Naughty Naughty Nutmeg

[tiny ham]

Mysterious Bob was a Rugby Player/Recreational Alcoholic that lived in the apartment below me my junior year of college. I, the (at the time) good girl was severely attracted to him because of his overall badness, and he knew it. He would smirk at me and grab me by the waist and squeeze me and talk dirty around me because he knew it made me blush.

One particularly eventful day, I had the pleasure to be alone with him in his dark, blacklit, smelly apartment and he pulled out a huge book that looked like some prop out of a Satanic ritual*. Within it were all of the secrets of drugs and drug paraphenalia.

"Did you know," he said, grinning ear to ear, "that if you eat two tablespoons of dried, ground nutmeg without water, you will experience the same effects as if you'd done acid?"

I did NOT know that, and before he could expand on that fact or indeed invite me to try it, his roomate came home and I skeedaddled.

So.

Is that true? can I go out and get me some choice nutmeg and go on a magical mystery tour? Or was he just trying to be wacky with me?

He also offered to demonstrate to me what exactly "teabagging" was but my friend demanded that I NOT take part in it...actually taking me away from him with her hand on my neck. I wonder if I should have gone......


jarbaby


*jarbaby understands that Satanic rituals do not necessarily include giant, scary black books, she said this for effect

[pulykamell]

No facts here, just a personal anecdote. A good friend of mine's SO misread a recipe and accidentally put in about three or four tablespoons of dried nutmeg. Anyhow, they ate their dinner, despite the overwhelming nutmeg flavor and my friend ended up with severe, severe nutmeg poisoning, if there is such a thing. He did mention mild hallucinations, but any pleasure derived from such an experience was offset by the intense nausea, fever, shaking and general overall feeling of shittiness. The paramedics, when they showed up, did not believe his story of a nutmeg OD. They figured he was on some kind of drugs. Hey, this is Hungary, so maybe they're not up on their nutmeg literature.

[handy]

Yes, nutmeg has that effect, I don't think its like acid though, nice try.

As for teabagging, I wonder if its the same thing they do called teabagging in gay bars?

[pulykamell]

Re: "Teabagging." Dammit, I saw that in some movie. Someone help me out. IIRC, in the context of the movie it was gay male strip dancers dunking their bare testicles on an audience member's head.

[Tamerlane]

Well, yes, he was sort of right - But it's pretty nasty. Nutmeg contains a compound called myristicin that converts in the body into a psychodelic compound. But you have to eat a WHOLE lot ( two tablespoons sounds about right, probably depends on the age of the spice - I've heard of it taking a whole bottle )and at that level the stuff is toxic enough to produce hangover effects ( that's in addition to just tasting vile in those sort of quantities ). Also it doesn't appear to be quite "the same effect" as LSD. Close, maybe. But the negatives outweigh the positives, unless you're desparate and can't get anything else.

- Tamerlane

[tiny ham]

I can't believe the nutmeg story is true! Couldn't we perfect this natural phenomenon to create a sort of herbal acid?


Originally posted by pulykamell
Re: "Teabagging." Dammit, I saw that in some movie. Someone help me out. IIRC, in the context of the movie it was gay male strip dancers dunking their bare testicles on an audience member's head.


You know, maybe this is really the general question because every time I relay the 'teabagging' story, someone has a different explanation, and here I am 28 years old and I have NO IDEA what it is.

1. balls in the mouth.

2. balls in the hooha WITH the penis.

3. Hi Opal.

4. balls over the eyes

5. balls in the anus <--- HOW HOW HOW...that's got to be a big, flexible anus my friend.

jarbaby

[TomH]

I seem to recall reading in somebody or other's prison diaries (forget who, might not have been anyone famous) that prisoners used nutmeg in lieu of dope/alcohol. It was considered inferior for the reasons that pulykamell gave. IIRC it was during the 1960s.

[Tamerlane]

pulykamell: It was in Pecker by the immortal John Waters :) .

- Tamerlane

[pkbites]

The "nutmeg will get you high" story is not new, in fact it's many decades old, and has talked about here before.

First of all, have you ever tried to eat 2 tablespoons of nutmeg? It is really, really gross. Most people gag.

If you get it down, what's going to happen to you is you'll get the worst case of dehydration you've ever had in your life. Then you'll get sick.......really sick, like a horrible, horrible case of the flu. The cramps and spasms in your stomach and ribs are enough to make you curse God and die. Puking your guts out for the next 48 hours is also a common effect, as is not being able to sleep for 3 days. Or, falling asleep for 3 days.

What usually doesn't happen is, you don't get high. Some people do, but most don't. And the people that do tend to describe the effect as mild at best. The hideous effects of this crap is not worth the wussy little buzz you MIGHT get from it. I tried this stunt many, many years ago, and I've seen others try it. Let me warn you, you are insane if you try it. Stick to other, more established methods of intoxication.

[tiny ham]

Originally posted by TomH
I seem to recall reading in somebody or other's prison diaries (forget who, might not have been anyone famous)...

You'd think those prison diaries would also have our teabagging answer... :D

jarbaby

[Ike Witt]

William Burroughs mentions something about a doctor mixing nutmeg with milk in Naked Lunch. I, being ever curious, took a teaspoon full of nutmeg powder. It is awfully vile and it was hard to get down so much powder, granted I could have added it to something, but I have no recipies that call for it. All I ended up with was a fever like response. My face was flushed and I was feeling warm. I didn't trip in any way. If it does take 2 tablespoons, it will be up to someone else to try that much.

[pulykamell]

Tamerlane -- YES!! It was Pecker Nice one! I sure as hell would never have remembered the title of that flick.

pkbites -- yeah, my friend also mentioned feeling sick for several days afterwards. just based on his experience, which was purely accidental, i would not try this at home.

[pulykamell]

Some Teabagging Info. (http://teabag-game.freehosting.net) Sounds like fun. Can I play?

[scout1222]

For what it's worth, the version of teabagging I'm familiar with is the version described in pulykamell's link.

I have an ex-boyfriend whose buddies would do that to unsuspecting friends who fell asleep/passed out at parties. It was more like sack in the face rather than on the back of the head.

[Nimue]

A somewhat recent article.

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/1728.73204

[handy]

Nutmeg is a nut, & teabagging is dipping your nuts, so is there a connection???

From webmd.com:
"Although Nutmeg is sometimes recommended for indigestion, it is not
considered a truly useful remedy. In Asian medicine, Nutmeg is also used
as a treatment for inflammation, abdominal pain, impotence, diarrhea, liver
disease, and vomiting--but again without clinical validation.

This familiar kitchen spice comes from a 50-foot evergreen tree cultivated in
Indonesia, New Guinea, and the West Indies. The dried nuts ("Nutmegs")
and their oil are both used medicinally. The fleshy skin of the nuts is ground
to produce the household spice called mace. A nutmeg "butter" can be
made by chopping the nuts and steaming them until they form a paste.

An overdose (1 to 3 nuts) is signaled by thirst, nausea, reddening and
swelling of the face, and feelings of urgency. Altered consciousness,
ranging from mild disturbances to intense hallucinations, will follow, and can
last from 2 to 3 days. Seizures and shock are possible. If you suspect an
overdose, seek medical attention immediately."

[Cabbage]

I tried the nutmeg thing several times back when I was in middle and high school. I would always eat one tablespoon (not two, and if you've never done it before and must try it, I'd suggest trying only one tablespoon at first, not two).

The very first time I tried it, I'd never been drunk or high on anything before. It took about five or six hours to kick in, and I had decided at that point nothing was going to happen. Suddenly, my eyelids drooped, and I went into hysterical laughter for quite some time. I'd describe it as a very good pot buzz, but nothing at all like LSD.

The times I did it afterwards were not as intense, more like a mild pot buzz, but the thing is, it would last for two or three days. It would also dehydrate the hell out of you for those two or three days, too.

There's an appendix on different drugs in my copy of Naked Lunch, and that's where I first heard of it. I don't have it handy, but as I remember it, it mentioned eating a tablespoon of nutmeg and washing it down with water, sometimes used by convicts and sailors when they're out of pot. A very important thing to mention--Burroughs said that to his knowledge, no one had ever become addicted to nutmeg, and he imagined death would probably result from overuse before addiction.

Apparently it affects different people very differently. I generally found it pleasant, but would never do it again because of the dangers I've heard about. I've heard stories of people taking larger doses than I did, and having very intense and very nauseating experiences. Here are some various people experiences, if you're interested:

http://leda.lycaeum.org/Trips/index.197.shtml

[moggy]

I had friends in high school who used to use nutmeg because htey wanted a cheap high (they also used to drink robitussin). They would mix a whole container of nutmeg in with some peanut butter then make pb-n-j sandiwches to cover tha nasty taste of the nutmeg. They called it "nuclear peanut butter and jelly". BLEAH!

[Llamer]

Well I did nutmeg and never told a girl about it, and I am now considering the possibilities it could bring me in the near future....

Anyways, yeah, the general consensus here that I seem to grasp is that nutmeg is a pretty lame/stupid thing to do. But that's not really the case. Allow me to say that nutmeg is a COMPLETElY RETARDED THING TO DO, and I advise against it.

I did it once, about 4 years ago, becaues I thought it would trip me out and all that crap, after reading about it on the internet. I ate about 6 grams of it, or half a canister. After a while it started getting me high, then the high turned into a nightmare of nausea, vertigo and dizziness which lasted up to 18 hours, involving immobility and vomit. And I mean DIZZINESS. Dizziness like you've never experienced. Dizziness like I couldn't even move my eyes while they were shut, because I would feel like I would puke, which I did a few times.

I have devised a much easier way to attain the feelings of a nutmeg 'high,' and I'm sure you'll all agree on its simplicity: Go to your nearest hardware store. Buy a gasoline-pellet powered nailgun. Now take it home, load it up, and proceed to shoot as many nails into your head as possible before passing out. This is about how it feels, I presume. Now take this new knowledge and use it to your advantage, and don't forget Sri Lanka and its struggle for democracy.

p.s. It was Malcom X who did that stuff in prision. Said in his autobiography

[tiny ham]

Originally posted by pulykamell
Some Teabagging Info. (http://teabag-game.freehosting.net) Sounds like fun. Can I play?

Frankly, if this is all teabagging is, I don't know why my friend prevented me from going into a darkened room with a drunk rugby player...

oh wait.

I just reread that sentence and I think I know why.

RUGBY QUEEN

RUGBY QUEEN!!!!

jarbaby

[TomH]

LLamer, you're right, it was Malcolm X's autobiography where I read it.

[Qadgop the Mercotan]

Re: nutmeg and hallucinogens. Always consult the master first!

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_114b.html

[LisaRx]

We learned about this in pharmacy school. It depends on what kind of nutmeg, how it's processed, etc.

My SO ate several TBSP-ful when he was in 10th grade, and ended up puking his guts out for several hours. Makes me laugh every time I drink egg-nog.

[Morrison's Lament]

It'll get you high, but you'll wish you weren't because it's usually extremely unpleasant and causes liver damage.

Just get some blotters for god's sake ;)

--- G. Raven

[tiny ham]

Originally posted by Morrison's Lament
Just get some blotters for god's sake ;)


Oh my goodness, no. That's ILLEGAL :)

jarbaby

[Creaky]

Golly, this takes me back.

In college (where else?) somebody allowed as to how nutmeg will do just what was postulated in the OP.

We we were bored, we were fairly broke, we were in the mood to experiment, we were at an all-girls' school. (You tend to get more creative in devising your diversions at single-sex institutions.) Four of us marched down to the local grocery store in search of nutmeg.

I decided that whole nutmegs would be fresher and therefore contain more of whatever hallucinogen the stuff was purported to contain, so that's what we bought. We took it back to the dorm and spent a highly-anticipatory twenty minutes or so trying to grind a whole nutmeg. Whole nutmegs are really hard, but we managed to get enough particles through a combination of scraping and smashing.

We dutifully loaded up my friend's bowl with our scrapings, ignited it, passed it around, and most definitely (sorry Bill) inhaled.

We waited, giggling nervously, certain of imminent psychotropic delights.

In about fifteen minutes we got blinding headaches. One of us (I won't say who) puked.

I spent the remainder of the afternoon in bed, nursing a cup of weak tea, swearing off drugs til at least the end of the week.

We went back to giving each other massages when we were bored and broke. At least nobody puked that way.

There's a story along the same lines about banana peels, but that's for another thread...

[racinchikki]

Naughty Naughty Nutmeg would be a great grrl-band name.

[tiny ham]

Originally posted by racinchikki
Naughty Naughty Nutmeg would be a great grrl-band name.

As a matter of fact I've been singing it as a song lately. To the tune of "I Wanna Be A Flintstone" by some early ninties alternative weird band...

Naughty Naughty Nutmeg....and then I launch right into my Madonna version of Sua Sponte....Sponte Sponte...

jarbaby