BOOOO!!!! DIE YOU kitten stomping cocksucker, DIE!!!!

[Vinnie Virginslayer]

I am praying that there's more to this story than this, but here it is, get ready to be totally depressed:

From

http://www.mcall.com/html/news/quaktwn/b_pg003_e42stomp.htm

Pet store worker charged with stomping kitten

10/19/01
GILBERTSVILLE
A pet store employee has been arrested and charged after he stomped a kitten to death in front of a group of customers, including the 12-year-old boy who was to receive the pet as a birthday present, police and witnesses said.

Timothy M. Paules Jr., 23, of Boyertown, was arrested Monday and charged with the misdemeanor of cruelty to animals, police said.

Paules was employed by Zimmer's Pets in Gilbertsville. The incident allegedly occurred Oct. 6.

Paules apparently became angry when the kitten climbed up his arm, scratching him, said Katherine Chon, who said she was buying the kitten for her younger brother.

Paules became enraged, threw the kitten on the floor and began stomping on it, Chon, other witnesses and police said.

Paules threw the kitten in a trash can, but retrieved it when security officers arrived and handed it to them in a plastic bag, Chon said.

Kevin Zimmer, who owns Zimmer's Pets, could not be reached for comment.

-- Associated Press

I mean, talk about a dude who will NEVER, EVER get laid again!! Yeah, being a kitten killer REALLY gets those panties moist, fella!

And to make it worse, he did it front of a kid . . who was about to get the poor little furry bastard as a present . . .AND THIS WAS HIS BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!

Suddeenly, Osama bin Laden is Jane Goodall.

[Typo Negative]

Man....that is messed up......

[matt_mcl]

Yeek. I'm reasonably certain that kitten-stompers have their own circle of hell along with puppy-kickers, nun-abusers, and players of toad baseball.

What goes through someone's mind to make them temporarily forget that not only are they committing a vile action, but a vile action that's comically memorable as well?

[pennylane]

Let's hope Guinastasia doesn't see this...

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Oh... My.... Fucking... God.

"BOOOO!!!! DIE YOU kitten stomping cocksucker, DIE!!!!"

I have nothing to add to that statement.

[gobear]

I'm speechless. This waste of skin killed a kitten in front of a child????!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[El_Kabong]

Hmmm...another one slips through the pre-employment screening process.

"So, Mr. Paulus, if we hire you to work in this pet shop, would you have any objection to handling cats?"

Anecdotal only, but Gilbertsville is just a couple miles up the road from my location, and people do seem to have a tendency to fly off the handle pretty easily around here.

[tevya]

Jumpin' Jehosafuck! He stomped a kitten! This man needs some serious anger management classes followed by a full frontal lobotomy.

[Revtim]

Someone needs to stompt that fucker into oblivion. And yes, I do value the kitten's life much more than I value the life of that shitbag. "Innocent kitten" > "Asshole waste of protein human"

[pldennison]

According to this site (http://www.animal-law.org/statutes/penn.htm), this person can be charged with a second degree misdemeanor:

2.1 (i) A person commits a misdemeanor of the second degree if he willfully and maliciously:

(A) Kills, maims, mutilates, tortures or disfigures any dog or cat, whether belonging to himself or otherwise.

(B) Administers poison to or exposes any poisonous substance with the intent to administer such poison to any dog or cat, whether belonging to himself or otherwise.

(ii) Any person convicted of violating the provisions of this paragraph shall be sentenced to pay a fine of not less than $1,000 or to imprisonment for not more than two years, or both. A subsequent conviction under this paragraph shall be a felony of the third degree. This paragraph shall apply to dogs and cats only.

(iii) The killing of a dog or cat by the owner of that animal is not malicious if it is accomplished in accordance with the act of December 22, 1983 (P.L. 303, No. 83), [FN1] referred to as the Animal Destruction Method Authorization Law.

I'm not sure what local and country government in Pa. is like, or who has jurisdiction in cases like these, but here (http://www.montcopa.org/da/) is a link to the Montgomery County DA's office, assuming they are responsible for prosecuting. If so, please write them and urge that this person be charged and prosecuted to the extent of the law.

[Cheesesteak]

No matter how many evil acts I hear about, people always seem to come up with new and interesting ways of earning my disgust.

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Hell, this sort of sick shit shouldn't even be a misdemeanor. That's a freaking sick felony case.

[k.os]

I simply trying to imagine how it must have been for the child that was getting that kitten for his birthday. This is beyond sick. Poor Kid! Poor Kitten! Fuck is this world a crazy place.

[Guinastasia]

Originally posted by pennylane
Let's hope Guinastasia doesn't see this...

Too late. :(

Gosh, what did kittens ever do to anyone. I think the world would be a lot more improved if there were more kittens. Like maybe if Osama Bin Laden had a kitten..he'd be better off...
:(

[saepiroth]

you know, i agree with guin.

if we only gave all the terrorists kittens, the world would be a better place.

we should probably go back to cat-worship, like in ancient egypt. then we can make what that guy did punishable by death and make felinatrican a legitimate medical practice, with entire dedicated colleges to it. and we can have research programs for cures to the disease guin's kitty had.





-David, the "I Like Kitties" guy.

[Demise]

I just don't understand this shit. Why the hell do these people do this kind of thing? Total lack of self control? Does it give them some sense of power to make up for what they lack in their own lives?

To stomp a kitten to death in front of a child...sad, very sad. I can't even find the energy to be angry, just sad.

[Vinnie Virginslayer]

Originally posted by Guinastasia
[QUOTELike maybe if Osama Bin Laden had a kitten..he'd be better off...
:(

He does have a kitten. Too bad he's wearing it as a pair of gloves.

[Helen's Eidolon]

Originally posted by Vinnie Virginslayer
He does have a kitten. Too bad he's wearing it as a pair of gloves.

Did you just say that?


And that incident is utterly incomprehensible.

[Venoma]

I think what Vinnie meant, is that the psycho would probably do something like EAT the kitten. (I will point out that cats are still considered food in some countries. :( )

Someone is killing people's cats in Moncton (where I work). about 30 have gone missing. I would like to find the person doing this and rearrange their attitude with a blunt metal object.
[end hijack]

[Seraphim]

Originally posted by Venoma
I think what Vinnie meant, is that the psycho would probably do something like EAT the kitten. (I will point out that cats are still considered food in some countries. :( )



While I agree with the OP, I don't quite follow your attitude--what's so wrong with eating a cat? Are their lives any more sacrosanct then all the other animals that end up on one's dinner table?

[abuse angel]

ok, the cat scratched him, and he stomped it to death, in front of a child.

reading this made me think of back right after the andrea yates thing, when all kinds of people were coming out saying how they didn't condone what she did, but they understood.

don't worry, i'm not about to piss everyone off here...

i have an evil cat. we got him about seven months ago, when he was very small. he was "rambunctious." he played very rough. we figured he'd grow out of it. admittedly, he's still a kitten, but he still plays way too rough. he bites and scratches for no reason at all, attacks my face while i'm sleeping, attacks the kids.

and i would never even consider stomping him to death. especially not in front of the kids.

we are going to have to find him a new home, with a new baby on the way we can't have a pet that plays so roughly. but i've been putting it off because the idea of giving him away breaks my heart. despite his nature, i love him. the kids love him.

anyone who could stomp an animal to death like that is sick. there is no reason, rhyme or excuse. i just wish it was more of a crime than just a misdemeanor.

[Venoma]

Originally posted by Seraphim
Originally posted by Venoma
I think what Vinnie meant, is that the psycho would probably do something like EAT the kitten. (I will point out that cats are still considered food in some countries. :( )



While I agree with the OP, I don't quite follow your attitude--what's so wrong with eating a cat? Are their lives any more sacrosanct then all the other animals that end up on one's dinner table?

There's nothing WRONG, per se, with eating a cat. I do not judge those who eat cats. I would not eat a cat. I love cats. I keep them as pets and find them very affectionate. My father, growing up on farms, did find calves to be very affectionate. They raised their own calves as children and then had to slaughter them (to help them realize how difficult it would be if they maintained attachments to the animals they were raising).

I don't know where you got 'there is something wrong with eating cats' out of my post. Should have been 'eating cats makes Baby Vennie cry.'

[Venoma]

woops, I see what's happening.
Ok. Osama's status as psycho in my mind does not equate with 'kitten-eater'. So, Osama, though he might eat a cat, I consider a psycho, but I do not consider all cat-eaters psycho. I just can't see him cuddling it.

And 'I think what Vinnie meant' was in response to his 'wearing it as gloves' comment.

[GIGObuster]

I like cats and dogs and I remain unemployed and this bastard manages to get a job in a pet shop!

That guy is sick.

Guinastasia: I wanted to say this in the other tread but is locked so: I am truly sorry about your kitten.

[lieu]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venoma
My father, growing up on farms, did find calves to be very affectionate.

Woah.

[QUOTE]They raised their own calves as children and then had to slaughter them (to help them realize how difficult it would be if they maintained attachments to the animals they were raising.[/B]

My cousins did the same thing with their kids. Named the calf "Hamburger" so that the kids would understand what was going to happen.


El Kabong, I'll personally donate the bail money if you want to stop by and pop the sadist.

[Tars Tarkas]

Never meet a guy i'd like to see get thrown in jail, raped, get AIDS, and die slowly more than this guy.

[Venoma]

Originally posted by lieu
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Venoma
My father, growing up on farms, did find calves to be very affectionate. [QUOTE]
Woah.

I said 'my father' not 'Scylla' you sicko. :D

[Vinnie Virginslayer]

Actually, that Osama bin-Laden comment WAS . . . . a joke????

I'm going to upset Guinis even more. My late father was a farmer in Wisconsin and told me that every spring the feral cats would produce so many kittens every summer that if they didn't do something, the entire farm, full of chickens, etc, would be overrun with cats.
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So they would drown the kittens in a bucket of water every spring.

[Bluesman]

I can't get my head around this story. When people do this kind of thing, don't they do it while having a psychotic episode, while chemically impaired, or when they are ALONE, out of sight of a society that judges their worth as absolute ZERO?

I am trying to put myself in the scene when it happened, as a customer browsing, or picking up fish food for my daughter. What do I DO when I see this happen, IRL? I think I would have had the same reaction to THIS animal that he had to the kitten: I would've probably attempted to stomp him to death. And the only regret I believe I would have felt is that I was too late to save an animal that DID have a right to live.

The power to reason, a sense of morality, and an opposable thumb...with all those advantages over a cat, why couldn't he have made something out of his life that contributed something MORE valuable than a cat?

[El_Kabong]

El Kabong, I'll personally donate the bail money if you want to stop by and pop the sadist.

Well, tempting as it is, I think I'll keep my record clean.

One can only hope the courts lay the smackdown on him, but good...

[Guinastasia]

It's okay. My grandmother had to do that a few times when they had cats having constant kittens-she only did it a few times, and always when the kittens were only a few minutes old. My mother said she always cried when she did it, but she knew she had to.

[k.os]

I agree. The savagery of such an act, and the fact that he did it in front of a 12 yr old kid who was getting that very kitten for his birthday, it all points in one direction: That person should not be allowed to live in a society. What would happen if some idiot on the street ran into him and spilled hot coffee all over him. Would he go bezerk on that guy and try to stomp him too? This guy (Timothy Paules)needs to be taken out of the population and either cured or put away for good if they can't fix him.

[k.os]

Just to clarify, I was replying to Bluesman's thought.

[Ike Witt]

Originally posted by Venoma
I don't know where you got 'there is something wrong with eating cats' out of my post. Should have been 'eating cats makes Baby Vennie cry.'

I thought that women liked pussy eaters.


Okay, I'll go away now.

[Guinastasia]

Well, from what I hear, Bin Laden is actually supposed to be a pretty shy, mild mannered guy-in that he's pretty calm and such.

Of course, he's also an ass. But maybe if he had a kitten as a child-he'd be better off.

Seriously, if I'm angry, and I hug one of my cats, I feel better.

Thanks, guys.

(Well, unless BUFFY is the one making me mad-she keeps trying to climb inside my backpack-I should take her to class with me!)

[Demise]

Originally posted by Tars Tarkas
Never meet a guy i'd like to see get thrown in jail, raped, get AIDS, and die slowly more than this guy.

How about these guys (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=89052)?

[labradorian]

Cocksuckers do not deserve to have their good names associated with this vile filth.

Hell, vile filth does not deserve to have its good name associated with this vile filth.

I am gonna go kiss my cats now.

[Unbeliever]

Originally posted by Venoma
(I will point out that cats are still considered food in some countries. :( )

[end hijack]



Just thought of pointing out that though I agree that this is unbelievably cruel act of “cat stomping”


I must say that I don’t see anything wrong with eating cats, People do eat different type of food in different countries and I for one try out the local food where I go….. and cats are absolutely delicious …………

Respectfully the Unbeliever

[Rysdad]

Hi, Unbeliever. What's new? Say, you look familiar...

Just curious, but where were you when you tasted cat?

[Unbeliever]

Hi, you look familiar yourself…. I got it in a Chinese restaurant; I have spent some serious part of my life travelling.

[Unbeliever]

nope I´ll just start a new threa with that one... :) keep an eye......

[Kalashnikov]

I thought this was going to be about the ATF.
They're known for stomping kittens to death, and gratuitiously shooting harmless dogs.

[incitatus]

Originally posted by Revtim
[b]
Someone needs to stompt that fucker into oblivion. And yes, I do value the kitten's life much more than I value the life of that shitbag. "Innocent kitten" > "Asshole waste of protein human"
[b]

They should chop the guy up into little bits and make kitten chow out of him. At least that protein wouldn't go to waste...

[Nichol_storm]

Could someone post a link to the thread about Guin's kitten? I haven't read it and I'm confused about what happened to her kitty.

Geez. I'm living on my aunt's farm, and just got surprised a few hours ago when one of the farm cats, Susie, brought her kitten into the house. It's just the sweetest thing -- all fluffy yellow fur and big blue trusting eyes and itty-bitty claws too soft to prick you. I couldn't even imagine hurting Pumpkin (the kitten's new name, seeing as how she's yellow *and* it's almost Halloween) much less stomping her to death!. Blurgh!

.:Nichol:.

[saepiroth]

her kitty got incurably sick. it was only two months old, but she had to put it to sleep because it would be in horrible pain if she let it live.


in her grief thread, some religious wackos started giving her shit for "cursing the lord" in her rant. it had to be closed as it was out of control, and that's why it's not on the main page anymore and you didn't see it.

i will try and dig up the links to both threads.

[Snooooopy]

Not even the fact that kittens reduce me to a sneezing, wheezing, miserable pile of flesh would drive me to stomping.

That said, if there WERE a device that could teleport all the world's cats to, say, Mars ...

[k.os]

Originally posted by Snooooopy
Not even the fact that kittens reduce me to a sneezing, wheezing, miserable pile of flesh would drive me to stomping.

That said, if there WERE a device that could teleport all the world's cats to, say, Mars ... (emphasis mine)

What about a device that would render you invincible to the allergenic qualities of cat saliva?

That way, I get to keep Gumby and Gaïa (my two cats, obviously), and you don't turn to a sneezing, wheezing, miserable pile of flesh...

:D

[Snooooopy]

Originally posted by k.os
Originally posted by Snooooopy
Not even the fact that kittens reduce me to a sneezing, wheezing, miserable pile of flesh would drive me to stomping.

That said, if there WERE a device that could teleport all the world's cats to, say, Mars ... (emphasis mine)

What about a device that would render you invincible to the allergenic qualities of cat saliva?

That way, I get to keep Gumby and Gaïa (my two cats, obviously), and you don't turn to a sneezing, wheezing, miserable pile of flesh...

:D

Well, your suggestion obviously has its merits. But I think we can all agree that having a teleportation device would be massively cool. If I had one of those, I suppose I'd be too darn happy to use it on the cats. :)

[k.os]

Originally posted by Snooooopy
Well, your suggestion obviously has its merits. But I think we can all agree that having a teleportation device would be massively cool. If I had one of those, I suppose I'd be too darn happy to use it on the cats. :)Of course! Give me teleportation NOW! :D

There's a looong list of places I would go...

I would go to Mars! :p

[Peta Tzunami]

Originally posted by El_Kabong
Hmmm...another one slips through the pre-employment screening process.

"So, Mr. Paulus, if we hire you to work in this pet shop, would you have any objection to handling cats?"

According to an article in The Mercury (http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=2520304&BRD=1674&PAG=461&dept_id=18041&rfi=6), he was an employee for 2-1/2 years!

Paules was suspended without pay after the incident, according to his employer, Kevin Zimmer, owner of Zimmer's Pets.

"I couldn't fire him until I knew the facts," Zimmer said. "Now that he's been charged, he's been terminated."

Zimmer said Paules worked for him for 2½ years. He was a good employee and Zimmer had no problems with him prior to the Oct. 6 incident, according to Zimmer.

It does cause one to wonder if this is just the first time he was caught (or the first time he didn't do it in front of witnesses).

The article also talks about other complaints against the store for poor conditions of animals. I don't wonder--sounds like a typical "pet store" where the animals are treated more as a commodity than as creatures with their own lives (as opposed to pet supplies stories which may also encourage animal adoptions as lifetime commitments, animals as family, etc.).

Originally posted by Bluesman
What do I DO when I see this happen, IRL? I think I would have had the same reaction to THIS animal that he had to the kitten: I would've probably attempted to stomp him to death. And the only regret I believe I would have felt is that I was too late to save an animal that DID have a right to live.[/b]

While I'm not an advocate of violence, I understand and empathize with your gut reaction to this heinous crime. And, I have no doubt that you could do it.