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MyFootsZZZ
10-13-2001, 09:07 AM
Are any news reporters that ever got in the way of a conflict (or war) while the camera's were rolling?
Patti Ann Browne on Fox news is purty... (I think that's her name)
MyFootsZZZ
10-13-2001, 09:08 AM
Oh... and die-
-on camera!
She's still pretty
Muffin
10-13-2001, 09:24 AM
That's quite a juxtaposition. Care to explain it, or would that take us into TMI territory?
El_Kabong
10-13-2001, 09:28 AM
I have a feeling this thread may not be long for this world, but I gotta say I'm a bit curious why you are asking. Er, well, maybe not.
I can think of two items off the top of my head; a cameraman who accompanied the ill-fated congressional mission to Guyana to investigate the Jim Jones cult, and who was rolling when the group was attacked by Jones' followers, and a well-known sequence showing a video cameraman hit in the shoulder by a sniper's bullet during the fighting in the former Yugoslavia. As for reporters hit while doing a stand-up, can't think of any.
coosa
10-13-2001, 09:50 AM
Can't answer the question, but thought I'd speak up in MyFoots defense - I think he just meant that he would hate to see anything bad happen to her. At least, I hope that's what he meant! I've seen his posts in some other threads and he really didn't seem to be a ghoul.
Ringo
10-13-2001, 09:54 AM
There's a WWII photo I've run across several times taken at the moment that a bomb hitting the deck of an American carrier in the Pacific explodes; IIRC the photog was killed.
Duck Duck Goose
10-13-2001, 09:57 AM
Journalists do get killed from being too close to combat, but so far, not on camera.
http://thedagger.com/archive/elsal/
March 16, 1984-John Hoagland dies at the age of 36 on a day reported as "light combat." He was 50 yards ahead of other journalists.
But nobody happened to be filming, so it's not on camera.
ignatzmouse
10-13-2001, 10:12 AM
There's a WWII photo I've run across several times taken at the moment that a bomb hitting the deck of an American carrier in the Pacific explodes; IIRC the photog was killed.
I recall an exhibition called "Requiem" that displayed pictures taken by photographers killed in Viet-Nam. Some of the pictures were fron the photographer's final rolls.
China Guy
10-13-2001, 10:38 AM
From this site http://www.thai4u.com.au/pages/modern_history_neil_davis.html
Neil Davis (1934-85) Davis was a photojournalist. He was born in Nala, east of Oatlands in the Tasmanian midlands. From 1964 to 1975 he covered the Vietnam War - one of his most illustrious achievements was to film North Vietnamese tanks crashing through the walls of the presidential palace in Saigon. In 1975 he joined the American NBC and continued his work in south-east Asia, becoming the most respected war photojournalist of his time. In September 1985, while filming an attempted military coup in Bangkok, Thailand, he and William Latch (USA) were shot. Davis continued filming until he lost consciousness - he and Latch both died.
I saw the clip once one a program aired in Hong Kong.
manhattan
10-13-2001, 11:21 AM
No picture of him, but here (http://www.msnbc.com/news/639271.asp) is a story about a photographer who died at the site of the WTC terrorism. His last photo, of the half-collapsed Marriott, is pretty amazing.
Poor guy.
ignatzmouse
10-13-2001, 11:33 AM
I can't remember if he was a photojournalist or an amateur, but there was that guy who took pictures of Mt. St. Helens exploding. IIRC, he tried to get away, realized that he couldn't, set up his camera and waited to die.
MyFootsZZZ
10-13-2001, 11:56 AM
actually, I was just asking it a reporter died in crossfire,
and that Patti Ann Brown think was just a general statement.
=)
voguevixen
10-13-2001, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by MyFootsZZZ
Are any news reporters that ever got in the way of a conflict (or war) while the camera's were rolling?
On Thursday on (I think) MSNBC they cut to a reporter who was laying down flat on a rooftop because although the area he was in was supposed to be safe, there was suddenly extreme gunplay between the Northern Alliance and members of the Taliban. It was extremely nerve-wracking to watch. The poor guy was nearly hyperventilating. It was apparently a pre-recorded piece because the anchor reported that the guy was able to get away in one piece and was ok.
MyFootsZZZ
10-13-2001, 02:10 PM
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On Thursday on (I think) MSNBC they cut to a reporter who was laying down flat on a rooftop because although the area he was in was supposed to be safe, there was suddenly extreme gunplay between the Northern Alliance and members of the Taliban. It was extremely nerve-wracking to watch. The poor guy was nearly hyperventilating. It was apparently a pre-recorded piece because the anchor reported that the guy was able to get away in one piece and was ok. [/B][/QUOTE]
Why would they show that...?
friedo
10-13-2001, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by MyFootsZZZ
On Thursday on (I think) MSNBC they cut to a reporter who was laying down flat on a rooftop because although the area he was in was supposed to be safe, there was suddenly extreme gunplay between the Northern Alliance and members of the Taliban. It was extremely nerve-wracking to watch. The poor guy was nearly hyperventilating. It was apparently a pre-recorded piece because the anchor reported that the guy was able to get away in one piece and was ok. [/B][/QUOTE]
Why would they show that...? [/B][/QUOTE]
Because it's news?
Was he actually delivering a report? And if so, was the camera also ground level? Was the reporter horizontal on the screen, or was the camera also sideways, resulting in an upright screen image of the reporter?
Just curious about the staging/directing aspect of this.
vl_mungo
10-13-2001, 04:06 PM
Ernie Pyle was a well known, and well respected, Stars and Stripes reporter who covered American involvment in the ETO from (I think) Operation Torch up to the end of the European conflict, and then went to the Pacific where he was killed by Japanese machine-gun fire on the Pacific island of Ie Shima on April 18, 1945, while serving as a war correspondent with the 77th Infantry Division.... not on film though.
You can read more about him here...
http://www.indianahistory.org/heritage/pyle.html
vl_mungo
10-13-2001, 04:12 PM
Ernie Pyle was a well known, and well respected, Stars and Stripes reporter who covered American involvment in the ETO from (I think) Operation Torch up to the end of the European conflict, and then went to the Pacific where he was killed by Japanese machine-gun fire on the Pacific island of Ie Shima on April 18, 1945, while serving as a war correspondent with the 77th Infantry Division.... not on film though.
You can read more about him here...
http://www.indianahistory.org/heritage/pyle.html
coosa
10-13-2001, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by MyFootsZZZ
On Thursday on (I think) MSNBC they cut to a reporter who was laying down flat on a rooftop because although the area he was in was supposed to be safe, there was suddenly extreme gunplay between the Northern Alliance and members of the Taliban. It was extremely nerve-wracking to watch. The poor guy was nearly hyperventilating. It was apparently a pre-recorded piece because the anchor reported that the guy was able to get away in one piece and was ok. [/B][/QUOTE]
Why would they show that...? [/B][/QUOTE]
Lots of reasons, but one good one I can think of is to remind the viewers that people DIE in wars, and not just the 'bad guys," either.
hidon
10-13-2001, 04:15 PM
Why does this whole thread remind me of the Twilihgt Zone movie incident with the helicopter?
Ottoerotic
10-13-2001, 08:36 PM
I'm not sure if this thread is about getting hit by crossfire in general or just in wars. That being said...
I remember watching one of those Most Outrageous Things Caught On Tape type shows, and a bunch of photagraphers were outside of a bank hold up (or something like that) when one of the criminals stuck his head out the window and fired into the crowd. Odd thing was it hit the camera straight on. They showed it from the angle of the camera that got nailed and from a camera that was filming right next to it. (the camera man was un-hurt by the way)
Rysdad
10-13-2001, 11:12 PM
There was a cameraman in the infield of a racetrack filming the action when there was a wreck in the corner. The engine block of one of the cars careened down the track right toward him. Unfortunately, he leaned to the side of his camera to get a better look. The engine block hit him right in the chest and killed him.
Other cameras showed the incident several times.
Originally posted by dqa
Was he actually delivering a report? And if so, was the camera also ground level? Was the reporter horizontal on the screen, or was the camera also sideways, resulting in an upright screen image of the reporter?
Just curious about the staging/directing aspect of this.
The reporters near the Afghan border are mostly using videophones, which the reporter just sets up and then delivers his/her report.
So, if the guy fell to the ground, that could explain the odd angle.
voguevixen
10-14-2001, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by dqa
Was he actually delivering a report? And if so, was the camera also ground level? Was the reporter horizontal on the screen, or was the camera also sideways, resulting in an upright screen image of the reporter?
Just curious about the staging/directing aspect of this.
He was laying horizontal on the ground (roof) and it was night there (day here) so he was lit with that green light they're using for nighttime reports. I don't know if there was a camera setting on the ground and the cameraman was there or somewhere else or if he was using a videophone like BobT said. I don't think it was a videophone though, because it wasn't all jerky like the ones I've seen that were specificly mentioned as being videophone transmissions. I remember the anchor saying to him something like "Gee, we don't want to put you in any danger if you want to sign off" and he said "I am NOT MOVING! I think we're safe as long as we don't move."
This was aired mid-morning here on the West coast which is probably why most people didn't see it, having gainful employment and all. My house and home business is slowly going to hell while I flip between news channels 16 hours a day.
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