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08-27-2001, 10:27 AM
A few years ago I was flabbergasted to witness my then girlfriend brushing her tongue as part of her dental routine. Foamed that talented little muscle right up with toothpaste and scrubbed away.
She was astounded that I was so surprised as she thought it perfectly normal and commonplace. In fact she though brushing you teeth without a quick tongue wipe was positively unhygenic.
I took up the practise then so as not to appear wierd and unusual but I have never ever seen anyone else do this.
What about you , is it a good idea , standard practice?
Does it affect the tongue lining?
Yup, I brush my tongue, but not forcefully; just to make sure that the purple popsicle doesn't leave incriminating evidence.
Brush my tongue everyday. It is helpful for fighting bad breath.
Chance the Gardener
08-27-2001, 10:39 AM
I do this, and have done this for most of the time I've been brushing my teeth. It prevents bad breath, sure enough. And as someone who likes to eat raw garlic, this is an essential part of my daily ritual.
08-27-2001, 10:43 AM
Of course. I'd say it's fairly common practice. I recall Kermit the frog telling me to do it when I was about six years old.
08-27-2001, 10:47 AM
I brush my tongue, but I don't scrape.
08-27-2001, 11:11 AM
I brush my tongue. It really helps freshen your breath because it scrubs out all sorts of bacteria that grow in the little crevices of your tongue. I don't use a scraper, just scrub it with my toothbrush.
08-27-2001, 11:13 AM
I brush my tongue, the inside of my cheeks, and my gums... as well as the actual teeth ;)
I don't, however, scrape, and I'm not as diligent with flossing as I should be.
08-27-2001, 12:06 PM
I have brushed my tongue since the 3rd grade when the Crest people came with the pink tablets and taught us how to brush our mouths. I also brush the roof of my mouth, there's plaque germs there too, you know.
08-27-2001, 12:09 PM
I'm a tongue brusher, indeed I am.
08-27-2001, 01:33 PM
I do it too!
If you don't brush your tongue you can get Hairy Tongue (http://www.dermis.net/doia/image.asp?zugr=d&lang=e&cd=2&nr=27&diagnr=529300).
Here's another (http://www.dermis.net/doia/image.asp?zugr=d&lang=e&cd=2&nr=47&diagnr=529300) hairy tongue pic and another (http://www.dermis.net/doia/image.asp?zugr=d&lang=e&cd=33&nr=39&diagnr=529300). Pretty gross. I wouldn't want to be kissed by somebody with a tongue like that!! Yuck.
08-27-2001, 02:55 PM
Embarrassing revelation coming up ...
Hi, my name is Jack, and I'm a sufferer of hairy tongue syndrome.
Not like the pictures that Rachelle link to but close. The first time I noticed it I totally freaked, but I had a cold so I thought that was an offshoot of the ailment. I could brush my tongue clean although it took some doing, and a lot of gagging.
Unfortunately, if I don't brush my tongue it comes back to a degree. It's more of a light coating (that seems to be made worse with the copious amounts of coffee I consume) than "hair", but it's still kind of gross.
What was the question again? Oh yeah.
Yes, I brush my tongue.
08-27-2001, 04:45 PM
Yep, gotta brush the tongue. My fourth-grade teacher told me so (and it was pretty much the most useful thing he taught us, too).
'Cause, see, the germs all jump off your teeth onto the tongue when the toothbrush shows up. So you gotta get them there.
08-27-2001, 05:06 PM
I never did until I was about 18, because I never had any coating on my tongue, but now I do it religiously. Otherwise my tongue will get a whitish cast to it that I don't think looks healthy. Ick!
08-27-2001, 05:12 PM
Tongue brusher checking in!
08-27-2001, 05:26 PM
I not only brush my tongue and the roof of my mouth, but I run the brush around the inside of my cheeks and in front of my teeth. I don't know when I started doing all of this but I can't stand not doing it now.
08-27-2001, 05:34 PM
I'm curious to know, Damhna, if you've noticed any difference since you started brushing your tongue.
If I don't have time to brush my tongue (yes, I realize it takes very little time, but I'm talking about those days when I sleep through the alarm and I'm rushing so much that I'm brushing my teeth with one hand and shaving my legs with the other), I notice a definite decrease in how clean and fresh my mouth seems.
ThisYearsGirl, I think I learned this from Kermit as well. The poor little guy doesn't even have any teeth, he's got to brush something.
08-27-2001, 07:09 PM
You guys learned from Kermit? That is so uncool. Arthur Fonzerelli schooled me. Well, vicariously through Richie Cunningham, anyway. Richie had a big date, and wanted some pointers. The Fonz gives him a checklist: (If my memory is accurate to 23 years, it was something like this..)
F: Comb hair.
F: Brush teeth.
F: Brush tongue.
R: (Shocked) Brush tongue?!
F: Brush tongue.
I didn't start conforming to the checklist until I was in my twenties and became a heavy coffee drinker. Absolute Necessity.
Now here's a question-- Am I the only one here that flosses their tongue? Not part of the daily regimen but an occasional thing. Serious.
08-27-2001, 07:45 PM
I don't brush my tongue.
I heard it was a good idea and tried it, but it made me gag. I'd heard it'll make you gag, but you'd get used to it. So I kept it up for a week. I was still gagging at the end of the week, so I decided it wasn't worth the effort. I have a very aggressive gag reflex, I guess.
08-27-2001, 08:31 PM
I'm a tongue-brusher too - I don't feel like I've brushed my teeth if I don't give my tongue a quick once-over.
08-27-2001, 08:44 PM
I also brush my tongue and the insides of my mouth, and I've taught my 4 year old to do the same. We floss regularly too. I have seen too many horror pictures of what the inside of my mouth could look like if I neglect to clean it properly!
08-27-2001, 09:05 PM
I'm all over the tongue-brushiing. I was taught that the tongue is way nastier than the teeth and what's between them.
In order to curb gagging while brushing the tongue, try breathing thru the nose only. If you breathe thru your mouth while brushing the tongue, certain gagging to follow
08-27-2001, 09:48 PM
Tongue, teeth, inside cheeks, and gums brusher checking in.
08-27-2001, 10:50 PM
I always brush my tongue. When my tongue gets fuzzy (not hairy fuzzy like those pictures, but more "just finished a pineapple popsicle" fuzzy) and my teeth get fuzzy and my breath feels stinky, I make sure to brush everything. But after reading this thread, I'm gonna start on the roof of my mouth too. Makes sense.
08-28-2001, 03:49 AM
I brush my tongue because I don't want my breath to stink.
08-28-2001, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by Podkayne
..I heard it was a good idea and tried it, but it made me gag. I'd heard it'll make you gag, but you'd get used to it. So I kept it up for a week. I was still gagging at the end of the week, so I decided it wasn't worth the effort. I have a very aggressive gag reflex, I guess.
You sure it was tongue brushing he was trying to convince you to do ?
Delphica I did notice a difference immediately. Coffee took a lot longer to taste like itself in the morning. :) Other than that I can saw only that it feelshealthier. My mouth thinks its a nicer place to be. It makes perfect sense I guess but it just wasnt common practise for many people I know and wouldnt have occured to me.
Ill experiment with brushing the inside of my cheeks next whiterabbit and i suspect it will soon become part of my daily routine .... thanks a heap for an added bathroom function to perform. I still haven't forgiven the guy who pointed out that it makes sense to wash your hands before you unsheath the equipment used in uriniating as well as after. If I ever get out of the bloody bathroom I'll hunt you down and point out the benefits of rinsing your eyeballs every ten minutes or something .
08-28-2001, 11:51 AM
Get a tongue-scraper, they are fantastic and cheap and your mouth will be much happier!
I'm a tongue-brusher too! It's a habit I started after, believe it or not, seeing a rather avant-garde play. It was a long time ago, and i don't remember much other than stroboscopic lighting, no dialogue, and naked bodies falling on umbilical cords from above the stage. Also, at one point the male character thought he was about to get off with the female character (who was actually his twin from the umbilical scene) and so he cleaned his teeth and gave a quick scrub to his tongue. I thought "Hey, that's a good idea," (tongue-scrubbing, not sleeping with your twin) and have done it ever since (tongue-scrubbing, not sleeping with your twin).
BTW, the Eternal Nervpartner(TM) is now an adherent of this practice after being introduced to it by me.
08-28-2001, 01:05 PM
Yes, my tongue is cinnamon-fresh indeed.
I almost always brush my tongue, but I wouldn't consider it habit. It makes my mouth feel much fresher. Lovely.
09-06-2001, 10:31 PM
Once I discovered jellyfish, I determined never again to use a washcloth. Jellyfish work up a big dramatic lather; they scrub like they mean it, and they don't aggravate your skin. Plus, you can toss them in the wash and don't have to put them in the dryer. I never knew what to do with washcloths: you can't put them in the hamper wet, but I always forgot to add them when I was loading the washing machine, so I ended up with a morass of soggy washcloths breeding in the tub.
09-07-2001, 09:40 AM
My name is Nym. I am a tongue brusher and I have NO idea what the above post is about.
09-07-2001, 09:50 AM
I am also a tongue brusher!
09-07-2001, 10:30 AM
Tongue-brusher here, too. The practice that I was never aware of was demonstrated by an ex of mine. She used to put pure peroxide in her mouth, swish it around, and spit it out before brushing. I tried it. Ack! Though I still do it on occasion. Just make sure not to swallow it...
09-07-2001, 11:03 AM
My wife does it. I've tried many times but it makes me gag just like Podkayne. BTW, my grandfather threw up every morning after brushing his teeth for 80 years. So when I start to gag on my toothbrush, I figure my teeth/tounge/whatever are better off a little dirty but not swamped with copious amounts of stomach acid.
09-07-2001, 01:58 PM
I am a compulsive brusher of teeth, tongue, insides of cheeks, etc. I can't sleep at night unless I've brushed. It's pathological! But on the positive side, I have never had a cavity.
09-07-2001, 02:17 PM
In The Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga, Swami Vishnu-Devananda tells about one of the elementary principles of yoga that has to be practiced before advancing to the higher levels: cleanliness. The he broke down the various kinds of cleanliness, one of which is danta sauca, toothcleaning. He said the obvious: "Cleaning the teeth is commonly practiced by civilized man." Under this heading also comes tongue brushing or tongue scraping, and gum massaging. It's important to massage the gums to press out the yuck that collects there too.
Also he said when cleaning the mouth to use fingertips to wipe the back of the throat. I know you're saying "Whaa? No way, I would gag and puke for sure." Well, folks, I tried it and now it's become an everyday habit for me and I swear I haven't gagged once. The trick is to do it so rapidly and gently that your throat doesn't even notice it. And you know it really works to get phlegm out of the throat that otherwise sticks there and can be hard to get rid of.
As for self-induced pukes, yes, you guessed it, that is another yoga practice, for cleaning the stomach. I personally haven't tried it yet. People who've done it tell me it's preferably done at the seashore around sunrise first thing in the morning.
09-07-2001, 02:24 PM
Well, I'll admit to being Nyekulturny -- I don't normally brush my tongue.
When I was a kid, siome of my mother's foreign students brought in what looked like flexible popsicle sticks with flowered designs on one side. She challenged us to figure out what they were. We couldn't guess that they were Indian Tongue-Scrapers (you grabbed each end with one hand, bent them, and scraped the tongue). Seemed pretty odd and gross. as far as I knew, none of my friends ever cleaned their tongues in this or any other way.
Flash forward thirty years or so -- tongue scrapers of a very different design are on the US market. I still don't know of anyone who actually uses them.
Today -- seems I hear about cleaning the tongue a lot anymore. Sheesh. I thought I was being good because I flossed.
09-07-2001, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Nymysys
My name is Nym. I am a tongue brusher and I have NO idea what the above post is about.
Yeah, I knew someone would say that! Jellyfish are those plastic scrubby things that came on the market as an alternative to washcloths about ten years ago. At least, ten years ago in America; they may have been around in Europe before that. I was given one as part of a gift package, and loved it. There's also probably another name for it, but I like "jellyfish".
They're a bunch of plastic netting gathered into a ball. Again I say, they're easier to keep clean, create a lot of suds, esp. if you use liquid soap, which I also prefer to bar soap, and they're soft and gentle. I never liked doing my neck with a washcloth; I always got red and irritated.
Unfortunately, a couple weeks ago Mr. Rilch put mine in the wash, and forgot not to put it in the dryer. It didn't ruin the load, as I'd been afraid it would, but it did shrink so as to be unusable. :(
09-07-2001, 03:52 PM
My tongue is very ticklish and the roof of my mouth too, I can't bear brushing them.
09-08-2001, 01:25 AM
Tongue-brusher. I started out only doing it occasionally. In college, however, I dated a non-coffee-drinker (I'd been a bean junkie since age 12) who got me to make it a habit. It was either that or sleeping in seperate rooms.
I do it mainly for my breath, although it may have something to do with why I haven't had a cavity since I was about 10.
09-09-2001, 12:32 AM
I regularly eat breakfast in the car on the way to work.
Which means that to have clean teeth when I arrive at work, I gotta brush 'em.
Which I do with a brush that I keep in the armrest, in a holder.
Then I floss using a floss holder.
Then I use the holder and the floss to scrape my teeth.
Then I rinse with my water, and spit it all onto an oncoming car if I can.
I repeat the entire process just before arriving at work, and again on the way home.
My dentist just thursday told me I had "fine, strong teeth".
I also NEVER use any toothpaste. When I'm at home I sometimes use baking soda.
My dentist when I was a little kid- (Dr Courtice- a great old guy with big hands) told me brushing with toothpaste was like brushing with sugar. Most toothpaste he said had more sugar than a candy bar.This was in the 60's so I don't know if what he said was true then, or if it's true now, or if he was just an ornery old curmudgeon. One way or another I miss him, but he'd be about 110 now and probably not as efficient.....
09-09-2001, 01:03 AM
I brush my tongue even though it makes me gag like John Holmes' prom date.
I also rinse my tongue (and teeth) in the shower. Nifty substitute for those wimpy Water-PiksTM.
09-09-2001, 01:14 AM
You do all this while driving, Billy?
I've brushed my tongue since my navy days (1964). The navy is big on hygiene.
09-09-2001, 05:23 AM
I'm with you, Damhna. Until a few months ago, I'd never even heard of tongue scraping/brushing. I'm a reasonably hygenic person and I'd never, ever, *ever* heard of this practice. Not from my parents, the school nurse, Kermit or even the Fonz. Not even a peep. Ever!
And then I'm reading a text on Roman civilization. They mention tongue scrapers and talk about it being part of the morning ritual of most Romans, the equivalent of our teeth brushing rountine. Wow I thought, what crazy things those ancient Romans were into. Imagine, tongue scraping.
Now I find out I'm the only one in the modern world who doesn't do this. What other lies am I living in my daily life? Help me before I faux pas again!
09-09-2001, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by Rilchiam
...They're a bunch of plastic netting gathered into a ball.
Ahhh. A lather thingee. We always use them at our house too.
09-09-2001, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by dwtno
Wow I thought, what crazy things those ancient Romans were into. Imagine, tongue scraping.
I remember catching a weird programme (Discovery Channel) early one morning talking about inventions. Appearently the Romans also had a device for scraping the body of sweat (ick). The sweat of young men was then used by the ancient matrons (more ick) ...I'm not quite sure of the exact purpose, but I seem to recall it was supposed to induce some kind of frisson.
I think I'll stick to the tongue brushing (my own, at that).
09-10-2001, 06:28 AM
Originally posted by dwtno
What other lies am I living in my daily life? Help me before I faux pas again!
So did you feel rather like Sylvester Stallone in Judge Dread when he couldn't figure out what the 3 shells were for ?
Not that you or I would ever have watched a movie liek that of course.
09-10-2001, 07:33 AM
Rilch- What on earth do "jellyfish" have to do with tongue brushing? Unless you scrub your tongue with one...
09-10-2001, 10:37 AM
I thought this was a thread for personal hygiene revelations in general.
09-10-2001, 08:36 PM
I too am a tongue brusher, every morning. As an RN I take my patient's mouth care very seriously too. You would be amazed at the well educated and well meaning caregivers who never even think to do this. I first thing I do when I have a patient who is to have nothing by mouth is to start on good PO care. I examine the mouth and more times than not the tongue is dry as leather and lips are dry and peeling. How hard is it to swab the mouth and tongue and apply lip balm. Sometime those mouths are so funky I use mouthwash on a washcloth to get them in shape. Like I said, I'm serious when it comes to dental hygiene.
You can imagine my horror a couple of weeks ago when I discovered I had developed an oral fungal infection due to the massive steroids I'd been taking. I knew my mouth seemd a little dry but OH the Horror!! I shall spare you gentle readers a description, let's just say it resembled a small curd dairy product.
10 days of diflucan and nystatin swish and spit cleared it right up. Now my tongue is pink and healthy and ready for business again.
Anyone out there rinse their nostrils? While in the shower you hold a little water in your palm and then suck it up your nose. (I don't recommend sucking it right into the internal cavity.) After a couple of rinses and nose-blows you will have a squeaky clean nose. </Dr. Evil>There really is nothing like a freshly rinsed nostril. It's breathtaking. I suggest you try it.</end Dr. Evil>
09-11-2001, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by nerv
Anyone out there rinse their nostrils?
Works well with ones own urine I understand
naughty wicked zoot
09-13-2001, 11:28 AM
from capt. kangaroo show, when i was a small child:
brush your teeth
round and round
tongue and all.....
tongue brusher for more than 30 years.
09-13-2001, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by nerv
Anyone out there rinse their nostrils? Now that you mention it ... that's another Yoga cleansing practice. Breathing is so vitally important in yoga, no wonder rinsing out the breathing passages is a regular practice. It's called neti and involves flushing out not just the nostrils but the whole sinuses as well. You pour lukewarm salt water in one nostril and it flows right through the sinuses and out the other nostril. Then repeat going the other way. They sell special "Neti Pots" in health food stores for this purpose. Shaped like little Aladdin's lamps with a long thin spout for nostril insertion. Try it, you'll find it helps your breathing a lot, it really does. The Himalayan Institute (http://himalayaninstitute.org/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=sl411.html/), a Yoga school, sells these.
The minimal nasal rinse you described is done several times a day by Muslims as part of their ritual purification before Islamic prayer. It's sort of like the Yoga neti except that it doesn't go as deep.
09-13-2001, 05:02 PM
- - - I have done it. Maybe a dozen times in the last 25 or so concious years. No tongue hair so far. When I had bad breath, there was usually food stuck in my tonsils. Which can be purged, but it hurts and bleeds a bit, which I would guess isn't real good for you overall either.
- Smoking dope is said to cause hairy-tongue also. Or does it? Is toothpaste chemically similar to marijuana? Or do stoners just not brush daily? Do all the people of the world that don't brush or scrape daily have hairy tongues? -Is there anything else said to cause hairy tongue?
- The observation that ancient civilizations did something that they believed to be useful doesn't prove it to be so. Does Rhino horn give old men hard-ons? Probably yes, if they're big-game hunters on safari. - MC
Brush my tongue every day; my mouth doesn't feel clean without it.
Also, I had a roommate who did all of his dental hygiene in his car. The first time he did this in front of me, he cautioned me not to look as he _swallowed_ the toothpaste & spit, thus fluoridating his GI tract.
BTW: I've always wondered: Floss first or last? I floss first in the theory that the flossing dislodges various bits of matter, and that subsequent brushing ensures that the crevices are flooded with toothpaste to kill some germs or send scrubbing bubbles in or whatever the heck toothpaste does. My dentist's answer is that he's just happy that I floss at all.
Damhna: That was Demolition Man.
Does anyone know how I can turn on html in my posts?
09-14-2001, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Rilchiam
Jellyfish are those plastic scrubby things that came on the market as an alternative to washcloths about ten years ago.
Yeah, ok but Rilch....
Whats this thread about? ;)
09-14-2001, 06:36 PM
OPPPSSS!!!! I didn't know there was a page 2!! My appologies rilch! Ignore the above..
...oh, btw. tounge brusher... but only the front part or I will vomit
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