 01:29 AM
It's an Arabic name. It could belong to a 'black' guy, say from Eritrea or Somalia.

whats more likely, hes from morocco? or something liek that

Peremensoe
03-07-2013, 01:35 AM
There do seem to be a bunch of Jellouls around Morocco.

thanatic
03-07-2013, 02:29 AM
what are the chances of him being black

Zebra
03-07-2013, 03:14 AM
spiritual intelligence?

Steophan
03-07-2013, 04:55 AM
IQ can't be measured anywhere near as high as 198, so someone's fallen for a scam. Which doesn't demonstrate particularly high intelligence, regardless of melanin content.

Wendell Wagner
03-07-2013, 04:56 AM
Where does this claim about someone's I.Q. come from? Here are three websites I've found which make this claim:

http://www.top10facts.com/2012/12/top-10-people-with-highest-iq-recorded/

http://mostextreme.org/smartest_person.php

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-930711

And these are the most coherent of the websites I've found which mention this, and one of them says explicitly that the score isn't reliable. Who is this guy and where does he live? Who gave him the I.Q. test? Why should we think the people who tested him know what they're doing?

A good rule of thumb is that any claim of an I.Q. over 160 is probably nonsense. Ordinary I.Q. tests can't measure any higher than that. There are some odd tests that claim to be able to measure higher I.Q.'s, but their usefulness is disputed.

DrFidelius
03-07-2013, 05:09 AM
Oh, thanatic, it's not that anyone here cares that a man who isn't melanin deprived may be smart, it is that none of us are impressed by outrageously high IQ test scores.

Virgil Tibbs
03-07-2013, 05:40 AM
Bizarre OP. And what is "spiritual intelligence"?

Interrobang
03-07-2013, 05:47 AM
Bizarre OP. And what is "spiritual intelligence"?

I think Dr. Strange has that.

It's probably obvious, but the OP's first paragraph is directly lifted from at least 2 Web sites.

Pitchmeister
03-07-2013, 06:35 AM
I don't mean to give racists any arguments, but here's another problem: just because the smartest (most intelligent, whatever) man in the world is black doesn't mean anything for black people in general. If you were to claim (and you would be very, very wrong) that black people are less intelligent than white people, a single outlier one way or another does not disprove that argument.

Thudlow Boink
03-07-2013, 10:06 AM
I thought the smartest man in the world looked like this (http://www.nouilles.info/sdpix/31.html).

bup
03-07-2013, 10:15 AM
There is one person named Abdesselam Jelloul in the United States (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Abdesselam-Jelloul), and he lives in San Antonio, Texas.

Note, people, this is the White Pages!

Czarcasm
03-07-2013, 10:22 AM
Abdesselam Jelloul is the man with highest IQ score in the world. He scored 198 in IQ test held in 2012. He holds the record to have highest score in Advance IQ test. The test included 13 different dimensions of intelligence including analytical, linguistics, spiritual, philosophical and 9 others.


Abdesselam Jelloul sounds like he could be a black man.........Cite, please.

Ludovic
03-07-2013, 10:26 AM
Actually it sounds more Southeast Asian.

It must be 'nam, cause Jelloul don't shake like that.

Marley23
03-07-2013, 10:30 AM
IQ can't be measured anywhere near as high as 198, so someone's fallen for a scam.
Or someone made up an IQ test that may not mean anything. They're called Advance IQ and my assumption is that they're full of shit.

Smeghead
03-07-2013, 10:34 AM
Well, I for one think that the whole "racism" thing has finally been defeated, once and for all. I look forward to our brave new future, free of prejudice and full of harmony for all mankind.

Except the fucking Dutch.

thanatic
03-07-2013, 10:49 AM
so do you guys call BS on this test...

Czarcasm
03-07-2013, 10:53 AM
so do you guys call BS on this test...What is the name of this test he supposedly took?

Siam Sam
03-07-2013, 10:57 AM
Actually it sounds more Southeast Asian.

It must be 'nam, cause Jelloul don't shake like that.

:confused:

Have I been whooshed? And no way that sounds Vietnamese.

Sampiro
03-07-2013, 10:58 AM
Whatever his melanin or asterisk free IQ score, does this mean Marilyn Vos Savant loses her column?

Please say yes, please say yes, please say yes!!!

DrFidelius
03-07-2013, 11:02 AM
so do you guys call BS on this test...

We do not have enough information on this specific test to have an opinion on its utility, but our first impression is that it is bogus and/or useless.

Siam Sam
03-07-2013, 11:09 AM
Googling the guy's name, all I get are questionable websites. Nothing in, say, Wikipedia.

Czarcasm
03-07-2013, 11:11 AM
I'm beginning to think "Abdesselam Jelloul" is nothing more than a name that I.Q. company made up to promote their tests. There is no Wiki cite for him, no personal information, nothing in Google images-nothing but a bunch of sites parrotting the same "13 dimensions of intelligence" bull.

Marley23
03-07-2013, 11:16 AM
What is the name of this test he supposedly took?
Advance IQ test, I think. And if a test that measures attributes including philosophical, moral, spiritual, and naturalist intelligence sounds like a gigantic bunch of baloney to you... congratulations. I think the OP copy and pasted the "highest IQ score in the world" text from some other side promoting this company or its test and is speculating about the identity of the guy the company says got the highest score.

kayaker
03-07-2013, 11:22 AM
:confused:

Have I been whooshed? And no way that sounds Vietnamese.

Twas a joke.... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Must_Be_Jelly_%28%27Cause_Jam_Don%27t_Shake_Like_That%29):p

Siam Sam
03-07-2013, 11:42 AM
D'oh! :smack:

Obviously, I'm not Abdesselam Jelloul.

phouka
03-07-2013, 11:46 AM
So, if the local Mensa chapter booked one of those hotel conference rooms for their latest meeting, and so many people showed up that the fire marshal said 'no more', but then Abdesselam arrived, what method would they use to select the member to be expelled so they can let the new Smartest Man in the World in?

After all, there's always room for Jelloul.

Little Nemo
03-07-2013, 11:48 AM
D'oh! :smack:

Obviously, I'm not Abdesselam Jelloul.Don't feel bad, Sam, linguistics is only one of the thirteen dimensions of intelligence.

Siam Sam
03-07-2013, 11:51 AM
Dunno about any thirteen dimensions of intelligence, but I do know I'm good at the five-point palm exploding heart technique.

FoieGrasIsEvil
03-07-2013, 12:14 PM
Sounds middle eastern to me...not to be racist :)

Some of your best friends are Middle Eastern?

Slithy Tove
03-07-2013, 12:16 PM
Abdesselam Jelloul is the man with highest IQ score in the world. He scored 198 in IQ test held in 2012. He holds the record to have highest score in Advance IQ test. The test included 13 different dimensions of intelligence including analytical, linguistics, spiritual, philosophical and 9 others.


Abdesselam Jelloul sounds like he could be a black man.........

This is scientifically impossible. You see, a high-functioning intelligence requires a larger blood flow to the brain. And of course, this excludes Negroes, because so much of their blood volume is taken up supplying it to their larger penises. Plus, their ancestors developed skills throwing bananas at each other and not building shelter from the cold, so they excell at sports, not problem-solving.

(we tend towards the Left on this board, so, "to each according to his needs," this post was our contribution for your need for a racist response. Sorry if it seems perfunctory, but that's Socialism for you)

Old Red
03-07-2013, 12:39 PM
Today, 01:23 AM

thanatic, your statement is worthless.

As Wendell Wagner says above, who is this guy and where does he live? Who gave him the I.Q. test? Why should we think the people who tested him know what they're doing?

Evidence thanatic, evidence, evidence, evidence.

Kenm
03-07-2013, 01:01 PM
If Abdesselam Jelloul is the smartest person in the world, who designed the IQ test?

Claverhouse
03-07-2013, 01:12 PM
Congratulations to Abdesselam: all those of his race must be very proud to be so superior.

lieu
03-07-2013, 01:16 PM
Abdesselam Jelloul has never been in my kitchen.

The Other Waldo Pepper
03-07-2013, 01:23 PM
If Abdesselam Jelloul is the smartest person in the world, who designed the IQ test?

Says here it was designed by a guy named "Abdesselam Jelloul."

Vinyl Turnip
03-07-2013, 01:33 PM
I'm beginning to think "Abdesselam Jelloul" is nothing more than a name that I.Q. company made up to promote their tests. There is no Wiki cite for him, no personal information, nothing in Google images-nothing but a bunch of sites parrotting the same "13 dimensions of intelligence" bull.

Yeah, and it just happens to be an anagram for "saleable mud Jellos."

Blaster Master
03-07-2013, 01:36 PM
My first response to this is: Who cares? Even if we assume that the claim is accurate, which as others have pointed out doesn't seem likely, what is it supposed to prove? I'm assuming this is an attack on those who claim that blacks are less intelligent than other races, but pointing out a single extreme example doesn't tell us anything useful about the population as a whole.

Also, assuming the 198 IQ is using the typical 15 points per standard deviation, that's roughly 6.5 standard deviations above the mean. That's going to be ridiculously close to zero and, as a result, almost impossible to measure with any sort of reasonable accuracy.

Smeghead
03-07-2013, 02:37 PM
So, let's sum up:
-We have no idea if the report is true - if this guy exists, if he took this IQ test, or if he scored a 198.
-If it IS true, it's highly doubtful that the IQ test is meaningful, or that a score of 198 is technically possible on that test.
-If he DID score a 198 on this test, we don't actually know that he's black, or Middle Eastern, or whatever. Basically, we're assuming he's one of the foreign-type colors, because he has a funny-sounding name.
-If he truly IS a genius of your favorite oppressed racial group, that doesn't really mean anything, because one individual tells us exactly nothing about what your favorite oppressed racial group as a whole is like.
-Even if this DID mean that your favorite oppressed racial group is way smarter than the rest of us, that wouldn't actually matter to racists, because they've never been interested in facts.

Does that about cover it?

Great thread, thanatic.

enalzi
03-07-2013, 02:44 PM
So, let's sum up:
-We have no idea if the report is true - if this guy exists, if he took this IQ test, or if he scored a 198.
-If it IS true, it's highly doubtful that the IQ test is meaningful, or that a score of 198 is technically possible on that test.
-If he DID score a 198 on this test, we don't actually know that he's black, or Middle Eastern, or whatever. Basically, we're assuming he's one of the foreign-type colors, because he has a funny-sounding name.
-If he truly IS a genius of your favorite oppressed racial group, that doesn't really mean anything, because one individual tells us exactly nothing about what your favorite oppressed racial group as a whole is like.
-Even if this DID mean that your favorite oppressed racial group is way smarter than the rest of us, that wouldn't actually matter to racists, because they've never been interested in facts.

Does that about cover it?

Great thread, thanatic.

Don't forget:
-Jello Puns

thanatic
03-07-2013, 02:52 PM
you guys think this whole thing is BS.... is 198 really unreliable score?

DrFidelius
03-07-2013, 03:31 PM
you guys think this whole thing is BS.... is 198 really unreliable score?

Yes. On any standard intelligence test. It would be like scoring a 2.

Of course, anyone can set up an arbitrary scale for their own tests which goes up to whatever they want, but that is exactly like asking just how much louder it is if you just had special knobs made which go up to 11.

kayaker
03-07-2013, 03:31 PM
Last time I took an IQ test, I broke the fuckin test. So there.

bup
03-07-2013, 03:35 PM
Last time I took an IQ test, I broke the fuckin test. So there.Kayaker doesn't sound like a white name to me. Racism is defeated!

Wait - is 'kayaker' one of them 'Palin' names?

PSXer
03-07-2013, 03:38 PM
He's just one of the good ones. I am going to continue to be racist against his people until the rest of them get good test scores too

thanatic
03-07-2013, 03:50 PM
we dont even know if this guy is black though

Czarcasm
03-07-2013, 03:51 PM
we dont even know if this guy is black though
We don't even know if this guy even exists.

edited to add: Would it be too much trouble for you to capitalize the beginning of the sentence and end it with a period?

Telemark
03-07-2013, 04:05 PM
we dont even know if this guy is black though
But at least we know nothing about the alleged test.

enalzi
03-07-2013, 04:05 PM
we dont even know if this guy is black though

You're right. He could be white! That'll show those racists.

Guinastasia
03-07-2013, 04:30 PM
Maybe he'll have a son named Oran.

kayaker
03-07-2013, 05:33 PM
Kayaker doesn't sound like a white name to me. Racism is defeated!

Wait - is 'kayaker' one of them 'Palin' names?

I'm kinda pink.

Askance
03-07-2013, 06:42 PM
Kayaker doesn't sound like a white name to me. Racism is defeated!

Wait - is 'kayaker' one of them 'Palin' names?
From what I understand 'kayak' is a Palin drone - draw your own conclusions!

Siam Sam
03-07-2013, 09:22 PM
The OP has asked what we think. But what does he think? He hasn't really said if he believes this, just keeps giving us info.

Asympotically fat
03-07-2013, 09:41 PM
I thought: "finally a thread where racists can come and discuss their socially-unacceptable views!", but no just another dig at the much-maligned racists.

Siam Sam
03-07-2013, 09:58 PM
I thought: "finally a thread where racists can come and discuss their socially-unacceptable views!", but no just another dig at the much-maligned racists.

You sounded ... taller ... on the Internet.

Wendell Wagner
03-07-2013, 10:06 PM
I just checked the following chart to see if it's even possible for someone to have an I.Q. of 198:

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/iqtable.aspx

As you can see, there are two different ways of reporting an I.Q. score if you use the standard deviation definition of I.Q. If you use the method of letting 15 points be one standard deviation, then someone with an I.Q. of 198 is someone who is the smartest person in a group of 30,938,221,975. Since there are only around 7 billion in the world at the moment, it's not possible to say that anyone has such an I.Q. by comparing them with everyone in the world. The most you could say, if you examine the chart, is that they have an I.Q. of 195, and then they would have to be the smartest person in the world. It's estimated that there have been about 100 billion people in the entire history of the world. So an I.Q. of 198 means that they are one of the three or four smartest people in the history of the world.

If you use the method of letting 16 points be one standard deviation, then someone with an I.Q. of 198 is the smartest person among 2,196,908,409
people, so they would be among the smartest three or four people presently living. In any case, this is all likely to be utter nonsense. We don't even know if Abdesselam Jelloul ever took any I.Q. test, let alone what he scored on it.

Asympotically fat
03-07-2013, 10:09 PM
We don't even know if Abdesselam Jelloul ever took any I.Q. test, let alone what he scored on it.

He did, I saw him.

Asympotically fat
03-07-2013, 10:12 PM
It only had one question, which was: are you one of the three or four smartest people in the history of the World?

Isamu
03-08-2013, 12:30 AM
It only had one question, which was: are you one of the three or four smartest people in the history of the World?

And he answered "no", but he got it wrong.

The Other Waldo Pepper
03-08-2013, 08:19 AM
As you can see, there are two different ways of reporting an I.Q. score if you use the standard deviation definition of I.Q. If you use the method of letting 15 points be one standard deviation

Anybody else remember the old "mental age divided by chronological age x 100" definition? So a normal kid of ten scores a 100; a gifted ten-year-old who could skip a few grades to pass tests like a regular fifteen-year-old, 150; and little Abdesselam Jelloul, a hypothetical ten-year-old who can handle coursework like an average college student of twenty or so, would be a solid 198...

Smeghead
03-08-2013, 08:21 AM
And for that matter, why are we just ASSUMING that good ol' Abdesselam is a male, you damn sexists??!

Wendell Wagner
03-08-2013, 09:32 AM
Because the OP called him a man.

Smeghead
03-08-2013, 12:29 PM
Because the OP called him a man.

Well, the OP also claimed he exists, and is probably black.

thanatic
03-08-2013, 02:48 PM
who knows if hes black

DrFidelius
03-08-2013, 03:16 PM
who knows if hes black

Then what, and I say this with no conscious racist intentions whatsoever, was the fucking point of your OP?

Telemark
03-08-2013, 03:19 PM
who knows if hes black
We haven't gotten to the point where we have a solid claim that he exists; why worry about his melatonin levels?

Smeghead
03-08-2013, 06:10 PM
Melanin.

SenorBeef
03-08-2013, 06:24 PM
What race is the OP? I'm going to start hating it.

Derleth
03-08-2013, 07:53 PM
We haven't gotten to the point where we have a solid claim that he exists; why worry about his melatonin levels?Are we claiming he has problems sleeping now?

Siam Sam
03-08-2013, 08:07 PM
We haven't gotten to the point where we have a solid claim that he exists; why worry about his melatonin levels?

Maybe he's a dark shadow?

Ethilrist
03-08-2013, 08:18 PM
So, it's like Schroedinger's Racism.

Smeghead
03-08-2013, 10:33 PM
So, it's like Schroedinger's Racism.

Or maybe it isn't.

george_claussen
08-24-2013, 05:27 PM
No doubt he has Arabic Moeslem name
Abdesselam Jelloul should be in Islamic world Abdussalam Jalal
Like someone name Mohammed Jelloul should be Muhammad Jalal

Smeghead
08-24-2013, 06:20 PM
Thanks so much for that.

nearwildheaven
08-24-2013, 06:39 PM
This is scientifically impossible. You see, a high-functioning intelligence requires a larger blood flow to the brain. And of course, this excludes Negroes, because so much of their blood volume is taken up supplying it to their larger penises. Plus, their ancestors developed skills throwing bananas at each other and not building shelter from the cold, so they excell at sports, not problem-solving.

(we tend towards the Left on this board, so, "to each according to his needs," this post was our contribution for your need for a racist response. Sorry if it seems perfunctory, but that's Socialism for you)

What if the smartest person on earth turned out to be female?

:D

Ethilrist
08-24-2013, 06:40 PM
So, he's a black muslim zombie?

I think I've played that game...

Slithy Tove
08-24-2013, 06:49 PM
An impossibility. It is a scientific fact that women think with their ovaries. Ergo, they flush higher thoughts after only one month's development.

Here is a PSA you should find instructive (http://youtu.be/LS37SNYjg8w)

Jackmannii
08-24-2013, 07:18 PM
Actually, "Jelloul" was what the demon said to Sigourney Weaver when she opened her refrigerator door in Ghostbusters.

Ethilrist
08-24-2013, 07:35 PM
Actually, "Jelloul" was what the demon said to Sigourney Weaver when she opened her refrigerator door in Ghostbusters.

That'd explain all the junk food.

JBDivmstr
08-24-2013, 10:42 PM
what are the chances of him being black

Since this zombie has already been brought back, I'll go ahead and add...

What are the chances that the OP will ever learn to use capitalization or punctuation? :rolleyes:

Little Nemo
08-24-2013, 10:48 PM
What are the chances that the OP will ever learn to use capitalization or punctuation?Hard to say without knowing what race he is.

JBDivmstr
08-24-2013, 11:41 PM
Hard to say without knowing what race he is.

<golf clap> :cool:

Uncle Brother Walker
08-25-2013, 02:51 AM
There is one person named Abdesselam Jelloul in the United States (http://www.whitepages.com/name/Abdesselam-Jelloul), and he lives in San Antonio, Texas.

Note, people, this is the White Pages!

DAMN! You've found me!

But you'll never take me alive!

the_diego
08-27-2013, 01:40 AM
Assuming he's not "pure white", and that the test results are acceptable, it doesn't mean anything. A single 'blip' outlier does not make the entire population anything you want it to be.