DRY
05-29-2001, 11:32 PM
Here's the link:
Live! (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=72119)
Originally posted by Medea's Child
the combination of your public and private attacks with these turn abouts and asking me to "try to be noble for a moment" when you deserved merely to be ignored is galling.
Combination of public and private attacks? Right. I have copies of all the e-mails I sent you, and I'll forward them to whoever thinks I'm "attacking" you.
As to your "try to be noble for a moment" comment, I'll quote EXACTLY what I said (this is from MY OWN e-mail and has been misquoted in the previous thread, so I hope the mods will pardon me):
To try to be noble for a second, I beg you for your own sake to reexamine your friendships. Show tolerance for your friends' foibles and see where they're coming from.
*I* said that *I* was trying to be noble for a moment, and urged you to examine how you look at your other friendships, so your other ones won't go the way ours did. It had nothing to do with YOU being noble. I'm saddened that you saw it as a "demand".
Your behavior toward me has been one step this side of evil until you decided you "missed" me. Your false saccharine words cannot take away the bitterness of your earlier behavior. You are a false friend and no friend of mine.
I cannot tell you how thrilled I was to read *this* thread:
Poop (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=70240)
There's nothing quite like trying to work things out with someone only to see something like that. You knew I would see it, knew I would be hurt by it, and yet you posted it anyway. And this post *predates* any so called "attacks".
Moreover, you just, within the last couple of hours, posted to the livejournal thread. I had NO idea you had a livejournal, and it came as quite a shock, frankly, to see me ripped several times there. Again, this predates pretty much any "attacks" you can possibly accuse me of. You've been ripping me behind my back for OVER A MONTH, and *I'm* the bad guy? Or was all this advance payment for my future villainy? :rolleyes:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/medeaschild
Wow. I NEVER thought you had it in you.
Oh, and you "MULTIPLE support/sympathy/berevement threads" recently have come to my attention. Surprising coming from one who often asked me how I could stand to garner affection to random people I would never be able to get anything back from. Who often whined about how much such threads seemed like begging and takes pride in never having to ask for support himself. Who avoided them for months as they drew him down and took too much out of him to even read.
See straw man. Knock down straw man.
This isn't at all what I said. I said that I hoped that the people who started threads asking for sympathy or support would "give back" when others started like threads. Reciprocate, if you've been shown kindness. (I've shared these same beliefs with many of my friends, TroubleAgain to name but one. She "gets it". I'm sorry you don't.)
Anyway, none of this anything to do with begging, and as far as bestowing (not garnering) affection to "random people" you've characterized it so badly I don't even know where to begin.
Moreover, HOW DARE YOU criticize me and my motives for posting to these threads, when my posting to these threads caught your attention and yet you yourself didn't bother to post to most of these same threads?? I'm posting support for "selfish" reasons and you're NOT posting to these same threads posting for exactly WHAT reason??
Not the pride and snubbery you have turned into an art or the vicious threats and attacks you plan, but the bright pure goodness that comes from just the act of giving of yourself alone. Not what you can get back. Not praise or public status or debt, but the purity of just giving.
Wow, I genuinely had no idea that when I made my post to this thread:
Fear (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=27901)
That what I was actually trying to do (over a year ago) was get laid. Right. :rolleyes:
I realize that it takes two to tangle, and that we both bear responsibility for what happened to our friendship. I wonder if you do. If how you care to remember it was that I was a jerk, evil, manipulative (I seem to recall that you described YOURSELF as manipulative), and that you never said or did anything that might have provoked me, by all means, do so. I wish I could deceive myself so easily.
Congratulations again on trashing me in your livejournal. You really put one over on me. I truly had no idea.
Di faciant laudis summa sit ista tuae!
Live! (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=72119)
Originally posted by Medea's Child
the combination of your public and private attacks with these turn abouts and asking me to "try to be noble for a moment" when you deserved merely to be ignored is galling.
Combination of public and private attacks? Right. I have copies of all the e-mails I sent you, and I'll forward them to whoever thinks I'm "attacking" you.
As to your "try to be noble for a moment" comment, I'll quote EXACTLY what I said (this is from MY OWN e-mail and has been misquoted in the previous thread, so I hope the mods will pardon me):
To try to be noble for a second, I beg you for your own sake to reexamine your friendships. Show tolerance for your friends' foibles and see where they're coming from.
*I* said that *I* was trying to be noble for a moment, and urged you to examine how you look at your other friendships, so your other ones won't go the way ours did. It had nothing to do with YOU being noble. I'm saddened that you saw it as a "demand".
Your behavior toward me has been one step this side of evil until you decided you "missed" me. Your false saccharine words cannot take away the bitterness of your earlier behavior. You are a false friend and no friend of mine.
I cannot tell you how thrilled I was to read *this* thread:
Poop (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=70240)
There's nothing quite like trying to work things out with someone only to see something like that. You knew I would see it, knew I would be hurt by it, and yet you posted it anyway. And this post *predates* any so called "attacks".
Moreover, you just, within the last couple of hours, posted to the livejournal thread. I had NO idea you had a livejournal, and it came as quite a shock, frankly, to see me ripped several times there. Again, this predates pretty much any "attacks" you can possibly accuse me of. You've been ripping me behind my back for OVER A MONTH, and *I'm* the bad guy? Or was all this advance payment for my future villainy? :rolleyes:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/medeaschild
Wow. I NEVER thought you had it in you.
Oh, and you "MULTIPLE support/sympathy/berevement threads" recently have come to my attention. Surprising coming from one who often asked me how I could stand to garner affection to random people I would never be able to get anything back from. Who often whined about how much such threads seemed like begging and takes pride in never having to ask for support himself. Who avoided them for months as they drew him down and took too much out of him to even read.
See straw man. Knock down straw man.
This isn't at all what I said. I said that I hoped that the people who started threads asking for sympathy or support would "give back" when others started like threads. Reciprocate, if you've been shown kindness. (I've shared these same beliefs with many of my friends, TroubleAgain to name but one. She "gets it". I'm sorry you don't.)
Anyway, none of this anything to do with begging, and as far as bestowing (not garnering) affection to "random people" you've characterized it so badly I don't even know where to begin.
Moreover, HOW DARE YOU criticize me and my motives for posting to these threads, when my posting to these threads caught your attention and yet you yourself didn't bother to post to most of these same threads?? I'm posting support for "selfish" reasons and you're NOT posting to these same threads posting for exactly WHAT reason??
Not the pride and snubbery you have turned into an art or the vicious threats and attacks you plan, but the bright pure goodness that comes from just the act of giving of yourself alone. Not what you can get back. Not praise or public status or debt, but the purity of just giving.
Wow, I genuinely had no idea that when I made my post to this thread:
Fear (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=27901)
That what I was actually trying to do (over a year ago) was get laid. Right. :rolleyes:
I realize that it takes two to tangle, and that we both bear responsibility for what happened to our friendship. I wonder if you do. If how you care to remember it was that I was a jerk, evil, manipulative (I seem to recall that you described YOURSELF as manipulative), and that you never said or did anything that might have provoked me, by all means, do so. I wish I could deceive myself so easily.
Congratulations again on trashing me in your livejournal. You really put one over on me. I truly had no idea.
Di faciant laudis summa sit ista tuae!