PDA

View Full Version : 'Turned up missing' and 'went missing'


straykat23
06-06-2001, 12:21 AM
Was I in a coma when this was explained in Sister Anunciata's grammar class? Have heard these two phrases several times within the last few months (NBC news, America's Most Wanted, etc.) and wonder how they came to be acceptable forms of speech. I classify it with "She done gone," but I may be wrong....

gadgetgirl
06-06-2001, 03:21 AM
Ya know, I never heard the term "went missing" till I moved to Australia. Or maybe I just didn't hear it before now. I always get this image a place called "Missing" where all of the lost people go.
But I don't know where it somes from.
Sorry.

don't ask
06-06-2001, 05:32 AM
Yeah well blame the good ol' Aussies for all the ills of man.

But you may be right.

How M'Ginnis Went Missing
by A. B. "Banjo" Paterson

Let us cease our idle chatter,
Let the tears bedew our cheek,
For a man from Tallangatta
Has been missing for a week.
Where the roaring flooded Murray
Covered all the lower land,
There he started in a hurry
With a bottle in his hand.

And his fate is bid for ever,
But the public seem to think
That he slumbered by the river,
'Neath the influence of drink.

And they scarcely seem to wonder
That the river, wide and deep,
Never woke him with its thunder,
Never stirred him in his sleep.

And the crashing logs came sweeping
And their tumult filled the air,
Then M'Ginnis murmured, sleeping,
"'Tis a wake in ould Kildare."

So the river rose and found him
Sleeping softly by the stream.
And the cruel waters drowned him
Ere he wakened from his dream.

And the blossom-tufted wattle,
Blooming brightly on the lea,
Saw M'Ginnis and the bottle
Going drifting out to sea.


The Bulletin, 21 September 1889

The Man from Snowy River and Other Verses
20 October 1895

Johnny L.A.
06-06-2001, 07:47 AM
How about "found missing"? "I looked for my keys, but found them missing."

dantheman
06-06-2001, 07:54 AM
Personally, I would say that they were discovered to be missing. Or even better: "I looked for my keys, but they were missing."

BiblioCat
06-06-2001, 08:08 AM
I always though "turned up missing" was something of an oxymoron. If you turned up, how can you be missing?

The "went missing" is new to me, too. It doesn't sound right at all. She went where? Huh?

I think "is missing" is better.

Mangetout
06-06-2001, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Kinsey
The "went missing" is new to me, too. It doesn't sound right at all. She went where? Huh?

Went missing
Went is the past simple of go
So 'Went missing' makes sense in that something is missing because it has gone somewhere (no longer here).
It will go missing
if went missing

Turned up missing ?
Yeah, what Kinsey said.

But dantheman's solution is least ambiguous.

Mangetout
06-06-2001, 09:39 AM
compare:
Went wrong

doesn't mean there has to be a place called 'wrong'


(is there a place called 'wrong')

Skywatcher
06-06-2001, 02:40 PM
I'm not an Aussie but a Yank, one who tends to say "gone missing."